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problem install framemaker 8 trial version

[d.mossfri...@comcast.net]

I ran into the same problem (on two different computers) with the GoLive 9 
trial. I have also noted the same problem recently with a couple other Adobe 
applications. I suspect (yet cannot prove) the problem happens with Adobe's new 
serial number dialog box where you select to add a serial number or trial.

Best,

 Denise L. Moss-Fritch

-- Original message -- 
From: menchin_ela...@emc.com 

> I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of 
> Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website. It downloads fine but during the 
> install process I am asked for a serial number. I don't have one since 
> this is a trial version. The Adobe support person I contacted first 
> suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened), 
> then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing 
> Frame 7 from my system. This isn't an option; we do our documentation 
> work in Frame 7 here. I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional 
> text features to see if we want to upgrade. Does this ring true - do I 
> really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8? 
> 
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Using FrameScript to change footer text

[Fred Ridder]

One aspect of well-designed templates is that the headers and
footers should be identical (or I should say identically constructed,
meaning built from the same system variables even if those
variables will have different values in different chapters) across
all or most of the files in a book. If that is the case, you only
need to update the master pages in *one* file per book, and
can then import that formatting (identified as Page Layouts in
the Import Formats dialog) into all the other similar files in the
book in a single operation.  The ability to import various types
of formatting from one file into a whole book's worth of files
has always been one of FrameMaker's biggest strengths..

If the headers and footers are constructed differently from
file to file, I think you're going to be stuck doing them manually
because a script will only work properly if it is dealing with
similar constructions.


>From: "Kelly McDaniel" 
>To: 
>Subject: Using FrameScript to change footer text
>Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 16:02:36 -0500
>
>I'm running FrameMaker 7.0 and FrameScript. I need to change the footer
>text from:  "BrandX Reference Guide - Volume VII - Functions" to "BrandX
>Reference Guide - Functions".
>
>Most books contain many, many files. Editing the Master Pages by hand is
>a bear. Is there a scriptable method?...thanks.
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Re: Fixed my Problem

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:23:31 -0700, "Flato, Gillian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>I finally fixed my problem. I can build help files again! (whew! I was
>starting to sweat bullets)
> 
>Here is what I did:
> 
>1. Reinstalled ePub (don't know if that helped but what the hell)
> 
>2. Fixed the corrupt graphics (ePub cannot manage images grouped
>together with Frame callouts. I created the graphics with callouts in
>Illustrator and saved as a *.png file. Additionally, ePub can't handle
>multiple images in an anchored Frame. I took the three images in an
>anchored Frame and combined them into one graphic in Photoshop.)

That's an unfortunate limitation; adding callouts or other
Frame vector elements to graphics is very common.  So is using
two or more images as a montage in a single frame.  Mif2Go 
handles both of those situations just fine, with *no* manual
intervention.  You shouldn't have to repeat the work you did
in Frame in Photoshop and Illustrator!  Yikes!

If you run into this deficiency again, you can use the free 
demo version of Mif2Go to generate the composite graphics,
even if you then use them in ePP.  ;-)  Just run the demo to
produce plain HTML; don't bother with any .ini settings, the
defaults will work out of the box.  Look at the generated
HTML pages to find the graphic, then get its name from the
browser (right-click on image, Properties).  Use that graphic
in ePP.  Takes maybe five minutes start to finish.

The demo is available at:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

>3. I changed the graphic settings in the Style Designer as follows:
> 
>By Reference Graphics: Enabled (with Frame 7 I had this as Disabled)
>By Reference Graphics use document dimensions: Disabled  

Of course, you could save even more time and money by 
using Mif2Go for the whole job.  It costs only about 
1/5 of what ePP is these days... and does much more.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
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Fixed my Problem

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:23:31 -0700, "Flato, Gillian"  
wrote:

>I finally fixed my problem. I can build help files again! (whew! I was
>starting to sweat bullets)
> 
>Here is what I did:
> 
>1. Reinstalled ePub (don't know if that helped but what the hell)
> 
>2. Fixed the corrupt graphics (ePub cannot manage images grouped
>together with Frame callouts. I created the graphics with callouts in
>Illustrator and saved as a *.png file. Additionally, ePub can't handle
>multiple images in an anchored Frame. I took the three images in an
>anchored Frame and combined them into one graphic in Photoshop.)

