RE: Upgrading from 9 to 10

2012-03-27 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Thank you to Rick and Jeff. For those of you upgrading from 9 to 10 on Win
7, 64 bit systems, you copy both the .cfsw and .fws files FROM the following
directory 

 

C:\Users\user
name\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\9\WorkSpaces\UnStructured

 

TO the following directory:

 

C:\Users\user
name\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\10\WorkSpaces\UnStructured

 

Why this isn't done automatically if you are doing an upgrade and not a from
scratch install is beyond me, but all my workspaces are indeed now available
in Framemaker 10.

 

Again, thanks to this list. It's a lifesaving and sanity saving resource.

 

TVB

 

 

 

From: Jeff Coatsworth [mailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:45 PM
To: Tammy Van Boening; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Upgrading from 9 to 10

 

Found them - they're hiding in the hidden Application Data folder - on my XP
machine it's in C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Application
Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\9\WorkSpaces\UnStructured\ (or Structured as the case
may be). Look for the .cfws and .fws files (not sure what the diff is
between them).

 

  _  

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:11 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Upgrading from 9 to 10

And, I received a 50/50 split on a previous inquiry as to whether an upgrade
would nuke my existing workspaces. I did not uninstall Framemaker 9 for this
reason before installing the upgrade, and sigh, no joy. No workspaces
apparently were saved. Before I uninstall Framemaker 9 (and fling it or
something to relieve my frustration out the window), is there anything that
I can save from FM 9/copy over from FM 9 to my FM 10 installation that might
magically recreate these workspaces automatically? 

Win 7, 64-bit system.

Thanks all,

TVB

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Re: Upgrading from 9 to 10

2012-03-27 Thread Stuart Rogers

On 27/03/2012 12:32 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

Thank you to Rick and Jeff. For those of you upgrading from 9 to 10 on
Win 7, 64 bit systems, you copy both the .cfsw and .fws files ...
TVB

*From:*Jeff Coatsworth [mailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:45 PM
*To:* Tammy Van Boening; framers@lists.frameusers.com
*Subject:* RE: Upgrading from 9 to 10

...  Look for the .cfws and .fws files (not sure what the diff
is between them).


I'll bet the .fws is the Framemaker Work Space, and the .cfws is the 
Clean Framemaker Work Space that you get if you select Reset Workspace.


Ah, the mysteries of the coder's mind...

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FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Rob Shell
Hi Framers:
I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used
more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
coprocessors are working...
Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads
work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
INCOMPATIBLE with windows 7.
It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it
after windows 7 was introduced.
The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there
who have the same issues.
Plus, there are some shocking reviews.

Rob Shell
FM9 p255
4 gigs ram quad
3 terabyte drives
OS Windows 7 with every update.




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Windows Seven
FrameMaker 9 patched
4 GB RAM
3 TB hd


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RE: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Combs, Richard
Rob Shell wrote:
 I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
 What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never
 used
 more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
 Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
 coprocessors are working...

It means that exactly. FM doesn't use multiple processors. Why does that 
disturb you? 

Many, many apps (even current releases) don't take advantage of multiple 
processors, or of only two (2 or 4 threads). There's little to be gained unless 
you're doing heavy graphics or video work. Your other processors are available 
to the other apps you're running at the same time. 

 Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how
 quads
 work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
 INCOMPATIBLE with windows 7.
 It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
 My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to
 fix it
 after windows 7 was introduced.
 The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out
 there
 who have the same issues.

FM 9 was released almost a year before Windows 7. FM 10, released more than a 
year ago, is compatible with Windows 7. But I wouldn't rush to upgrade, because 
FM 11 will likely be announced soon. 

It's unrealistic and unreasonable, IMHO, to expect Adobe to release an FM 9.x 
version that's Windows 7 compatible, or to fix anything other than security 
issues or other serious bugs. 

 Plus, there are some shocking reviews. 

None recent, I'd guess, since it's 3+ years old. 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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Re: Unstructured to structured FM?

