Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source

[de Rouck, Tom (Gent)]

Hello Angela, 

I don't know which 'entry points' Word generates when creating (html) output 
from it for a heading 1 for example, but that can easily be found out by 
generating a Word doc. As an emergency solution you can then use the pass 
through option in Frame/Webworks to type a working link in Framemaker. You 
then have to leave the idea of perfect single-sourcing behind however...

Regards,
Tom

Tom De Rouck
SGS Documentation Services
Technical Writer


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   1. Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source (Writer)


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Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:38:58 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source
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Angela already asked this question on the WebWorks forum, but I suggested that 
she ask the question here, too, since it's not strictly an ePublisher question.

Forget the ePublisher side of things for now. I'd like to know if you can 
link/xref/whatever from a point INSIDE an FM file to a point INSIDE a Word 
file, and vice versa.

Nadine

--- On Fri, 2/4/11, Steve Johnson chinask...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Steve Johnson chinask...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source
 To: Angela Akridge angela.akri...@gmail.com
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 7:12 PM
 I'm copying Bell Allums from
 WebWorks. There probably is a way but I
 can't recall it.
 
 You can also post this on the WebWorks user forum, which is
 a Yahoo
 user group, search for it.
 
 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Angela Akridge angela.akri...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I know most, if not all of you, love Frame and would
 never consider using MS
  Word. I too use Frame for most of my projects.
 
  However, I have MS Word files that need to be
 maintained by other authors
  (technical support), and these same files are used in
 my online help.
 
  I basically have a hybrid help system that calls
 both Frame source and MS
  Word source. I use WebWorks. The help output looks
 great, and a customer
  can't distinguish the underlying source. However, I
 need to link
  (cross-reference/hyperlink) between these two
 sources.
 
  Is there a way to link from a Frame source (H1) to an


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RE: Registration marks missing

[White, Scott]

Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
Final output is 11x17.
My steps are:
*Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
*Turn off generate acrobat data
*Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
*Select page size
*Print

What am I missing?




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Subject: Re: Registration marks missing

Scott,

What was the final size of the PDF?  11x17 or 8.5 x 11?   Turn off the
Generate Acrobat Data--the PDF is probably being cropped.

Thanks,

Brad


On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:46 PM, White, Scott wrote:

 I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I
 didn't get any marks in the rendered PDF.
 I used save as pdf, selected registration marks western, printed to
 11x17 output just to see, and I got all I expected but the
registration
 marks.
 
 Mac OS10 running parallels  window 7 home premium. Framemaker 9.0.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Scott White
 Manager - Content and Print Media
 Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
 

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Re: Registration marks missing

[Brad Anderson]

Scott,

If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom page size 
(add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18).  You'll need the 
extra inch around the page to add the registration marks.

If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving to PDF.

Do the registration marks now show?

Thanks,

Brad


On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:

 Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
 Final output is 11x17.
 My steps are:
 *Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
 *Turn off generate acrobat data
 *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
 *Select page size
 *Print
 
 What am I missing?
 
 
 
 
 Scott White
 Manager - Content and Print Media
 Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
 
 
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 From: Brad Anderson [mailto:b...@frameusers.com] 
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 5:20 PM
 To: White, Scott
 Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Registration marks missing
 
 Scott,
 
 What was the final size of the PDF?  11x17 or 8.5 x 11?   Turn off the
 Generate Acrobat Data--the PDF is probably being cropped.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Brad
 
 
 On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:46 PM, White, Scott wrote:
 
 I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I
 didn't get any marks in the rendered PDF.
 I used save as pdf, selected registration marks western, printed to
 11x17 output just to see, and I got all I expected but the
 registration
 marks.
 
 Mac OS10 running parallels  window 7 home premium. Framemaker 9.0.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Scott White
 Manager - Content and Print Media
 Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
 
 

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Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents when converting to HTML)

[Eric Geissinger]

I get this completely irritating message 50 times every time I convert my 
document to HTML:

Cannot find a heading element for a section that is being converted to a 
sub-document. The top-level document will not contain a link to the 
sub-document. OK to continue?

I hit OK a billion times, weeping with frustration, and the result is fine.  I 
just can't hit OK that much.  I'll end up with carpel tunnel.  Plus this is 
just a small test book.  I can't hit OK 2000 times for the real book.

The reason is clear but yet unclear to me.

I am saving a structured book into HTML and told Frame via the HTML conversion 
tables in the reference pages (for the book), that I want new pages to start on 
various elements.  Fine.  I map the elements to various HTML tags.  OK. The 
thing is I don't really WANT Frame to automatically include links to the 
subdocument in the HTML.

Why?

Read on my friends...

For example, if my Frame document has a page like this:

(Frame chapter)
+++Functions follow+
These functions are really great.  Check them out.
This is a link to Function A
This is a link to Function B
This is a link to Function C
Thank for reading, enjoy your functions.
+++End of Functions


That is kinda how the start of the chapter goes.  After this overview page are 
the functions themselves on new pages, first Function A, then B, etc.

Now, since Function A is a link to the function which starts a new page (in 
the book), I don't want this link automatically reincluded when it is saved to 
HTML.  Because then I get:


(HTML OUTPUT)
+++Functions follow+
These functions are really great.  Check them out.
This is a link to Function A
This is a link to Function B
This is a link to Function C
Thank for reading, enjoy your functions.
+++End of Functions
(--- auto-inserted by HTML conversion) Link to Function A
(--- auto-inserted by HTML conversion) Link to Function B
(--- auto-inserted by HTML conversion) Link to Function C


Where the last three are the automatic links that the HTML conversion puts in 
there for me.  So now there are two full sets of links on the page both of 
which work.  Ugh.

Not wanted.  I want the HTML conversion to generate a new page without 
actually inserting a link for me, since the link is already there in the actual 
Frame document.

So what I have done is NOT map the Function start new page elements to HTML 
headings (instead to Body), which stops the HTML conversion from adding the 
link to the sub-document.

So that is why I get all them messages. 

My question:  can I suppress the messages via the Frame .ini file or something, 
or is there another, better way to do what I am trying to do which also 
suppresses these annoying messages?

Is there a way to tell the HTML conversion:  Make a new web page when you get 
to this element, but DO NOT add a link to the subdocument?

Many, many thanks.  I just can't take it anymore.

--EG




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Re: Registration marks missing

[Mike Wickham]

On 2/7/2011 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:

Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
Final output is 11x17.
My steps are:
*Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
*Turn off generate acrobat data
*Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
*Select page size
*Print

What am I missing?
Did you set your page size large enough to hold the registration marks? 
If the document is 11x17, you need to set the page size to something 
like 12x18 to provide room to show the registration marks.


Mike Wickham
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RE: Registration marks missing

[White, Scott]

My document is 8.5 x 11. I'm printing to an exaggerated page size 11 x17
to show the bleeds.
This is the way I have done it in years past.
I know its got to be something I'm doing in this new version. I've got
to be missing a step.

Scott White
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On 2/7/2011 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:
 Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
 Final output is 11x17.
 My steps are:
 *Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
 *Turn off generate acrobat data
 *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
 *Select page size
 *Print

 What am I missing?
Did you set your page size large enough to hold the registration marks? 
If the document is 11x17, you need to set the page size to something 
like 12x18 to provide room to show the registration marks.

Mike Wickham
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RE: Registration marks missing

[White, Scott]

All your suggestions do not work for save as PDF with Registration
Marks.

But, when I use the print option with Adobe PDF as my printer it works.

 

Has anyone else run Save as PDF and gotten registration marks?

 

However, I was under the impression that printing to PDF is not the
right way to create a color print-ready pdf. Colors are all off.

