RE: custom HTML via FM marker in RH?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Bill,

How does a custom marker normally appear when processed in RoboHelp? It may
be easier to manipulate the HTML files after RoboHelp outputs them.

Rick

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I need to convert a custom FM marker containing a string to a
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Re: custom HTML via FM marker in RH?

[Bill Swallow]

Good thinking. It became a non-issue for me, specifically. But I think
a feature request along the lines of being able to define actions for
custom FM markers in RH without using the scripting tool from a blank
starting point is warranted.

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 Hi Bill,

 How does a custom marker normally appear when processed in RoboHelp? It may
 be easier to manipulate the HTML files after RoboHelp outputs them.

 Rick

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Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

[Kelly McDaniel]

Does anyone have a current comparison they can share?...thanks, Kelly.

 

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Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

[Bill Swallow]

You're really talking apples vs. oranges here. Maybe you could be more
specific about what you're looking for? Both allow you to create
documents but in potentially very different manners.

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 Does anyone have a current comparison they can share?...thanks, Kelly.



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RE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

[Gerald Robertson]

My current assignment, I started the manuals in word. After I left, they wanted 
to have a staff member to be able to maintain the manuals without any special 
training. The manual was illustration  cross-reference heavy  started to 
crash after it exceeded 100 pages. Large illustration rich documents need frame.

 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 13:07:38 -0400
 Subject: Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word
 From: techcommd...@gmail.com
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 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 You're really talking apples vs. oranges here. Maybe you could be more
 specific about what you're looking for? Both allow you to create
 documents but in potentially very different manners.
 
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  Does anyone have a current comparison they can share?...thanks, Kelly.
 
 
 
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Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast

First the setup:  WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9 Professional

Now the dilemma:  

In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and breakout of 
different 
levels:

Level Page Number

L1IOM ... X-X
  L2IOM . Y-Y
   L3IOM  Z-Z

The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is drawn (for 
lack of a 
better word) around the leader dots and page number and NOT the text in the 
respective IOM.

I know there was a fix for this quite a while ago, but for the life of me, I 
can't 
remember what that was.

Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???

All the best

From New York

Eduardo



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Re: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[David Spreadbury]

Eduardo,
Are you trying to create an Index or an Index (IX) of Markers (IOM)?
 
With your book open, select Add  Standard Index. This will create an Index 
(.ix) file of the Index entries you have embedded in your doc.
 
From what you are saying you appear to be attempting to create an Index of 
Markers.

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. ecid...@zoominternet.net wrote:


From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. ecid...@zoominternet.net
Subject: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 5:42 PM


Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast

First the setup:  WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9 Professional

Now the dilemma:  

In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and breakout of 
different 
levels:

Level     Page Number

L1IOM ... X-X
  L2IOM . Y-Y
   L3IOM  Z-Z

The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is drawn (for 
lack of a 
better word) around the leader dots and page number and NOT the text in the 
respective IOM.

I know there was a fix for this quite a while ago, but for the life of me, I 
can't 
remember what that was.

Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???

All the best

From New York

Eduardo
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Re: Re: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

David

Generating the index isn't a problem.  It's the resulting PDFthe linking 
area doesn't 
extend to the entire index entryonly the leader dots and page numbering.

Thank you

All the best

Eduardo


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On Tue 01/06/10 21:18 , David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com sent:
 Eduardo, Are you trying to create an Index or an Index (IX) of
 Markers (IOM)?   With your book open, select Add  Standard Index.
 This will create an Index (.ix) file of the Index entries you have
 embedded in your doc.   From what you are saying you appear to be
 attempting to create an Index of Markers.
 
 --- On TUE, 6/1/10, EDUARDO F. CIDADE SR. __ wrote:
 From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. 
 Subject: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 5:42 PM
 
 Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast
 
 First the setup:  WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9
 Professional
 
 Now the dilemma:  
 
 In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and
 breakout of different 
 levels:
 
 Level Page Number
 
 L1IOM ... X-X
 L2IOM . Y-Y
 L3IOM  Z-Z
 
 The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is
 drawn (for lack of a 
 better word) around the leader dots and page number and NOT the text
 in the respective IOM.
 
 I know there was a fix for this quite a while ago, but for the life
 of me, I can't 
 remember what that was.
 
 Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???
 
