FM 8.0 Image color glitch

[Valerie Lipow]

I have a weird problem with images (.jpg) imported by reference or copied
into FM: the image colors are very strange. For example, a white (blank)
background displays as either magenta or black (or green). Flesh-colored
hues display as royal blue. Black displays as white. Green displays as
orange. I could go on, but you get the idea.

In addition, when the document is printed to the Acrobat Distiller, the
result PDF document shows the weird colors, not the original colors as
verified in PaintShop Pro AND in Photoshop.

I have looked at the Color Views dialog, but don't know what to change, if
anything. Selecting Black and White views does not help, nor does print
color as grayscale. In the File Import dialog, I am using the default As
Color.

I have never seen this kind of problem before. Any advice?

Thanks in advance,

-- 
Valerie Lipow
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RE: Learning curve for FrameMaker

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Of course, they should. But (tying this to another thread) if
FrameUsers.com ever came back, perhaps we could start a
list-members-only wiki. I mean, who better than us to start such a
thing?

Mike McCallister

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Stephenson
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:30 PM
To: Mike Wickham; Lester C. Smalley; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steve
Rickaby
Subject: Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker

Maybe the should outsource the manual to someone on this list. ;-)

 
Rene L. Stephenson




- Original Message 
From: Mike Wickham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lester C. Smalley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:00:10 PM
Subject: Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker

 Lester omits to mention what will be known to many here  - that the 
 Frame
 5 manual was the last to be
 produced by the tech authors at Frame Corp. I have a copy, and yes, it

 is a lot better than the current offering (although I've not seen a 
 FrameMaker 8 manual.)

The FrameMaker 8 manual is worse, because there isn't on-- at least, no
hard copy is included or sold separately. Adobe does include a file on
the CD that you can print and bind yourself, but sheesh. It's over 1000
pages and awkward to print and bind in an office. I'm thinking about
sending it off to a POD printer to get a printed/bound copy (split into
two volumes for convenience).

Mike Wickham



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RE: Deeply weird font kerning issue

[Daniel Frankham]

We've experienced something similar (using Structured FrameMaker 7.0p578
for Windows, and Acrobat 6) -- but only in text, not diagrams. We use
FrameMaker 7.2 and Acrobat 7 now, and we haven't experienced the problem
with those -- but then we haven't created any really large PDFs with it
yet.

The problem as we experienced it was like this: a PDF generated from a
large FrameMaker book would *sometimes* contain garbled text. Some
letters would be run together, so for example all the letters in a word
would be on top of each other; other text in the same line would be very
spread out. This effect would usually be seen in lines containing
in-line headings, punctuation marks (especially smart quotes), or
non-keyboard characters (the degree symbol and Greek letters were common
offendors). The affected PDFs would print exactly as they appeared on
screen. If you closed the PDF and re-opened it, it would look fine. But
if you left it open for a while, the garbling would often return sooner
or later. The effect would often appear in the most badly affected book
while the PDF was being printed, so checking the PDF before you started
printing wasn't enough to avoid junk printouts.

This affected all our large books to an extent (by large I mean between
600 and 2000 pages), but for some reason the 600 page book was the
worst. This book was originally created by another company, so we don't
know its full history. It was used as a template for our other books, so
it's possible they inherited their problems from it.

-- 
Daniel Frankham 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Steve Rickaby
 Sent: Wednesday, 30 April 2008 1:26 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Deeply weird font kerning issue
 
 FrameMaker 7 for Mac, Illustrator CS2, OS X 10.4.11.
 
 I appreciate that this is not specifically a FrameMaker 
 issue, although FrameMaker is involved. It relates to a truly 
 strange last-minute 'gotcha' on a production run for a book.
 
 The book contained diagrams that were created in Illustrator, 
 saved as EPS files, imported into FrameMaker and a .ps and 
 press-quality PDF created from that via Distiller. The 
 diagrams used Frutiger Roman and Monospace 821 for text.
 
 On checking the pre-press proofs, the production editor 
 spotted some text 'corruption', in that some legends in one 
 diagram in a test print from the final PDF had very uneven 
 kerning, even to the point of overlaying characters. The 
 'corrupted' legends were words bracketed on either side by 
 guillemets, the double diagonal brackets that I believe the 
 French use as quote marks (they mean something special in UML 
 notation, which was why they were in the diagram).
 
 I went back to the original diagrams, which looked fine. Ok, 
 I thought, invisible 'corruption': I can fix this by 
 replacing the problem text string. So I did, then reimported, 
 re-cut the PDF and test printed it. And the 'corruption' had 
 moved to the next instance below of a word enclosed by guillements. 
 
