Index Sorting - Single Word
Hi Framers, I've studied the index sort order reference page but don't quite get how to make my index sort a single word followed by its comma and page number above the same word with another word following it. I want to keep letter-by-letter sorting. If Frame ignores commas, and the entry has nothing following the single word, shouldn't it appear before an entry that has any character after the word? I know I could make another index level; but keeping known phrases together, without twisting them around or breaking them up, is better for my readers. What I get: URSA enrollment appointment times, 28 enrollment, 22 What I want: URSA enrollment, 22 enrollment appointment times, 28 Any way to accomplish this? Thanks, Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Index Sorting - Single Word
Hi Framers, I've studied the index sort order reference page but don't quite get how to make my index sort a single word followed by its comma and page number above the same word with another word following it. I want to keep letter-by-letter sorting. If Frame ignores commas, and the entry has nothing following the single word, shouldn't it appear before an entry that has any character after the word? I know I could make another index level; but keeping known phrases together, without twisting them around or breaking them up, is better for my readers. What I get: URSA enrollment appointment times, 28 enrollment, 22 What I want: URSA enrollment, 22 enrollment appointment times, 28 Any way to accomplish this? Thanks, Karen
Application of multiple character tags in generated documents
Richard's advice is good, though another view on the same point might help make
it theologically neutral, heh-heh...
Think of it in terms of the PURPOSE of the char-tags you are applying---like
Richard said, is it a product name, or a foreign word, or a menu command?
Either way, your two-format tag could reflect that purpose in its name
("Emphasis" or "Definition").
By following this model (tags defined by purpose/content), you can then begin
getting away from tags defined by format ("Bold" or "Italic" or "Red") and so
the proliferation you feared begins to wash out. For every tag you create
that's semantically smart but "roughly" one-off, you begin to see how you can
eliminate a tag that's semantically blind and dumb, and which also has problems
when used in combination with other such format-based but content-dumb tags.
This type of change will also help in case you ever go to a structured
environment.
Which of course you long to do. Right?
- B.Mc.
-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:17 AM
To: VLM TechSubs; Framers
Subject: RE: Application of multiple character tags in generated documents
VLM TechSubs wrote:
> I apply 2 character tags to a word in a heading.?Both tags are
> correctly reflected in the appearance of that word. But when I produce
> a ToC, only the last tag applied is reflected in the format of the
> corresponding word.
>
> Obviously, I could make a "special" tag to take care of this ... and
> I'm not all that fond of tag proliferation and the use of roughly one-
> off tags. Is there another solution?
FM only "remembers" one char tag for a given text string. When you apply two
char tags, you're creating an override. It's as if you'd applied the first char
tag's settings as ad hoc formatting. Since I never apply multiple char tags, I
wasn't aware that doing so would affect a TOC entry.
I suggest you create a single char tag that correctly formats the text -- bold
and red, italic and small caps, or whatever. For one thing, you'll avoid those
overrides and thus have a purer soul. For another, it will make things much
easier when, some day in the future, you have to change all instances of that
word (a product name, maybe?) to, say, small caps and cerulean blue. :-)
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
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Automatic Image Scaling
Hello Listers, ? Was wondering is there an automatic method to scale the images automatically while importing with a reference in Framemaker 7.0? Currently I import images with reference and set the dpi as required or use the ?scaling? option but I do not use ?text frame? to scale the graphics because the html output messes up. Maybe I do not know to use the option efficiently. This is a manual process so was wondering is there an automatic process or command that I might have overlooked? ? TIA Garnier -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110531/50861c2a/attachment.html>
How do I keep Para catalog and Character catalog on top?
Drag the pod off to the side so it is a child window. You can also move the sub-pieces of the pods around to assemble a "custom" pod. Grant Nancy Allison wrote: > Hi, all. > > I'm using FrameMaker 10 with Windows 7. > > I haven't messed with the workspace setup much, so I have the panel on the > right of the workspace, and the "pods" for the Paragraph Tag catalog and > Character tag catalog are at the top of the panel. > > For a while, when I opened either catalog, it would stay open and stay on top > of my working file -- handy if I needed to apply a character tag to multiple > instances. Now, as soon as I click a tag in the catalog, the catalog closes. > How do I make it stay open? > > I have looked for likely commands and have not found any. > > Thanks. > > --Nancy > fo. >
How do I keep Para catalog and Character catalog on top?
