Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

2010-08-12 Thread Steve Johnson
No, Adobe does not care to make such a statement. Dov said he argued
with them to do it and they didn't.

If you have both and they don't cause a problem, why change? OTOH, if
you're having some issues and you can't pin them down, why not
uninstall Reader?

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Neeraj Jain neerajja...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dov,

 
 The fact that Adobe doesn't prohibit you from parallel installation of
 Acrobat and Reader doesn't mean that such installations are recommended
 or really useful.


 What about listing the above as Caution, Important, or things to avoid on
 the software downloads site?

 What you are saying, is that reflected in Adobe documentation?


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 From: Dov Isaacs isa...@adobe.com
 To: dr_go...@pobox.com dr_go...@pobox.com
 Cc: Framers E-mail List framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Sent: Wed, 11 August, 2010 5:26:02 AM
 Subject: RE: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

 Steve,

 Read the original thread. I am not going to repeat everything (and
 it was quite a lot) that was discussed on this forum a few weeks ago,
 especially related to engineering and testing discipline as far as
 how PDF files are viewed and processed under what circumstances.

 But NO, there is nothing WRITTEN about this from Adobe. On the other
 hand, you should trust what I am telling you based on my 21 years at
 Adobe and my working with Acrobat and Reader since Release 1 of same
 as well as having to debug workflows and PDF files during all that time.

 Quite frankly, the only time I had problems with anyone viewing a PDF
 file that I produced on Acrobat-only systems (no Reader co-installed)
 were with users who insisted on using St. Steve the Infallible's MacOS
 Preview program's subset PDF viewing capabilities (or lack thereof).

 The fact that Adobe doesn't prohibit you from parallel installation of
 Acrobat and Reader doesn't mean that such installations are recommended
 or really useful.

     - Dov


 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
 Steve Johnson
 Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:10 AM
 To: Dov Isaacs
 Cc: Framers E-mail List
 Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster

 Show me in writing where Adobe says you should not install the same
 version of Reader and Acrobat on the same system. I cannot find it.
 It's not on the download page of either product, which is where it
 should be. All I can find is info saying you should not install two
 different versions of the same product.

 Even though you're an authority, all I have seen is unsupported
 statements like this saying I heard that Adobe says you should not do
 this but where is the statement against it saying why not? And if
 it's so dadgum important, why do the two products allow themselves to
 be installed side by side?

 For several versions now, you cannot run both Acrobat and Reader at
 the same time. I think you're right that Acrobat doesn't install
 Reader. I must have done the Reader install separately.

 The thing about wanting both Reader and Pro because of print/view
 differences is a few versions old but I remember there being
 situations in the past where viewing and printing with each product
 had differences.

 On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Dov Isaacs isa...@adobe.com wrote:
  Guy,
 
  See previous responses. Yes, there are UI differences between
  Acrobat and Reader, but unless you are invoking rather complex
  Javascript routines that invoke functions that are allowed in
  Acrobat but not Reader, other than font issues (you should NEVER,
  repeat NEVER, repeat once again NEVER generate PDF files with
  unembedded fonts), you should not see any real differences between
  rendering in Acrobat versus Reader - and the font issue itself
  would mean that you need to run in a separate environment to gauge
  the effects of unembedded fonts.
 
         - Dov
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Guy K. Haas [mailto:g...@hiskeyboard.com]
  Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:57 AM
  To: Dov Isaacs
  Cc: Framers E-mail List
  Subject: Re: Acrobat 9 - a disaster
 
  But, Dov---
 
  I have both installed so that when a reviewer runs into a problem, I
  can
  see it their way.  The interfaces of the two are so different that
  it's sometimes handy to be able to do this.
 
  Would it be any less NOT RECOMMENDED if one had the Reader on a
  removable drive (such as a USB drive) and plugged it in only when
  needed?
 
