Re: [fpc-pascal] Powtils: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3?
Hi Juha, On Thursday 31/10/2013 at 21:43, Juha Manninen wrote: Out of curiosity, how is its performance compared to Indy based web server. The Embedded Web Server is only used for a single user product, which learners can buy on a DVD and install at home. So the load on that web server is actually very low. Our full system is installed in learning centres (Schools and Master Maths/Science centres) with anything from 10-60+ concurrent users. For that we use Apache Web Server. Both products actually use the exact same CGI executables - one product simply talks to an embedded web server application and accesses an Embedded Firebird Database, and the other product talks to Apache and a full scale Firebird Database Server. The CGI client apps are implemented with Powtils because we simply couldn't get fcl-web based CGI apps to work in our environment (where our Adobe Flash content needs to load external resources, and that always failed with fcl-web for some still unknown reason). Our business objects, data access components and data persistence are all handled by the tiOPF framework. We only use the Free Pascal compiler (no Delphi). Desktop GUI apps are based on fpGUI Toolkit. Regards, Graeme ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Powtils: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3?
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013, Juha Manninen wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: Having recently (and currently still) doing extensive work with embedded HTTP servers, I tested many (Powtils, Indy, tiWebServer, FPC, nYume etc). I must agree with Michael, fphttpserver is a good choice. There is a bit of a learning curve [compared to some others], but nothing major. Overall, I'm very happy with the final choice on fphttpserver. Out of curiosity, how is its performance compared to Indy based web server. fphttpserver was not built for speed. I would not dare to make this comparison. My current employer has a highly optimized data system with custom web server and custom DB. No SQL sentences and no SQL DBs obviously. The load it can handle is quite impressive. It manages information for schools: personnel, students, courses, exams, timetables, messaging etc. That is the exact description of my previous job :) Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Powtils: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3?
2013/11/1 Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org On Thu, 31 Oct 2013, Juha Manninen wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: Having recently (and currently still) doing extensive work with embedded HTTP servers, I tested many (Powtils, Indy, tiWebServer, FPC, nYume etc). I must agree with Michael, fphttpserver is a good choice. There is a bit of a learning curve [compared to some others], but nothing major. Overall, I'm very happy with the final choice on fphttpserver. Out of curiosity, how is its performance compared to Indy based web server. fphttpserver was not built for speed. I would not dare to make this comparison. [...] Once I did a test and fphttpserver responded to 2000 requests per second. ;) -- Silvio Clécio My public projects - github.com/silvioprog ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Powtils: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3?
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:53 PM, silvioprog silviop...@gmail.com wrote: Once I did a test and fphttpserver responded to 2000 requests per second. ;) The speed depends on page contents, too, but anyway that sounds very fast. Juha ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Powtils: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3?
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: Having recently (and currently still) doing extensive work with embedded HTTP servers, I tested many (Powtils, Indy, tiWebServer, FPC, nYume etc). I must agree with Michael, fphttpserver is a good choice. There is a bit of a learning curve [compared to some others], but nothing major. Overall, I'm very happy with the final choice on fphttpserver. Out of curiosity, how is its performance compared to Indy based web server. My current employer has a highly optimized data system with custom web server and custom DB. No SQL sentences and no SQL DBs obviously. The load it can handle is quite impressive. It manages information for schools: personnel, students, courses, exams, timetables, messaging etc. I understood Graeme's system is also for schools but handles the actual learning material which makes it different. Yet I believe it also has high performance requirements and must handle heavy load. My employer (StarSoft, Finland) system is compiled with both Delphi and FPC, on Windows and Linux. Porting the code for Unicode so it still works with both Delphi and FPC is a challenge. Uhhh! I will not tell more or I will reveal company secrets. Regards, Juha ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Powtils: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3?
On Tuesday 29/10/2013 at 18:19, John Lee wrote: Is this assessment valid for win or linux or both? J I use both equally, and for the 32-bit and 64-bit platforms. Regards, Graeme ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Powtils: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3?