That's an unfortunate limitation; adding callouts or other
Frame vector elements to graphics is very common.  So is using
two or more images as a montage in a single frame.  Mif2Go 
handles both of those situations just fine, with *no* manual
intervention.  You shouldn't have to repeat the work you did
in Frame in Photoshop and Illustrator!  Yikes!

If you run into this deficiency again, you can use the free 
demo version of Mif2Go to generate the composite graphics,
even if you then use them in ePP.  ;-)  Just run the demo to
produce plain HTML; don't bother with any .ini settings, the
defaults will work out of the box.  Look at the generated
HTML pages to find the graphic, then get its name from the
browser (right-click on image, Properties).  Use that graphic
in ePP.  Takes maybe five minutes start to finish.

The demo is available at:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

>3. I changed the graphic settings in the Style Designer as follows:
> 
>By Reference Graphics: Enabled (with Frame 7 I had this as Disabled)
>By Reference Graphics use document dimensions: Disabled  

Of course, you could save even more time and money by 
using Mif2Go for the whole job.  It costs only about 
1/5 of what ePP is these days... and does much more.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Using FrameScript to change footer text

[Kelly McDaniel]

I'm running FrameMaker 7.0 and FrameScript. I need to change the footer
text from:  "BrandX Reference Guide - Volume VII - Functions" to "BrandX
Reference Guide - Functions".

Most books contain many, many files. Editing the Master Pages by hand is
a bear. Is there a scriptable method?...thanks.

RE: Using FrameScript to change footer text

[Fred Ridder]

One aspect of well-designed templates is that the headers and
footers should be identical (or I should say identically constructed,
meaning built from the same system variables even if those
variables will have different values in different chapters) across
all or most of the files in a book. If that is the case, you only
need to update the master pages in *one* file per book, and
can then import that formatting (identified as Page Layouts in
the Import Formats dialog) into all the other similar files in the
book in a single operation.  The ability to import various types
of formatting from one file into a whole book's worth of files
has always been one of FrameMaker's biggest strengths..

If the headers and footers are constructed differently from
file to file, I think you're going to be stuck doing them manually
because a script will only work properly if it is dealing with
similar constructions.



From: "Kelly McDaniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: Using FrameScript to change footer text
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 16:02:36 -0500

I'm running FrameMaker 7.0 and FrameScript. I need to change the footer
text from:  "BrandX Reference Guide - Volume VII - Functions" to "BrandX
Reference Guide - Functions".

Most books contain many, many files. Editing the Master Pages by hand is
a bear. Is there a scriptable method?...thanks.
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Using FrameScript to change footer text

[Kelly McDaniel]

I'm running FrameMaker 7.0 and FrameScript. I need to change the footer
text from:  "BrandX Reference Guide - Volume VII - Functions" to "BrandX
Reference Guide - Functions".

Most books contain many, many files. Editing the Master Pages by hand is
a bear. Is there a scriptable method?...thanks.
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problem install framemaker 8 trial version

[Peter Gold]

I can't speak definitively to the problem with running in trial mode.

Regarding what's compatible - you can keep multiple _different_
releases of FM installed without conflicts. For example, FM 4, 5,
5.56, 6.x, and 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, and 8.0, are sufficiently different to
work independently. Each must be installed in its own directory, not
over existing installations, not even one with a very similar release
number (like 7.0 and 7.1.) You are bound by the license agreements'
requirements regarding discontinuing the use of releases you've
upgraded. Over the years, some of these requirements have changed.

In this light, the support tech may have given you bogus information.
To my knowledge, it's not been necessary to uninstall a existing
release to install a new and different one. However, if the technician
meant "try uninstalling your current release before installing the
trial, then install your old release again," that's perhaps a possible
solution. Perhaps someone on this list has experience with this
strategy and can comment.

I'd suggest contacting tech support again, and insist on talking with
a supervisor, to determine exactly how to proceed. Insist on official
Adobe-verified advice for a solution, not "it should work," or "I
think so." If the supervisor can't answer for certain, insist on
speaking with the highest-level manager.