Second, I have access to Frame on the Mac and I'm just wondering if it
would be safer to use that knowing I will get the color and output I
expect. This is our new company's first 1,000-page catalog and want to
avoid every pitfall I can.

 

Could I do this catalog in Frame 9, save as .mif 7 and open on the old
Mac version to do my color output? A thought.

 

Again, the color frustrations raise their ugly heads with Frame.

 

For those who may have missed:

Mac OS 10.6.6 running parallels, Frame 9.0 on Windows 7 Home Premium

 

Scott White
Manager - Content and Print Media
Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752


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From: Brad Anderson [mailto:b...@frameusers.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:16 AM
To: White, Scott
Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Registration marks missing

 

Scott,

 

If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom page
size (add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18).
You'll need the extra inch around the page to add the registration
marks.

 

If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving to
PDF.

 

Do the registration marks now show?

 

Thanks,

 

Brad

 

 

On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:





Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
Final output is 11x17.
My steps are:
*Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
*Turn off generate acrobat data
*Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
*Select page size
*Print

What am I missing?




Scott White
Manager - Content and Print Media
Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752


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Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 5:20 PM
To: White, Scott
Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Registration marks missing

Scott,

What was the final size of the PDF?  11x17 or 8.5 x 11?   Turn off the
Generate Acrobat Data--the PDF is probably being cropped.

Thanks,

Brad


On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:46 PM, White, Scott wrote:




I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I

didn't get any marks in the rendered PDF.

I used save as pdf, selected registration marks western, printed
to

11x17 output just to see, and I got all I expected but the

registration



marks.

 

Mac OS10 running parallels  window 7 home premium. Framemaker
9.0.

 

Thoughts?

 

Scott White

Manager - Content and Print Media

Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752

 

 

 


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RE: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source

[Combs, Richard]

Writer wrote:
 
 Forget the ePublisher side of things for now. I'd like to know if you can
 link/xref/whatever from a point INSIDE an FM file to a point INSIDE a Word
 file, and vice versa.

Are you really wanting to link to a place inside a Word file, or are you 
wanting to link to a place inside a help file whose _source_ is Word? 

Angela was wanting to do the latter. As I pointed out, that's easily done using 
a hypertext command in FM, e.g.:

Message URL SomeHTMLPage.html#12345

In the HTML output (I'm assuming some kind of HTML-based help system here), 
this turns into something like this: 

a href=SomeHTMLPage.html#12345Link/a

In the Word source for the destination HTML page, you need to do something to 
add an anchor tag to the intended destination, e.g.: 

a name=12345Destination of Link/a

I know how to do that in FM, but not in Word -- although I'm sure there's a 
way, maybe using bookmarks.


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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RE: Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents when converting to HTML)

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Eric,

Although this won't solve your underlying problem, it will press the button
for you:

http://www.ptfbpro.com/

There is also a free version available. Please let me know if you have any
questions or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com

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Re: Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents when converting to HTML)

[Corinne Kenney]

This list is the best. This IS Abode support. The USEFUL Adobe support.

Corinne





From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com
To: Eric Geissinger egeissin...@stny.rr.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 10:35:30 AM
Subject: RE: Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents when converting to 
HTML)

Hi Eric,

Although this won't solve your underlying problem, it will press the button
for you:

http://www.ptfbpro.com/

There is also a free version available. Please let me know if you have any
questions or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com




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RE: Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents

[Chris Despopoulos]

Interesting...  Rick had an answer to the clicking the button a million times 
issue.  I frequently save Maker as HTML, and use it for a help system.  I don't 
use structured Maker, so I don't get this problem with the missing element -- 
but it DOES create the unwanted links at the bottom of the page.  My goal is to 
prepare these files so I can run them through Doxygen and get a regular-looking 
HTML Help.

Well, I made a tool in Java that preps the HTML files for me.  It does the 
following:

* Maps heading levels to topics, and inserts the necessary Doxygen markup
* Strips out the unnecessary HTML head and tail tags, because Doxygen will 
insert its own
* Changes the names of the files from the Maker-generated names (mybook-1.html, 
mybook-2.html, etc.) 

   into filenames based on the topic name.  It fixes all links from one file to 
another, as well.
*  and YES!!!  It strips out those nasty links at the end.

All these steps are rather vertical -- they're based on formatting that I have 
in my Maker templates.  So I can't just give this to you.  BUT...  It may be 
easy to extract the logic that whacks the unwanted links at the end of the 
file.  If you're interested, we can talk about this -- maybe it can turn into a 
meaningful freeware tool.  Are there enough people on this list to show an 
interest in that???

cud



  
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Re: Registration marks missing

[Alan T Litchfield]

Changing the page size will not resolve your problem since that will  
only move the marks further beyond your reach (they exist beyond the  
ArtBox that you see in the preview image of the file). It is probable  
the marks are there but that you just cannot see them.


Here is something you can try:
Open the pdf in Acrobat and select Advanced  Print Production  Crop  
Pages

With Show All Boxes selected, choose BleedBox from the drop down list
Set the Units to your preferred measure
Enter the distance you require into the Margin Controls Field (say 10mm)
Click OK.

Good Luck

Alan

On 8/02/2011, at 4:29 AM, White, Scott wrote:


All your suggestions do not work for save as PDF with Registration
Marks.

But, when I use the print option with Adobe PDF as my printer it  
works.




Has anyone else run Save as PDF and gotten registration marks?



However, I was under the impression that printing to PDF is not the
right way to create a color print-ready pdf. Colors are all off.

Second, I have access to Frame on the Mac and I'm just wondering if it
would be safer to use that knowing I will get the color and output I
expect. This is our new company's first 1,000-page catalog and want to
avoid every pitfall I can.



Could I do this catalog in Frame 9, save as .mif 7 and open on the old
Mac version to do my color output? A thought.



Again, the color frustrations raise their ugly heads with Frame.



For those who may have missed:

Mac OS 10.6.6 running parallels, Frame 9.0 on Windows 7 Home Premium



Scott White
Manager - Content and Print Media
Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752


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From: Brad Anderson [mailto:b...@frameusers.com]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:16 AM
To: White, Scott
Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Registration marks missing



Scott,



If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom page
size (add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18).
You'll need the extra inch around the page to add the registration
marks.



If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving  
to

PDF.



Do the registration marks now show?



Thanks,



Brad





On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:





Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
Final output is 11x17.
My steps are:
*Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
*Turn off generate acrobat data
*Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
*Select page size
*Print

What am I missing?




Scott White
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Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752


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-Original Message-
From: Brad Anderson [mailto:b...@frameusers.com]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 5:20 PM
To: White, Scott
Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Registration marks missing

Scott,

What was the final size of the PDF?  11x17 or 8.5 x 11?   Turn off the
Generate Acrobat Data--the PDF is probably being cropped.

Thanks,

Brad


On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:46 PM, White, Scott wrote:




I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I

didn't get any marks in the rendered PDF.

I used save as pdf, selected registration marks western, printed
to

Re: Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents when converting to HTML)

[Stuart Rogers]

On 07/02/2011 12:35 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Hi Eric,

Although this won't solve your underlying problem, it will press the button
for you:

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Just don't let it automate any writing tasks for you...  ;-)

(Keeps you appraised of it’s actions)



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RE: Registration marks missing

[Alan Litchfield]

OK. What if you print to PDF instead, and then follow those steps?

It is preferable, I think, to have FM create the marks so that they are
accurately placed as the time of creation.

At least you are headed in a better direction :)

Alan

White, Scott wrote:
 Alan
 I thought for sure your suggestion would show me the crops. Nothing.
 I was able to put the marks on the page using Acrobat. But still no luck
 natively.

