Greyscale
Dov wrote: <> I've been faced with the problem of converting color to greyscale in a document full of pdf imports. The only way I've found so far to deal with it was to take the pdf graphics through Illustrator, strip the color there, and re-pdf them. Is this process recommended or advisable? Madeleine Reardon Dimond Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
Re: Master pages and round tripping
Steve, It takes a plug-in to use different templates for different book components created when you open an XML document. If the only reason you are considering different templates is to use different master pages and if the page size is the same throughout the entire book, why not just define all master pages for all components in one template? --Lynne At 02:33 AM 11/30/2006, Steve Rickaby wrote: I have a question regarding the handling of master pages when FrameMaker book components are round-tripped. If a book contains several document types (Preface, Chapter and so on), the master pages can be applied as appropriate using master page mapping tables. Thus different document types can contain different sets of master pages and corresponding different master page mapping tables. When setting up a structured application, each structured application can only use (as I currently understand it) a single EDD and template. This mechanism therefore does not seem to allow for different master pages and mapping table sets per document type, and the only workarounds would be: . [Good] To ensure that all document types in a book contain the same superset of master pages and the same master (universal) page mapping table. . [Cumbersome] To construct separate struct apps for each document type. Am I correct, or are there mechanisms that can be used to find another way? -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lprice%40txstruct.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Master pages and round tripping
Steve, It takes a plug-in to use different templates for different book components created when you open an XML document. If the only reason you are considering different templates is to use different master pages and if the page size is the same throughout the entire book, why not just define all master pages for all components in one template? --Lynne At 02:33 AM 11/30/2006, Steve Rickaby wrote: >I have a question regarding the handling of master pages when FrameMaker >book components are round-tripped. > >If a book contains several document types (Preface, Chapter and so on), >the master pages can be applied as appropriate using master page mapping >tables. Thus different document types can contain different sets of master >pages and corresponding different master page mapping tables. > >When setting up a structured application, each structured application can >only use (as I currently understand it) a single EDD and template. This >mechanism therefore does not seem to allow for different master pages and >mapping table sets per document type, and the only workarounds would be: > >. [Good] To ensure that all document types in a book contain the same >superset of master pages and the same master (universal) page mapping table. > >. [Cumbersome] To construct separate struct apps for each document type. > >Am I correct, or are there mechanisms that can be used to find another way? > >-- >Steve >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as lprice at txstruct.com. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lprice%40txstruct.com > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lprice at txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284
Character counts
Hello Michael,
> Pgf.Text.Count option - it gives different value than
> if I do File>Utilities>Document Reports>Asian Charater Count
Does your document contain double byte characters?
Do you run FrameMaker with an Asian system locale?
- You need to ensure that your paragraph loop does
only process paragraphs on body pages.
- Note that you need to count characters in text lines
separately.
- The FM command does not count spaces, tabs, en spaces,
soft hyphens etc. - Pgf.Text.Count does.
Set vWhiteSpace = ' '+CharTab+4S+9S+16S+17S+18S+19S+20S;
//-- Note: This "#S" notation works with FS3 and later.
Set vDoc = ActiveDoc;
Set vCharCountAll = 0;
Set vCharCountPlain = 0;
//-- Loop through paragraphs:
Loop ForEach(Pgf) In(vDoc) LoopVar(vPgf)
If (vPgf.Page.ObjectName = 'BodyPage')
Set vPgfText = vPgf.Text;
Set vCharCountAll = vCharCountAll + vPgfText.Count;
Get String FromString(vPgfText) NewVar(vPgfText)
RemoveChars(vWhiteSpace);
Set vCharCountPlain = vCharCountPlain + vPgfText.Count;
EndIf
EndLoop;
//-- Loop through text lines:
Set vGraphic = vDoc.FirstGraphicInDoc;
Loop While(vGraphic)
If (vGraphic.ObjectName = 'TextLine')
If (vGraphic.Page.ObjectName = 'BodyPage')
Set vPgfText = vGraphic.Text;
Set vCharCountAll = vCharCountAll + vPgfText.Count;
Get String FromString(vPgfText) NewVar(vPgfText)
RemoveChars(vWhiteSpace);
Set vCharCountPlain = vCharCountPlain + vPgfText.Count;
EndIf
EndIf
Set vGraphic = vGraphic.NextGraphicInDoc;
EndLoop
Display 'Character Count: '+ vCharCountPlain
+' ('+vCharCountAll+') ';
Kind regards,
Klaus M?ller, itl AG
--- Original Message ---
From: Michael Zaichenko
Date: 30.11.2006 10:05
> Hello Klaus,
> I'm scripting something that involves character count of
> the file. I have noticed that if I use Pgf.Text.Count option -
> it gives different value than if I do File>Utilities>Document
> Reports>Asian Charater Count. Do you know how to retrieve the
> correct value. I was not able to find a FrameScript option for it.