  --Guy K. Haas
     Software Exegete in Silicon Valley
 
 
  On 7/25/2010 7:23 AM, Dov Isaacs wrote:
   Although you CAN have both Reader and Acrobat installed
   simultaneously
   (assuming the same version), it is very strongly NOT RECOMMENDED for
   a
   number of very good reasons. It certainly does not add any
   functionality
   to one's 

Bugs in Fm9p255 spelling checker

2010-08-12 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi group

I'm seeing some bugs in the Fm9p255 spelling checker (language: US English).
This is what the spelling checker shows me:

Misspelling? recoreded
Correction: rec or ed ed

Of course, I can select the word recorded in the list, but it's only on the
second position. And why does the spelling checker suggest rec or ed ed as
a correction anyway? Is this some form of Globish (Global English) I have
yet to learn?

Also:

Misspelling? communcation
Correction: co mm un cation

and:

Misspelling? seperator
Correction: se pera tor

Luckily, all is well in FrameMaker 8:

Misspelling? seperator
Correction: separator

Misspelling? communcation
Correction: communication

Misspelling? recoreded
Correction: recorded


Ki nd re gar ds



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www.scripto.nu
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FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem

2010-08-12 Thread Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .
Good morning to my fellow Frame Templars

Here's the setup:  WXP, SP3, Frame 9.0p237 (unstructured)

Problem:

At any given time, the Paragraph Designer quits.  It displays when called 
upon and works 
and that's all well and good but without notice suddenly becomes 
non-functioning.

This happens without warning and under any one of given scenarios:  single 
screen, multiple 
screens, you name it.

Anyone have a clue?

Thanks

From New York and JetBlue Airways

Eduardo

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Re: FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem

2010-08-12 Thread Art Campbell
First thing I'd try is installing the patches you're missing. Current
release level is p255 

Although, having said that, mine occasionally dies too. Usually after
I toggle auto-collapse pods on or off, or run through a bunch of
changes in the designer.

I usually reboot and that clears the problem for a day or so.

Art Campbell
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Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.
ecid...@zoominternet.net wrote:
 Good morning to my fellow Frame Templars

 Here's the setup:  WXP, SP3, Frame 9.0p237 (unstructured)

 Problem:

 At any given time, the Paragraph Designer quits.  It displays when called 
 upon and works
 and that's all well and good but without notice suddenly becomes 
 non-functioning.

 This happens without warning and under any one of given scenarios:  single 
 screen, multiple
 screens, you name it.

 Anyone have a clue?

 Thanks

 From New York and JetBlue Airways

 Eduardo

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Re: FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem

2010-08-12 Thread Writer
This was discussed before, but I can't find the thread. The upshot was that if 
you have the Paragraph Designer open, but you adjust the tabs on the ruler, 
rather than within the Paragraph Designer, it would cause the PD to freeze.

In addition, you might want to apply the newest patch (255) to FM9. I *think* 
this patch resolved the issue.

Nadine

--- On Thu, 8/12/10, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. ecid...@zoominternet.net wrote:

 From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. ecid...@zoominternet.net
 Subject: FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:53 AM
 Good morning to my fellow Frame
 Templars
 
 Here's the setup:  WXP, SP3, Frame 9.0p237
 (unstructured)
 
 Problem:
 
 At any given time, the Paragraph Designer quits.  It
 displays when called upon and works 
 and that's all well and good but without notice suddenly
 becomes non-functioning.
 
 This happens without warning and under any one of given
 scenarios:  single screen, multiple 
 screens, you name it.
 
 Anyone have a clue?
 
 Thanks
 
 From New York and JetBlue Airways
 
 Eduardo
 
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Re: FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem

2010-08-12 Thread Art Campbell
Nope; still present in 255.

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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Writer generic...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 This was discussed before, but I can't find the thread. The upshot was that 
 if you have the Paragraph Designer open, but you adjust the tabs on the 
 ruler, rather than within the Paragraph Designer, it would cause the PD to 
 freeze.

 In addition, you might want to apply the newest patch (255) to FM9. I *think* 
 this patch resolved the issue.