 All the best
 
 From New York
 
 Eduardo
 
 


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Re: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Les Smalley]

Is there any change in the font characteristics across the two pieces (size, 
weight, etc.) of your entry - the content from the marker and the leader/page 
number?

The default behavior is that Frame will make the link area begin at the page 
number (turn on the display of markers in the index) and a hyperlink will span 
only across text of identical font characteristics.

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. ecid...@zoominternet.net wrote:
David

Generating the index isn't a problem.  It's the resulting PDFthe linking 
area doesn't extend to the entire index entryonly the leader dots and page 
numbering.

Thank you

All the best

Eduardo

Electronic Signature:

Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.

On Tue 01/06/10 21:18 , David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com sent:

 Eduardo, Are you trying to create an Index or an Index (IX) of
 Markers (IOM)?   With your book open, select Add  Standard Index.
 This will create an Index (.ix) file of the Index entries you have
 embedded in your doc.   From what you are saying you appear to be
 attempting to create an Index of Markers.
 
 --- On TUE, 6/1/10, EDUARDO F. CIDADE SR. __ wrote:
 
 Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast
 
 First the setup: WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9 Professional
 
 Now the dilemma:  
 
 In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and
 breakout of different levels:
 
 Level     Page Number
 
 L1IOM ... X-X
 L2IOM . Y-Y
 L3IOM  Z-Z
 
 The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is
 drawn (for lack of a better word) around the leader dots and page
 number and NOT the text in the respective IOM.
 
 I know there was a fix for this quite a while ago, but for the life
 of me, I can't remember what that was.
 
 Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???
 
 All the best
 
 From New York
 
 Eduardo
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Re: Re: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

Thanks for the insight Les

That's one of the amazing things about this onethe font characteristics 
across both 
pieces of information are identicalthat's what has me a bit stumped.

But will investigate it in the morningcloser look might be in order

Thank you

All the best

Eduardo


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On Tue 01/06/10 22:27 , Les Smalley l_c_smal...@yahoo.com sent:
 Is there any change in the font characteristics across the two pieces
 (size, weight, etc.) of your entry - the content from the marker and
 the leader/page number?
 
 The default behavior is that Frame will make the link area begin at
 the page number (turn on the display of markers in the index) and a
 hyperlink will span only across text of identical font
 characteristics.
 
 --- On TUE, 6/1/10, EDUARDO F. CIDADE SR. _ _ wrote:
 David
 
 Generating the index isn't a problem.  It's the resulting PDFthe
 linking area doesn't extend to the entire index entryonly the
 leader dots and page numbering.
 
 Thank you
 
 All the best
 
 Eduardo
 
 Electronic Signature:
 
 Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
 
 On Tue 01/06/10 21:18 , David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com sent:
 
  Eduardo, Are you trying to create an Index or an Index (IX) of
  Markers (IOM)?   With your book open, select Add  Standard Index.
  This will create an Index (.ix) file of the Index entries you have
  embedded in your doc.   From what you are saying you appear to be
  attempting to create an Index of Markers.
  
  --- On TUE, 6/1/10, EDUARDO F. CIDADE SR. __ wrote:
  
  Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast
  
  First the setup: WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9
 Professional
  
  Now the dilemma:  
  
  In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and
  breakout of different levels:
  
  Level Page Number
  
  L1IOM ... X-X
  L2IOM . Y-Y
  L3IOM  Z-Z
  
  The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is
  drawn (for lack of a better word) around the leader dots and page
  number and NOT the text in the respective IOM.
  
  I know there was a fix for this quite a while ago, but for the
 life
  of me, I can't remember what that was.
  
  Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???
  
  All the best
  
  From New York
  
  Eduardo
 
 


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RE: Re: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Combs, Richard]

Eduardo F.Cidade Sr. wrote:
 
 Generating the index isn't a problem.  It's the resulting PDFthe
 linking area doesn't
 extend to the entire index entryonly the leader dots and page
 numbering.

This is the expected behavior for an index (except that indexes normally don't 
have leader dots). An index is an alphabetical list of index entries and the 
often multiple pages on which each entry occurs. Thus, only the page numbers 
are hyperlinked, since there may be multiple page numbers per entry. 

As for the leader dots being part of the active area: I've never seen an index 
set up that way, but I'm guessing that in the reference page IX flow (the index 
spec), the tab is inserted in the IndexIX paragraph, in front of $pagenum. 
It's the contents of the IndexIX paragraph that FM uses for to add the page 
numbers to each index entry. 