2012-03-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
A vague notion that XML might have some benefits unsupported by any
research is not a sane reason for investing the massive amount of time
and effort required to migrate your source from one format to another.

And if you are considering migrating, you should evaluate other tools
besides FrameMaker.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Laura Fergusson
l.fergus...@codestuff.net wrote:
 My boss has mentioned the possibility of transferring our unstructured Frame
 docs to structured XML format. I have NO experience of structured FM and to
 be honest I’m a bit intimidated by it! (Boss is technical but knows little
 about tech writing tools btw) ...
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Re: Automatic ligatures

2012-03-27 Thread Matanya Ophee

On 26/03/2012 9:20 PM, Roger Shuttleworth wrote:

Hi Matanya

As others have said, FrameMaker on Windows does not do ligatures; that's
because they are not included in the Windows character sets.


That is only partially true. Indeed the fi and fl ligatures are not part 
of the main character set and not accessible with Alt-0xxx numeric 
keyboard codes, but they do reside at the bottom end of most type 1 and 
TT fonts with U-xxx accessible codes. Just open the font with Windows' 
Character map to see this. The fact remains that both QuarkExpress and 
InDesign found a way to access these characters. I see no reason why 
FrameMaker cannot accomplish the same.


What both QuarkExpress and InDesign also are unable to do is access the 
ff, ffi and ffl ligatures, since, indeed, these characters are only 
found in Expert fonts. I could live with just fi and fl, if necessary. 
Why, then, I do not migrate to these typographically superior programs?


because they are deficient on features that are important to me in the 
production of scholarly books such as footnotes, indexes etc. There is a 
Quark extension that can do this, but it cost about twice as much as the 
program itself. So there, I am stuck with FM-8 and expert fonts.




The only
resource that I am aware of is at
http://www.nbcs.rutgers.edu/~hedrick/typography/
http://www.nbcs.rutgers.edu/%7Ehedrick/typography/
If you go to the bottom of that article, there's mention of a plugin for
ligatures, but it appears to be only for FM 6 or 7. Perhaps the author
may be able to suggest other resources.



Thanks. I'll look into that.


Matanya Ophee
Editions Orphée Inc.,
1240 Clubview Blvd. N.
Columbus, OH 43235-1226
Phone: 614-846-9517
Fax: 614-846-9794
mailto:m.op...@orphee.com
http://www.editionsorphee.com
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Re: Automatic ligatures

2012-03-27 Thread Matanya Ophee

On 26/03/2012 10:04 PM, Jeff Coatsworth wrote:

FYI – FM 10 works fine on WinXP SP3


That's already encouraging. The reason I upgraded from FM7 to FM8 was 
the new provision for language dependent paragraph tags. I do a lot of 
bi- and tri-lingual texts and that feature became instantly useful.


What is there in the basic functionality of FM10 that is so radically 
better than FM8 to justify the expense of an upgrade?


I am not interested in DITA (whatever that is) or in structured books, 
so improvements in these area are not my concern.


As I mentioned, I am not inclined to upgrade the OS, since I must have 
access to DOS for my music typesetting software.


--

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1240 Clubview Blvd. N.
Columbus, OH 43235-1226
Phone: 614-846-9517
Fax: 614-846-9794
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RE: Keep paragraph with table

2012-03-27 Thread Timothy DeWees
Thanks Stuart, I'm sure I will get the spacing just right. I'm just so busy 
converting this massive document so some other writers can begin revising the 
content, that I haven't taken much time for fine tuning the pgf's. I like to do 
the tweaking later when nobody is waiting on me. That's one of the things I 
love about frame. I'm only using a handful of pgf's in this document and will 
be able to easily make formatting changes at any time during the conversion and 
revision process.