You may want to remind your contacts that it's in Adobe's best
interest to make the trial experience as smooth as possible.

I'm not sure what the possible consequences might be of uninstalling
the earlier 7.x release before installing the 8.0 trial, and
reinstalling the 7.x. Uninstalling leaves some user files in the
installation tree which shouldn't be problematic when reinstalling 7.x
to the same location.

However, installing 8.0 may prompt you to choose whether to install
Acrobat, and warn that it will uninstall existing Acrobat. If and when
you uninstall the trial, you may need to straighten out the Acrobat
installation. Be sure to ask the supervisor about effects on Acrobat
if you try uninstalling 7 before installing the 8 trial.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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On 9/7/07, menchin_elaine at emc.com  wrote:
> I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of
> Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website.  It downloads fine but during the
> install process I am asked for a serial number.  I don't have one since
> this is a trial version.  The Adobe support person I contacted first
> suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened),
> then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing
> Frame 7 from my system.  This isn't an option; we do our documentation
> work in Frame 7 here.  I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional
> text features to see if we want to upgrade.  Does this ring true - do I
> really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8?
>

Fixed my Problem

[Flato, Gillian]

I finally fixed my problem. I can build help files again! (whew! I was
starting to sweat bullets)

Here is what I did:

1. Reinstalled ePub (don't know if that helped but what the hell)

2. Fixed the corrupt graphics (ePub cannot manage images grouped
together with Frame callouts. I created the graphics with callouts in
Illustrator and saved as a *.png file. Additionally, ePub can't handle
multiple images in an anchored Frame. I took the three images in an
anchored Frame and combined them into one graphic in Photoshop.)

3. I changed the graphic settings in the Style Designer as follows:

By Reference Graphics: Enabled (with Frame 7 I had this as Disabled)
By Reference Graphics use document dimensions: Disabled  




Thank you,



 

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr. 

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.545.6316

7  408.232.5911

* gflato at nanometrics  .com
 

Fixed my Problem

[Flato, Gillian]

I finally fixed my problem. I can build help files again! (whew! I was
starting to sweat bullets)
 
Here is what I did:
 
1. Reinstalled ePub (don't know if that helped but what the hell)
 
2. Fixed the corrupt graphics (ePub cannot manage images grouped
together with Frame callouts. I created the graphics with callouts in
Illustrator and saved as a *.png file. Additionally, ePub can't handle
multiple images in an anchored Frame. I took the three images in an
anchored Frame and combined them into one graphic in Photoshop.)
 
3. I changed the graphic settings in the Style Designer as follows:
 
By Reference Graphics: Enabled (with Frame 7 I had this as Disabled)
By Reference Graphics use document dimensions: Disabled  
 
 
 

Thank you,

 

 

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr. 

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.545.6316

7  408.232.5911

* [EMAIL PROTECTED]  .com
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problem install framemaker 8 trial version

[menchin_ela...@emc.com]

I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of
Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website.  It downloads fine but during the
install process I am asked for a serial number.  I don't have one since
this is a trial version.  The Adobe support person I contacted first
suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened),
then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing
Frame 7 from my system.  This isn't an option; we do our documentation
work in Frame 7 here.  I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional
text features to see if we want to upgrade.  Does this ring true - do I
really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8?

Re: problem install framemaker 8 trial version

[Peter Gold]

I can't speak definitively to the problem with running in trial mode.

Regarding what's compatible - you can keep multiple _different_
releases of FM installed without conflicts. For example, FM 4, 5,
5.56, 6.x, and 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, and 8.0, are sufficiently different to
work independently. Each must be installed in its own directory, not
over existing installations, not even one with a very similar release
number (like 7.0 and 7.1.) You are bound by the license agreements'
requirements regarding discontinuing the use of releases you've
upgraded. Over the years, some of these requirements have changed.

In this light, the support tech may have given you bogus information.
To my knowledge, it's not been necessary to uninstall a existing
release to install a new and different one. However, if the technician
meant "try uninstalling your current release before installing the
trial, then install your old release again," that's perhaps a possible
solution. Perhaps someone on this list has experience with this
strategy and can comment.