For what you seem to be trying to achieve, you may want to try an alphabetical 
list of markers (ALM) instead of an index. From the book window, select Add  
List of  Markers (Alphabetical). 

Of course, you'll have to go to the reference pages and set up the ALM flow to 
format the list properly, defining a leader tab and inserting the tab between 
$markertext and $pagenum. But the hypertext marker in the generated list is 
at the beginning of each paragraph, so the entire entry (barring a font change) 
becomes a hot spot. 

Come to think of it, I'm not sure how or if you can do multiple levels -- but 
the fact that there is a Level1AML paragraph suggests it may be possible. Good 
luck experimenting! :-)


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Polycom, Inc.
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RE: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Fred Ridder]

 Generating the index isn't a problem. It's the resulting PDFthe linking 
 area doesn't 
 extend to the entire index entryonly the leader dots and page numbering.


It is normal behavior for the active area in generated indexes to include only 
the page numbers and the leading punctuation. The reason is that it is 
completely normal to have a list of multiple page numbers for any given index 
entry. Whenever you have multiple page references it makes no sense to include 
the text of the index entry as part of the hotspot for the first page 
reference, and it makes no sense to have two different behaviors depending on 
single or multiple references, so the standard behavior is the one that's right 
for multipel references. This is one of the fundamental differences between a 
generated list (one entry per occurrence) and a generated index (multiple 
references per entry).

If you are generating a special kind of index where no entry ever has more than 
one page reference, it is possible to move the hypertext marker (or to create a 
duplicate copy) of each hypertext marker at the beginning of each index entry 
paragraph so that the active area includes the whole paragraph rather than just 
the page number. I believe someone has written a script to do this if you have 
FrameScript on your system. Or else you could generate it as a list rather than 
an index.

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custom HTML via FM marker in RH?

[Bill Swallow]

Good thinking. It became a non-issue for me, specifically. But I think
a feature request along the lines of being able to define actions for
custom FM markers in RH without using the scripting tool from a blank
starting point is warranted.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Rick Quatro  wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> How does a custom marker normally appear when processed in RoboHelp? It may
> be easier to manipulate the HTML files after RoboHelp outputs them.
>
> Rick

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Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

[Kelly McDaniel]

Does anyone have a current comparison they can share?...thanks, Kelly.



Kelly M. McDaniel

Senior Technical Writer - R Rockwell Automation

Austin, Texas - 512.438.1521

Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

[Bill Swallow]

You're really talking apples vs. oranges here. Maybe you could be more
specific about what you're looking for? Both allow you to create
documents but in potentially very different manners.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Kelly McDaniel  
wrote:
> Does anyone have a current comparison they can share?...thanks, Kelly.
>
>
>
> Kelly M. McDaniel
>
> Senior Technical Writer - R Rockwell Automation
>
> Austin, Texas - 512.438.1521
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Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

[Gerald Robertson]

My current assignment, I started the manuals in word. After I left, they wanted 
to have a staff member to be able to maintain the manuals without any special 
training. The manual was illustration & cross-reference heavy & started to 
crash after it exceeded 100 pages. Large illustration rich documents need frame.

> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 13:07:38 -0400
> Subject: Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word
> From: techcommdood at gmail.com
> To: kmcdaniel at pavtech.com
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> You're really talking apples vs. oranges here. Maybe you could be more
> specific about what you're looking for? Both allow you to create
> documents but in potentially very different manners.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Kelly McDaniel  
> wrote:
> > Does anyone have a current comparison they can share?...thanks, Kelly.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kelly M. McDaniel
> >
> > Senior Technical Writer - R Rockwell Automation
> >
> > Austin, Texas - 512.438.1521
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Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast

First the setup:  WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9 Professional

Now the dilemma:  

In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and "breakout" of 
different 
levels:

Level Page Number

L1IOM ... X-X
  L2IOM . Y-Y
   L3IOM  Z-Z

The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is "drawn" (for 
lack of a 
better word) around the leader dots and page number and NOT the text in the 
respective IOM.

I know there was a "fix" for this quite a while ago, but for the life of me, I 
can't 
remember what that was.

Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???

All the best

>From New York

Eduardo

Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[David Spreadbury]

Eduardo,
Are you trying to create an Index or an Index (IX) of Markers (IOM)?
?
With your book open, select Add > Standard Index. This will create an Index 
(.ix) file of the Index entries you have embedded in your doc.
?
>From what you are saying you appear to be attempting to create an Index of 
>Markers.