Tim

-Original Message-
From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 1:16 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Keep paragraph with table

Tim,

You shouldn't get any extra white space.  Double check the the two Space 
settings, and make sure their absolute values are equal to each other and as 
large as or larger than the font size of the anchor pgf. For example, if your 
anchor pgf font is 11pt, make the Space Below -12pt and the table's Space Above 
-12pt.  The table should then begin right below the pgf preceding the anchor 
pgf.  (Also check Space Below in the preceding pgf, and Space Above in the 
anchor pgf -- Frame will use the larger of the two if they are non-zero.)

HTH,

s.


On 26/03/2012 5:50 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote:
 Stuart,

 Thanks very much for your suggestion. It works very well. I got a 
 little bit of extra white space, but the breaks look much, much 
 cleaner. And if I tweak the spacing some, I might even be able to get 
 rid of  the extra white space. Thanks again.

 Tim

 -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers 
 [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012
 10:32 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; tdew...@charter.net
 Subject: Re: Keep paragraph with table

 On 23/03/2012 4:05 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote:
 I’ve got a very large document where we are using a table with no 
 title to handle two-column text. Often, the separated “title” will be 
 a heading 3 or 4, etc. How can I get the heading 3 paragraph to stay 
 with the table below it rather than breaking across a page? I 
 selected “keep with next paragraph”, but I’m not sure frame sees that 
 table as a paragraph. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 Tim

 Best practice seems to be to create a pgf tag dedicated to holding the 
 table anchor and nothing else.  If you set its Space Below to a 
 negative number equal to the font size, and set the Table tag's Space 
 Above to the same negative number, the pgf will take no additional 
 space itself. Then Keep With Next Pgf will work to stick your heading 
 to the table.

 HTH,

 -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited
 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5 +1
 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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FrameMaker 10 command-line options?

2012-03-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
Is there any documentation of FrameMaker 10's command-line options?
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Pagination: Top of Column

2012-03-27 Thread Theresa de Valence
I’m compiling many short, short stories into a book. I’d like the 
heading for the story (author + title) to be positioned in the same 
place on the page.


Previously I had a master page where I had split the body text frame 
into 6 slots (3 high x 2 columns). Setting the Paragraph Tag to 
Pagination: Top of Column worked perfectly putting the author at the top 
of the next available slot.


Because of confusion with bookmarks in the pdf version, I’ve decided to 
reduce the slots to 3 vertical slots. Now the Pagination: Top of Column 
no longer works to move the author to the top of the next body text 
frame. Also the Master Page usage is no longer working properly.


Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help.

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Re: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Roman Banks
Hi Rob,
 
FM9 is compatible with Win7 and I don't see any reason why it runs in WinXP 
compatibility mode on your PC. Framemaker 9 crashes because it is buggy. I 
would call it a beta version of Framemaker with the new interface. When I 
upgraded to FMv10, all the stability issues that you describe almost 
disappeared. I can't say that FMv10 does not crash at all, but it does so very 
rarely.
 
HTH,
Roman

From: Rob Shell rsh...@iafrica.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

Hi Framers:
I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used
more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
coprocessors are working...
Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads
work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
INCOMPATIBLE with windows 7.
It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it
after windows 7 was introduced.
The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there
who have the same issues.
Plus, there are some shocking reviews.

Rob Shell
FM9 p255
4 gigs ram quad
3 terabyte drives
OS Windows 7 with every update.




Rob Shell
Windows Seven
FrameMaker 9 patched
4 GB RAM
3 TB hd


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Hypertext?

2012-03-27 Thread Theresa de Valence
In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that 
clicking on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be 
created (e.g. t...@bstw.com MailTo:t...@bstw.com), but how to do it in 
Frame?


Thanks,
Theresa

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Re: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
Win7 32 or 64? I've encountered many compatibility problems with the
latter, would switch to 32 if it wasn't such a pain.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Rob Shell rsh...@iafrica.com wrote:
 Hi Framers:
 I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
 What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used
 more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
 Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
 coprocessors are working...
 Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads
 work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
 INCOMPATIBLE with windows 7.
 It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
 My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it
 after windows 7 was introduced.
 The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there
 who have the same issues.
 Plus, there are some shocking reviews.

