RE: hotkey bug in FrameMaker 10
Joseph, With FM10 and WinXP what you describe is true if you don't move the curser. If you move the curser to a new location after opening the Paragraph, Character, or Table designer you can open either of the others with the keyboard shortcut. It seems to work in any order, but you have to move the curser each time. Clint Clint Owen | Sr. Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace Electronics | +1 425 743 8674 | Fax: +1 425 743 8113 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lorenzini Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 8:42 AM To: tcs-us...@googlegroups.com; FrameMaker Forum Subject: hotkey bug in FrameMaker 10 Hi all, I have the TCS 3.5. I was wondering if anyone else was seeing the following issue. To bring up the paragraph designer pod, one users the hotkey ctrl+m. To bring up the character designer pod, one uses the hotkey ctrl+d. I noticed that if i bring up the characer designer, then I can not use a hotkey to bring up the paragraph designer. The converse is true as well, where if i have brought up the paragraph designer then a hot key cannot bring up the character designer. Anyone else seeing this? Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzini Check out the new Crane Aerospace Electronics Newsroom! http://newsroom.craneae.com Like us on Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Crane-Aerospace-Electronics/163305413682908 We value your opinion! How may we serve you better? Please click the survey link to tell us how we are doing: http://www.craneae.com/ContactUs/VoiceofCustomer.aspx Your feedback is of the utmost importance to us. Thank you for your time. Crane Aerospace Electronics Confidentiality Statement: The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient, or any employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: hotkey bug in FrameMaker 10
It also works for me by simply clicking back in the document (anywhere ... including at the place the cursor was to begin with!). To me, this behavior is pretty normal ... meaning that once the paragraph (or character) designer pod comes up, the focus has changed and needs to be brought back to the document ... where the hotkeys are valid input. Z From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:41 AM To: FrameMaker Forum Cc: tcs-us...@googlegroups.com; Joseph Lorenzini Subject: RE: hotkey bug in FrameMaker 10 Joseph, With FM10 and WinXP what you describe is true if you don't move the curser. If you move the curser to a new location after opening the Paragraph, Character, or Table designer you can open either of the others with the keyboard shortcut. It seems to work in any order, but you have to move the curser each time. Clint Clint Owen | Sr. Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace Electronics | +1 425 743 8674 | Fax: +1 425 743 8113 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]mailto:[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lorenzini Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 8:42 AM To: tcs-us...@googlegroups.commailto:tcs-us...@googlegroups.com; FrameMaker Forum Subject: hotkey bug in FrameMaker 10 Hi all, I have the TCS 3.5. I was wondering if anyone else was seeing the following issue. To bring up the paragraph designer pod, one users the hotkey ctrl+m. To bring up the character designer pod, one uses the hotkey ctrl+d. I noticed that if i bring up the characer designer, then I can not use a hotkey to bring up the paragraph designer. The converse is true as well, where if i have brought up the paragraph designer then a hot key cannot bring up the character designer. Anyone else seeing this? Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzini Check out the new Crane Aerospace Electronics Newsroomhttp://newsroom.craneae.com/! Like us on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Crane-Aerospace-Electronics/163305413682908! We value your opinion! http://www.craneae.com/surveys/satisfaction.htm How may we serve you better? Please click the survey link to tell us how we are doing: http://www.craneae.com/surveys/satisfaction.htm Your feedback is of the utmost importance to us. Thank you for your time. Crane Aerospace Electronics Confidentiality Statement: The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient, or any employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: hotkey bug in FrameMaker 10
On 21/11/2011 11:14 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: It also works for me by simply clicking back in the document (anywhere … including at the place the cursor was to begin with!). To me, this behavior is pretty “normal” … meaning that once the paragraph (or character) designer pod comes up, the focus has changed and needs to be brought back to the document … where the hotkeys are valid input. It is standard behaviour; the same is true in FM 7 or Word, and most other programs. It's just a little confusing in FM 9/10 because these pod-thingys don't look like regular dialog boxes. But in most programs, when a dialog is open, shortcuts only work in the context of that dialog. My thanks to the earlier poster who mentioned Shift + F7 to put the focus back in the document -- that means MANY fewer time-sucking mouse-clicks I'll have to use! s. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Xref page numbering not correct
