RE: newlinks and gotolinks in Acrobat
Hi Rick, Could it be that FrameMaker uses the character format of the marker to set the destination? If the character format is the same as the paragraph, then the whole paragraph is the destination. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:17 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: newlinks and gotolinks in Acrobat Hello Framers, A client uncovered a problem that I was previously not aware of. If you insert matching newlink and gotolink markers in a document, and you Control+Alt+Click on the gotolink marker, FrameMaker will jump to the newlink marker as you would expect. However, after you make the PDF, the link no longer goes to the location of the named destination created by the newlink marker, but it goes to the named destination of the paragraph containing the marker. In most cases, you won't notice it, but if the paragraph starts on a different page than the marker location, then it becomes a problem. Interestingly, a named destination for the newlink marker is created in the PDF, but the link does not point to that destination; it points to the named destination for the paragraph, which is at the start of the paragraph. Frankly, I am dumbfounded by this behavior. I tested it in FrameMaker 8 and 10 and it works the same. It looks like a case of Adobe trying to help, but for this client, it makes these links unusable in many cases. If you are having trouble visualizing what I am talking about, you can download a sample PDF at http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/LinkTest.pdf or a zip file containing both the FrameMaker file and PDF: http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/LinkTest.zip Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 585-219-8959 fax r...@frameexpert.com http://www.frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Positioning Caption Under Run-in Figure
Depending on settings, a 2-cell table could split across pages. An alternate way is to use a 1-cell table to hold the graphic and set the table title to display. Assign the caption paragraph format to the title and use it to hold the caption. That way the title (caption) always stays with the table cell. Mike Wickham On 5/24/2012 9:03 AM, gr...@hedgewizard.net wrote: I would use a 1-column, 2-cell table to do this. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: newlinks and gotolinks in Acrobat
Rick Quatro wrote: Interestingly, a named destination for the newlink marker is created in the PDF, but the link does not point to that destination; it points to the named destination for the paragraph, which is at the start of the paragraph. Frankly, I am dumbfounded by this behavior. I tested it in FrameMaker 8 and 10 and it works the same. It looks like a case of Adobe trying to help, but for this client, it makes these links unusable in many cases. Is Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs turned on? Grasping at straws, I'd try turning it off to see if that prevents the paragraph from getting its own destination, separate from the newlink destination. For the situations where the paragraph starts on one page and the newlink within it is on another page, one possible workaround is the start a new run-in paragraph at the newlink location. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: newlinks and gotolinks in Acrobat
the start -- to start Need more coffee. :-} Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: newlinks and gotolinks in Acrobat
Hi Richard, I tried this setting both ways and it doesn't make a difference. Thanks for the suggestion. Rick -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:17 AM To: Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: newlinks and gotolinks in Acrobat Rick Quatro wrote: Interestingly, a named destination for the newlink marker is created in the PDF, but the link does not point to that destination; it points to the named destination for the paragraph, which is at the start of the paragraph. Frankly, I am dumbfounded by this behavior. I tested it in FrameMaker 8 and 10 and it works the same. It looks like a case of Adobe trying to help, but for this client, it makes these links unusable in many cases. Is Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs turned on? Grasping at straws, I'd try turning it off to see if that prevents the paragraph from getting its own destination, separate from the newlink destination. For the situations where the paragraph starts on one page and the newlink within it is on another page, one possible workaround is the start a new run-in paragraph at the newlink location. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Positioning Caption Under Run-in Figure
You can set the Orphan rows to 2 so they won't split. Brgds, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson 2012/5/25 Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com Depending on settings, a 2-cell table could split across pages. An alternate way is to use a 1-cell table to hold the graphic and set the table title to display. Assign the caption paragraph format to the title and use it to hold the caption. That way the title (caption) always stays with the table cell. Mike Wickham On 5/24/2012 9:03 AM, gr...@hedgewizard.net wrote: I would use a 1-column, 2-cell table to do this. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bod...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried. -- Gilbert K. Chesterton ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Integrating table footnotes into chapter flow.