 Amazing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Alan T Litchfield [mailto:a...@alphabyte.co.nz]
 Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:27 PM
 To: White, Scott
 Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Registration marks missing

 Changing the page size will not resolve your problem since that will
 only move the marks further beyond your reach (they exist beyond the
 ArtBox that you see in the preview image of the file). It is probable
 the marks are there but that you just cannot see them.

 Here is something you can try:
 Open the pdf in Acrobat and select Advanced  Print Production  Crop
 Pages
 With Show All Boxes selected, choose BleedBox from the drop down list
 Set the Units to your preferred measure
 Enter the distance you require into the Margin Controls Field (say 10mm)
 Click OK.

 Good Luck

 Alan

 On 8/02/2011, at 4:29 AM, White, Scott wrote:

 All your suggestions do not work for save as PDF with Registration
 Marks.

 But, when I use the print option with Adobe PDF as my printer it
 works.



 Has anyone else run Save as PDF and gotten registration marks?



 However, I was under the impression that printing to PDF is not the
 right way to create a color print-ready pdf. Colors are all off.

 Second, I have access to Frame on the Mac and I'm just wondering if it
 would be safer to use that knowing I will get the color and output I
 expect. This is our new company's first 1,000-page catalog and want to
 avoid every pitfall I can.



 Could I do this catalog in Frame 9, save as .mif 7 and open on the old
 Mac version to do my color output? A thought.



 Again, the color frustrations raise their ugly heads with Frame.



 For those who may have missed:

 Mac OS 10.6.6 running parallels, Frame 9.0 on Windows 7 Home Premium



 Scott White
 Manager - Content and Print Media
 Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752


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 From: Brad Anderson [mailto:b...@frameusers.com]
 Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:16 AM
 To: White, Scott
 Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Registration marks missing



 Scott,



 If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom page
 size (add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18).
 You'll need the extra inch around the page to add the registration
 marks.



 If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving
 to
 PDF.



 Do the registration marks now show?



 Thanks,



 Brad





 On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:





 Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
 Final output is 11x17.
 My steps are:
 *Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
 *Turn off generate acrobat data
 *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
 *Select page size
 *Print

 What am I missing?




 Scott White
 Manager - Content and Print Media
 Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752


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Adding fixed text to a single chapter's page numbering

[David Millis]

Frame 7.2

 

My book begins and ends with chapters that use the small roman page
numbering format. All other chapters except one use the continuing page
number format of 1, 2, 3, ... The problem I can't figure out is I'd like
to use the following page number format for my Appendix chapter: A-1,
A-2, A-3, ... I've got a left and right Appendix master page using the
format A-# and the Format  Document  Numbering  Page property is set
to First Page # = 1 and Format is set to Numeric (14). Can someone
please fill in the blanks so I can use this page number format for a
single chapter?

 

Thank you,

 

David

 

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Re: Adding fixed text to a single chapter's page numbering

[Alan Litchfield]

Hi David,

Have a read of Lester's helpful summary here:

http://www.infocon.com/files/autonum.pdf

Good Luck

Alan

David Millis wrote:
 Frame 7.2



 My book begins and ends with chapters that use the small roman page
 numbering format. All other chapters except one use the continuing page
 number format of 1, 2, 3, ... The problem I can't figure out is I'd like
 to use the following page number format for my Appendix chapter: A-1,
 A-2, A-3, ... I've got a left and right Appendix master page using the
 format A-# and the Format  Document  Numbering  Page property is set
 to First Page # = 1 and Format is set to Numeric (14). Can someone
 please fill in the blanks so I can use this page number format for a
 single chapter?



 Thank you,



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RE: Adding fixed text to a single chapter's page numbering

[Combs, Richard]

David Millis wrote:
 
 My book begins and ends with chapters that use the small roman page
 numbering format. All other chapters except one use the continuing page
 number format of 1, 2, 3, ... The problem I can't figure out is I'd like
 to use the following page number format for my Appendix chapter: A-1,
 A-2, A-3, ... I've got a left and right Appendix master page using the
 format A-# and the Format  Document  Numbering  Page property is set
 to First Page # = 1 and Format is set to Numeric (14). Can someone
 please fill in the blanks so I can use this page number format for a
 single chapter?

I know my brain is slow because it's Monday, but I fail to see what the problem 
is. What you're describing sounds correct. 

So what's not correct? What blanks do you need to have filled? 


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SV: Registration marks missing

[Jacob Schäffer]

Scott,

This is likely a PDF /CropBox understanding issue, which mean that
everything might be OK afterall. Unfortunately, the term CropBox might
bring confusion although the concept is clear.

/CropBox defines the *visible* page size in a viewer. CropBox has
effectively NOTHING to do with trimming according to crop marks - although
the name says so.

/MediaBox defines the RAW print paper size, ie. when you print a letter
size on legal or A3 paper, you'll see the cut marks and use a hand-held
knife to cut :-)

/ArtBox is of absolutely no use if you wish a reference to a fixed region
(I've NEVER understood the significant value of the ArtBox EXCEPT when
placing PDF as substitute for EPS -- in which case it's totally meaningless
to apply crop marks (because they will become art))

/TrimBox, which defines the true cutting edges in real-world production
anno 2011.

In many cases ignorant designers and quite a few software packages sets both
TrimBox and CropBox *wrong* and in some cases with reversed meaning --
adding huge to overall confusion.

Personally, I discarded the Save As PDF in Frame 9 a long time ago. I did
that when I discovered it was based on more than 10 years old PostScript
Level 1 code stolen from antediluvian Unix versions of Framemaker.

So, printing to PDF from Frame is *still* ultimately the best bet *IF* and
*ONLY* if you work with RGB bitmap art (TIFF, BMP, JPG) and avoid spot
colours like the plague.

If you use CMYK TIFF, don't go to print at all *unless* you can
*successfully* use Save As PDF *or* persuade your printer to accept
pre-separated PostScript or PDF for print. And -- in this case -- don't say
go without a final proof.

Unfortunately I can't offer a bullet-proof work-around. However, my Publi
PDF software has made quite a difference for SEVERAL Framemaker users
worldwide over the past decade, of which MANY users subscribe to this list.

I have paid enormous amounts to Flexera Software to keep an Activation
Service alive for Publi PDF, and through the past 3 years the residue from
the Publi PDF *single user* edition has been approx the price of one or two
(very, very, very good though) Italian Amarone(s). Anyway, today I'm working
on other very promising projects and really only win nothingness by keeping
the Publi PDF client licensed. Hence, Publi PDF - in the form most users
know it -- is going FREEWARE quite soon (USD 850 per license today).
 
I really think Publi PDF could help you with your catalogue, but you'll have
to experiment with it. As FREEWARE Publi PDF is *effectively* unsupported.

A good place to start is here: http://www.grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/

You'll find a LOT of information here:
http://www.grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/techdocs.htm. You MUST read this stuff
if you REALLY want to know what Publi PDF can do for you. I don't answer
questions that is already answered in the techdocs section.

The latest *official* single user edition is revision 1.50.0432. This is
available for download from: http://grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/download.htm.
This edition works with Distiller 8.X to X and GPL GhostScript 8.70 or later
(that's not true, older versions are supported, but DON'T use them). This
version may work on Vista and Windows 7 if you understand how to disable
UAC. If not, wait for version 1.9.X.

The latest *real* Publi PDF Client is revision 1.9.X. It will be published
to http://grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/download.htm as soon as I can find the
time for it. This version runs smoothly on Windows 7 (32- and 64-bit), and I
don't care anything about Vista or older Windows versions. 1.9.X might work
on Vista or XP, and if it doesn't please use revision 1.5.0432. This works
on XP. If you have Vista you ask for trouble. Get rid of it !!!