Hi, all. I'm using FrameMaker 10 with Windows 7. I haven't messed with the workspace setup much, so I have the panel on the right of the workspace, and the "pods" for the Paragraph Tag catalog and Character tag catalog are at the top of the panel. For a while, when I opened either catalog, it would stay open and stay on top of my working file -- handy if I needed to apply a character tag to multiple instances. Now, as soon as I click a tag in the catalog, the catalog closes. How do I make it stay open? I have looked for likely commands and have not found any. Thanks. --Nancy
Framemaker 9 master pages - reversed pagination
I have a problem with the master pages in my document, for some reason the pagination seems to be back to front. I've got two master pages for each section of my document, one for left hand and one for right hand pages. The RH page always appears in the document as the first page. However, when I open my master pages the page that appears at the top is the LH page. The RH master page appears below. Not knowing how to fix this I've worked around it by setting the page numbering and other headers and footers to take account of the positioning. I can continue to fix this as it doesn't need to be dealt with too often but I'm wondering: a. How it came about? b. Is there a simple solution that could put it right that wouldn't involve a major restructuring of the document? Any thoughts? Cheers Andy *** This e-mail (which includes any files attached to it), it is intended solely for the named recipient and may contain CONFIDENTIAL, legally privileged or trade secret information protected by law. It has been sent it via the internet and is therefore not secure against corruption, interception or unauthorised modification. If you are not the intended recipient please do not read, use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on any information contained in this e-mail. Please immediately notify us by telephoning +44 (0) 1494 887808 or return it to us by e-mail to the sender, confirming that this e-mail has been deleted from your system and any hard copies destroyed. To the extent permitted by law, neither we nor any of our subsidiaries, parent entities or other affiliates, nor any employee, director or officer thereof, accepts any liability whatsoever in relation to this e-mail including liability arising from any external breach of security or confidentiality or for virus infection or for statements made which are clearly the sender's own and not made on our behalf. "We" and "our" in this footer refer to the following legal entity: VWS (UK) Ltd. Registered in England and Wales No. 327847, Marlow International, Parkway, Marlow, Bucks SL7 1YL ELGA LabWater Division This company is a member of the Veolia Water Solutions & Technologies group, but please contact the sender should you have any question regarding the legal entity on whose behalf this email was sent. *** * This e-mail message and any attachments to it are intended only for the named recipients and may contain confidential information. If you are not one of the intended recipients, please do not duplicate or forward this e-mail message and immediately delete it from your computer. If you received this email in error, please notify postmaster at veoliawater.com * -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110531/7d54d440/attachment.html>
How do I keep Para catalog and Character catalog on top?
Hi, all. I'm using FrameMaker 10 with Windows 7. I haven't messed with the workspace setup much, so I have the panel on the right of the workspace, and the "pods" for the Paragraph Tag catalog and Character tag catalog are at the top of the panel. For a while, when I opened either catalog, it would stay open and stay on top of my working file -- handy if I needed to apply a character tag to multiple instances. Now, as soon as I click a tag in the catalog, the catalog closes. How do I make it stay open? I have looked for likely commands and have not found any. Thanks. --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Application of multiple character tags in generated
I agree with Richard Combs... You should create your special char tag to account for the effect you get by applying two more general char tags. But I'd go a step further. Don't name it Italic_Bold, or anything like that. In fact, you should never name your char tags (or any other tags) by the formatting effect. Stop and think of the *category* that formatting implies for the reader. Give that category a name, and use that as the name for your tag. If you can't come up with such a name, then maybe you should question the use of the formatting... Maybe it doesn't impart any information after all. The benefit of this approach is that you are implicitly declaring the structure of your document. If the day ever comes that you want to map your docs to explicit structure, you have the information already in place. And it just makes for better document engineering. As you have seen, even Maker can't automate its processes based on your combinations of formats. Suppose you want to write a script that manages precisely these bits of text... Well, using a single, well named format makes that much easier to accomplish. cud ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Application of multiple character tags in generated