 Rob Shell
 FM9 p255
 4 gigs ram quad
 3 terabyte drives
 OS Windows 7 with every update.




 Rob Shell
 Windows Seven
 FrameMaker 9 patched
 4 GB RAM
 3 TB hd


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RE: Upgrading from 9 to 10

2012-03-27 Thread Zimmerman, Gary


Looking at the dates on my Workspace files, I would guess that .fws is the 
original you defined, and .cfws is the customized or current one storing 
the latest changes to the workspace.  Just my guess.



-- garyZ





 -Original Message-

 From: Stuart Rogers

 Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:43 AM

 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

 Subject: Re: Upgrading from 9 to 10



 On 27/03/2012 12:32 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

  Thank you to Rick and Jeff. For those of you upgrading from 9 to 10 on

  Win 7, 64 bit systems, you copy both the .cfsw and .fws files ...

  TVB

 

  *From:*Jeff Coatsworth 
  [mailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com]mailto:[mailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com]

  *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:45 PM

  *To:* Tammy Van Boening; 
  framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com

  *Subject:* RE: Upgrading from 9 to 10

 

 ...  Look for the .cfws and .fws files (not sure what the diff

  is between them).



 I'll bet the .fws is the Framemaker Work Space, and the .cfws is the

 Clean Framemaker Work Space that you get if you select Reset Workspace.



 Ah, the mysteries of the coder's mind...



 --

 Stuart Rogers

 Technical Communicator

 Phoenix Geophysics Limited

 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3

 Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5

 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325



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Re: automating FrameMaker 10 + RoboHelp 9 build

2012-03-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
For future reference, with minor changes,
FM_INSTALL_DIR\Samples\ScriptsAndUtilities\Conditional
Text\FM_Outputs_CondText.jsx that comes with FM10 handles step 2. The
rest isn't really relevant to this list.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
 I'm looking into automating a time-consuming build process and am
 curious if anyone has done this successfully. I know how to do it
 (I've done similar things in the past with DZbatcher, ANT, etc.), I
 just don't want to start the project if I know that it's not possible,
 or if these are the wrong scripting tools.

 1. Windows batch file: launch FrameMaker from command line and start
 ExtendScript

 2. FrameMaker ExtendScript: open project, set conditional text for
 PDF, update book, save as PDF, set conditional text for online help,
 update book, save

 3. return to batch file, delete the contents of the Web help target
 directory, launch RoboHelp from command line, and start ExtendScript

 4. RoboHelp ExtendScript: open RoboHelp project, update FrameMaker
 source, generate Web help

 5. return to batch file, create .zip file from Web help target
 directory, launch Cygwin and start script

 6. Cygwin script: cvs commit (I know it's possible to kick off a
 Cygwin script at the end of a batch file)
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Re: Hypertext?

2012-03-27 Thread Writer
If you only need to output to PDF, I don't think you need to do anything. I ran 
a quick test with FM 9/Acrobat Pro 8, and Acrobat Pro automatically recognized 
the text in the FM file as an email address (although, I can't find how to 
prevent it from doing this). You might want to give the address a character tag 
in FM to make it look like a link.

Nadine





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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:50:21 PM
Subject: Hypertext?
 

In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that clicking 
on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be created (e.g.  
t...@bstw.com), but how to do it in Frame?

Thanks,
Theresa


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RE: Hypertext?

2012-03-27 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Theresa,

 

Here is the Hypertext marker syntax that you need:

 

message URL mailto:r...@frameexpert.com

 

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very
much.

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

*** 585-283-5045 *** NEW NUMBER

r...@frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com

 

 

 

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Subject: Hypertext?

 

In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that
clicking on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be created
(e.g.  t...@bstw.com), but how to do it in Frame?

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RE: Hypertext?

2012-03-27 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Highlight the text in FrameMaker, and put in a hypertext marker as message URL 
mailto:t...@bstw.com; ... this comes out  in the PDF as a clickable link that 
will invoke the default e-mail client compose window to that address.