 Right, I thought, I'll replace that and all will be well. You 
 can probably guess what happened next... the 'corruption' moved again.
 
 There were four strings set in Frutiger and enclosed in 
 guillemets in the diagram. When I got to the last one and 
 replaced that, I though all would be well, but what actually 
 happened was that the 'corruption' moved back to the first 
 text instance.
 
 At this point I started to feel a little like Mickey Mouse in 
 the 'Sorcerer's Apprentice' sequence in Disney's 'Fantasia'.
 
 To cut a long story short, I figured that the problem, 
 whatever it was, was related in some to the number of 
 guillemet pairs in the diagram. My fix was therefore to make 
 one of the rectangular objects in the diagram solid white 
 fill, duplicate the last guillemet-braced legend on the 
 screen, and *hide it* behind the solid white block.
 
 It worked. But why?
 
 --
 Steve
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RE: FM 8.0 Image color glitch

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Valerie,
Are any of the problem images rotated in your Frame document? In other
words, they display in landscape mode in Photoshop, and you turn them 90
degrees to portrait mode in Frame.
In my experience that produces the effect you describe.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Valerie Lipow
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:30 PM
To: Framers
Subject: FM 8.0 Image color glitch

I have a weird problem with images (.jpg) imported by reference or
copied into FM: the image colors are very strange. For example, a white
(blank) background displays as either magenta or black (or green).
Flesh-colored hues display as royal blue. Black displays as white. Green
displays as orange. I could go on, but you get the idea.

In addition, when the document is printed to the Acrobat Distiller, the
result PDF document shows the weird colors, not the original colors as
verified in PaintShop Pro AND in Photoshop.

I have looked at the Color Views dialog, but don't know what to change,
if anything. Selecting Black and White views does not help, nor does
print color as grayscale. In the File Import dialog, I am using the
default As Color.

I have never seen this kind of problem before. Any advice?

Thanks in advance,

--
Valerie Lipow
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RE: site down

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Question: with the site down, how does a new user join Frameusers or get
on this list? (I have a friend who's an FDK guru who really needs to
join this group.) I know that there is/was a FAQ on the www site, but
naturally I can't get to it.

FYI -- I know the site was down in Oct / Nov / Dec ... but I didn't
check it weekly, so it may have been back up early this year.

Maxwell Hoffmann
Production Lead
Welocalize

Tel. 503.274.2211
Mob. 301.693.7728
Fax: 503.274.2611
www.welocalize.com


-Original Message-
From: Bill Swallow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:10 PM
To: Milan Davidovic
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: site down

Not that I know of. I seem to remember it being sometime last
fall/winter.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Milan Davidovic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bill Swallow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up
Monday... We just don't know which Monday yet. ;-)

  Is there an official date that it has been down since? Just
curious...

-- 
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STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager
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OT: Monitor for color correction

[Hedley Finger]

Mike:
> At one time, LCDs were not supposed to be good enough for this purpose, but
> that seems to have changed. Is anyone still selling CRTs for this purpose,
> or are LCDs by LaCie, Eizo, and others the only options now? I'm not against
> LCDs-- and would actually prefer one, if not outrageously expensive.
>   
Earlier LCD monitors used a fluorescent backlight.  The LCD cells just 
act as variable transmission filters to let more or less backlight 
through the coloured filters.  The newer LCD monitors have coloured 
individual backlights for each pixel, so that the light source is the 
correct colour to begin with.  These have a wider gamut of colours, 
better contrast, and better black.  You can probably set the colour 
temperature to the recommended D65 (6500K) with these more easily. 
Samsung had several quite cheap models here in Australia (prices won't 
extrapolate easily to USA) and most manufacturers have good models 
varying from cheap and adequate to expensive.

Regards,
Hedley

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Tel. +61 3 9809 1229   Fax. (call phone first)
Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558
Email. "Hedley Finger" 

OT: Monitor for color correction

[Hedley Finger]

Sorry everybody.  The point I was trying to make that LCD/LED monitors 
have "individual LED backlights for each pixel".  Because the LED is 
already a coloured primary light source of greater purity than a fluoro 
backlight + colour filter can produce, you get a greater gamut.  And, 
because the LED can be turned off altogether, you can get better blacks.