Hi Steve... Hmm .. check to see where the @hrefs are pointing .. do they reference the generated FM files or do they reference the source DITA topics? They should be referencing the generated FM files (so the links work in the PDF and the page numbers are correct). At one point FM-DITA had a problem with this (leaving the @hrefs pointing at the DITA topics), but I thought this had been fixed. Have you applied the two FM10 updates? ...scott Steve Nelson wrote: Hello, Pagination is all set in the book (into which I've referenced all of the composite fm files, which are themselves the result of doing a Save Ditamap As... for each of my section-level dita maps). The resulting pdf is correct as far as the page numbering in the footers, as well as the numbering in the TOC. Xrefs still read as see topic name on page 1. Thank you. Stephen Nelson Technical Writer Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell 39 Main St. Scottsville, NY 14546 snel...@ambrell.com 585.889.0288 (office) -Original Message- From: Scott Prentice [mailto:s...@leximation.com] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:02 PM To: Steve Nelson Cc: 'Framers'; r...@frameexpert.com Subject: Re: Xref page numbering not correct Hi Steve... I'll bet that the page numbers are also all 1. The cross-refs are correct .. you need to set up the pagination for the book then update the book, and the page numbers should update as well as the cross-refs. BTW .. you might send FM DITA questions to the framemaker-dita Yahoo group .. you'll find more people who are likely to have the answer to your question. Cheers! ...scott -- Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Steve Nelson wrote: Hi, I'm using FM10 and dita 1.2 template/edd. For some reason(s), cross reference page numbering is not working. I'm mapping all of my xml topics into dita maps, converting those dita maps into composite fm files, adding those composite fms to a book, generating TOC, adding front matter, etc. In the DITA Cross-Reference dialog, I'm using the xref DITA element, and the $paratext on page $pagenum format. I update the book, and generate my pdf. All of the page numbers in the cross references are 1. Any idea what's going on? Am I using the wrong method to generate a book? Thank you. Stephen Nelson Technical Writer Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell 39 Main St. Scottsville, NY 14546 snel...@ambrell.com 585.889.0288 (office) - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4024 - Release Date: 11/18/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4024 - Release Date: 11/18/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4030 - Release Date: 11/21/11 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Xref page numbering not correct
Did you create FM files or XML files? If you created XML files, the xrefs will all pretty much say page 1. Nadine From: Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com To: Steve Nelson snel...@ambrell.com Cc: 'Framers' framers@lists.frameusers.com; r...@frameexpert.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:35:52 PM Subject: Re: Xref page numbering not correct Hi Steve... Hmm .. check to see where the @hrefs are pointing .. do they reference the generated FM files or do they reference the source DITA topics? They should be referencing the generated FM files (so the links work in the PDF and the page numbers are correct). At one point FM-DITA had a problem with this (leaving the @hrefs pointing at the DITA topics), but I thought this had been fixed. Have you applied the two FM10 updates? ...scott Steve Nelson wrote: Hello, Pagination is all set in the book (into which I've referenced all of the composite fm files, which are themselves the result of doing a Save Ditamap As... for each of my section-level dita maps). The resulting pdf is correct as far as the page numbering in the footers, as well as the numbering in the TOC. Xrefs still read as see topic name on page 1. Thank you. Stephen Nelson Technical Writer Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell 39 Main St. Scottsville, NY 14546 snel...@ambrell.com 585.889.0288 (office) -Original Message- From: Scott Prentice [mailto:s...@leximation.com] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:02 PM To: Steve Nelson Cc: 'Framers'; r...@frameexpert.com Subject: Re: Xref page numbering not correct Hi Steve... I'll bet that the page numbers are also all 1. The cross-refs are correct .. you need to set up the pagination for the book then update the book, and the page numbers should update as well as the cross-refs. BTW .. you might send FM DITA questions to the framemaker-dita Yahoo group .. you'll find more people who are likely to have the answer to your question. Cheers! ...scott -- Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Steve Nelson wrote: Hi, I'm using FM10 and dita 1.2 template/edd. For some reason(s), cross reference page numbering is not working. I'm mapping all of my xml topics into dita maps, converting those dita maps into composite fm files, adding those composite fms to a book, generating TOC, adding front matter, etc. In the DITA Cross-Reference dialog, I'm using the xref DITA element, and the $paratext on page $pagenum format. I update the book, and generate my pdf. All of the page numbers in the cross references are 1. Any idea what's going on? Am I using the wrong method to generate a book? Thank you. Stephen Nelson Technical Writer Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell 39 Main St. Scottsville, NY 14546 snel...@ambrell.com 585.889.0288 (office) - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4024 - Release Date: 11/18/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4024 - Release Date: 11/18/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4030 - Release Date: 11/21/11 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Xref page numbering not correct