On 25/05/2012 12:16 AM, Alan Litchfield wrote: Hi Dan, ... I would change things slightly: 1. By formatting the text you said would be white as red, until proofing stage. Create a paragraph format and call it TblFtntPara. I would set the text to red, then change it the size to be 1pt and white. 2a. In the footnote text, insert a unique marker (sequential numbering or something). 2b. Create a character format and call it something like TblSupScrpt: the format will be superscripted, with all else As is. 2c. Create a cross reference format that displays the footnote number only, and uses the TblSupScrpt format (like thisTablSupScrpt$paranumonly). 2c. Then for the superscripted number to appear in the table, insert a cross reference to the marker in the footnote. The number will appear superscripted, and will be the number of the footnote. Since these are cross references, you will need to run the update to see any changes are effected. I would suggest a refinement. The objective is to have footnote numbers in the body text just before the table, which are visible when editing but do not take up any space and are invisible when printing. These footnote numbers have footnote text at the bottom of the page, and all the numbering of footnotes is automatically sequential. The numbers are faked to appear as though they originate in table cells by cross-referencing to the Footnote paragraphs, in the way that Alan describes above. (I'm not sure what advantage there is to inserting unique markers, Alan? You can just x-ref to the Footnote pgf type and select the appropriate pgf.) To prepare for visible/invisible toggling, View Color Definitions and create a new colour (e.g., TableFN). Then View Color Views and in View 2, move TableFN to the Invisible column. Simply toggle from one view to the other when you alternate between editing and printing. To use that visibility toggling and take up no space, create a tag for dedicated paragraphs that will contain only the table anchor and the footnote reference numbers intended to (re-)appear in the table. This tag should be set to Space Below of a negative value equal to the font size, and font colour TableFN (or whatever you called it). (For usability by the next writer, you might give this tag an Autonumber string of Placeholder for table footnotes or other short explanation.) In Table Designer, set the Space Above to the same negative number you used in Space Below in the anchoring pgf. The combination of negative Space Above/Below will cause the table to overlap the anchoring pgf completely. When editing a table with footnotes, temporarily make the anchoring pgf accessible by changing the table's Space Above to zero. In the anchoring pgf, insert as many Special Footnotes as required by the table, typing the footnote text as usual. Then, in the table cells, insert cross-references to those Footnote pgfs. When you're done, change the table's Space Above back to the negative number and toggle to colour view 2. (PS: I also thought of defining the TableFN colour with the Don't Print setting, but that didn't work -- perhaps it only applies when creating colour separations? I haven't used either feature; maybe someone else can clarify.) -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Better Way to Apply Master Pages?
Richard Combs wrote: The quick and efficient way is to use FM's default Right and Left master pages (for two-sided docs), which are automatically applied to right and left pages that you don't assign a custom master page to. Yes, customizing the default Right master page would help, but only partly. It would have the same effect as applying any custom master page to some group of body pages in the Master Page Usage dialog. I'd still be left with hundreds of body pages to which I would have to apply a custom master page manually. This is a single-sided document, no facing pages. What I think of as running heads are normally implemented via the Running H/F system Yes, my automatic running heads are generated by the Running H/F system. I did try making a book with only this file in it, but the Master Page Maps reference page didn't work--at least not as I expect. I have thought about trying to write a set of running head variables that work out to if you find this heading use it, but if you find this other heading use it instead but that makes my head spin and I don't know how to go about that or if it would even work (there may be two tagged headings on a single page but I would want only one to appear in the running head). Thanks, Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Integrating table footnotes into chapter flow.
H'yall, On 26/05/2012, at 5:14 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote: I would suggest a refinement. The objective is to have footnote numbers in the body text just before the table, which are visible when editing but do not take up any space and are invisible when printing. These footnote numbers have footnote text at the bottom of the page, and all the numbering of footnotes is automatically sequential. The numbers are faked to appear as though they originate in table cells by cross-referencing to the Footnote paragraphs, in the way that Alan describes above. (I'm not sure what advantage there is to inserting unique markers, Alan? You can just x-ref to the Footnote pgf type and select the appropriate pgf.) Yeah, that's a better way. Removes a step. However, still need to update numbering manually. To prepare for visible/invisible toggling, View Color Definitions and create a new colour (e.g., TableFN). Then View Color Views and in View 2, move TableFN to the Invisible column. Simply toggle from one view to the other when you alternate between editing and printing. Still learning FM10-ways :) To use that visibility toggling and take up no space, create a tag for dedicated paragraphs that will contain only the table anchor and the footnote reference numbers intended to (re-)appear in the table. This tag should be set to Space Below of a negative value equal to the font size, and font colour TableFN (or whatever you called it). (For usability by the next writer, you might give this tag an Autonumber string of Placeholder for table footnotes or other short explanation.) In Table Designer, set the Space Above to the same negative number you used in Space Below in the anchoring pgf. The combination of negative Space Above/Below will cause the table to overlap the anchoring pgf completely. When editing a table with footnotes, temporarily make the anchoring pgf accessible by changing the table's Space Above to zero. In the anchoring pgf, insert as many Special Footnotes as required by the table, typing the footnote text as usual. Then, in the table cells, insert cross-references to those Footnote pgfs. When you're done, change the table's Space Above back to the negative number and toggle to colour view 2. I thought about doing it that way, but didn't have time to test it, for example, if there are pagination issues. Glad to see that it would work. Cheers Alan -- AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Better Way to Assign Master Pages?