 Nadine

 --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. ecid...@zoominternet.net wrote:

 From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. ecid...@zoominternet.net
 Subject: FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:53 AM
 Good morning to my fellow Frame
 Templars

 Here's the setup:  WXP, SP3, Frame 9.0p237
 (unstructured)

 Problem:

 At any given time, the Paragraph Designer quits.  It
 displays when called upon and works
 and that's all well and good but without notice suddenly
 becomes non-functioning.

 This happens without warning and under any one of given
 scenarios:  single screen, multiple
 screens, you name it.

 Anyone have a clue?

 Thanks

 From New York and JetBlue Airways

 Eduardo

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Re: FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem

2010-08-12 Thread Writer
Rats!

I thought it might be fixed with that patch because I tried getting the PD db 
to freeze, and it didn't. I guess it only freezes if you're doing serious work. 
=D

Nadine

--- On Thu, 8/12/10, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem
 To: generic...@yahoo.ca
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com, ecid...@zoominternet.net
 Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 12:59 PM
 Nope; still present in 255.
 
 Art Campbell
                art.campb...@gmail.com
   ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats
 a '52
 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
                                        
               No disclaimers apply.
                                        
                        DoD 358
 
 
 
 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Writer generic...@yahoo.ca
 wrote:
  This was discussed before, but I can't find the
 thread. The upshot was that if you have the Paragraph
 Designer open, but you adjust the tabs on the ruler, rather
 than within the Paragraph Designer, it would cause the PD to
 freeze.
 
  In addition, you might want to apply the newest patch
 (255) to FM9. I *think* this patch resolved the issue.
 
  Nadine
 
  --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. ecid...@zoominternet.net
 wrote:
 
  From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. ecid...@zoominternet.net
  Subject: FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:53 AM
  Good morning to my fellow Frame
  Templars
 
  Here's the setup:  WXP, SP3, Frame 9.0p237
  (unstructured)
 
  Problem:
 
  At any given time, the Paragraph Designer
 quits.  It
  displays when called upon and works
  and that's all well and good but without notice
 suddenly
  becomes non-functioning.
 
  This happens without warning and under any one of
 given
  scenarios:  single screen, multiple
  screens, you name it.
 
  Anyone have a clue?
 
  Thanks
 
  From New York and JetBlue Airways
 
  Eduardo
 
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FM9 Crash Conditional Formats

2010-08-12 Thread Stephen O'Brien

Hi all,

I use FM9 p255 under Windows XP

On accessing the Conditional Format pod by menu 
or by clicking the pod, FM crashes...


Today, at least 3 times!

Anyone else out there have the same problem?

Thx...I am not used to this! Just hired new tech 
writer - told her FM was stable...


Stephen

Stephen O'Brien

Coordonnateur à la documentation / Documentation Coordinator
Rédacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
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RE: FM9 Crash Conditional Formats

2010-08-12 Thread Alison Craig
Here is an excerpt from a thread back in early July:

6/07/2010, at 11:47 PM:

 I used to have several dialog boxes combined into one strip, taking 
 advantage of FM9's new capabilities. Well, I tried separating all of 
 them into separate dialog boxes and since them I haven't had any 
 crashes. I still have the Paragraph, Character and Table Designer 
 together, and I haven't had any problem.

 Just thought I share this with the list.


I tried this as well although I didn't separate quite everything. I still 
crash, but it's very infrequent.

Alison

Alison Craig, Technical Writer
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com


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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:26 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; fram...@omsys.com
Subject: FM9 Crash Conditional Formats

Hi all,

I use FM9 p255 under Windows XP

On accessing the Conditional Format pod by menu 
or by clicking the pod, FM crashes...

Today, at least 3 times!

Anyone else out there have the same problem?

Thx...I am not used to this! Just hired new tech 
writer - told her FM was stable...

Stephen

Stephen O'Brien

Coordonnateur à la documentation / Documentation Coordinator
Rédacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310
Québec (Québec) Canada G1N 4N6

Tel.: (418) 688-2061
Fax: (418) 688-3001
E-mail: sobr...@innovmetric.com
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Re: Text High in Table Cells

2010-08-12 Thread Nancy Allison
Hi, Mike and all.