Z


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In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that clicking 
on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be created (e.g.  
t...@bstw.comMailTo:t...@bstw.com), but how to do it in Frame?

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AW: Ann: Customers and partners praise Adobe FrameMaker 10

2012-03-27 Thread Georg Eck
Craig thanks,
Georg

--
RE: Ann: Customers and partners praise Adobe FrameMaker 10

Since that case study link broke by crossing lines in my email here is
the tinyurl version for anyone with the same problems.

http://tinyurl.com/76s834z

Craig
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Georg Eck
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 7:18 AM
To: Shlomo Perets
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: AW: Ann: Customers and partners praise Adobe FrameMaker 10

Hi Shlomo,

you 're right, there are more success stories available or we need one
more from customers.

Adobe will write some more in separately papers, like this new Case
Study: 



Upgrading from 9 to 10

2012-03-27 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Thank you to Rick and Jeff. For those of you upgrading from 9 to 10 on Win
7, 64 bit systems, you copy both the .cfsw and .fws files FROM the following
directory 



C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\9\WorkSpaces\UnStructured



TO the following directory:



C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\10\WorkSpaces\UnStructured



Why this isn't done automatically if you are doing an upgrade and not a from
scratch install is beyond me, but all my workspaces are indeed now available
in Framemaker 10.



Again, thanks to this list. It's a lifesaving and sanity saving resource.



TVB







From: Jeff Coatsworth [mailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:45 PM
To: Tammy Van Boening; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Upgrading from 9 to 10



Found them - they're hiding in the hidden Application Data folder - on my XP
machine it's in C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Application
Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\9\WorkSpaces\UnStructured\ (or Structured as the case
may be). Look for the .cfws and .fws files (not sure what the diff is
between them).



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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:11 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Upgrading from 9 to 10

And, I received a 50/50 split on a previous inquiry as to whether an upgrade
would nuke my existing workspaces. I did not uninstall Framemaker 9 for this
reason before installing the upgrade, and sigh, no joy. No workspaces
apparently were saved. Before I uninstall Framemaker 9 (and fling it or
something to relieve my frustration out the window), is there anything that
I can save from FM 9/copy over from FM 9 to my FM 10 installation that might
magically recreate these workspaces automatically? 

Win 7, 64-bit system.

Thanks all,

TVB

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Upgrading from 9 to 10

2012-03-27 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 27/03/2012 12:32 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> Thank you to Rick and Jeff. For those of you upgrading from 9 to 10 on
> Win 7, 64 bit systems, you copy both the .cfsw and .fws files ...
> TVB
>
> *From:*Jeff Coatsworth [mailto:jeff.coatsworth at jonassoftware.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:45 PM
> *To:* Tammy Van Boening; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> *Subject:* RE: Upgrading from 9 to 10
>
>...  Look for the .cfws and .fws files (not sure what the diff
> is between them).

I'll bet the .fws is the Framemaker Work Space, and the .cfws is the 
Clean Framemaker Work Space that you get if you select Reset Workspace.

Ah, the mysteries of the coder's mind...

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com


FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Rob Shell
Hi Framers:
I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used
more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
coprocessors are working...
Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads
work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
"INCOMPATIBLE" with windows 7.
It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it
after windows 7 was introduced.
The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there
who have the same issues.
Plus, there are some shocking reviews.

Rob Shell
FM9 p255
4 gigs ram quad
3 terabyte drives
OS Windows 7 with every update.


>

Rob Shell
Windows Seven
FrameMaker 9 patched
4 GB RAM
3 TB hd




FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Combs, Richard
Rob Shell wrote:
 I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
> What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never
> used
> more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
> Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
> coprocessors are working...

It means that exactly. FM doesn't use multiple processors. Why does that 
disturb you? 

Many, many apps (even current releases) don't take advantage of multiple 
processors, or of only two (2 or 4 threads). There's little to be gained unless 
you're doing heavy graphics or video work. Your other processors are available 
to the other apps you're running at the same time. 

> Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how
> quads
> work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
> "INCOMPATIBLE" with windows 7.
> It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
> My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to
> fix it
> after windows 7 was introduced.
> The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out
> there
> who have the same issues.

FM 9 was released almost a year before Windows 7. FM 10, released more than a 
year ago, is compatible with Windows 7. But I wouldn't rush to upgrade, because 
FM 11 will likely be announced soon. 

It's unrealistic and unreasonable, IMHO, to expect Adobe to release an FM 9.x 
version that's Windows 7 compatible, or to fix anything other than security 
issues or other serious bugs. 

> Plus, there are some shocking reviews. 

None recent, I'd guess, since it's 3+ years old. 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--








Pagination: Top of Column

2012-03-27 Thread Theresa de Valence
I?m compiling many short, short stories into a book. I?d like the 
heading for the story (author + title) to be positioned in the same 
place on the page.

Previously I had a master page where I had split the body text frame 
into 6 slots (3 high x 2 columns). Setting the Paragraph Tag to 
Pagination: Top of Column worked perfectly putting the author at the top 
of the next available slot.

Because of confusion with bookmarks in the pdf version, I?ve decided to 
reduce the slots to 3 vertical slots. Now the Pagination: Top of Column 
no longer works to move the author to the top of the next body text 
frame. Also the Master Page usage is no longer working properly.

Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help.

Theresa
-- 
===
Theresa de Valence
TdeV at bstw.com
===


FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Roman Banks
Hi Rob,
?
FM9 is compatible with Win7 and I don't see any reason why it runs in WinXP 
compatibility mode on your PC.?Framemaker 9?crashes because it is buggy. I 
would?call it a "beta version of Framemaker with the new interface". When?I 
upgraded to FMv10, all?the stability issues that you describe almost 
disappeared. I?can't say that FMv10 does not crash at all, but it does so very 
rarely.
?
HTH,
Roman

From: Rob Shell <rsh...@iafrica.com>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

Hi Framers:
I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used
more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
coprocessors are working...
Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads
work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
"INCOMPATIBLE" with windows 7.
It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it
after windows 7 was introduced.
The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there
who have the same issues.
Plus, there are some shocking reviews.

Rob Shell
FM9 p255
4 gigs ram quad
3 terabyte drives
OS Windows 7 with every update.


>

Rob Shell
Windows Seven
FrameMaker 9 patched
4 GB RAM
3 TB hd


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Hypertext?

2012-03-27 Thread Theresa de Valence
In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that 
clicking on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be 
created (e.g. TdeV at bstw.com ), but how to do it in 
Frame?

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FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
Win7 32 or 64? I've encountered many compatibility problems with the
latter, would switch to 32 if it wasn't such a pain.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Rob Shell  wrote:
> Hi Framers:
> I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
> What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used
> more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
> Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
> coprocessors are working...
> Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads
> work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
> "INCOMPATIBLE" with windows 7.
> It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
> My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it
> after windows 7 was introduced.
> The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there
> who have the same issues.
> Plus, there are some shocking reviews.
>
> Rob Shell
> FM9 p255
> 4 gigs ram quad
> 3 terabyte drives
> OS Windows 7 with every update.
>
>
>>
>
> Rob Shell
> Windows Seven
> FrameMaker 9 patched
> 4 GB RAM
> 3 TB hd
>
>
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Upgrading from 9 to 10

2012-03-27 Thread Zimmerman, Gary


Looking at the dates on my Workspace files, I would guess that .fws is the 
original you defined, and .cfws is the "customized" or "current" one storing 
the latest changes to the workspace.  Just my guess.



-- garyZ





> -Original Message-

> From: Stuart Rogers

> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:43 AM

> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com

> Subject: Re: Upgrading from 9 to 10

>

> On 27/03/2012 12:32 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

> > Thank you to Rick and Jeff. For those of you upgrading from 9 to 10 on

> > Win 7, 64 bit systems, you copy both the .cfsw and .fws files ...