Revision 1.50.0432, which you can download as described and use for
production (for free) in 30 days, will be substituted by the FULL *free*
Publi PDF Client BEFORE the 30 days expiration period ends. So, *IF* you
install 1.5.0432 you'll need to remove it and re-install 1.9.X later.

Have fun ...

/Jacob


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] På vegne af White, Scott
Sendt: 7. februar 2011 16:29
Til: Brad Anderson
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Emne: RE: Registration marks missing

All your suggestions do not work for save as PDF with Registration
Marks.

But, when I use the print option with Adobe PDF as my printer it works.

 

Has anyone else run Save as PDF and gotten registration marks?

 

However, I was under the impression that printing to PDF is not the
right way to create a color print-ready pdf. Colors are all off.

Second, I have access to Frame on the Mac and I'm just wondering if it
would be safer to use that knowing I will get the color and output I
expect. This is our new company's first 1,000-page catalog and want to
avoid every pitfall I can.

 

Could I do this catalog in Frame 9, save as .mif 7 and open on the old
Mac version to do my 

Re: Registration marks missing

[Brad Anderson]

Scott,

I think the Save as PDF command automatically invokes a crop which is causing 
the reg marks to disappear.   Printing to PS using the Adobe PDF printer should 
be fine.

I would handle the color in this order of preference:

1) Open the Frame files (assuming no new functions in 9 are used) in Frame 7 on 
the Mac and output to a correctly output CMYK PDF.

2) If your printer will support it, create PostScript/PDF files where you do 
your own separations from FrameMaker.   FrameMaker will correctly separate the 
files and color integrity is maintained with the separations.   I've done 
several 300+ page 5 color books this way on with Windows side with much 
success.   The problem is finding a printer with a capable pre-press person 
that can handle the pre-separated files.

3) Output the PDF from the Windows side and post-process the colors.

Thanks,

Brad



On Feb 7, 2011, at 9:29 AM, White, Scott wrote:

 All your suggestions do not work for save as PDF with Registration Marks.
 But, when I use the print option with Adobe PDF as my printer it works.
  
 Has anyone else run Save as PDF and gotten registration marks?
  
 However, I was under the impression that printing to PDF is not the right way 
 to create a color “print-ready” pdf. Colors are all off.
 Second, I have access to Frame on the Mac and I’m just wondering if it would 
 be safer to use that knowing I will get the color and output I expect. This 
 is our new company’s first 1,000-page catalog and want to avoid every pitfall 
 I can.
  
 Could I do this catalog in Frame 9, save as .mif 7 and open on the old Mac 
 version to do my color output? A thought.
  
 Again, the color frustrations raise their ugly heads with Frame.
  
 For those who may have missed:
 Mac OS 10.6.6 running parallels, Frame 9.0 on Windows 7 Home Premium
  
 Scott White
 Manager - Content and Print Media
 Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
 
 
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 From: Brad Anderson [mailto:b...@frameusers.com] 
 Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:16 AM
 To: White, Scott
 Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Registration marks missing
  
 Scott,
  
 If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom page size 
 (add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18).  You'll need 
 the extra inch around the page to add the registration marks.
  
 If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving to PDF.
  
 Do the registration marks now show?
  
 Thanks,
  
 Brad
  
  
 On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:
 
 
 Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
 Final output is 11x17.
 My steps are:
 *Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
 *Turn off generate acrobat data
 *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
 *Select page size
 *Print
 
 What am I missing?
 
 
 
 
 Scott White
 Manager - Content and Print Media
 Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Anderson [mailto:b...@frameusers.com] 
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 5:20 PM
 To: White, Scott
 Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Registration marks missing
 
 Scott,
 
 What was the final size of the PDF?  11x17 or 

RE: Adding fixed text to a single chapter's page numbering

[Combs, Richard]

David Millis wrote:
 
 I actually have figured out the Appendix page numbering that I wanted
 but now I'm stumped trying to get the TOC to reflect that same numbering
 format for the Appendix.

Keeping the conversation on the list allows others to benefit from it -- or to 
correct me if I tell you something stupid. :-) 

I see now what I missed before. You're hard-coding the A into the master 
pages instead of using the chapter number ($chapnum) variable. 

A better approach would be to put $chapnum-# in the footers. In Numbering 
Properties (via the book window, not in the file), set Chapter # for the 
appendix either to 1 and ALPHABETIC (N) or to A and Text. 

To make the TOC work, first of all, you need to be using a different paragraph 
format for the appendix title than for the chapter titles. Let's say it's 
called AppendixTitle. That's so that the generated TOC uses a different 
paragraph format for that entry, in this case AppendixTitleTOC. 

Then, in the reference page TOC flow, you just need to add the chapter number 
variable to the AppendixTitleTOC entry where appropriate. For instance, it 
might look like this (\t is a tab): 

$chapnum \t $paratext \t\t\t$chapnum-$pagenum 

In the generated TOC, that would look something like this: 

A   Title text of appendix ..A-1

Of course, you can omit the $chapnum before the title, precede it with 
Appendix, or whatever. 

HTH! 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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RE: Registration marks missing

[White, Scott]

Print to PDF does put the marks on the pages. But from what I understand
that is not the right way to get the best cmyk output for print.

-Original Message-
From: Alan Litchfield [mailto:a...@alphabyte.co.nz] 
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 4:00 PM
To: White, Scott
Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Registration marks missing

OK. What if you print to PDF instead, and then follow those steps?

It is preferable, I think, to have FM create the marks so that they are
accurately placed as the time of creation.

At least you are headed in a better direction :)

Alan

White, Scott wrote:
 Alan
 I thought for sure your suggestion would show me the crops. Nothing.
 I was able to put the marks on the page using Acrobat. But still no
luck
 natively.

 Amazing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Alan T Litchfield [mailto:a...@alphabyte.co.nz]
 Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:27 PM
 To: White, Scott
 Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Registration marks missing

 Changing the page size will not resolve your problem since that will
 only move the marks further beyond your reach (they exist beyond the
 ArtBox that you see in the preview image of the file). It is probable
 the marks are there but that you just cannot see them.

 Here is something you can try:
 Open the pdf in Acrobat and select Advanced  Print Production  Crop
 Pages
 With Show All Boxes selected, choose BleedBox from the drop down list
 Set the Units to your preferred measure
 Enter the distance you require into the Margin Controls Field (say
10mm)
 Click OK.

 Good Luck

 Alan

 On 8/02/2011, at 4:29 AM, White, Scott wrote:

 All your suggestions do not work for save as PDF with Registration
 Marks.

 But, when I use the print option with Adobe PDF as my printer it
 works.



 Has anyone else run Save as PDF and gotten registration marks?



 However, I was under the impression that printing to PDF is not the
 right way to create a color print-ready pdf. Colors are all off.

 Second, I have access to Frame on the Mac and I'm just wondering if
it
 would be safer to use that knowing I will get the color and output I
 expect. This is our new company's first 1,000-page catalog and want
to
 avoid every pitfall I can.



 Could I do this catalog in Frame 9, save as .mif 7 and open on the
old
 Mac version to do my color output? A thought.



 Again, the color frustrations raise their ugly heads with Frame.



 For those who may have missed:

 Mac OS 10.6.6 running parallels, Frame 9.0 on Windows 7 Home Premium



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 From: Brad Anderson [mailto:b...@frameusers.com]
 Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:16 AM
 To: White, Scott
 Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Registration marks missing



 Scott,



 If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom
page
 size (add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18).
 You'll need the extra inch around the page to add the registration
 marks.



