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 and then modify the styles etc, but that is not giving
me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on the
chapter template)

i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
add a disconnected page
then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
then i generate the toc in the book
then i open the book_nameTOC file
nothing is working

can someone guide me please.

sorry if the question is repeated...
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>> "Less words.  Less crap."  -- Shtikl.com

Shouldn't that be "Fewer words"?

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Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:06:09 -0700
From: "Combs, Richard" 
To: Prithvi Diwanji ,
"framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
Subject: RE: master pages for table of contents
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Prithvi Diwanji wrote:

> hello all
> i am in the process of designing a new template.
> i am done with the chapter design (layouts, para+char etc)
> now i am trying to make a template for the TOC using the chapter template.
> 
> i can generate a toc and then modify the styles etc, but that is not
giving
> me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on the
> chapter template)

You can import page layouts from the chapter file. File > Import > Formats. 

> i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
> add a disconnected page

Why would you want to do that?

> then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
> then i generate the toc in the book
> then i open the book_nameTOC file
> nothing is working

That's a bit vague ... 


Richard G. Combs
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richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:09:49 -0400
From: Bill Swallow 
To: Theresa de Valence 
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Cover needs to bleed - More Questions
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I see what you're looking to do. Create a 2-page 11x17 cover file
then, with the bleeds around the edges only. That will avoid any odd
bleed effects at the fold.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Theresa de Valence  wrote:
> On 4/20/2011 21:20, Bill Swallow wrote:
>>
>> You're over-thinking it. :) Set up the FM file per normal but don't
>> include it in the book file. Since it's the cover it shouldn't need to
>> flow with numbering and such but you can also work around that if you
>> do need to number by setting the numbering of the first page of the
>> book file appropriately.
>>
>> So for the cover... 8.5"x11" layout in FM, but make sure all bleeding
>> graphics extend beyond the edge of the page. FM allows you to do this.
>> Just try. :) Then, when you PDF, set the PDF output page size to
>> 8.75"x11.25" and 

master pages for table of contents

[Prithvi Diwanji]

hello bill
this worked for me.
except for a little troubleshooting...
headin1 is getting listed above the chapter title in the TOC.
any idea how i can fix this?

many thanks for all your time and help


On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Bill Swallow wrote:

> You should have FM automatically create the TOC file and then import
> your page layouts from the chapter file into the TOC, then modify the
> TOC styles as needed to fit that layout. That's it.
>
> The reason "nothing is working" is likely because per your process the
> TOC file in your book contains no TOC elements on the reference pages
> for FM to use in building a TOC. Best practice is to import layouts
> into a generated TOC file.
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
>  wrote:
> > hello all
> > i am in the process of designing a new template.
> > i am done with the chapter design (layouts, para+char etc)
> > now i am trying to make a template for the TOC using the chapter
> template.
> >
> > i can generate a toc and then modify the styles etc, but that is not
> giving
> > me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on
> the
> > chapter template)
> >
> > i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
> > add a disconnected page
> > then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
> > then i generate the toc in the book
> > then i open the book_nameTOC file
> > nothing is working
> >
> > can someone guide me please.
> >
> > sorry if the question is repeated...
>
> --
> Bill Swallow
>
> Twitter: @techcommdood
> Blog: http://techcommdood.com
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood
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[Prithvi Diwanji]

hello bill,
thanks for the reply.

i will try this.
the thing is: my chapter has a first, right and left page. does all of this
get applied when i import page layouts from chapter to toc? only the right
and left seem to get applied.
i want the first page of the TOC to have a text frame that is smaller than
the right page, so that i can add a "contents" frame above it.

also how does one get page numbers to appear, in this method?


thanks

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Bill Swallow wrote:

> You should have FM automatically create the TOC file and then import
> your page layouts from the chapter file into the TOC, then modify the
> TOC styles as needed to fit that layout. That's it.
>
> The reason "nothing is working" is likely because per your process the
> TOC file in your book contains no TOC elements on the reference pages
> for FM to use in building a TOC. Best practice is to import layouts
> into a generated TOC file.
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
>  wrote:
> > hello all
> > i am in the process of designing a new template.
> > i am done with the chapter design (layouts, para+char etc)
> > now i am trying to make a template for the TOC using the chapter
> template.
> >
> > i can generate a toc and then modify the styles etc, but that is not
> giving
> > me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on
> the
> > chapter template)
> >
> > i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
> > add a disconnected page
> > then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
> > then i generate the toc in the book
> > then i open the book_nameTOC file
> > nothing is working
> >
> > can someone guide me please.
> >
> > sorry if the question is repeated...
>
> --
> Bill Swallow
>
> Twitter: @techcommdood
> Blog: http://techcommdood.com
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood
>
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[Prithvi Diwanji]

thanks for the reply.
i will re-state the problem
"given that i have a chapter template, how do i go about creating a toc
template"

