Re: [fpc-pascal] How to get the current translation of a resource string?

2020-12-02 Thread Mattias Gaertner via fpc-pascal
On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 13:48:35 +0100 (CET)
Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal 
wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Dec 2020, Mattias Gaertner via fpc-pascal wrote:
>[...]
> > What about the simple explanation, that there are two
> > resourcestrings with the same name in RTLConsts and LCLStrConsts and
> > Luca is looking at the wrong one?  
> 
> Also an option. :-)
> The question is then why there are 2 copies of a string ? :-)

That's the stupidity.


> > See Hanlon's razor.  
> 
> What's wrong with Occam's razor ? Too old ?

Occam is about most simple. Hanlon specifies that stupidity is more
simple than malice.


Mattias
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Re: [fpc-pascal] How to get the current translation of a resource string?

2020-12-02 Thread Luca Olivetti via fpc-pascal

El 2/12/20 a les 13:30, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal ha escrit:



On Wed, 2 Dec 2020, Luca Olivetti via fpc-pascal wrote:

But the 'current translation' is simply the value of the 
resourcestring, so

you should not need to look it up ?


How?

I'm trying to detect this specific exception

  raise EInvalidOperation.Create(sCannotFocus);

(where sCannotFocus is defined in LCLStrConsts).

I tried

  if E is EInvalidOperation then
 if E.message=sCannotFocus

but it doesn't work (sCannotFocus holds the original, not the 
translated, string).


Seems like Lazarus is not using the regular resourcestrings then, because
the whole point of using resourcestrings is that their value is the
translated value...



Never mind, I was fooled by the debugger tool-tip, which shows the 
original definition and not the current value of the resourcestring  :-(



Bye
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Re: [fpc-pascal] How to get the current translation of a resource string?

2020-12-02 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal



On Wed, 2 Dec 2020, Mattias Gaertner via fpc-pascal wrote:


On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 13:30:13 +0100 (CET)
Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal 
wrote:


On Wed, 2 Dec 2020, Luca Olivetti via fpc-pascal wrote:

[...]
> but it doesn't work (sCannotFocus holds the original, not the 
> translated, string). 


Seems like Lazarus is not using the regular resourcestrings then,
because the whole point of using resourcestrings is that their value
is the translated value...


Sounds like a conspiracy theory.


Just trying to go with the times ;-)



What about the simple explanation, that there are two
resourcestrings with the same name in RTLConsts and LCLStrConsts and
Luca is looking at the wrong one?


Also an option. :-)
The question is then why there are 2 copies of a string ? :-)



See Hanlon's razor.


What's wrong with Occam's razor ? Too old ?

Michael.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] How to get the current translation of a resource string?

2020-12-02 Thread Mattias Gaertner via fpc-pascal
On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 13:30:13 +0100 (CET)
Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal 
wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Dec 2020, Luca Olivetti via fpc-pascal wrote:
> 
>[...]
> > but it doesn't work (sCannotFocus holds the original, not the 
> > translated, string).  
> 
> Seems like Lazarus is not using the regular resourcestrings then,
> because the whole point of using resourcestrings is that their value
> is the translated value...

Sounds like a conspiracy theory.

What about the simple explanation, that there are two
resourcestrings with the same name in RTLConsts and LCLStrConsts and
Luca is looking at the wrong one?

See Hanlon's razor.

Mattias
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Re: [fpc-pascal] How to get the current translation of a resource string?

2020-12-02 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal



On Wed, 2 Dec 2020, Luca Olivetti via fpc-pascal wrote:


But the 'current translation' is simply the value of the resourcestring, so
you should not need to look it up ?


How?

I'm trying to detect this specific exception

  raise EInvalidOperation.Create(sCannotFocus);

(where sCannotFocus is defined in LCLStrConsts).

I tried

  if E is EInvalidOperation then
 if E.message=sCannotFocus

but it doesn't work (sCannotFocus holds the original, not the 
translated, string).


Seems like Lazarus is not using the regular resourcestrings then, because
the whole point of using resourcestrings is that their value is the
translated value...

Michael.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] How to get the current translation of a resource string?

2020-12-02 Thread Luca Olivetti via fpc-pascal

El 2/12/20 a les 11:49, Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal ha escrit:



On Tue, 1 Dec 2020, Luca Olivetti via fpc-pascal wrote:

Since I want to treat a specific exception that cannot be 
distinguished by the class alone but only by the class and message, I 
need to find the current translation of the resource string used to 
create the exception.


The documentation at

https://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/current/prog/progse40.html

mentions ResourceStringTableCount, ResourceStringCount, 
GetResourceStringCurrentValue but I can't find them anywhere in my 
copy of fpc 3.2.0 (they are in fpc 2.6.4 and 3.0.4).


I already did corrections on the documentation for this.

But the 'current translation' is simply the value of the resourcestring, so
you should not need to look it up ?


How?

I'm trying to detect this specific exception

  raise EInvalidOperation.Create(sCannotFocus);

(where sCannotFocus is defined in LCLStrConsts).

I tried

  if E is EInvalidOperation then
 if E.message=sCannotFocus

but it doesn't work (sCannotFocus holds the original, not the 
translated, string).


Bye
--
Luc<
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Re: [fpc-pascal] How to get the current translation of a resource string?

2020-12-02 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal



On Tue, 1 Dec 2020, Luca Olivetti via fpc-pascal wrote:

Since I want to treat a specific exception that cannot be distinguished 
by the class alone but only by the class and message, I need to find the 
current translation of the resource string used to create the exception.


The documentation at

https://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/current/prog/progse40.html

mentions ResourceStringTableCount, ResourceStringCount, 
GetResourceStringCurrentValue but I can't find them anywhere in my copy 
of fpc 3.2.0 (they are in fpc 2.6.4 and 3.0.4).


I already did corrections on the documentation for this.

But the 'current translation' is simply the value of the resourcestring, so
you should not need to look it up ?

Michael.
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[fpc-pascal] How to get the current translation of a resource string?

2020-12-01 Thread Luca Olivetti via fpc-pascal
Since I want to treat a specific exception that cannot be distinguished 
by the class alone but only by the class and message, I need to find the 
current translation of the resource string used to create the exception.


The documentation at

https://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/current/prog/progse40.html

mentions ResourceStringTableCount, ResourceStringCount, 
GetResourceStringCurrentValue but I can't find them anywhere in my copy 
of fpc 3.2.0 (they are in fpc 2.6.4 and 3.0.4).


Bye
--
Luca

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