 If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving
 to
 PDF.



 Do the registration marks now show?



 Thanks,



 Brad





 On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:





 Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
 Final output is 11x17.
 My steps are:
 *Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
 *Turn off generate acrobat data
 *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
 *Select page size
 *Print

 What am I missing?




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Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source

[de Rouck, Tom (Gent)]

Hello Angela, 

I don't know which 'entry points' Word generates when creating (html) output 
from it for a heading 1 for example, but that can easily be found out by 
generating a Word doc. As an emergency solution you can then use the "pass 
through" option in Frame/Webworks to type a working link in Framemaker. You 
then have to leave the idea of perfect single-sourcing behind however...

Regards,
Tom

Tom De Rouck
SGS Documentation Services
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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source
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Angela already asked this question on the WebWorks forum, but I suggested that 
she ask the question here, too, since it's not strictly an ePublisher question.

Forget the ePublisher side of things for now. I'd like to know if you can 
link/xref/whatever from a point INSIDE an FM file to a point INSIDE a Word 
file, and vice versa.

Nadine

--- On Fri, 2/4/11, Steve Johnson  wrote:

> From: Steve Johnson 
> Subject: Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source
> To: "Angela Akridge" 
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 7:12 PM
> I'm copying Bell Allums from
> WebWorks. There probably is a way but I
> can't recall it.
> 
> You can also post this on the WebWorks user forum, which is
> a Yahoo
> user group, search for it.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Angela Akridge 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I know most, if not all of you, love Frame and would
> never consider using MS
> > Word. I too use Frame for most of my projects.
> >
> > However, I have MS Word files that need to be
> maintained by other authors
> > (technical support), and these same files are used in
> my online help.
> >
> > I basically have a "hybrid" help system that calls
> both Frame source and MS
> > Word source. I use WebWorks. The help output looks
> great, and a customer
> > can't distinguish the underlying source. However, I
> need to link
> > (cross-reference/hyperlink) between these two
> sources.
> >
> > Is there a way to link from a Frame source (H1) to an


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Registration marks missing

[White, Scott]

Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
Final output is 11x17.
My steps are:
*Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
*Turn off generate acrobat data
*Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
*Select page size
*Print

What am I missing?




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Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752


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Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 5:20 PM
To: White, Scott
Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Registration marks missing

Scott,

What was the final size of the PDF?  11x17 or 8.5 x 11?   Turn off the
Generate Acrobat Data--the PDF is probably being cropped.

Thanks,

Brad


On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:46 PM, White, Scott wrote:

> I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I
> didn't get any marks in the rendered PDF.
> I used save as pdf, selected registration marks western, printed to
> 11x17 output just to see, and I got all I expected but the
registration
> marks.
> 
> Mac OS10 running parallels > window 7 home premium. Framemaker 9.0.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Scott White
> Manager - Content and Print Media
> Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
> 

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Registration marks missing

[Brad Anderson]

Scott,

If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom page size 
(add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18).  You'll need the 
extra inch around the page to add the registration marks.

If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving to PDF.

Do the registration marks now show?

Thanks,

Brad


On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:

> Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
> Final output is 11x17.
> My steps are:
> *Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
> *Turn off generate acrobat data
> *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
> *Select page size
> *Print
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Scott White
> Manager - Content and Print Media
> Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
> 
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Brad Anderson [mailto:brad at frameusers.com] 
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 5:20 PM
> To: White, Scott
> Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Registration marks missing
> 
> Scott,
> 
> What was the final size of the PDF?  11x17 or 8.5 x 11?   Turn off the
> Generate Acrobat Data--the PDF is probably being cropped.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brad
> 
> 
> On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:46 PM, White, Scott wrote:
> 
>> I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I
>> didn't get any marks in the rendered PDF.
>> I used save as pdf, selected registration marks western, printed to
>> 11x17 output just to see, and I got all I expected but the
> registration
>> marks.
>> 
>> Mac OS10 running parallels > window 7 home premium. Framemaker 9.0.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> Scott White
>> Manager - Content and Print Media
>> Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
>> 
> 

Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents when converting to HTML)

[Eric Geissinger]

I get this completely irritating message 50 times every time I convert my 
document to HTML:

"Cannot find a heading element for a section that is being converted to a 
sub-document. The top-level document will not contain a link to the 
sub-document. OK to continue?"

I hit OK a billion times, weeping with frustration, and the result is fine.  I 
just can't hit OK that much.  I'll end up with carpel tunnel.  Plus this is 
just a small test book.  I can't hit OK 2000 times for the real book.

The reason is clear but yet unclear to me.

I am saving a structured book into HTML and told Frame via the HTML conversion 
tables in the reference pages (for the book), that I want new pages to start on 
various elements.  Fine.  I map the elements to various HTML tags.  OK. The 
thing is I don't really WANT Frame to automatically include links to the 
subdocument in the HTML.

Why?

Read on my friends...

For example, if my Frame document has a page like this:

(Frame chapter)
+++Functions follow+
These functions are really great.  Check them out.
This is a link to Function A
This is a link to Function B
This is a link to Function C
Thank for reading, enjoy your functions.
+++End of Functions


That is kinda how the start of the chapter goes.  After this overview page are 
the functions themselves on new pages, first Function A, then B, etc.

Now, since "Function A" is a link to the function which starts a new page (in 
the book), I don't want this link automatically reincluded when it is saved to 
HTML.  Because then I get:


(HTML OUTPUT)
+++Functions follow+
These functions are really great.  Check them out.
This is a link to Function A
This is a link to Function B
This is a link to Function C
Thank for reading, enjoy your functions.
+++End of Functions
(---> auto-inserted by HTML conversion) Link to Function A
(---> auto-inserted by HTML conversion) Link to Function B
(---> auto-inserted by HTML conversion) Link to Function C


Where the last three are the "automatic" links that the HTML conversion puts in 
there for me.  So now there are two full sets of links on the page both of 
which work.  Ugh.

Not wanted.  I want the HTML conversion to "generate" a new page without 
actually inserting a link for me, since the link is already there in the actual 
Frame document.

So what I have done is NOT map the Function "start new page" elements to HTML 
headings (instead to Body), which stops the HTML conversion from adding the 
link to the sub-document.

So that is why I get all them messages. 

My question:  can I suppress the messages via the Frame .ini file or something, 
or is there another, better way to do what I am trying to do which also 
suppresses these annoying messages?

Is there a way to tell the HTML conversion:  "Make a new web page when you get 
to this element, but DO NOT add a link to the subdocument?"

Many, many thanks.  I just can't take it anymore.

--EG




Eric Geissinger

Registration marks missing

[Mike Wickham]

On 2/7/2011 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:
> Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
> Final output is 11x17.
> My steps are:
> *Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
> *Turn off generate acrobat data
> *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
> *Select page size
> *Print
>
> What am I missing?
Did you set your page size large enough to hold the registration marks? 
If the document is 11x17, you need to set the page size to something 
like 12x18 to provide room to show the registration marks.

Mike Wickham

Registration marks missing

[White, Scott]

My document is 8.5 x 11. I'm printing to an exaggerated page size 11 x17
to show the bleeds.
This is the way I have done it in years past.
I know its got to be something I'm doing in this new version. I've got
to be missing a step.

Scott White
Manager - Content and Print Media
Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752


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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:06 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Registration marks missing

On 2/7/2011 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:
> Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
> Final output is 11x17.
> My steps are:
> *Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
> *Turn off generate acrobat data
> *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
> *Select page size
> *Print
>
> What am I missing?
Did you set your page size large enough to hold the registration marks? 
If the document is 11x17, you need to set the page size to something 
like 12x18 to provide room to show the registration marks.