> Thanks in advance.
> Michael
Crossreferences and graphics not being shown in XML
Hello Framers! I do a roundtrip between fm and xml. i have set up my own application. Everything seems to working fine apart from crossreferences and graphics. The cross-refs and graphic donot get shown in XML; when FM is redered as XML. But when the same XML is imported as fm; the crossreferences and graphics reappear in the fm file. This means that their information is getting saved during the Fm ---> XML conversion. But then, why are they not being displayed in XML. Plz advise. Regards Surbhi
Greyscale
Many thanks for your advice Dov. We are using Acro 7 now. Bedded it down almost a year ago now. We always send our printers "press quality" PDFs in full colour and we've never had any problems. However, we're recently changed printers who are requesting grayscale PDFs. When you say "as long as NONE of your content is EPS or PDF containing color", are you talking about embedded files in FrameMaker? If so, no problem. Except that the printer is now complaining about graphics quality. But I searched hi and lo in the Acro Distiller Color options and found no option to convert to grayscale. Does such an option exist? Regards Ben Warburton -Original Message- From: John Pitt [mailto:j...@pitt.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 5:24 PM To: Ben Warburton Subject: Greyscale I'd follow Dov's opinion on PDFs before anyone's - he's Adobe's PostScript/PDF guru). (And now you have a damn good reason to get W to upgrade your Acro to 7-8 (if you buy 7 now, they'll upgrade you to 8 automatically (so long as someone completes the forms). jjj > > > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:22:20 -0800 > From: "Dov Isaacs" > Subject: RE: Grayscale PDFs > To: "Ben Warburton" , > > Message-ID: > <5F4BF9F76511C549A314AC3EDF92EBAB0C6E2387 at namail1.corp.adobe.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" > > Ben, > > The methodology that you are using "works" as long > as NONE of your content is EPS or PDF containing color. > That driver option does not do anything to content that > passes "through" the driver. EPS and PDF (which is > actually converted to the equivalent of EPS for output > PostScript streams) is not touched by the driver in > terms of this "black and white" option. > > A more inclusive "fix" would be to not use the driver > option but to use the color conversion features of > Acrobat 7 Pro or Acrobat 8 Pro. > > - Dov > > > -- _ John Pitt, technical writer 47 Gottenham St Glebe NSW 2037 Ph: 02 9692 8096 Mob: 0438 92 8096 john at pitt.net.au www.pitt.net.au
Master pages and round tripping
I have a question regarding the handling of master pages when FrameMaker book components are round-tripped. If a book contains several document types (Preface, Chapter and so on), the master pages can be applied as appropriate using master page mapping tables. Thus different document types can contain different sets of master pages and corresponding different master page mapping tables. When setting up a structured application, each structured application can only use (as I currently understand it) a single EDD and template. This mechanism therefore does not seem to allow for different master pages and mapping table sets per document type, and the only workarounds would be: . [Good] To ensure that all document types in a book contain the same superset of master pages and the same master (universal) page mapping table. . [Cumbersome] To construct separate struct apps for each document type. Am I correct, or are there mechanisms that can be used to find another way? -- Steve
Character counts
Hello All, I'm scripting something that involves character count of the file. I have noticed that if I use Pgf.Text.Count option - it gives different value than if I do File>Utilities>Document Reports>Asian Charater Count. Do you know how to retrieve the correct value. I was not able to find a FrameScript option for it. Thanks in advance. Michael _ Ta' p? udsalg ?ret rundt p? MSN Shopping: http://shopping.msn.dk - her finder du altid de bedste priser
Re: Character counts
Hello Michael,
> Pgf.Text.Count option - it gives different value than
> if I do File>Utilities>Document Reports>Asian Charater Count
Does your document contain double byte characters?