Nope, using both ascenders and descenders.

Gotta look for the baseline synchronization setting. I've never heard of it.



On Aug 11, 2010, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com wrote: 

 Problem: Text in table cells is high, not centered vertically.

Without actually trying out the settings to see if my results are the same, 
I wonder if the base-line synchronization setting, which can make the 
first line in a column bump up a little higher has an effect. Or is it 
possible that you are testing with character glyphs, such as numbers, that 
have no descenders. 
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Re: Text High in Table Cells

2010-08-12 Thread Mike Wickham




Hi, Mike and all.

Nope, using both ascenders and descenders.

Gotta look for the baseline synchronization setting. I've never heard of 
it.


Oops. I typed that wrong. It is the First-Line Synchronization Limit I was 
thinking of. It's at Format Page Layout Line Layout.


Mike Wickham


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Bugs in Fm9p255 spelling checker

2010-08-12 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi group

I'm seeing some bugs in the Fm9p255 spelling checker (language: US English).
This is what the spelling checker shows me:

Misspelling? recoreded
Correction: rec or ed ed

Of course, I can select the word recorded in the list, but it's only on the
second position. And why does the spelling checker suggest "rec or ed ed" as
a correction anyway? Is this some form of "Globish" (Global English) I have
yet to learn?

Also:

Misspelling? communcation
Correction: co mm un cation

and:

Misspelling? seperator
Correction: se pera tor

Luckily, all is well in FrameMaker 8:

Misspelling? seperator
Correction: separator

Misspelling? communcation
Correction: communication

Misspelling? recoreded
Correction: recorded


Ki nd re gar ds



-- 
Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu


FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem

2010-08-12 Thread Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.
Good morning to my fellow Frame Templars

Here's the setup:  WXP, SP3, Frame 9.0p237 (unstructured)

Problem:

At any given time, the Paragraph Designer "quits."  It displays when called 
upon and works 
and that's all well and good but without notice suddenly becomes 
non-functioning.

This happens without warning and under any one of given scenarios:  single 
screen, multiple 
screens, you name it.

Anyone have a clue?

Thanks

>From New York and JetBlue Airways

Eduardo



FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem

2010-08-12 Thread Art Campbell
First thing I'd try is installing the patches you're missing. Current
release level is p255 

Although, having said that, mine occasionally dies too. Usually after
I toggle auto-collapse pods on or off, or run through a bunch of
changes in the designer.

I usually reboot and that clears the problem for a day or so.

Art Campbell
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com
? "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? No disclaimers apply.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? DoD 358



On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.
 wrote:
> Good morning to my fellow Frame Templars
>
> Here's the setup: ?WXP, SP3, Frame 9.0p237 (unstructured)
>
> Problem:
>
> At any given time, the Paragraph Designer "quits." ?It displays when called 
> upon and works
> and that's all well and good but without notice suddenly becomes 
> non-functioning.
>
> This happens without warning and under any one of given scenarios: ?single 
> screen, multiple
> screens, you name it.
>
> Anyone have a clue?
>
> Thanks
>
> From New York and JetBlue Airways
>
> Eduardo
>
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FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem

2010-08-12 Thread Writer
This was discussed before, but I can't find the thread. The upshot was that if 
you have the Paragraph Designer open, but you adjust the tabs on the ruler, 
rather than within the Paragraph Designer, it would cause the PD to freeze.

In addition, you might want to apply the newest patch (255) to FM9. I *think* 
this patch resolved the issue.

Nadine

--- On Thu, 8/12/10, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.  wrote:

> From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. 
> Subject: FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:53 AM
> Good morning to my fellow Frame
> Templars
> 
> Here's the setup:? WXP, SP3, Frame 9.0p237
> (unstructured)
> 
> Problem:
> 
> At any given time, the Paragraph Designer "quits."? It
> displays when called upon and works 
> and that's all well and good but without notice suddenly
> becomes non-functioning.
> 
> This happens without warning and under any one of given
> scenarios:? single screen, multiple 
> screens, you name it.
> 
> Anyone have a clue?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> From New York and JetBlue Airways
> 
> Eduardo
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FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem

2010-08-12 Thread Art Campbell
Nope; still present in 255.