I agree with Richard Combs...? You should create your special char tag to account for the effect you get by applying two more general char tags.? But I'd go a step further.? Don't name it Italic_Bold, or anything like that.? In fact, you should never name your char tags (or any other tags) by the formatting effect.? Stop and think of the *category* that formatting implies for the reader.? Give that category a name, and use that as the name for your tag.? If you can't come up with such a name, then maybe you should question the use of the formatting...? Maybe it doesn't impart any information after all.? The benefit of this approach is that you are implicitly declaring the structure of your document.? If the day ever comes that you want to map your docs to explicit structure, you have the information already in place.? And it just makes for better document engineering.? As you have seen, even Maker can't automate its processes based on your combinations of formats.? Suppose you want to write a script that manages precisely these bits of text...? Well, using a single, well named format makes that much easier to accomplish.? cud -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110531/e7814e40/attachment.html>
ANN: ExtendScript eSeminar Slides and Samples
Hello Framers, If you missed my Adobe ExtendScript eSeminar last week, you can download the slides and sample scripts from my blog: http://frameautomation.com/2011/05/31/framemaker-10-extendscript-slides/ I will post a link to the recorded seminar as soon as it is available. Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 rick at frameexpert.com
RE: Application of multiple character tags in generated documents
VLM TechSubs wrote: > I apply 2 character tags to a word in a heading. Both tags are > correctly reflected in the appearance of that word. But when I produce > a ToC, only the last tag applied is reflected in the format of the > corresponding word. > > Obviously, I could make a "special" tag to take care of this ... and > I'm not all that fond of tag proliferation and the use of roughly one- > off tags. Is there another solution? FM only "remembers" one char tag for a given text string. When you apply two char tags, you're creating an override. It's as if you'd applied the first char tag's settings as ad hoc formatting. Since I never apply multiple char tags, I wasn't aware that doing so would affect a TOC entry. I suggest you create a single char tag that correctly formats the text -- bold and red, italic and small caps, or whatever. For one thing, you'll avoid those overrides and thus have a purer soul. For another, it will make things much easier when, some day in the future, you have to change all instances of that word (a product name, maybe?) to, say, small caps and cerulean blue. :-) Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Application of multiple character tags in generated documents
VLM TechSubs wrote: > I apply 2 character tags to a word in a heading.?Both tags are > correctly reflected in the appearance of that word. But when I produce > a ToC, only the last tag applied is reflected in the format of the > corresponding word. > > Obviously, I could make a "special" tag to take care of this ... and > I'm not all that fond of tag proliferation and the use of roughly one- > off tags. Is there another solution? FM only "remembers" one char tag for a given text string. When you apply two char tags, you're creating an override. It's as if you'd applied the first char tag's settings as ad hoc formatting. Since I never apply multiple char tags, I wasn't aware that doing so would affect a TOC entry. I suggest you create a single char tag that correctly formats the text -- bold and red, italic and small caps, or whatever. For one thing, you'll avoid those overrides and thus have a purer soul. For another, it will make things much easier when, some day in the future, you have to change all instances of that word (a product name, maybe?) to, say, small caps and cerulean blue. :-) Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
Application of multiple character tags in generated documents
Win XP SP3 Frame 8 up to date, unstructured I apply 2 character tags to a word in a heading. Both tags are correctly reflected in the appearance of that word. But when I produce a ToC, only the last tag applied is reflected in the format of the corresponding word. Obviously, I could make a "special" tag to take care of this ... and I'm not all that fond of tag proliferation and the use of roughly one-off tags. Is there another solution? Thank you kindly, Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Application of multiple character tags in generated documents
Win XP SP3 Frame 8 up to date, unstructured I apply 2 character tags to a word in a heading. Both tags are correctly reflected in the appearance of that word. But when I produce a ToC, only the last tag applied is reflected in the format of the corresponding word. Obviously, I could make a "special" tag to take care of this ... and I'm not all that fond of tag proliferation and the use of roughly one-off tags. Is there another solution? Thank you kindly, Elchanan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110531/d0d995a3/attachment.html>
ANN: ExtendScript eSeminar Slides and Samples
Hello Framers, If you missed my Adobe ExtendScript eSeminar last week, you can download the slides and sample scripts from my blog: http://frameautomation.com/2011/05/31/framemaker-10-extendscript-slides/ I will post a link to the recorded seminar as soon as it is available. Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Automatic Image Scaling
Hello Listers, Was wondering is there an automatic method to scale the images automatically while importing with a reference in Framemaker 7.0? Currently I import images with reference and set the dpi as required or use the ‘scaling’ option but I do not use ‘text frame’ to scale the graphics because the html output messes up. Maybe I do not know to use the option efficiently. This is a manual process so was wondering is there an automatic process or command that I might have overlooked? TIA Garnier___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