Steve ... The map to book conversion process should relink the @hrefs to the new FM files .. you shouldn't have to do anything. If the @hrefs are pointing at the source DITA files, there's no way that the links will ever work (since they will always point at the wrong place), and the page numbers are in fact correct since the topics always start at page #1. You should install the two FM10 updates and see if that fixes the problem. If not .. you should use DITA-FMx which does this (and many other things) correctly. :) ...scott Steve Nelson wrote: Hi Scott, No, they're built in the source topics, so they're referencing the topics. Should I be building my xrefs in the resulting fm files? I'm not sure how to make them reference the genned FM files. I have not applied any FM10 updates. Stephen Nelson Technical Writer Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell 39 Main St. Scottsville, NY 14546 snel...@ambrell.com 585.889.0288 (office) -Original Message- From: Scott Prentice [mailto:s...@leximation.com] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:36 PM To: Steve Nelson Cc: 'Framers'; r...@frameexpert.com Subject: Re: Xref page numbering not correct Hi Steve... Hmm .. check to see where the @hrefs are pointing .. do they reference the generated FM files or do they reference the source DITA topics? They should be referencing the generated FM files (so the links work in the PDF and the page numbers are correct). At one point FM-DITA had a problem with this (leaving the @hrefs pointing at the DITA topics), but I thought this had been fixed. Have you applied the two FM10 updates? ...scott Steve Nelson wrote: Hello, Pagination is all set in the book (into which I've referenced all of the composite fm files, which are themselves the result of doing a Save Ditamap As... for each of my section-level dita maps). The resulting pdf is correct as far as the page numbering in the footers, as well as the numbering in the TOC. Xrefs still read as see topic name on page 1. Thank you. Stephen Nelson Technical Writer Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell 39 Main St. Scottsville, NY 14546 snel...@ambrell.com 585.889.0288 (office) -Original Message- From: Scott Prentice [mailto:s...@leximation.com] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:02 PM To: Steve Nelson Cc: 'Framers'; r...@frameexpert.com Subject: Re: Xref page numbering not correct Hi Steve... I'll bet that the page numbers are also all 1. The cross-refs are correct .. you need to set up the pagination for the book then update the book, and the page numbers should update as well as the cross-refs. BTW .. you might send FM DITA questions to the framemaker-dita Yahoo group .. you'll find more people who are likely to have the answer to your question. Cheers! ...scott -- Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Steve Nelson wrote: Hi, I'm using FM10 and dita 1.2 template/edd. For some reason(s), cross reference page numbering is not working. I'm mapping all of my xml topics into dita maps, converting those dita maps into composite fm files, adding those composite fms to a book, generating TOC, adding front matter, etc. In the DITA Cross-Reference dialog, I'm using the xref DITA element, and the $paratext on page $pagenum format. I update the book, and generate my pdf. All of the page numbers in the cross references are 1. Any idea what's going on? Am I using the wrong method to generate a book? Thank you. Stephen Nelson Technical Writer Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell 39 Main St. Scottsville, NY 14546 snel...@ambrell.com 585.889.0288 (office) - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4024 - Release Date: 11/18/11 - --- - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4024 - Release Date: 11/18/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4030 - Release Date: 11/21/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4030 - Release Date: 11/21/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4030 - Release Date: 11/21/11 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Xref page numbering not correct
No. The conversion from map to book should repoint the references to the new generated FM files. You should be able to author in DITA XML files, then create a book from that which can be made into a proper PDF. If that's not the case, it's a bug. ...scott Writer wrote: Did you create FM files or XML files? If you created XML files, the xrefs will all pretty much say page 1. Nadine *From:* Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com *To:* Steve Nelson snel...@ambrell.com *Cc:* 'Framers' framers@lists.frameusers.com; r...@frameexpert.com *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2011 1:35:52 PM *Subject:* Re: Xref page numbering not correct Hi Steve... Hmm .. check to see where the @hrefs are pointing .. do they reference the generated FM files or do they reference the source DITA topics? They should be referencing the generated FM files (so the links work in the PDF and the page numbers are correct). At one point FM-DITA had a problem with this (leaving the @hrefs pointing at the DITA topics), but I thought this had been fixed. Have you applied the two FM10 updates? ...scott Steve Nelson wrote: Hello, Pagination is all set in the book (into which I've referenced all of the composite fm files, which are themselves the result of doing a Save Ditamap As... for each of my section-level dita maps). The resulting pdf is correct as far as the page numbering in the footers, as well as the numbering in the TOC. Xrefs still read as see topic name on page 1. Thank you. Stephen Nelson Technical Writer Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell 39 Main St. Scottsville, NY 14546 snel...@ambrell.com mailto:snel...@ambrell.com 585.889.0288 (office) -Original Message- From: Scott Prentice [mailto:s...@leximation.com mailto:s...