I'd suggest contacting tech support again, and insist on talking with
a supervisor, to determine exactly how to proceed. Insist on official
Adobe-verified advice for a solution, not "it should work," or "I
think so." If the supervisor can't answer for certain, insist on
speaking with the highest-level manager.

You may want to remind your contacts that it's in Adobe's best
interest to make the trial experience as smooth as possible.

I'm not sure what the possible consequences might be of uninstalling
the earlier 7.x release before installing the 8.0 trial, and
reinstalling the 7.x. Uninstalling leaves some user files in the
installation tree which shouldn't be problematic when reinstalling 7.x
to the same location.

However, installing 8.0 may prompt you to choose whether to install
Acrobat, and warn that it will uninstall existing Acrobat. If and when
you uninstall the trial, you may need to straighten out the Acrobat
installation. Be sure to ask the supervisor about effects on Acrobat
if you try uninstalling 7 before installing the 8 trial.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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On 9/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of
> Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website.  It downloads fine but during the
> install process I am asked for a serial number.  I don't have one since
> this is a trial version.  The Adobe support person I contacted first
> suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened),
> then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing
> Frame 7 from my system.  This isn't an option; we do our documentation
> work in Frame 7 here.  I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional
> text features to see if we want to upgrade.  Does this ring true - do I
> really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8?
>
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Sticky Cursor - horiz. and vert.

[Lester C. Smalley]

Sounds like you have the Graphic Snap feature enabled.  Look on the
graphic menu.

On Friday, September 07, 2007 12:09 PM, Richard Doll wrote:

| Beginning yesterday in the afternoon when an object was selected 
| for movement, its trajectory to the intended position was 
| stuttered/bounced in about 6pt increments.
| 
| The objects involves are: Frame created "rules and shapes", 
| Table cell boundaries, and Graphic (.tif or .eps) boundaries.
| 
| I know not what I have done to cause this affliction.
| 
| I have searched for all (sys & app) *.ini files and find 
| "fmtoolbr.ini - 9/6/07 @ 5:13" to be the only .ini file to
| be "Modified" since 2/5/07.
| 
| So, . . . I opened the fmtoolbr.ini in Frame as text, But, I 
| know "nada" about what I see there or even if I'm looking in
| the correct place.
| 
| As my customers fail to accept "approximately correct" this 
| seems to be a serious problem.
| 
| Many thanks for sharing your knowledge of a solution.
| 
| best to all,
| 
| dick doll
| 317.539.4857
| sgmlindy at tds.net 

- Lester 
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Information Consultants, Inc.  Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712
Yorklyn, DE  19736   Web: www.infocon.com   
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Sticky Cursor - horiz. and vert.

[Stuart Rogers]

Richard Doll wrote:
> MSWin XP
> Frame 7.22.158
> mem - 1g
> 
> Beginning yesterday in the afternoon when an object was selected for 
> movement, its trajectory to the intended position was stuttered/bounced 
> in about 6pt increments.
> 

It sounds like you have inadvertently enabled Snap (on the Graphics 
menu), which causes objects to align with the Grid (which you have 
likely not made visible from the View > Options menu).

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home, and when he grows 
up, he'll never be able to merge his car onto the freeway."

- anon.

RE: Keyboard shortcuts stop working

[Diane Gaskill]

Hi Rick,

I have had the same thing happen, but also in other apps.  The keyboard gets 
remapped to another language, usually Spanish.  I turned off the language 
settings in the control panel and have not had it happen since.

The keyboard shortcut to switch languages was set to Left Alt Shift and I 
apparently was hitting those keys without realizing it.  Next time it happens, 
try that key combination and see if it switches back.  If not, click Settings 
>Control Panel > Regional and Language Settings > Details and turn off all the 
languages except English.