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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Writer  wrote:
> This was discussed before, but I can't find the thread. The upshot was that 
> if you have the Paragraph Designer open, but you adjust the tabs on the 
> ruler, rather than within the Paragraph Designer, it would cause the PD to 
> freeze.
>
> In addition, you might want to apply the newest patch (255) to FM9. I *think* 
> this patch resolved the issue.
>
> Nadine
>
> --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.  
> wrote:
>
>> From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. 
>> Subject: FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:53 AM
>> Good morning to my fellow Frame
>> Templars
>>
>> Here's the setup:? WXP, SP3, Frame 9.0p237
>> (unstructured)
>>
>> Problem:
>>
>> At any given time, the Paragraph Designer "quits."? It
>> displays when called upon and works
>> and that's all well and good but without notice suddenly
>> becomes non-functioning.
>>
>> This happens without warning and under any one of given
>> scenarios:? single screen, multiple
>> screens, you name it.
>>
>> Anyone have a clue?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> From New York and JetBlue Airways
>>
>> Eduardo
>>
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FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem

2010-08-12 Thread Writer
Rats!

I thought it might be fixed with that patch because I tried getting the PD db 
to freeze, and it didn't. I guess it only freezes if you're doing serious work. 
=D

Nadine

--- On Thu, 8/12/10, Art Campbell  wrote:

> From: Art Campbell 
> Subject: Re: FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem
> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com, ecidade at zoominternet.net
> Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 12:59 PM
> Nope; still present in 255.
> 
> Art Campbell
>  ? ? ? ? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com
> ? "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats
> a '52
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? No disclaimers apply.
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? DoD 358
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Writer 
> wrote:
> > This was discussed before, but I can't find the
> thread. The upshot was that if you have the Paragraph
> Designer open, but you adjust the tabs on the ruler, rather
> than within the Paragraph Designer, it would cause the PD to
> freeze.
> >
> > In addition, you might want to apply the newest patch
> (255) to FM9. I *think* this patch resolved the issue.
> >
> > Nadine
> >
> > --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. 
> >> Subject: FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem
> >> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> >> Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:53 AM
> >> Good morning to my fellow Frame
> >> Templars
> >>
> >> Here's the setup:? WXP, SP3, Frame 9.0p237
> >> (unstructured)
> >>
> >> Problem:
> >>
> >> At any given time, the Paragraph Designer
> "quits."? It
> >> displays when called upon and works
> >> and that's all well and good but without notice
> suddenly
> >> becomes non-functioning.
> >>
> >> This happens without warning and under any one of
> given
> >> scenarios:? single screen, multiple
> >> screens, you name it.
> >>
> >> Anyone have a clue?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> From New York and JetBlue Airways
> >>
> >> Eduardo
> >>
> >> ___
> >>
> >>
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FM9 Crash Conditional Formats

2010-08-12 Thread Stephen O'Brien
Hi all,

I use FM9 p255 under Windows XP

On accessing the Conditional Format pod by menu 
or by clicking the pod, FM crashes...

Today, at least 3 times!

Anyone else out there have the same problem?

Thx...I am not used to this! Just hired new tech 
writer - told her FM was stable...

Stephen

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Coordonnateur ? la documentation / Documentation Coordinator
R?dacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
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Qu?bec (Qu?bec) Canada G1N 4N6

Tel.: (418) 688-2061
Fax: (418) 688-3001
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FM9 Crash Conditional Formats

2010-08-12 Thread Flato, Gillian
I had that problem on Frame 8 and the problem was turning off Network File 
locking.

Thank you,
?

Gillian Flato
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nanometrics
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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:26 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com
Subject: FM9 Crash Conditional Formats

Hi all,

I use FM9 p255 under Windows XP

On accessing the Conditional Format pod by menu 
or by clicking the pod, FM crashes...