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.  wrote:


From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. 
Subject: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 5:42 PM


Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast

First the setup:? WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9 Professional

Now the dilemma:? 

In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and "breakout" of 
different 
levels:

Level? ???Page Number

L1IOM ... X-X
? L2IOM . Y-Y
???L3IOM  Z-Z

The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is "drawn" (for 
lack of a 
better word) around the leader dots and page number and NOT the text in the 
respective IOM.

I know there was a "fix" for this quite a while ago, but for the life of me, I 
can't 
remember what that was.

Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???

All the best

>From New York

Eduardo

Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

David

Generating the index isn't a problem.  It's the resulting PDFthe linking 
area doesn't 
extend to the entire index entryonly the leader dots and page numbering.

Thank you

All the best

Eduardo


Electronic Signature:

Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.

On Tue 01/06/10 21:18 , David Spreadbury dspreadb at yahoo.com sent:
> Eduardo, Are you trying to create an Index or an Index (IX) of
> Markers (IOM)?   With your book open, select Add > Standard Index.
> This will create an Index (.ix) file of the Index entries you have
> embedded in your doc.   From what you are saying you appear to be
> attempting to create an Index of Markers.
> 
> --- On TUE, 6/1/10, EDUARDO F. CIDADE SR. __ wrote:
> From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. 
> Subject: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 5:42 PM
> 
> Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast
> 
> First the setup:  WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9
> Professional
> 
> Now the dilemma:  
> 
> In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and
> "breakout" of different 
> levels:
> 
> Level Page Number
> 
> L1IOM ... X-X
> L2IOM . Y-Y
> L3IOM  Z-Z
> 
> The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is
> "drawn" (for lack of a 
> better word) around the leader dots and page number and NOT the text
> in the respective IOM.
> 
> I know there was a "fix" for this quite a while ago, but for the life
> of me, I can't 
> remember what that was.
> 
> Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???
> 
> All the best
> 
> From New York
> 
> Eduardo
> 
> 

Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Les Smalley]

Is there any change in the font characteristics across the two pieces (size, 
weight, etc.) of your entry - the content from the marker and the leader/page 
number?

The default behavior is that Frame will make the link area begin at the page 
number (turn on the display of markers in the index) and a hyperlink will span 
only across text of identical font characteristics.

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.  wrote:
David

Generating the index isn't a problem.? It's the resulting PDFthe linking 
area doesn't extend to the entire index entryonly the leader dots and page 
numbering.

Thank you

All the best

Eduardo

Electronic Signature:

Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.

On Tue 01/06/10 21:18 , David Spreadbury dspreadb at yahoo.com sent:

> Eduardo, Are you trying to create an Index or an Index (IX) of
> Markers (IOM)With your book open, select Add > Standard Index.
> This will create an Index (.ix) file of the Index entries you have
> embedded in your doc.???From what you are saying you appear to be
> attempting to create an Index of Markers.
> 
> --- On TUE, 6/1/10, EDUARDO F. CIDADE SR. __ wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast
> 
> First the setup: WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9 Professional
> 
> Now the dilemma:? 
> 
> In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and
> "breakout" of different levels:
> 
> Level? ???Page Number
> 
> L1IOM ... X-X
> L2IOM . Y-Y
> L3IOM  Z-Z
> 
> The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is
> "drawn" (for lack of a better word) around the leader dots and page
> number and NOT the text in the respective IOM.
> 
> I know there was a "fix" for this quite a while ago, but for the life
> of me, I can't remember what that was.
> 
> Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???
> 
> All the best
> 
> From New York
> 
> Eduardo

Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Combs, Richard]

Eduardo F.Cidade Sr. wrote:

> Generating the index isn't a problem.  It's the resulting PDFthe
> linking area doesn't
> extend to the entire index entryonly the leader dots and page
> numbering.

This is the expected behavior for an index (except that indexes normally don't 
have leader dots). An index is an alphabetical list of index entries and the 
often multiple pages on which each entry occurs. Thus, only the page numbers 
are hyperlinked, since there may be multiple page numbers per entry. 

As for the leader dots being part of the active area: I've never seen an index 
set up that way, but I'm guessing that in the reference page IX flow (the index 
spec), the tab is inserted in the IndexIX paragraph, in front of <$pagenum>. 
It's the contents of the IndexIX paragraph that FM uses for to add the page 
numbers to each index entry. 