Regards,

Diane

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:41 AM
To: Yves Barbion; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcuts stop working


I have seen something similar recently with FrameMaker 7.2p158. My keyboard 
will suddenly become remapped. I have to quit and restart FrameMaker and all 
is well. I am still not sure what is triggering it.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Yves Barbion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:38 AM
Subject: Keyboard shortcuts stop working


> Hi all,
>
> a fellow Framer is using FrameMaker 7.2b144. Sometimes (and we don't know
> how it's triggered) the keyboard shortcuts (CTRL+X, CTRL+Z and others) 
> stop
> working. When he quits and restarts FrameMaker, everything is fine again.
>
> Is this a known bug? Has anyone had the same problem before? In which
> version?
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Yves Barbion
> Documentation Architect
> Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
> 
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Keyboard shortcuts stop working

[Diane Gaskill]

Hi Rick,

I have had the same thing happen, but also in other apps.  The keyboard gets 
remapped to another language, usually Spanish.  I turned off the language 
settings in the control panel and have not had it happen since.

The keyboard shortcut to switch languages was set to Left Alt Shift and I 
apparently was hitting those keys without realizing it.  Next time it happens, 
try that key combination and see if it switches back.  If not, click Settings 
>Control Panel > Regional and Language Settings > Details and turn off all the 
languages except English.

Regards,

Diane

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From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On
Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:41 AM
To: Yves Barbion; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcuts stop working


I have seen something similar recently with FrameMaker 7.2p158. My keyboard 
will suddenly become remapped. I have to quit and restart FrameMaker and all 
is well. I am still not sure what is triggering it.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Yves Barbion" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:38 AM
Subject: Keyboard shortcuts stop working


> Hi all,
>
> a fellow Framer is using FrameMaker 7.2b144. Sometimes (and we don't know
> how it's triggered) the keyboard shortcuts (CTRL+X, CTRL+Z and others) 
> stop
> working. When he quits and restarts FrameMaker, everything is fine again.
>
> Is this a known bug? Has anyone had the same problem before? In which
> version?
>
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Re: problem install framemaker 8 trial version

[Scott Prentice]

You definitely don't need to uninstall FM7 to install the FM8 trial.

In the dialog that asks for the serial number *should* be an option to 
choose the "30 Day Trial" which doesn't need a serial number. It's right 
below the serial number fields .. run it again and see if you missed it.


...scott



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I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of
Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website.  It downloads fine but during the
install process I am asked for a serial number.  I don't have one since
this is a trial version.  The Adobe support person I contacted first
suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened),
then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing
Frame 7 from my system.  This isn't an option; we do our documentation
work in Frame 7 here.  I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional
text features to see if we want to upgrade.  Does this ring true - do I
really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8?



  

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problem install framemaker 8 trial version

[Scott Prentice]

You definitely don't need to uninstall FM7 to install the FM8 trial.

In the dialog that asks for the serial number *should* be an option to 
choose the "30 Day Trial" which doesn't need a serial number. It's right 
below the serial number fields .. run it again and see if you missed it.

...scott



menchin_elaine at emc.com wrote:
> I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of
> Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website.  It downloads fine but during the
> install process I am asked for a serial number.  I don't have one since
> this is a trial version.  The Adobe support person I contacted first
> suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened),
> then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing
> Frame 7 from my system.  This isn't an option; we do our documentation
> work in Frame 7 here.  I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional
> text features to see if we want to upgrade.  Does this ring true - do I
> really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8?
>
>
>
>   

Sticky Cursor - horiz. and vert.

[Richard Doll]

MSWin XP
Frame 7.22.158
mem - 1g

Beginning yesterday in the afternoon when an object was selected for 
movement, its trajectory to the intended position was stuttered/bounced in 
about 6pt increments.

The objects involves are: Frame created "rules and shapes", Table cell 
boundaries, and Graphic (.tif or .eps) boundaries.

I know not what I have done to cause this affliction.

I have searched for all (sys & app) *.ini files and find "fmtoolbr.ini - 
9/6/07 @ 5:13" to be the only .ini file to be "Modified" since 2/5/07.

So, . . . I opened the fmtoolbr.ini in Frame as text, But, I know "nada" 
about what I see there or even if I'm looking in the correct place.

As my customers fail to accept "approximately correct" this seems to be a 
serious problem.