Do you run FrameMaker with an Asian system locale?
- You need to ensure that your paragraph loop does
only process paragraphs on body pages.
- Note that you need to count characters in text lines
separately.
- The FM command does not count spaces, tabs, en spaces,
soft hyphens etc. - Pgf.Text.Count does.
Set vWhiteSpace = ' '+CharTab+4S+9S+16S+17S+18S+19S+20S;
//-- Note: This "#S" notation works with FS3 and later.
Set vDoc = ActiveDoc;
Set vCharCountAll = 0;
Set vCharCountPlain = 0;
//-- Loop through paragraphs:
Loop ForEach(Pgf) In(vDoc) LoopVar(vPgf)
If (vPgf.Page.ObjectName = 'BodyPage')
Set vPgfText = vPgf.Text;
Set vCharCountAll = vCharCountAll + vPgfText.Count;
Get String FromString(vPgfText) NewVar(vPgfText)
RemoveChars(vWhiteSpace);
Set vCharCountPlain = vCharCountPlain + vPgfText.Count;
EndIf
EndLoop;
//-- Loop through text lines:
Set vGraphic = vDoc.FirstGraphicInDoc;
Loop While(vGraphic)
If (vGraphic.ObjectName = 'TextLine')
If (vGraphic.Page.ObjectName = 'BodyPage')
Set vPgfText = vGraphic.Text;
Set vCharCountAll = vCharCountAll + vPgfText.Count;
Get String FromString(vPgfText) NewVar(vPgfText)
RemoveChars(vWhiteSpace);
Set vCharCountPlain = vCharCountPlain + vPgfText.Count;
EndIf
EndIf
Set vGraphic = vGraphic.NextGraphicInDoc;
EndLoop
Display 'Character Count: '+ vCharCountPlain
+' ('+vCharCountAll+') ';
Kind regards,
Klaus Müller, itl AG
--- Original Message ---
From: Michael Zaichenko
Date: 30.11.2006 10:05
> Hello Klaus,
> I'm scripting something that involves character count of
> the file. I have noticed that if I use Pgf.Text.Count option -
> it gives different value than if I do File>Utilities>Document
> Reports>Asian Charater Count. Do you know how to retrieve the
> correct value. I was not able to find a FrameScript option for it.
> Thanks in advance.
> Michael
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Master pages and round tripping
I have a question regarding the handling of master pages when FrameMaker book components are round-tripped. If a book contains several document types (Preface, Chapter and so on), the master pages can be applied as appropriate using master page mapping tables. Thus different document types can contain different sets of master pages and corresponding different master page mapping tables. When setting up a structured application, each structured application can only use (as I currently understand it) a single EDD and template. This mechanism therefore does not seem to allow for different master pages and mapping table sets per document type, and the only workarounds would be: . [Good] To ensure that all document types in a book contain the same superset of master pages and the same master (universal) page mapping table. . [Cumbersome] To construct separate struct apps for each document type. Am I correct, or are there mechanisms that can be used to find another way? -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Character counts
Hello All, I'm scripting something that involves character count of the file. I have noticed that if I use Pgf.Text.Count option - it gives different value than if I do File>Utilities>Document Reports>Asian Charater Count. Do you know how to retrieve the correct value. I was not able to find a FrameScript option for it. Thanks in advance. Michael _ Ta' på udsalg året rundt på MSN Shopping: http://shopping.msn.dk - her finder du altid de bedste priser ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