Bernard Gagne wrote: As I understand it, only paragraph tags in the main flow (body pages) can be used to map Master Pages. Anything in the Headers and Footers is ignored. I thought that's what I was doing: mapping a master page to a paragraph tag in the main flow (that happens to be a heading) so a given master page would be invoked. Then that master page would pick up the proper tag as specified in its running header variable and pop that text into the running head. Guess I'll check my doc again and make sure that's what I actually did. Thanks, Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Better Way to Apply Master Pages?
Karen Robbins wrote: Richard Combs wrote: The quick and efficient way is to use FM's default Right and Left master pages (for two-sided docs), which are automatically applied to right and left pages that you don't assign a custom master page to. Yes, customizing the default Right master page would help, but only partly. It would have the same effect as applying any custom master page to some group of body pages in the Master Page Usage dialog. I'd still be left with hundreds of body pages to which I would have to apply a custom master page manually. This is a single-sided document, no facing pages. Please re-read what I wrote and read about master pages in the help/manual. The whole point of the default Right (for single-sided) or Right and Left (for two-sided) master pages is that the corresponding body pages _default_ to those master pages. You don't need to _apply_ the Right master page -- any page to which you _don't apply_ a custom master page automatically uses the Right master page (in a single-sided doc). I did try making a book with only this file in it, but the Master Page Maps reference page didn't work--at least not as I expect. Have you read the information about master pages and the mapping table in the help/manual? I have thought about trying to write a set of running head variables that work out to if you find this heading use it, but if you find this other heading use it instead but that makes my head spin and I don't know how to go about that or if it would even work (there may be two tagged headings on a single page but I would want only one to appear in the running head). Please re-read what I wrote and read about running headers and footers in the help/manual. The example I showed you is how you tell FM if you find this heading use it, but if you find this other heading use it instead. It works. And as I stated, it's the _first_ heading on the page that appears in the running head. The help/manual has more detail, including explaining how to have the _last_ heading appear (to implement dictionary-style running heads). Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display
I have published a book with Arial TUR displaying correctly with FM 6, including the character you mention. Try adding Arial,186 to [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\FontSubstitutes] Ragnar Hanas, MD Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Gagne Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:07 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Turkish Characters Don't Display Hi Ed, Frame 7.0 didn't support Unicode. As I recall, when we were faced with a similar problem, we had to perform some registry editing to get Frame to see Arial TUR. You'll have to search online for the coding because it's been long enough I've forgotten how we did it. Even there, because Frame allocates certain key codes to internal functions, some letters consistently mapped incorrectly and had to be edited manually. Berny Gagne Sr. Technical Writer Thinkpath Engineering Toronto, Ontario From: Ed Lightle eligh...@commandalkon.com To: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:56:14 AM Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display Rick, I’m still using FrameMaker 7.0. Thanks, Ed From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:55 AM To: Ed Lightle; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display Hi Ed, What version of FrameMaker are you using? FrameMaker 8 and above supports Unicode. If you are using FrameMaker 8 or above, you should use a translator that at least matches your version. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 585-219-8959 fax r...@frameexpert.com http://www.frameexpert.com http://www.frameexpert.com/ From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ed Lightle Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:40 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display Here is some more information from my translator. - FrameMaker 7.1 - Windows Vista Home Premium - Turkish text is being transfered from TTX (Trados) format to MIF. The characters get lost in the transfer. We found a font called Arial TUR for FM. Once we have the text in MIF, we change the font to Arial TUR and it is working. - Destination paragraph style font is Arial TUR. Check and see that you have Arial TUR in your list of fonts for FM. Thanks, Ed Lightle From: Ed Lightle Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:07 AM To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com' Subject: Turkish Characters Don't Display Hello. My translation vendor is using FrameMaker to translate English documents to Turkish. But he has the following problem: I am transferring Turkish text to the FrameMaker file, and I am losing some Turkish characters. For example, the “ğ” in the word “değildir”. Any idea why this is happening? Thanks, Ed Lightle Sr. Technical Writer 614-799-0600 Ext. 5225 Command Alkon 5168 Blazer Parkway | Dublin, Ohio 43017-1339 Tel: +1 (614) 799-6650 Ext. 1222 | www.commandalkon.com http://www.commandalkon.com/ Connect With Us: Facebook http://www.facebook.com/cmdalkon | Twitter http://www.twitter.com/cmdalkon | Google+ http://gplus.to/cmdalkon http://www.facebook.com/cmdalkon Description: Description: Description: facebookicon http://www.twitter.com/cmdalkon Description: Description: Description: twittericon http://gplus.to/cmdalkon Description: Description: Description: googleplusicon ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bernyga...@rogers.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernygagne%40rogers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. image001.pngimage002.pngimage003.png___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
seeking structured application help / developer
Sorry if this is against the rules of the list, but I'm looking for an application developer who can help me with support or troubleshooting an existing structured application and one not yet developed. Is there anyone who does that or can point me in the direction of finding someone? I don't know the protocol for communication about this in terms of sharing email addresses or whatever, I am open to however it works. Thanks, Lisa Radunz ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
XHTML
A choice of case when saving to HTML or xhtml would save effort because the users of xhtml would no longer have to convert the file to lower case. EPUB also uses lower case. Robert C. Leif, Ph.D. Newport Instruments, XML_Med division. rl...@rleif.com www.CytometryML.org ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Better Way to Assign Master Pages?