For what you seem to be trying to achieve, you may want to try an alphabetical 
list of markers (ALM) instead of an index. From the book window, select Add > 
List of > Markers (Alphabetical). 

Of course, you'll have to go to the reference pages and set up the ALM flow to 
format the list properly, defining a leader tab and inserting the tab between 
<$markertext> and <$pagenum>. But the hypertext marker in the generated list is 
at the beginning of each paragraph, so the entire entry (barring a font change) 
becomes a hot spot. 

Come to think of it, I'm not sure how or if you can do multiple levels -- but 
the fact that there is a Level1AML paragraph suggests it may be possible. Good 
luck experimenting! :-)


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

[Steve Johnson]

Where do you want to start? If you want professional documentation do
not use Word, do not even think about it.

Word cannot handle cross-references, there are various anomalies when
converting Word to PDF. Word has had a bug since 2.0 such that if you
put a hard page break directly in front of a heading and then
cross-reference to that heading, Word inserts a hard page break in
front of the cross-reference.

Word's attempts at paragraph formatting and templating are pathetic.
In general, maintaining formatting consistency is a huge PITA with
Word, whereas Frame gives you no trouble at all.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Kelly McDaniel  
wrote:
> Does anyone have a current comparison they can share?...thanks, Kelly.
>
>
>
> Kelly M. McDaniel
>
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>
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>
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Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

[Steve Johnson]

... and lest I forget, numbered lists are a NIGHTMARE in Word,
effortless in Frame.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Steve Johnson  wrote:
> Where do you want to start? If you want professional documentation do
> not use Word, do not even think about it.
>
> Word cannot handle cross-references, there are various anomalies when
> converting Word to PDF. Word has had a bug since 2.0 such that if you
> put a hard page break directly in front of a heading and then
> cross-reference to that heading, Word inserts a hard page break in
> front of the cross-reference.
>
> Word's attempts at paragraph formatting and templating are pathetic.
> In general, maintaining formatting consistency is a huge PITA with
> Word, whereas Frame gives you no trouble at all.
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Kelly McDaniel  
> wrote:
>> Does anyone have a current comparison they can share?...thanks, Kelly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kelly M. McDaniel
>>
>> Senior Technical Writer - R Rockwell Automation
>>
>> Austin, Texas - 512.438.1521
>>
>>
>>
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Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Berny Gagne]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the default behaviour for Index pages? 
Who wants the link to be active for the text as well when you have several 
pages for the same text entry? The idea is to have only the page number active 
as a link.

Berny Gagne

On 1 Jun 2010, at 9:43 PM, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. wrote:

David

Generating the index isn't a problem.  It's the resulting PDFthe linking 
area doesn't 
extend to the entire index entryonly the leader dots and page numbering.

Thank you

All the best

Eduardo


Electronic Signature:

Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.

On Tue 01/06/10 21:18 , David Spreadbury dspreadb at yahoo.com sent:
> Eduardo, Are you trying to create an Index or an Index (IX) of
> Markers (IOM)?   With your book open, select Add > Standard Index.
> This will create an Index (.ix) file of the Index entries you have
> embedded in your doc.   From what you are saying you appear to be
> attempting to create an Index of Markers.
> 
> --- On TUE, 6/1/10, EDUARDO F. CIDADE SR. __ wrote:
> From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. 
> Subject: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 5:42 PM
> 
> Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast
> 
> First the setup:  WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9
> Professional
> 
> Now the dilemma:  
> 
> In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and
> "breakout" of different 
> levels:
> 
> Level Page Number
> 
> L1IOM ... X-X
> L2IOM . Y-Y
> L3IOM  Z-Z
> 
> The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is
> "drawn" (for lack of a 
> better word) around the leader dots and page number and NOT the text
> in the respective IOM.
> 
> I know there was a "fix" for this quite a while ago, but for the life
> of me, I can't 
> remember what that was.
> 
> Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???
> 
> All the best
> 
> From New York
> 
> Eduardo
> 
> 


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custom HTML via FM marker in RH?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Bill,

How does a custom marker normally appear when processed in RoboHelp? It may
be easier to manipulate the HTML files after RoboHelp outputs them.

Rick

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I need to convert a custom FM marker containing a string to  in RH, using TCS2. Ideas?

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