(to answer your question as to why, i was following a tutorial given to me
by someone, but obviously i am doing something wrong somewhere..)

thanks


On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Combs, Richard
wrote:

> Prithvi Diwanji wrote:
>
> > hello all
> > i am in the process of designing a new template.
> > i am done with the chapter design (layouts, para+char etc)
> > now i am trying to make a template for the TOC using the chapter
> template.
> >
> > i can generate a toc and then modify the styles etc, but that is not
> giving
> > me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on
> the
> > chapter template)
>
> You can import page layouts from the chapter file. File > Import > Formats.
>
> > i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
> > add a disconnected page
>
> Why would you want to do that?
>
> > then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
> > then i generate the toc in the book
> > then i open the book_nameTOC file
> > nothing is working
>
> That's a bit vague ...
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-903-6372
> --
>
>
>
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[Prithvi Diwanji]

hello all
i am in the process of designing a new template.
i am done with the chapter design (layouts, para+char etc)
now i am trying to make a template for the TOC using the chapter template.

i can generate a toc and then modify the styles etc, but that is not giving
me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on the
chapter template)

i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
add a disconnected page
then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
then i generate the toc in the book
then i open the book_nameTOC file
nothing is working

can someone guide me please.

sorry if the question is repeated...
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Re: master pages for table of contents

[Prithvi Diwanji]

hello bill
this worked for me.
except for a little troubleshooting...
headin1 is getting listed above the chapter title in the TOC.
any idea how i can fix this?

many thanks for all your time and help


On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Bill Swallow wrote:

> You should have FM automatically create the TOC file and then import
> your page layouts from the chapter file into the TOC, then modify the
> TOC styles as needed to fit that layout. That's it.
>
> The reason "nothing is working" is likely because per your process the
> TOC file in your book contains no TOC elements on the reference pages
> for FM to use in building a TOC. Best practice is to import layouts
> into a generated TOC file.
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
>  wrote:
> > hello all
> > i am in the process of designing a new template.
> > i am done with the chapter design (layouts, para+char etc)
> > now i am trying to make a template for the TOC using the chapter
> template.
> >
> > i can generate a toc and then modify the styles etc, but that is not
> giving
> > me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on
> the
> > chapter template)
> >
> > i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
> > add a disconnected page
> > then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
> > then i generate the toc in the book
> > then i open the book_nameTOC file
> > nothing is working
> >
> > can someone guide me please.
> >
> > sorry if the question is repeated...
>
> --
> Bill Swallow
>
> Twitter: @techcommdood
> Blog: http://techcommdood.com
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood
>
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[Bill Swallow]

That's a very good point. I would never have thought to check if a
chapter name resided in a separate flow.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Sharon Burton  
wrote:
> If you have the Chapter name in a different text flow, it will appear later
> in the TOC. Connect the text flows to fix it. See the Frame documentation
> for more details.

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master pages for table of contents

[Stuart Rogers]

On 25/04/2011 11:59 AM, Bill Swallow wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
>   wrote:
>> hello bill
>> this worked for me.
>> except for a little troubleshooting...
>> headin1 is getting listed above the chapter title in the TOC.
>> any idea how i can fix this?
>>
>> many thanks for all your time and help
>

TOC entries occur in the order that FM finds them in the text flow.  Is 
your Chapter title in a separate text frame, or somehow arranged so that 
it follows a Heading1 in the flow?

-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

master pages for table of contents

[Bill Swallow]

You'll have the check your hierarchy and formatting of the TOC styles.
As for your previous question about layout, you apply master pages to
the TOC body pages just as you would with any file.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
 wrote:
> hello bill
> this worked for me.
> except for a little troubleshooting...
> headin1 is getting listed above the chapter title in the TOC.
> any idea how i can fix this?
>
> many thanks for all your time and help

-- 
Bill Swallow

Twitter: @techcommdood
Blog: http://techcommdood.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood

master pages for table of contents

[Bill Swallow]

You should have FM automatically create the TOC file and then import
your page layouts from the chapter file into the TOC, then modify the
TOC styles as needed to fit that layout. That's it.

The reason "nothing is working" is likely because per your process the
TOC file in your book contains no TOC elements on the reference pages
for FM to use in building a TOC. Best practice is to import layouts
into a generated TOC file.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
 wrote:
> hello all
> i am in the process of designing a new template.
> i am done with the chapter design (layouts, para+char etc)
> now i am trying to make a template for the TOC using the chapter template.
>
> i can generate a toc and then modify the styles etc, but that is not giving
> me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on the
> chapter template)
>
> i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
> add a disconnected page
> then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
> then i generate the toc in the book
> then i open the book_nameTOC file
> nothing is working
>
> can someone guide me please.
>
> sorry if the question is repeated...