Today, at least 3 times!

Anyone else out there have the same problem?

Thx...I am not used to this! Just hired new tech 
writer - told her FM was stable...

Stephen

Stephen O'Brien

Coordonnateur ? la documentation / Documentation Coordinator
R?dacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310
Qu?bec (Qu?bec) Canada G1N 4N6

Tel.: (418) 688-2061
Fax: (418) 688-3001
E-mail: sobrien at innovmetric.com
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FM9 Crash Conditional Formats

2010-08-12 Thread Flato, Gillian
I meant the solution was turning off Network File Locking. Doh!

Thank you,
?

Gillian Flato
Technical Writer (Software)
nanometrics
1550 Buckeye Dr. 
Milpitas, CA. 95035
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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:26 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com
Subject: FM9 Crash Conditional Formats

Hi all,

I use FM9 p255 under Windows XP

On accessing the Conditional Format pod by menu 
or by clicking the pod, FM crashes...

Today, at least 3 times!

Anyone else out there have the same problem?

Thx...I am not used to this! Just hired new tech 
writer - told her FM was stable...

Stephen

Stephen O'Brien

Coordonnateur ? la documentation / Documentation Coordinator
R?dacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310
Qu?bec (Qu?bec) Canada G1N 4N6

Tel.: (418) 688-2061
Fax: (418) 688-3001
E-mail: sobrien at innovmetric.com
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FM9 Crash Conditional Formats

2010-08-12 Thread Alison Craig
Here is an excerpt from a thread back in early July:

6/07/2010, at 11:47 PM:

> I used to have several dialog boxes combined into one strip, taking 
> advantage of FM9's new capabilities. Well, I tried separating all of 
> them into separate dialog boxes and since them I haven't had any 
> crashes. I still have the Paragraph, Character and Table Designer 
> together, and I haven't had any problem.
>
> Just thought I share this with the list.


I tried this as well although I didn't separate quite everything. I still 
crash, but it's very infrequent.

Alison

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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:26 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com
Subject: FM9 Crash Conditional Formats

Hi all,

I use FM9 p255 under Windows XP

On accessing the Conditional Format pod by menu 
or by clicking the pod, FM crashes...

Today, at least 3 times!

Anyone else out there have the same problem?

Thx...I am not used to this! Just hired new tech 
writer - told her FM was stable...

Stephen

Stephen O'Brien

Coordonnateur ? la documentation / Documentation Coordinator
R?dacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310
Qu?bec (Qu?bec) Canada G1N 4N6

Tel.: (418) 688-2061
Fax: (418) 688-3001
E-mail: sobrien at innovmetric.com
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Text High in Table Cells

2010-08-12 Thread Nancy Allison
Hi, Mike and all.

Nope, using both ascenders and descenders.

Gotta look for the "baseline synchronization" setting. I've never heard of it.



On Aug 11, 2010, Mike Wickham  wrote: 

> Problem: Text in table cells is high, not centered vertically.

Without actually trying out the settings to see if my results are the same, 
I wonder if the "base-line synchronization" setting, which can make the 
first line in a column bump up a little higher has an effect. Or is it 
possible that you are testing with character glyphs, such as numbers, that 
have no descenders. 


Text High in Table Cells

2010-08-12 Thread Mike Wickham


> Hi, Mike and all.
>
> Nope, using both ascenders and descenders.
>
> Gotta look for the "baseline synchronization" setting. I've never heard of 
> it.

Oops. I typed that wrong. It is the First-Line Synchronization Limit I was 
thinking of. It's at Format> Page Layout> Line Layout.

Mike Wickham




FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem

2010-08-12 Thread Philip Sharman
As I recall, it happens if you adjust tags on the rule *and *have the
Paragraph Designer set to showing anything other than the Basic properties.
   Philip

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Writer  wrote:

> This was discussed before, but I can't find the thread. The upshot was that
> if you have the Paragraph Designer open, but you adjust the tabs on the
> ruler, rather than within the Paragraph Designer, it would cause the PD to
> freeze.
>
>