-- Hedley
> Mike:
>   
>> At one time, LCDs were not supposed to be good enough for this purpose, but
>> that seems to have changed. Is anyone still selling CRTs for this purpose,
>> or are LCDs by LaCie, Eizo, and others the only options now? I'm not against
>> LCDs-- and would actually prefer one, if not outrageously expensive.
>>
>> 
> Earlier LCD monitors used a fluorescent backlight.  The LCD cells just
> act as variable transmission filters to let more or less backlight
> through the coloured filters.  The newer LCD monitors have coloured
> individual backlights for each pixel, so that the light source is the
> correct colour to begin with.  These have a wider gamut of colours,
> better contrast, and better black.  You can probably set the colour
> temperature to the recommended D65 (6500K) with these more easily.
> Samsung had several quite cheap models here in Australia (prices won't
> extrapolate easily to USA) and most manufacturers have good models
> varying from cheap and adequate to expensive.
>   
Hedley Finger

28 Regent Street   Camberwell VIC 3124   Australia
Tel. +61 3 9809 1229   Fax. (call phone first)
Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558
Email. "Hedley Finger" 

Deeply weird font kerning issue

[Daniel Frankham]

We've experienced something similar (using Structured FrameMaker 7.0p578
for Windows, and Acrobat 6) -- but only in text, not diagrams. We use
FrameMaker 7.2 and Acrobat 7 now, and we haven't experienced the problem
with those -- but then we haven't created any really large PDFs with it
yet.

The problem as we experienced it was like this: a PDF generated from a
large FrameMaker book would *sometimes* contain garbled text. Some
letters would be run together, so for example all the letters in a word
would be on top of each other; other text in the same line would be very
spread out. This effect would usually be seen in lines containing
in-line headings, punctuation marks (especially smart quotes), or
non-keyboard characters (the degree symbol and Greek letters were common
offendors). The affected PDFs would print exactly as they appeared on
screen. If you closed the PDF and re-opened it, it would look fine. But
if you left it open for a while, the garbling would often return sooner
or later. The effect would often appear in the most badly affected book
while the PDF was being printed, so checking the PDF before you started
printing wasn't enough to avoid junk printouts.

This affected all our large books to an extent (by large I mean between
600 and 2000 pages), but for some reason the 600 page book was the
worst. This book was originally created by another company, so we don't
know its full history. It was used as a template for our other books, so
it's possible they inherited their problems from it.

-- 
Daniel Frankham 



> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Steve Rickaby
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 April 2008 1:26 AM
> To: framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: Deeply weird font kerning issue
> 
> FrameMaker 7 for Mac, Illustrator CS2, OS X 10.4.11.
> 
> I appreciate that this is not specifically a FrameMaker 
> issue, although FrameMaker is involved. It relates to a truly 
> strange last-minute 'gotcha' on a production run for a book.
> 
> The book contained diagrams that were created in Illustrator, 
> saved as EPS files, imported into FrameMaker and a .ps and 
> press-quality PDF created from that via Distiller. The 
> diagrams used Frutiger Roman and Monospace 821 for text.
> 
> On checking the pre-press proofs, the production editor 
> spotted some text 'corruption', in that some legends in one 
> diagram in a test print from the final PDF had very uneven 
> kerning, even to the point of overlaying characters. The 
> 'corrupted' legends were words bracketed on either side by 
> guillemets, the double diagonal brackets that I believe the 
> French use as quote marks (they mean something special in UML 
> notation, which was why they were in the diagram).
> 
> I went back to the original diagrams, which looked fine. Ok, 
> I thought, invisible 'corruption': I can fix this by 
> replacing the problem text string. So I did, then reimported, 
> re-cut the PDF and test printed it. And the 'corruption' had 
> moved to the next instance below of a word enclosed by guillements. 
> 
> Right, I thought, I'll replace that and all will be well. You 
> can probably guess what happened next... the 'corruption' moved again.
> 
> There were four strings set in Frutiger and enclosed in 
> guillemets in the diagram. When I got to the last one and 
> replaced that, I though all would be well, but what actually 
> happened was that the 'corruption' moved back to the first 
> text instance.
> 
> At this point I started to feel a little like Mickey Mouse in 
> the 'Sorcerer's Apprentice' sequence in Disney's 'Fantasia'.
> 
> To cut a long story short, I figured that the problem, 
> whatever it was, was related in some to the number of 
> guillemet pairs in the diagram. My fix was therefore to make 
> one of the rectangular objects in the diagram solid white 
> fill, duplicate the last guillemet-braced legend on the 
> screen, and *hide it* behind the solid white block.
> 
> It worked. But why?
> 
> --
> Steve
> ___
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FM 8.0 Image color glitch

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Valerie,
Are any of the problem images rotated in your Frame document? In other
words, they display in landscape mode in Photoshop, and you turn them 90
degrees to portrait mode in Frame.
In my experience that produces the effect you describe.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Valerie Lipow
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:30 PM
To: Framers
Subject: FM 8.0 Image color glitch

I have a weird problem with images (.jpg) imported by reference or
copied into FM: the image colors are very strange. For example, a white
(blank) background displays as either magenta or black (or green).
Flesh-colored hues display as royal blue. Black displays as white. Green
displays as orange. I could go on, but you get the idea.