Many thanks for sharing your knowledge of a solution.

best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 

Re: problem install framemaker 8 trial version

[d . mossfritch]

I ran into the same problem (on two different computers) with the GoLive 9 
trial. I have also noted the same problem recently with a couple other Adobe 
applications. I suspect (yet cannot prove) the problem happens with Adobe's new 
serial number dialog box where you select to add a serial number or trial.

Best,

 Denise L. Moss-Fritch

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> Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website. It downloads fine but during the 
> install process I am asked for a serial number. I don't have one since 
> this is a trial version. The Adobe support person I contacted first 
> suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened), 
> then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing 
> Frame 7 from my system. This isn't an option; we do our documentation 
> work in Frame 7 here. I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional 
> text features to see if we want to upgrade. Does this ring true - do I 
> really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8? 
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problem install framemaker 8 trial version

[menchin_elaine]

I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of
Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website.  It downloads fine but during the
install process I am asked for a serial number.  I don't have one since
this is a trial version.  The Adobe support person I contacted first
suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened),
then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing
Frame 7 from my system.  This isn't an option; we do our documentation
work in Frame 7 here.  I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional
text features to see if we want to upgrade.  Does this ring true - do I
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Unresolved xrefs when table is sorted

[Shlomo Perets]

Yves,

You wrote:

>FrameMaker (6, 7.x, 8.0) has the following bug: If you've got a
>cross-reference to a paragraph in a table, and you sort the table, the
>cross-reference markers in the table are removed, so you get unresolved
>cross-references.
>
>Any workarounds, patches or solutions here?

Unfortunately, no patches or solutions (as far as I know).

A limited workaround is to change the marker type of all cross-reference 
markers (in tables or throughout), leaving the marker text unchanged (for 
example, change the marker type to a custom type).

After the table is sorted, change the marker type back to Cross-reference.

This can be automated with FrameScript, or by processing MIF files.


Shlomo Perets

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FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
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Sticky Cursor - horiz. and vert.

[Combs, Richard]

Richard Doll wrote:

> Beginning yesterday in the afternoon when an object was 
> selected for movement, its trajectory to the intended 
> position was stuttered/bounced in about 6pt increments.
> 
> The objects involves are: Frame created "rules and shapes", 
> Table cell boundaries, and Graphic (.tif or .eps) boundaries.
> 
> I know not what I have done to cause this affliction.
> 
> I have searched for all (sys & app) *.ini files and find 
> "fmtoolbr.ini -
> 9/6/07 @ 5:13" to be the only .ini file to be "Modified" since 2/5/07.
> 
> So, . . . I opened the fmtoolbr.ini in Frame as text, But, I 
> know "nada" 
> about what I see there or even if I'm looking in the correct place.

You're looking in the wrong place -- "fmtoolbr" means "FM tool bar." 

It sounds like you're used to working with snap off, and you've
inadvertently turned it on. The command is Graphics > Snap, and a check
mark appears next to it when it's enabled. Snap causes graphics objects
(including frames) to snap to the grid. 

Personally, I consider snap essential if "approximately correct" won't
do, because positioning things by "eyeballing" them is not as precise as
aligning them to the grid. Of course, you have to define your grid
spacing to something that works for you. Do that with View > Options. 

HTH!
Richard


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Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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RE: Sticky Cursor - horiz. and vert.

[Lester C. Smalley]

Sounds like you have the Graphic Snap feature enabled.  Look on the
graphic menu.

On Friday, September 07, 2007 12:09 PM, Richard Doll wrote:
 
| Beginning yesterday in the afternoon when an object was selected 
| for movement, its trajectory to the intended position was 
| stuttered/bounced in about 6pt increments.
| 
| The objects involves are: Frame created "rules and shapes", 
| Table cell boundaries, and Graphic (.tif or .eps) boundaries.
| 
| I know not what I have done to cause this affliction.
| 
| I have searched for all (sys & app) *.ini files and find 
| "fmtoolbr.ini - 9/6/07 @ 5:13" to be the only .ini file to
| be "Modified" since 2/5/07.
| 
| So, . . . I opened the fmtoolbr.ini in Frame as text, But, I 
| know "nada" about what I see there or even if I'm looking in
| the correct place.
| 
| As my customers fail to accept "approximately correct" this 
| seems to be a serious problem.
| 
| Many thanks for sharing your knowledge of a solution.
| 
| best to all,
| 
| dick doll
| 317.539.4857
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

- Lester 
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RE: Sticky Cursor - horiz. and vert.