Mike Wickham
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Registration marks missing

[White, Scott]

All your suggestions do not work for save as PDF with Registration
Marks.

But, when I use the print option with Adobe PDF as my printer it works.



Has anyone else run Save as PDF and gotten registration marks?



However, I was under the impression that printing to PDF is not the
right way to create a color "print-ready" pdf. Colors are all off.

Second, I have access to Frame on the Mac and I'm just wondering if it
would be safer to use that knowing I will get the color and output I
expect. This is our new company's first 1,000-page catalog and want to
avoid every pitfall I can.



Could I do this catalog in Frame 9, save as .mif 7 and open on the old
Mac version to do my color output? A thought.



Again, the color frustrations raise their ugly heads with Frame.



For those who may have missed:

Mac OS 10.6.6 running parallels, Frame 9.0 on Windows 7 Home Premium



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From: Brad Anderson [mailto:b...@frameusers.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:16 AM
To: White, Scott
Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Registration marks missing



Scott,



If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom page
size (add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18).
You'll need the extra inch around the page to add the registration
marks.



If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving to
PDF.



Do the registration marks now show?



Thanks,



Brad





On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:





Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
Final output is 11x17.
My steps are:
*Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
*Turn off generate acrobat data
*Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
*Select page size
*Print

What am I missing?




Scott White
Manager - Content and Print Media
Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752


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Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 5:20 PM
To: White, Scott
Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Registration marks missing

Scott,

What was the final size of the PDF?  11x17 or 8.5 x 11?   Turn off the
Generate Acrobat Data--the PDF is probably being cropped.

Thanks,

Brad


On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:46 PM, White, Scott wrote:




I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I

didn't get any marks in the rendered PDF.

I used save as pdf, selected registration marks western, printed
to

11x17 output just to see, and I got all I expected but the

registration



marks.



Mac OS10 running parallels > window 7 home premium. Framemaker
9.0.



Thoughts?



Scott White

Manager - Content and Print Media

Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752








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Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source

[Combs, Richard]

Writer wrote:

> Forget the ePublisher side of things for now. I'd like to know if you can
> link/xref/whatever from a point INSIDE an FM file to a point INSIDE a Word
> file, and vice versa.

Are you really wanting to link to a place inside a Word file, or are you 
wanting to link to a place inside a help file whose _source_ is Word? 

Angela was wanting to do the latter. As I pointed out, that's easily done using 
a hypertext command in FM, e.g.:

Message URL SomeHTMLPage.html#12345

In the HTML output (I'm assuming some kind of HTML-based help system here), 
this turns into something like this: 

Link

In the Word source for the destination HTML page, you need to do something to 
add an anchor tag to the intended destination, e.g.: 

Destination of Link

I know how to do that in FM, but not in Word -- although I'm sure there's a 
way, maybe using bookmarks.


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Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents when converting to HTML)

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Eric,

Although this won't solve your underlying problem, it will press the button
for you:

http://www.ptfbpro.com/

There is also a free version available. Please let me know if you have any
questions or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com

Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents when converting to HTML)

[Corinne Kenney]

This list is the best. This IS Abode support. The USEFUL Adobe support.

Corinne





From: Rick Quatro 
To: Eric Geissinger ; framers at 
lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 10:35:30 AM
Subject: RE: Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents when converting to 
HTML)

Hi Eric,

Although this won't solve your underlying problem, it will press the button
for you:

http://www.ptfbpro.com/

There is also a free version available. Please let me know if you have any
questions or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com




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Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents

[Chris Despopoulos]

Interesting...  Rick had an answer to the clicking the button a million times 
issue.  I frequently save Maker as HTML, and use it for a help system.  I don't 
use structured Maker, so I don't get this problem with the missing element -- 
but it DOES create the unwanted links at the bottom of the page.  My goal is to 
prepare these files so I can run them through Doxygen and get a regular-looking 
HTML Help.

Well, I made a tool in Java that preps the HTML files for me.  It does the 
following:

* Maps heading levels to "topics", and inserts the necessary Doxygen markup
* Strips out the unnecessary HTML head and tail tags, because Doxygen will 
insert its own
* Changes the names of the files from the Maker-generated names (mybook-1.html, 
mybook-2.html, etc.) 

   into filenames based on the topic name.  It fixes all links from one file to 
another, as well.
*  and YES!!!  It strips out those nasty links at the end.

All these steps are rather vertical -- they're based on formatting that I have 
in my Maker templates.  So I can't just give this to you.  BUT...  It may be 
easy to extract the logic that whacks the unwanted links at the end of the 
file.  If you're interested, we can talk about this -- maybe it can turn into a 
meaningful freeware tool.  Are there enough people on this list to show an 
interest in that???

cud

Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents when converting to HTML)

[Stuart Rogers]

On 07/02/2011 12:35 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> Although this won't solve your underlying problem, it will press the button
> for you:
>
> http://www.ptfbpro.com/
>

Just don't let it automate any writing tasks for you...  ;-)

("Keeps you appraised of it?s actions")



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Adding fixed text to a single chapter's page numbering

[David Millis]

Frame 7.2



My book begins and ends with chapters that use the small roman page
numbering format. All other chapters except one use the continuing page
number format of 1, 2, 3, ... The problem I can't figure out is I'd like
to use the following page number format for my Appendix chapter: A-1,
A-2, A-3, ... I've got a left and right Appendix master page using the
format A-# and the Format > Document > Numbering > Page property is set
to First Page # = 1 and Format is set to Numeric (14). Can someone
please fill in the blanks so I can use this page number format for a
single chapter?



Thank you,



David

Adding fixed text to a single chapter's page numbering

[Combs, Richard]

David Millis wrote:

> My book begins and ends with chapters that use the small roman page
> numbering format. All other chapters except one use the continuing page
> number format of 1, 2, 3, ... The problem I can't figure out is I'd like
> to use the following page number format for my Appendix chapter: A-1,
> A-2, A-3, ... I've got a left and right Appendix master page using the
> format A-# and the Format > Document > Numbering > Page property is set
> to First Page # = 1 and Format is set to Numeric (14). Can someone
> please fill in the blanks so I can use this page number format for a
> single chapter?

I know my brain is slow because it's Monday, but I fail to see what the problem 
is. What you're describing sounds correct. 

So what's not correct? What "blanks" do you need to have filled? 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--

SV: Registration marks missing

[Jacob Schäffer]

Scott,

This is likely a PDF /CropBox "understanding" issue, which mean that
everything might be OK afterall. Unfortunately, the term "CropBox" might
bring confusion although the concept is clear.

/CropBox defines the *visible* page size in a viewer. CropBox has
effectively NOTHING to do with "trimming" according to crop marks - although
the name says so.

/MediaBox defines the RAW "print" paper size, ie. when you print a "letter"
size on "legal" or "A3" paper, you'll see the cut marks and use a hand-held
knife to "cut" :-)

/ArtBox is of absolutely no use if you wish a reference to a fixed region
(I've NEVER understood the significant value of the ArtBox EXCEPT when
placing PDF as substitute for EPS -- in which case it's totally meaningless
to apply crop marks (because they will become "art"))

/TrimBox, which defines the true "cutting" edges in real-world production
anno 2011.

In many cases ignorant designers and quite a few software packages sets both
TrimBox and CropBox *wrong* and in some cases with reversed meaning --
adding huge to overall confusion.