In addition, when the document is printed to the Acrobat Distiller, the
result PDF document shows the weird colors, not the original colors as
verified in PaintShop Pro AND in Photoshop.

I have looked at the Color Views dialog, but don't know what to change,
if anything. Selecting Black and White views does not help, nor does
print color as grayscale. In the File Import dialog, I am using the
default As Color.

I have never seen this kind of problem before. Any advice?

Thanks in advance,

--
Valerie Lipow
vallipow at gmail.com
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Large FM File

[Neil Tubb]

Just a quick question- can anyone tell me why putting your entire 300+
page manual into one FM file would make sense? I was always taught that
splitting it out one file per chapter was the safest and best way to go,
but I've just seen an example of the one large file approach. Does
anyone else do this? Just curious.



Neil

site down

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Question: with the site down, how does a new user join Frameusers or get
on this list? (I have a friend who's an FDK guru who really needs to
join this group.) I know that there is/was a FAQ on the www site, but
naturally I can't get to it.

FYI -- I know the site was down in Oct / Nov / Dec ... but I didn't
check it weekly, so it may have been back up early this year.

Maxwell Hoffmann
Production Lead
Welocalize

Tel. 503.274.2211
Mob. 301.693.7728
Fax: 503.274.2611
www.welocalize.com


-Original Message-
From: Bill Swallow [mailto:techcommd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:10 PM
To: Milan Davidovic
Cc: Framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Re: site down

Not that I know of. I seem to remember it being sometime last
fall/winter.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Milan Davidovic
 wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bill Swallow
 wrote:
>  > It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up
>  >  "Monday"... We just don't know which Monday yet. ;-)
>
>  Is there an "official" date that it has been down since? Just
curious...

-- 
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com

site down

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

I just did this recently, and confirmed it works today:

http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers 

It's a web interface to Mailman. The Archives are accessible from here
as well.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell
Hoffmann
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:30 PM
To: Bill Swallow; Milan Davidovic
Cc: Framers at frameusers.com
Subject: RE: site down

Question: with the site down, how does a new user join Frameusers or get
on this list? (I have a friend who's an FDK guru who really needs to
join this group.) I know that there is/was a FAQ on the www site, but
naturally I can't get to it.

FYI -- I know the site was down in Oct / Nov / Dec ... but I didn't
check it weekly, so it may have been back up early this year.

Maxwell Hoffmann
Production Lead
Welocalize

Tel. 503.274.2211
Mob. 301.693.7728
Fax: 503.274.2611
www.welocalize.com


-Original Message-
From: Bill Swallow [mailto:techcommd...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:10 PM
To: Milan Davidovic
Cc: Framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Re: site down

Not that I know of. I seem to remember it being sometime last
fall/winter.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Milan Davidovic
 wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bill Swallow
 wrote:
>  > It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up  >  
> "Monday"... We just don't know which Monday yet. ;-)
>
>  Is there an "official" date that it has been down since? Just
curious...

--
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com

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Learning curve for FrameMaker

[Mollye Barrett]

Though I don't know the release detail, Kay Whatley and Bernard Ashwanden
(Bright Path Solutions) both have books coming out very soon. I believe
they cover structured Frame in general and DITA specifics. I reviewed the
gallies at the FrameMaker Chautauqua and they appear to be promising
step-by-step books!

Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
414-331-1378


> Of course, they should. But (tying this to another thread) if
> FrameUsers.com ever came back, perhaps we could start a
> list-members-only wiki. I mean, who better than us to start such a
> thing?
>
> Mike McCallister
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rene
> Stephenson
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:30 PM
> To: Mike Wickham; Lester C. Smalley; framers at frameusers.com; Steve
> Rickaby
> Subject: Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker
>
> Maybe the should outsource the manual to someone on this list. ;-)
>
>
> Rene L. Stephenson
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Mike Wickham 
> To: Lester C. Smalley ; framers at frameusers.com;
> Steve Rickaby 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:00:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker
>
>> Lester omits to mention what will be known to many here  - that the
>> Frame
>> 5 manual was the last to be
>> produced by the tech authors at Frame Corp. I have a copy, and yes, it
>
>> is a lot better than the current offering (although I've not seen a
>> FrameMaker 8 manual.)
>
> The FrameMaker 8 manual is worse, because there isn't on-- at least, no
> hard copy is included or sold separately. Adobe does include a file on
> the CD that you can print and bind yourself, but sheesh. It's over 1000
> pages and awkward to print and bind in an office. I'm thinking about
> sending it off to a POD printer to get a printed/bound copy (split into
> two volumes for convenience).
>
> Mike Wickham
>
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Large FM File