@leximation.com] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:02 PM To: Steve Nelson Cc: 'Framers'; r...@frameexpert.com mailto:r...@frameexpert.com Subject: Re: Xref page numbering not correct Hi Steve... I'll bet that the page numbers are also all 1. The cross-refs are correct .. you need to set up the pagination for the book then update the book, and the page numbers should update as well as the cross-refs. BTW .. you might send FM DITA questions to the framemaker-dita Yahoo group .. you'll find more people who are likely to have the answer to your question. Cheers! ...scott -- Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Steve Nelson wrote: Hi, I'm using FM10 and dita 1.2 template/edd. For some reason(s), cross reference page numbering is not working. I'm mapping all of my xml topics into dita maps, converting those dita maps into composite fm files, adding those composite fms to a book, generating TOC, adding front matter, etc. In the DITA Cross-Reference dialog, I'm using the xref DITA element, and the $paratext on page $pagenum format. I update the book, and generate my pdf. All of the page numbers in the cross references are 1. Any idea what's going on? Am I using the wrong method to generate a book? Thank you. Stephen Nelson Technical Writer Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell 39 Main St. Scottsville, NY 14546 snel...@ambrell.com mailto:snel...@ambrell.com 585.889.0288 (office) - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4024 - Release Date: 11/18/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4024 - Release Date: 11/18/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4030 - Release Date: 11/21/11 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com mailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com mailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are
Re: Xref page numbering not correct
No. The conversion from map to book should repoint the references to the new generated FM files. You should be able to author in DITA XML files, then create a book from that which can be made into a proper PDF. If that's not the case, it's a bug. Not if Steve created a book with XML components (ie, book), rather than FM components (ie, book with FM components). Boo boos happen sometimes. I've done it myself. Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Xref page numbering not correct
Right .. if he created the book with XML components, then there's no conversion and no relinking of xrefs .. but I was under the impression that he used the Save As FM Components from the map. That should generate a book and FM components from the XML files and relink any references from the DITA source to the new FM files. ...scott Writer wrote: No. The conversion from map to book should repoint the references to the new generated FM files. You should be able to author in DITA XML files, then create a book from that which can be made into a proper PDF. If that's not the case, it's a bug. Not if Steve created a book with XML components (ie, book), rather than FM components (ie, book with FM components). Boo boos happen sometimes. I've done it myself. Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Xref page numbering not correct
Ah, then I don't know. If you're creating chapters separately and then combining them into a book, that might be part of the problem. You could try creating the chapters as submaps and then place them in an uber map. That's what we do (we're still using FM 9, btw). When you save the uber ditamap as an FM book with FM components, it creates a books file, and the submaps are converted to chapters within the book. Nadine - Original Message - From: Steve Nelson snel...@ambrell.com To: 'Scott Prentice' s...@leximation.com; 'Writer' generic...@yahoo.ca Cc: 'Framers' framers@lists.frameusers.com; r...@frameexpert.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:09:22 PM Subject: RE: Xref page numbering not correct Here's what I'm doing: 1. Creating dita topics (.xml) 2. Creating dita maps (my sections/chapters) and adding the dita topics as children. 3. Saving the dita maps as composite fm files. 4. Creating a book (File: New: Book) 5. Adding composite fms (my sections/chapters) to the book. 6. Adding front matter, TOC etc... Via the book. Setting up pagination, etc... 7. Getting PDF out via Print Book. I installed an update. Still no joy. TOC page numbering and page numbering in the page footers are correct, but page numbering in Xrefs still wrong. Stephen Nelson Technical Writer Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell 39 Main St. Scottsville, NY 14546 snel...@ambrell.com 585.889.0288 (office) -Original Message- From: Scott Prentice [mailto:s...@leximation.com] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:02 PM To: Writer Cc: Steve Nelson; 'Framers'; r...@frameexpert.com Subject: Re: Xref page numbering not correct Right .. if he created the book with XML components, then there's no conversion and no relinking of xrefs .. but I was under the impression that he used the Save As FM Components from the map. That should generate a book and FM components from the XML files and relink any references from the DITA source to the new FM files. ...scott Writer wrote: No. The conversion from map to book should repoint the references to the new generated FM files. You should be able to author in DITA XML files, then create a book from that which can be made into a proper PDF. If that's not the case, it's a bug. Not if Steve created a book with XML components (ie, book), rather than FM components (ie, book with FM components). Boo boos happen sometimes. I've done it myself. Nadine - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4030 - Release Date: 11/21/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4030 - Release Date: 11/21/11 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Xref page numbering not correct