-- 
Bill Swallow

Twitter: @techcommdood
Blog: http://techcommdood.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood

Cover needs to bleed - More Questions

[Bill Swallow]

I see what you're looking to do. Create a 2-page 11x17 cover file
then, with the bleeds around the edges only. That will avoid any odd
bleed effects at the fold.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Theresa de Valence  wrote:
> On 4/20/2011 21:20, Bill Swallow wrote:
>>
>> You're over-thinking it. :) Set up the FM file per normal but don't
>> include it in the book file. Since it's the cover it shouldn't need to
>> flow with numbering and such but you can also work around that if you
>> do need to number by setting the numbering of the first page of the
>> book file appropriately.
>>
>> So for the cover... 8.5"x11" layout in FM, but make sure all bleeding
>> graphics extend beyond the edge of the page. FM allows you to do this.
>> Just try. :) Then, when you PDF, set the PDF output page size to
>> 8.75"x11.25" and have the FM page centered on the PDF output page.
>> You'll see the 8.5"x11" page centered on the PDF page with 1/8" extra
>> all around it, with graphics extending into that area.
>>
>> I've done this for years for perfect bound professional pressed
>> covers, and am very happy that FM allows you to place graphics beyond
>> the page boundaries.
>
> I separated the inside/outside front/rear covers into their own book,
> created 8.5x11" pages. The images were created in Photoshop and are
> 8.75X11.25" and then I imported the images onto separate master pages and
> saved book as pdf which I have sent to the two printers who are providing
> Cost Estimates for my project and asked them to ask their pre-press guys if
> the documents I am sending will print properly. Neither printer has
> responded, and I don't have hopes I'll eventually hear from them, so I want
> to make sure I get it right the first time.
>
> The book will be 8.5 x 11" when finished but the pages are 17 x 11" and are
> folded in half down the long side and will be stapled or saddle stiched.
>
> Does this not mean that the outside front and outside rear have to have the
> image trimmed on the "joining" side, i.e. the images should be 8.625" x
> 11.25" for a properly bleeded image?
>
> Thanks.

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Re: master pages for table of contents

[Bill Swallow]

That's a very good point. I would never have thought to check if a
chapter name resided in a separate flow.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Sharon Burton  wrote:
> If you have the Chapter name in a different text flow, it will appear later
> in the TOC. Connect the text flows to fix it. See the Frame documentation
> for more details.

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Re: master pages for table of contents

[Stuart Rogers]

On 25/04/2011 11:59 AM, Bill Swallow wrote:

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
  wrote:

hello bill
this worked for me.
except for a little troubleshooting...
headin1 is getting listed above the chapter title in the TOC.
any idea how i can fix this?

many thanks for all your time and help




TOC entries occur in the order that FM finds them in the text flow.  Is 
your Chapter title in a separate text frame, or somehow arranged so that 
it follows a Heading1 in the flow?


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[Sharon Burton]

If you have the Chapter name in a different text flow, it will appear later
in the TOC. Connect the text flows to fix it. See the Frame documentation
for more details.


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Subject: Re: master pages for table of contents

You'll have the check your hierarchy and formatting of the TOC styles.
As for your previous question about layout, you apply master pages to
the TOC body pages just as you would with any file.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
 wrote:
> hello bill
> this worked for me.
> except for a little troubleshooting...
> headin1 is getting listed above the chapter title in the TOC.
> any idea how i can fix this?
>
> many thanks for all your time and help

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[Sharon Burton]

If you have the Chapter name in a different text flow, it will appear later
in the TOC. Connect the text flows to fix it. See the Frame documentation
for more details.


sharon

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To: Prithvi Diwanji
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Subject: Re: master pages for table of contents

You'll have the check your hierarchy and formatting of the TOC styles.
As for your previous question about layout, you apply master pages to
the TOC body pages just as you would with any file.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
 wrote:
> hello bill
> this worked for me.
> except for a little troubleshooting...
> headin1 is getting listed above the chapter title in the TOC.
> any idea how i can fix this?
>
> many thanks for all your time and help

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Re: master pages for table of contents

[Bill Swallow]

You'll have the check your hierarchy and formatting of the TOC styles.
As for your previous question about layout, you apply master pages to
the TOC body pages just as you would with any file.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
 wrote:
> hello bill
> this worked for me.
> except for a little troubleshooting...
> headin1 is getting listed above the chapter title in the TOC.
> any idea how i can fix this?
>
> many thanks for all your time and help

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Twitter: @techcommdood
Blog: http://techcommdood.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood
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OFF-Topic: Perfect Proverb for Tech Writers

[Gay Alson]

>> "Less words.  Less crap."  -- Shtikl.com

Shouldn't that be "Fewer words"?

(Sorry to be nitpicky -- but we are tech writers, after all...)