[Combs, Richard]

Richard Doll wrote:
 
> Beginning yesterday in the afternoon when an object was 
> selected for movement, its trajectory to the intended 
> position was stuttered/bounced in about 6pt increments.
> 
> The objects involves are: Frame created "rules and shapes", 
> Table cell boundaries, and Graphic (.tif or .eps) boundaries.
> 
> I know not what I have done to cause this affliction.
> 
> I have searched for all (sys & app) *.ini files and find 
> "fmtoolbr.ini -
> 9/6/07 @ 5:13" to be the only .ini file to be "Modified" since 2/5/07.
> 
> So, . . . I opened the fmtoolbr.ini in Frame as text, But, I 
> know "nada" 
> about what I see there or even if I'm looking in the correct place.

You're looking in the wrong place -- "fmtoolbr" means "FM tool bar." 

It sounds like you're used to working with snap off, and you've
inadvertently turned it on. The command is Graphics > Snap, and a check
mark appears next to it when it's enabled. Snap causes graphics objects
(including frames) to snap to the grid. 

Personally, I consider snap essential if "approximately correct" won't
do, because positioning things by "eyeballing" them is not as precise as
aligning them to the grid. Of course, you have to define your grid
spacing to something that works for you. Do that with View > Options. 

HTH!
Richard


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Re: Sticky Cursor - horiz. and vert.

[Stuart Rogers]

Richard Doll wrote:

MSWin XP
Frame 7.22.158
mem - 1g

Beginning yesterday in the afternoon when an object was selected for 
movement, its trajectory to the intended position was stuttered/bounced 
in about 6pt increments.




It sounds like you have inadvertently enabled Snap (on the Graphics 
menu), which causes objects to align with the Grid (which you have 
likely not made visible from the View > Options menu).


HTH,

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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Sticky Cursor - horiz. and vert.

[Richard Doll]

MSWin XP
Frame 7.22.158
mem - 1g

Beginning yesterday in the afternoon when an object was selected for 
movement, its trajectory to the intended position was stuttered/bounced in 
about 6pt increments.


The objects involves are: Frame created "rules and shapes", Table cell 
boundaries, and Graphic (.tif or .eps) boundaries.


I know not what I have done to cause this affliction.

I have searched for all (sys & app) *.ini files and find "fmtoolbr.ini - 
9/6/07 @ 5:13" to be the only .ini file to be "Modified" since 2/5/07.


So, . . . I opened the fmtoolbr.ini in Frame as text, But, I know "nada" 
about what I see there or even if I'm looking in the correct place.


As my customers fail to accept "approximately correct" this seems to be a 
serious problem.


Many thanks for sharing your knowledge of a solution.

best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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Drag and drop by reference

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Framers,

is there a way to take a graphic in Windows Explorer, drop it onto a page in
FrameMaker and get this graphic imported by reference (not copied into
document, as it is now)?



Kind regards

-- 
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Unresolved xrefs when table is sorted

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Framers,

FrameMaker (6, 7.x, 8.0) has the following bug: If you've got a
cross-reference to a paragraph in a table, and you sort the table, the
cross-reference markers in the table are removed, so you get unresolved
cross-references.

Any workarounds, patches or solutions here?



-- 
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Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor

Re: Unresolved xrefs when table is sorted

[Shlomo Perets]

Yves,

You wrote:


FrameMaker (6, 7.x, 8.0) has the following bug: If you've got a
cross-reference to a paragraph in a table, and you sort the table, the
cross-reference markers in the table are removed, so you get unresolved
cross-references.

Any workarounds, patches or solutions here?


Unfortunately, no patches or solutions (as far as I know).

A limited workaround is to change the marker type of all cross-reference 
markers (in tables or throughout), leaving the marker text unchanged (for 
example, change the marker type to a custom type).


After the table is sorted, change the marker type back to Cross-reference.

This can be automated with FrameScript, or by processing MIF files.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
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