> > TVB

> >

> > *From:*Jeff Coatsworth [mailto:jeff.coatsworth at 
> > jonassoftware.com]<mailto:[mailto:jeff.coatsworth at jonassoftware.com]>

> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:45 PM

> > *To:* Tammy Van Boening; framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at 
> > lists.frameusers.com>

> > *Subject:* RE: Upgrading from 9 to 10

> >

> >...  Look for the .cfws and .fws files (not sure what the diff

> > is between them).

>

> I'll bet the .fws is the Framemaker Work Space, and the .cfws is the

> Clean Framemaker Work Space that you get if you select Reset Workspace.

>

> Ah, the mysteries of the coder's mind...

>

> --

> Stuart Rogers

> Technical Communicator

> Phoenix Geophysics Limited

> 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3

> Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5

> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

>

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automating FrameMaker 10 + RoboHelp 9 build

2012-03-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
For future reference, with minor changes,
\Samples\ScriptsAndUtilities\Conditional
Text\FM_Outputs_CondText.jsx that comes with FM10 handles step 2. The
rest isn't really relevant to this list.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Robert Lauriston  
wrote:
> I'm looking into automating a time-consuming build process and am
> curious if anyone has done this successfully. I know how to do it
> (I've done similar things in the past with DZbatcher, ANT, etc.), I
> just don't want to start the project if I know that it's not possible,
> or if these are the wrong scripting tools.
>
> 1. Windows batch file: launch FrameMaker from command line and start
> ExtendScript
>
> 2. FrameMaker ExtendScript: open project, set conditional text for
> PDF, update book, save as PDF, set conditional text for online help,
> update book, save
>
> 3. return to batch file, delete the contents of the Web help target
> directory, launch RoboHelp from command line, and start ExtendScript
>
> 4. RoboHelp ExtendScript: open RoboHelp project, update FrameMaker
> source, generate Web help
>
> 5. return to batch file, create .zip file from Web help target
> directory, launch Cygwin and start script
>
> 6. Cygwin script: cvs commit (I know it's possible to kick off a
> Cygwin script at the end of a batch file)


Hypertext?

2012-03-27 Thread Writer
If you only need to output to PDF, I don't think you need to do anything. I ran 
a quick test with FM 9/Acrobat Pro 8, and Acrobat Pro automatically recognized 
the text in the FM file as an email address (although, I can't find how to 
prevent it from doing this). You might want to give the address a character tag 
in FM to make it look like a link.

Nadine




>
> From: Theresa de Valence 
>To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:50:21 PM
>Subject: Hypertext?
> 
>
>In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that clicking 
>on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be created (e.g.? TdeV 
>at bstw.com), but how to do it in Frame?
>
>Thanks,
>Theresa
>
>
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Hypertext?

2012-03-27 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Theresa,



Here is the Hypertext marker syntax that you need:



message URL mailto:rick at frameexpert.com



Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very
much.



Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

*** 585-283-5045 *** NEW NUMBER

rick at frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com







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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Theresa de
Valence
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:50 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Hypertext?



In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that
clicking on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be created
(e.g.  TdeV at bstw.com), but how to do it in Frame?

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Hypertext?

2012-03-27 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Highlight the text in FrameMaker, and put in a hypertext marker as "message URL 
mailto:TdeV at bstw.com" ... this comes out  in the PDF as a clickable link 
that will invoke the default e-mail client compose window to that address.

Z


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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Hypertext?

In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that clicking 
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Hypertext?

2012-03-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
The HyperText syntax is "message URL mailto:...;

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Theresa de Valence  wrote:
> In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that
> clicking on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be created
> (e.g.? TdeV at bstw.com), but how to do it in Frame?


Hypertext?

2012-03-27 Thread Theresa de Valence
On 3/27/2012 5:31 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> Here is the Hypertext marker syntax that you need:
> message URL mailto:rick at frameexpert.com


THANK YOU!