Personally, I discarded the "Save As PDF" in Frame 9 a long time ago. I did
that when I discovered it was based on more than 10 years old PostScript
Level 1 code stolen from antediluvian Unix versions of Framemaker.

So, printing to PDF from Frame is *still* ultimately the best bet *IF* and
*ONLY* if you work with RGB bitmap art (TIFF, BMP, JPG) and avoid spot
colours like the plague.

If you use CMYK TIFF, don't go to print at all *unless* you can
*successfully* use "Save As PDF" *or* persuade your printer to accept
pre-separated PostScript or PDF for print. And -- in this case -- don't say
"go" without a final proof.

Unfortunately I can't offer a bullet-proof work-around. However, my Publi
PDF software has made quite a difference for SEVERAL Framemaker users
worldwide over the past decade, of which MANY users subscribe to this list.

I have paid enormous amounts to Flexera Software to keep an Activation
Service alive for Publi PDF, and through the past 3 years the residue from
the Publi PDF *single user* edition has been approx the price of one or two
(very, very, very good though) Italian Amarone(s). Anyway, today I'm working
on other very promising projects and really only win nothingness by keeping
the Publi PDF "client" licensed. Hence, Publi PDF - in the form most users
know it -- is going FREEWARE quite soon (USD 850 per license today).

I really think Publi PDF could help you with your catalogue, but you'll have
to experiment with it. As FREEWARE Publi PDF is *effectively* unsupported.

A good place to start is here: http://www.grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/

You'll find a LOT of information here:
http://www.grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/techdocs.htm. You MUST read this stuff
if you REALLY want to know what Publi PDF can do for you. I don't answer
questions that is already answered in the "techdocs" section.

The latest *official* single user edition is revision 1.50.0432. This is
available for download from: http://grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/download.htm.
This edition works with Distiller 8.X to X and GPL GhostScript 8.70 or later
(that's not true, older versions are supported, but DON'T use them). This
version may work on Vista and Windows 7 if you understand how to disable
UAC. If not, wait for version 1.9.X.

The latest *real* Publi PDF Client is revision 1.9.X. It will be published
to http://grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/download.htm as soon as I can find the
time for it. This version runs smoothly on Windows 7 (32- and 64-bit), and I
don't care anything about Vista or older Windows versions. 1.9.X might work
on Vista or XP, and if it doesn't please use revision 1.5.0432. This works
on XP. If you have Vista you ask for trouble. Get rid of it !!!

Revision 1.50.0432, which you can download as described and use for
production (for free) in 30 days, will be substituted by the FULL *free*
"Publi PDF Client" BEFORE the 30 days expiration period ends. So, *IF* you
install 1.5.0432 you'll need to remove it and re-install 1.9.X later.

Have fun ...

/Jacob


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] P? vegne af White, Scott
Sendt: 7. februar 2011 16:29
Til: Brad Anderson
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Emne: RE: Registration marks missing

All your suggestions do not work for save as PDF with Registration
Marks.

But, when I use the print option with Adobe PDF as my printer it works.



Has anyone else run Save as PDF and gotten registration marks?



However, I was under the impression that printing to PDF is not the
right way to create a color "print-ready" pdf. Colors are all off.

Second, I have access to Frame on the Mac and I'm just wondering if it
would be safer to use that knowing I will get the color and output I
expect. This is our new company's first 1,000-page catalog and want to
avoid every pitfall I can.



Could I do this catalog in Frame 9, save as .mif 7 

Registration marks missing

[Brad Anderson]

Scott,

I think the Save as PDF command automatically invokes a crop which is causing 
the reg marks to disappear.   Printing to PS using the Adobe PDF printer should 
be fine.

I would handle the color in this order of preference:

1) Open the Frame files (assuming no new functions in 9 are used) in Frame 7 on 
the Mac and output to a correctly output CMYK PDF.

2) If your printer will support it, create PostScript/PDF files where you do 
your own separations from FrameMaker.   FrameMaker will correctly separate the 
files and color integrity is maintained with the separations.   I've done 
several 300+ page 5 color books this way on with Windows side with much 
success.   The problem is finding a printer with a capable pre-press person 
that can handle the pre-separated files.

3) Output the PDF from the Windows side and post-process the colors.

Thanks,

Brad



On Feb 7, 2011, at 9:29 AM, White, Scott wrote:

> All your suggestions do not work for save as PDF with Registration Marks.
> But, when I use the print option with Adobe PDF as my printer it works.
>  
> Has anyone else run Save as PDF and gotten registration marks?
>  
> However, I was under the impression that printing to PDF is not the right way 
> to create a color ?print-ready? pdf. Colors are all off.
> Second, I have access to Frame on the Mac and I?m just wondering if it would 
> be safer to use that knowing I will get the color and output I expect. This 
> is our new company?s first 1,000-page catalog and want to avoid every pitfall 
> I can.
>  
> Could I do this catalog in Frame 9, save as .mif 7 and open on the old Mac 
> version to do my color output? A thought.
>  
> Again, the color frustrations raise their ugly heads with Frame.
>  
> For those who may have missed:
> Mac OS 10.6.6 running parallels, Frame 9.0 on Windows 7 Home Premium
>  
> Scott White
> Manager - Content and Print Media
> Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
> 
> 
> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use
> of the intended recipient and may contain information that is
> privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the
> intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended
> recipient, you are hereby notified that distribution, disclosure,
> printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action
> in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of
> this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall
> not compromise or waive such confidentiality.  If you have received
> this communication in error, notify the sender immediately by
> return email and delete the message and any attachments from
> your system. Messages sent to or from this contact will be
> recorded and are subject to archival, monitoring, and/or disclosure
> to someone other than the recipient.
> 
> From: Brad Anderson [mailto:brad at frameusers.com] 
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:16 AM
> To: White, Scott
> Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Registration marks missing
>  
> Scott,
>  
> If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom page size 
> (add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18).  You'll need 
> the extra inch around the page to add the registration marks.
>  
> If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving to PDF.
>  
> Do the registration marks now show?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Brad
>  
>  
> On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:
> 
> 
> Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
> Final output is 11x17.
> My steps are:
> *Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
> *Turn off generate acrobat data
> *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
> *Select page size
> *Print
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Scott White
> Manager - Content and Print Media
> Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
> 
> 
> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use
> of the intended recipient and may contain information that is
> privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the
> intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended
> recipient, you are hereby notified that distribution, disclosure,
> printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action
> in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of
> this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall
> not compromise or waive such confidentiality.  If you have received
> this communication in error, notify the sender immediately by
> return email and delete the message and any attachments from
> your system. Messages sent to or from this contact will be
> recorded and are subject to archival, monitoring, and/or disclosure
> to someone other than the recipient.
> -Original Message-
> From: Brad Anderson [mailto:brad at frameusers.com] 
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 5:20 PM
> To: White, Scott
> Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at 

Adding fixed text to a single chapter's page numbering

[Combs, Richard]

David Millis wrote:

> I actually have figured out the Appendix page numbering that I wanted
> but now I'm stumped trying to get the TOC to reflect that same numbering
> format for the Appendix.

Keeping the conversation on the list allows others to benefit from it -- or to 
correct me if I tell you something stupid. :-) 

I see now what I missed before. You're hard-coding the "A" into the master 
pages instead of using the chapter number (<$chapnum>) variable. 

A better approach would be to put "<$chapnum-#>" in the footers. In Numbering 
Properties (via the book window, not in the file), set Chapter # for the 
appendix either to 1 and ALPHABETIC (N) or to A and Text. 

To make the TOC work, first of all, you need to be using a different paragraph 
format for the appendix title than for the chapter titles. Let's say it's 
called AppendixTitle. That's so that the generated TOC uses a different 
paragraph format for that entry, in this case AppendixTitleTOC. 