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Re: master pages for table of contents

[Bill Swallow]

You should have FM automatically create the TOC file and then import
your page layouts from the chapter file into the TOC, then modify the
TOC styles as needed to fit that layout. That's it.

The reason "nothing is working" is likely because per your process the
TOC file in your book contains no TOC elements on the reference pages
for FM to use in building a TOC. Best practice is to import layouts
into a generated TOC file.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
 wrote:
> hello all
> i am in the process of designing a new template.
> i am done with the chapter design (layouts, para+char etc)
> now i am trying to make a template for the TOC using the chapter template.
>
> i can generate a toc and then modify the styles etc, but that is not giving
> me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on the
> chapter template)
>
> i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
> add a disconnected page
> then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
> then i generate the toc in the book
> then i open the book_nameTOC file
> nothing is working
>
> can someone guide me please.
>
> sorry if the question is repeated...

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Re: Cover needs to bleed - More Questions

[Bill Swallow]

I see what you're looking to do. Create a 2-page 11x17 cover file
then, with the bleeds around the edges only. That will avoid any odd
bleed effects at the fold.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Theresa de Valence  wrote:
> On 4/20/2011 21:20, Bill Swallow wrote:
>>
>> You're over-thinking it. :) Set up the FM file per normal but don't
>> include it in the book file. Since it's the cover it shouldn't need to
>> flow with numbering and such but you can also work around that if you
>> do need to number by setting the numbering of the first page of the
>> book file appropriately.
>>
>> So for the cover... 8.5"x11" layout in FM, but make sure all bleeding
>> graphics extend beyond the edge of the page. FM allows you to do this.
>> Just try. :) Then, when you PDF, set the PDF output page size to
>> 8.75"x11.25" and have the FM page centered on the PDF output page.
>> You'll see the 8.5"x11" page centered on the PDF page with 1/8" extra
>> all around it, with graphics extending into that area.
>>
>> I've done this for years for perfect bound professional pressed
>> covers, and am very happy that FM allows you to place graphics beyond
>> the page boundaries.
>
> I separated the inside/outside front/rear covers into their own book,
> created 8.5x11" pages. The images were created in Photoshop and are
> 8.75X11.25" and then I imported the images onto separate master pages and
> saved book as pdf which I have sent to the two printers who are providing
> Cost Estimates for my project and asked them to ask their pre-press guys if
> the documents I am sending will print properly. Neither printer has
> responded, and I don't have hopes I'll eventually hear from them, so I want
> to make sure I get it right the first time.
>
> The book will be 8.5 x 11" when finished but the pages are 17 x 11" and are
> folded in half down the long side and will be stapled or saddle stiched.
>
> Does this not mean that the outside front and outside rear have to have the
> image trimmed on the "joining" side, i.e. the images should be 8.625" x
> 11.25" for a properly bleeded image?
>
> Thanks.

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RE: master pages for table of contents

[Combs, Richard]

Prithvi Diwanji wrote:
 
> hello all
> i am in the process of designing a new template.
> i am done with the chapter design (layouts, para+char etc)
> now i am trying to make a template for the TOC using the chapter template.
> 
> i can generate a toc and then modify the styles etc, but that is not giving
> me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on the
> chapter template)

You can import page layouts from the chapter file. File > Import > Formats. 
 
> i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
> add a disconnected page

Why would you want to do that?

> then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
> then i generate the toc in the book
> then i open the book_nameTOC file
> nothing is working

That's a bit vague ... 


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master pages for table of contents

[Combs, Richard]

Prithvi Diwanji wrote:

> hello all
> i am in the process of designing a new template.
> i am done with the chapter design (layouts, para+char etc)
> now i am trying to make a template for the TOC using the chapter template.
> 
> i can generate a toc and then modify the styles etc, but that is not giving
> me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on the
> chapter template)

You can import page layouts from the chapter file. File > Import > Formats. 

> i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
> add a disconnected page

Why would you want to do that?

> then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
> then i generate the toc in the book
> then i open the book_nameTOC file
> nothing is working

That's a bit vague ... 


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Re: OFF-Topic: Perfect Proverb for Tech Writers

[Gay Alson]

>> "Less words.  Less crap."  -- Shtikl.com

Shouldn't that be "Fewer words"?

(Sorry to be nitpicky -- but we are tech writers, after all...)


Gay Alson


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master pages for table of contents

[Prithvi Diwanji]

hello all
i am in the process of designing a new template.
i am done with the chapter design (layouts, para+char etc)
now i am trying to make a template for the TOC using the chapter template.

i can generate a toc and then modify the styles etc, but that is not giving
me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on the
chapter template)

i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
add a disconnected page
then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
then i generate the toc in the book
then i open the book_nameTOC file
nothing is working

can someone guide me please.

sorry if the question is repeated...
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