[Milan Davidovic]

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Neil Tubb  
wrote:
> I was always taught that
> splitting it out one file per chapter was the safest and best way to go,
> but I've just seen an example of the one large file approach. Does
> anyone else do this? Just curious.

I'm also curious -- did someone offer you a rationale for the OHF (one
huge file)?

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Large FM File

[Rene Stephenson]

Sounds to me like someone who knows and likes Word thinks the world should spin 
that way...even though they don't realize they're talking about a true 
planetary ecosystem this time and not just a globe. :-}

Page numbering becomes problematic if you're trying to do folio by chapter page 
numbering. (However, some would argue that folio by chapter numbering is just a 
tired hold-over from the days of typewriting and manual typesetting, and that 
it has no place in modern publications.) It's also a pain to load and navigate 
a huge FM file as a writer; and then there's the inherent issues of how FM 
handles generated files like TOC, LOT, LOF, which if you try to do a single FM 
file, you'd have to use text insets, and a few strings in the past week or so 
discussed the pitfalls thereof. 

I can't think of anything that you'd gain having it in a single file that you'd 
lose by using the .book[multi-.fm] architecture.  I think MAYBE the only time 
doing it all in a single FM file, especially with embedded graphics (which 
wasn't mentioned one way or the other), would be for checking it into some kind 
of version control system...and even that is arguable, as have we have seen 
lots of times on this list.  ;-)

Just my perspective, but I say: I don't tell the programmers how to architect 
their code...because I'm not a professional programmer. Similarly, non-writers 
should leave the details to the experts and just ask the appropriate questions 
for resource management and output QA.  :-) 


Rene L. Stephenson



- Original Message 
From: Neil Tubb 
To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2008 2:32:50 PM
Subject: Large FM File

Just a quick question- can anyone tell me why putting your entire 300+
page manual into one FM file would make sense? I was always taught that
splitting it out one file per chapter was the safest and best way to go,
but I've just seen an example of the one large file approach. Does
anyone else do this? Just curious.



Neil





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Large FM File

[Combs, Richard]

Neil Tubb wrote:

> Just a quick question- can anyone tell me why putting your 
> entire 300+ page manual into one FM file would make sense? I 
> was always taught that splitting it out one file per chapter 
> was the safest and best way to go, but I've just seen an 
> example of the one large file approach. Does anyone else do 
> this? Just curious.

In my experience, this is done by people coming from MS Word and/or
unfamiliar with how FM books work. I seem to recall someone posting to
this list that they were using a single file so their figure numbering
would be continuous throughout the book. Sigh...

IMHO, there is no good reason for ever creating a single-file 300-page
manual in FM. 

Richard


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[Whites]

On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Bill Swallow wrote:

> It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up
> "Monday"... We just don't know which Monday yet. ;-)
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:49 AM, bryan johnson
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Re: which Monday -

Back in the Good Old Days in the early 70s I spent a year in People's  
Poland.
They used the Soviet method of telling time then:

When someone said "right away", it meant "tomorrow";
when he said "tomorrow", it meant "Monday";
And when he said "Monday", it meant "never".

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Second Soviet Citizen: Average. Worse than yesterday, better than  
tomorrow.
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FM 8.0 Image color glitch

[Valerie Lipow]

I have a weird problem with images (.jpg) imported by reference or copied
into FM: the image colors are very strange. For example, a white (blank)
background displays as either magenta or black (or green). Flesh-colored
hues display as royal blue. Black displays as white. Green displays as
orange. I could go on, but you get the idea.

In addition, when the document is printed to the Acrobat Distiller, the
result PDF document shows the weird colors, not the original colors as
verified in PaintShop Pro AND in Photoshop.

I have looked at the Color Views dialog, but don't know what to change, if
anything. Selecting Black and White views does not help, nor does print
color as grayscale. In the File Import dialog, I am using the default As
Color.

I have never seen this kind of problem before. Any advice?

Thanks in advance,

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