Then, in the reference page TOC flow, you just need to add the chapter number 
variable to the AppendixTitleTOC entry where appropriate. For instance, it 
might look like this (\t is a tab): 

<$chapnum> \t <$paratext> \t\t\t<$chapnum>-<$pagenum> 

In the generated TOC, that would look something like this: 

A   Title text of appendix ..A-1

Of course, you can omit the <$chapnum> before the title, precede it with 
"Appendix," or whatever. 

HTH! 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--

Registration marks missing

[White, Scott]

Print to PDF does put the marks on the pages. But from what I understand
that is not the right way to get the best cmyk output for print.

-Original Message-
From: Alan Litchfield [mailto:a...@alphabyte.co.nz] 
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 4:00 PM
To: White, Scott
Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Registration marks missing

OK. What if you print to PDF instead, and then follow those steps?

It is preferable, I think, to have FM create the marks so that they are
accurately placed as the time of creation.

At least you are headed in a better direction :)

Alan

White, Scott wrote:
> Alan
> I thought for sure your suggestion would show me the crops. Nothing.
> I was able to put the marks on the page using Acrobat. But still no
luck
> natively.
>
> Amazing.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan T Litchfield [mailto:alan at alphabyte.co.nz]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:27 PM
> To: White, Scott
> Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Registration marks missing
>
> Changing the page size will not resolve your problem since that will
> only move the marks further beyond your reach (they exist beyond the
> ArtBox that you see in the preview image of the file). It is probable
> the marks are there but that you just cannot see them.
>
> Here is something you can try:
> Open the pdf in Acrobat and select Advanced > Print Production > Crop
> Pages
> With Show All Boxes selected, choose BleedBox from the drop down list
> Set the Units to your preferred measure
> Enter the distance you require into the Margin Controls Field (say
10mm)
> Click OK.
>
> Good Luck
>
> Alan
>
> On 8/02/2011, at 4:29 AM, White, Scott wrote:
>
>> All your suggestions do not work for save as PDF with Registration
>> Marks.
>>
>> But, when I use the print option with Adobe PDF as my printer it
>> works.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone else run Save as PDF and gotten registration marks?
>>
>>
>>
>> However, I was under the impression that printing to PDF is not the
>> right way to create a color "print-ready" pdf. Colors are all off.
>>
>> Second, I have access to Frame on the Mac and I'm just wondering if
it
>> would be safer to use that knowing I will get the color and output I
>> expect. This is our new company's first 1,000-page catalog and want
to
>> avoid every pitfall I can.
>>
>>
>>
>> Could I do this catalog in Frame 9, save as .mif 7 and open on the
old
>> Mac version to do my color output? A thought.
>>
>>
>>
>> Again, the color frustrations raise their ugly heads with Frame.
>>
>>
>>
>> For those who may have missed:
>>
>> Mac OS 10.6.6 running parallels, Frame 9.0 on Windows 7 Home Premium
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott White
>> Manager - Content and Print Media
>> Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
>>
>>
>> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use
>> of the intended recipient and may contain information that is
>> privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the
>> intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended
>> recipient, you are hereby notified that distribution, disclosure,
>> printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action
>> in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery
of
>> this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall
>> not compromise or waive such confidentiality.  If you have received
>> this communication in error, notify the sender immediately by
>> return email and delete the message and any attachments from
>> your system. Messages sent to or from this contact will be
>> recorded and are subject to archival, monitoring, and/or disclosure
>> to someone other than the recipient.
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: Brad Anderson [mailto:brad at frameusers.com]
>> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:16 AM
>> To: White, Scott
>> Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Registration marks missing
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott,
>>
>>
>>
>> If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom
page
>> size (add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18).
>> You'll need the extra inch around the page to add the registration
>> marks.
>>
>>
>>
>> If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving
>> to
>> PDF.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do the registration marks now show?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
>> Final output is 11x17.
>> My steps are:
>> *Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
>> *Turn off generate acrobat data
>> *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
>> *Select page size
>> *Print
>>
>> What am I missing?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott White
>> Manager - Content and Print Media
>> Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
>>
>>
>> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use
>> of the intended recipient and may contain information 

Registration marks missing

[White, Scott]

Alan
I thought for sure your suggestion would show me the crops. Nothing.
I was able to put the marks on the page using Acrobat. But still no luck
natively.

Amazing.

-Original Message-
From: Alan T Litchfield [mailto:a...@alphabyte.co.nz] 
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:27 PM
To: White, Scott
Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Registration marks missing

Changing the page size will not resolve your problem since that will  
only move the marks further beyond your reach (they exist beyond the  
ArtBox that you see in the preview image of the file). It is probable  
the marks are there but that you just cannot see them.

Here is something you can try:
Open the pdf in Acrobat and select Advanced > Print Production > Crop  
Pages
With Show All Boxes selected, choose BleedBox from the drop down list
Set the Units to your preferred measure
Enter the distance you require into the Margin Controls Field (say 10mm)
Click OK.

Good Luck

Alan

On 8/02/2011, at 4:29 AM, White, Scott wrote:

> All your suggestions do not work for save as PDF with Registration
> Marks.
>
> But, when I use the print option with Adobe PDF as my printer it  
> works.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else run Save as PDF and gotten registration marks?
>
>
>
> However, I was under the impression that printing to PDF is not the
> right way to create a color "print-ready" pdf. Colors are all off.
>
> Second, I have access to Frame on the Mac and I'm just wondering if it
> would be safer to use that knowing I will get the color and output I
> expect. This is our new company's first 1,000-page catalog and want to
> avoid every pitfall I can.
>
>
>
> Could I do this catalog in Frame 9, save as .mif 7 and open on the old
> Mac version to do my color output? A thought.
>
>
>
> Again, the color frustrations raise their ugly heads with Frame.
>
>
>
> For those who may have missed:
>
> Mac OS 10.6.6 running parallels, Frame 9.0 on Windows 7 Home Premium
>
>
>
> Scott White
> Manager - Content and Print Media
> Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
>
>
> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use
> of the intended recipient and may contain information that is
> privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the
> intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended
> recipient, you are hereby notified that distribution, disclosure,
> printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action
> in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of
> this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall
> not compromise or waive such confidentiality.  If you have received
> this communication in error, notify the sender immediately by
> return email and delete the message and any attachments from
> your system. Messages sent to or from this contact will be
> recorded and are subject to archival, monitoring, and/or disclosure
> to someone other than the recipient.
>
> 
>
> From: Brad Anderson [mailto:brad at frameusers.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:16 AM
> To: White, Scott
> Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Registration marks missing
>
>
>
> Scott,
>
>
>
> If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom page
> size (add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18).
> You'll need the extra inch around the page to add the registration
> marks.
>
>
>
> If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving  
> to
> PDF.
>
>
>
> Do the registration marks now show?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
> Final output is 11x17.
> My steps are:
> *Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
> *Turn off generate acrobat data
> *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
> *Select page size
> *Print
>
> What am I missing?
>
>
>
>
> Scott White
> Manager - Content and Print Media
> Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
>
>
> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use
> of the intended recipient and may contain information that is
> privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the
> intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended
> recipient, you are hereby notified that distribution, disclosure,
> printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action
> in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of
> this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall
> not compromise or waive such confidentiality.  If you have received
> this communication in error, notify the sender immediately by
> return email and delete the message and any attachments from
> your system. Messages sent to or from this contact will be
> recorded and are subject to archival, monitoring, and/or disclosure
> to someone other than the recipient.
>