2013/10/28 Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk On Monday 28/10/2013 at 15:03, silvioprog wrote: So, which one is recommended to be used in production? Having recently (and currently still) doing extensive work with embedded HTTP servers, I tested many (Powtils, Indy, tiWebServer, FPC, nYume etc). I must agree with Michael, fphttpserver is a good choice. There is a bit of a learning curve [compared to some others], but nothing major. Overall, I'm very happy with the final choice on fphttpserver. Regards, Graeme Me too. I'm using fphttpserver in several other projects, and I'm very happy. My new project needs of SSL securit, however, I'm still considering using HTTP with another encryption instead of SSL. -- Silvio Clécio My public projects - github.com/silvioprog ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Powtils: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3?
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, silvioprog wrote: 2013/10/28 Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk On Monday 28/10/2013 at 15:03, silvioprog wrote: So, which one is recommended to be used in production? Having recently (and currently still) doing extensive work with embedded HTTP servers, I tested many (Powtils, Indy, tiWebServer, FPC, nYume etc). I must agree with Michael, fphttpserver is a good choice. There is a bit of a learning curve [compared to some others], but nothing major. Overall, I'm very happy with the final choice on fphttpserver. Regards, Graeme Me too. I'm using fphttpserver in several other projects, and I'm very happy. My new project needs of SSL securit, however, I'm still considering using HTTP with another encryption instead of SSL. https protocol support is on my TODO list. Should hopefully be implemented before christmas :) Michael.___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Powtils: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3?
2013/10/29 Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, silvioprog wrote: 2013/10/28 Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk On Monday 28/10/2013 at 15:03, silvioprog wrote: So, which one is recommended to be used in production? Having recently (and currently still) doing extensive work with embedded HTTP servers, I tested many (Powtils, Indy, tiWebServer, FPC, nYume etc). I must agree with Michael, fphttpserver is a good choice. There is a bit of a learning curve [compared to some others], but nothing major. Overall, I'm very happy with the final choice on fphttpserver. Regards, Graeme Me too. I'm using fphttpserver in several other projects, and I'm very happy. My new project needs of SSL securit, however, I'm still considering using HTTP with another encryption instead of SSL. https protocol support is on my TODO list. Should hopefully be implemented before christmas :) Michael. Yyyeeesss, this is an excellent news Michael! :) I'll use this future feature in Brook via broker, then I'll not need to change the code in my projects. -- Silvio Clécio My public projects - github.com/silvioprog ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Powtils: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3?
Is this assessment valid for win or linux or both? J On 28 October 2013 13:22, Graeme Geldenhuys gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk wrote: On Monday 28/10/2013 at 15:03, silvioprog wrote: So, which one is recommended to be used in production? Having recently (and currently still) doing extensive work with embedded HTTP servers, I tested many (Powtils, Indy, tiWebServer, FPC, nYume etc). I must agree with Michael, fphttpserver is a good choice. There is a bit of a learning curve [compared to some others], but nothing major. Overall, I'm very happy with the final choice on fphttpserver. Regards, Graeme ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Powtils: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3?
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, John Lee wrote: Is this assessment valid for win or linux or both? J Both. To my knowledge, Graeme works on both platforms equally. I myself am biased towards Linux, but I do have knowledge of people using it extensively on Windows. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
[fpc-pascal] Powtils: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3?
Hello, I'm needing to create a own HTTPS server. Googling, I found Powtils(*), with three servers: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3. So, which one is recommended to be used in production? (*) - https://code.google.com/p/powtils Thank you! ps. Issue posted in: https://code.google.com/p/powtils/issues/detail?id=1 -- Silvio Clécio My public projects - github.com/silvioprog ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Powtils: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3?
2013/10/28 Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org On Mon, 28 Oct 2013, silvioprog wrote: Hello, I'm needing to create a own HTTPS server. Googling, I found Powtils(*), with three servers: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3. So, which one is recommended to be used in production? None, IMHO. After I looked at their code, I wrote fphttpserver. Michael. Very nice. I'll test lightwebserver. Thank you Michael! :) -- Silvio Clécio My public projects - github.com/silvioprog ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Powtils: lightwebserver, lightwebserver2 or lightwebserver3?
On Monday 28/10/2013 at 15:03, silvioprog wrote: So, which one is recommended to be used in production? Having recently (and currently still) doing extensive work with embedded HTTP servers, I tested many (Powtils, Indy, tiWebServer, FPC, nYume etc). I must agree with Michael, fphttpserver is a good choice. There is a bit of a learning curve [compared to some others], but nothing major. Overall, I'm very happy with the final choice on fphttpserver. Regards, Graeme ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