I should have added that you need to place your reltable into the ubermap in that scenario. Nadine Ah, then I don't know. If you're creating chapters separately and then combining them into a book, that might be part of the problem. You could try creating the chapters as submaps and then place them in an uber map. That's what we do (we're still using FM 9, btw). When you save the uber ditamap as an FM book with FM components, it creates a books file, and the submaps are converted to chapters within the book. Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Xref page numbering not correct
I have a feeling I'm not helping. I'll just hush now. Nadine - Original Message - From: Steve Nelson snel...@ambrell.com To: 'Writer' generic...@yahoo.ca; 'Scott Prentice' s...@leximation.com Cc: 'Framers' framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:32:27 PM Subject: RE: Xref page numbering not correct I'm not using any reltables. Stephen Nelson Technical Writer Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell 39 Main St. Scottsville, NY 14546 snel...@ambrell.com 585.889.0288 (office) -Original Message- From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:29 PM To: Writer; Steve Nelson; 'Scott Prentice' Cc: 'Framers' Subject: Re: Xref page numbering not correct I should have added that you need to place your reltable into the ubermap in that scenario. Nadine Ah, then I don't know. If you're creating chapters separately and then combining them into a book, that might be part of the problem. You could try creating the chapters as submaps and then place them in an uber map. That's what we do (we're still using FM 9, btw). When you save the uber ditamap as an FM book with FM components, it creates a books file, and the submaps are converted to chapters within the book. Nadine - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4030 - Release Date: 11/21/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4030 - Release Date: 11/21/11 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Xref page numbering not correct
I think the problem is that you need to do a Save As Book with fm components .. if you save a map to a composite document, it should fix up any xrefs within that map to point to the FM instance of the reference (itself actually), but if you have xrefs that point to DITA topics in other maps or not included in that map, they will remain pointing to the XML instance. In general, I think the best practice is to use the Save As Book with FM components .. then you can either update that book or use another book file that you've set up .. but this should ensure that the references are correctly linked to the new FM instances of the topics. I just gave it a quick test in default FM-DITA and it seems to work as it should (I've got both updates installed though). ...scott Steve Nelson wrote: Here's what I'm doing: 1. Creating dita topics (.xml) 2. Creating dita maps (my sections/chapters) and adding the dita topics as children. 3. Saving the dita maps as composite fm files. 4. Creating a book (File: New: Book) 5. Adding composite fms (my sections/chapters) to the book. 6. Adding front matter, TOC etc... Via the book. Setting up pagination, etc... 7. Getting PDF out via Print Book. I installed an update. Still no joy. TOC page numbering and page numbering in the page footers are correct, but page numbering in Xrefs still wrong. Stephen Nelson Technical Writer Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell 39 Main St. Scottsville, NY 14546 snel...@ambrell.com 585.889.0288 (office) -Original Message- From: Scott Prentice [mailto:s...@leximation.com] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:02 PM To: Writer Cc: Steve Nelson; 'Framers'; r...@frameexpert.com Subject: Re: Xref page numbering not correct Right .. if he created the book with XML components, then there's no conversion and no relinking of xrefs .. but I was under the impression that he used the Save As FM Components from the map. That should generate a book and FM components from the XML files and relink any references from the DITA source to the new FM files. ...scott Writer wrote: No. The conversion from map to book should repoint the references to the new generated FM files. You should be able to author in DITA XML files, then create a book from that which can be made into a proper PDF. If that's not the case, it's a bug. Not if Steve created a book with XML components (ie, book), rather than FM components (ie, book with FM components). Boo boos happen sometimes. I've done it myself. Nadine - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4030 - Release Date: 11/21/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4030 - Release Date: 11/21/11 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Training materials for FM10
Use the Scriptorium references already mentioned for a guide to functions and use FM9 Classroom in a Book for a survey of the new interface. (No help in the latter for structured FM, however.) -- http://vizibility.com/calarts ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Xref page numbering not correct
>No. The conversion from map to book should repoint the references to the new >generated FM files. You should be able to author in DITA XML files, then >create a book from that which can be made into a proper PDF. If that's not the >case, it's a bug. Not if Steve created a book with XML components (ie, book), rather than FM components (ie, book with FM components). Boo boos happen sometimes. I've done it myself. Nadine