Hi Karen, As I understand it, only paragraph tags in the main flow (body pages) can be used to map Master Pages. Anything in the Headers and Footers is ignored. If that is what you are trying to do, then you will need to change your tactics. Try mapping to the paragraph tags used for the runing head text instead. You are using variables, right? Best regards, Berny Gagne Sr. Technical Writer Thinkpath Engineering Toronto, Ontario From: Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:06:59 PM Subject: Better Way to Assign Master Pages? Hello Framers, Is there in Frame 9 a quick (or at least efficient) way of assigning a master page to multiple body pages at once? I am dumping text from one Frame doc into another that is essentially a galley proof--one text frame with changing running heads based half on heading tags and half on other content. Applying a master page to a range of body pages (or all pages) in the Master Page Usage dialog would take care of only a portion of my document at best, since the running heads often change every page and often are not consecutive. I tried mapping a master page to a heading tag in the Master Page Maps reference page, but that doesn't seem to work: once I manually apply a master page, the reference page setting for until changed appears to function, but the master associated with the heading isn't being applied automatically in the first place. Maybe I don't understand the operation of the Master Page Maps table? I am wishing for something like QuarkXPress' Page Layout palette, where one can click-and-drag a master page icon onto a page or group of page icons to apply. Hope I've just forgotten something simple--very possible since I only do this project once a year. I don't look forward to applying master pages manually hundreds of times. Thanks, Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bernyga...@rogers.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernygagne%40rogers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
"FrameMaker can't create new file for writing" Response to Robert Lauriston
Thanks Robert for asking. No network drive or CD operations. I was exiting the program and trying to save the files in their normal places on my hard drive. The files seemed to have been saved. Rob Shell Windows Seven FrameMaker 9 patched 4 GB RAM 3 TB hd
Integrating table footnotes into chapter flow.
Hi Dan, I feel your pain, having been there, done that. I figure the demand arises because there is a certain, single word processor that does it that way, albeit that this way is not correct. Organising the footnote numbering sequence is not much of an issue. This is part of the numbering control at the book level (assuming you are using a book file). FM footnotes typically appear at the bottom of the page (it is normally demands for end notes that get people worked up). The only effective work around I was able to muster was to use tab delimited text, but that meant no table rules. I made paragraph formats with appropriately positioned tabs. In the case I refer to, few entries wrapped and those that did were able to be positioned at the end of the line. What you have described sounds the best option. At least in this instance, if the numbering changes, you can control it. I would change things slightly: 1. By formatting the text you said would be white as red, until proofing stage. Create a paragraph format and call it TblFtntPara. I would set the text to red, then change it the size to be 1pt and white. 2a. In the footnote text, insert a unique marker (sequential numbering or something). 2b. Create a character format and call it something like TblSupScrpt: the format will be superscripted, with all else "As is". 2c. Create a cross reference format that displays the footnote number only, and uses the TblSupScrpt format (like this <$paranumonly>). 2c. Then for the superscripted number to appear in the table, insert a cross reference to the marker in the footnote. The number will appear superscripted, and will be the number of the footnote. Since these are cross references, you will need to run the update to see any changes are effected. Alan On 25/05/2012, at 3:01 AM, Harding, Dan wrote: > Good morning, > > I have a book where the powers that be want ALL footnotes to be part of the > same numbering sequence and appear at the bottom of pages? even footnotes > whose references appear in tables. Since by default footnotes within a table > are placed immediately below the table and have their own > lettering/numbering, How do I accomplish this? > > The only way that I?m aware of is a hack/kludge that almost makes things > worse: Within tables place superscripted text that mimics a footnote > reference, and then immediately above or below the table, place the real > footnote, with the reference tagged in white so it is invisible when printing. > > I hate it, and presents a royal fustercluck if any footnotes are added or > removed within the chapter. > > Is there a workable fix? -- AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice
newlinks and gotolinks in Acrobat
Hi Rick, Could it be that FrameMaker uses the character format of the marker to set the destination? If the character format is the same as the paragraph, then the whole paragraph is the destination. Best regards Winfried > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:17 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: newlinks and gotolinks in Acrobat > > Hello Framers, > > A client uncovered a problem that I was previously not aware of. If you > insert matching newlink and gotolink markers in a document, and you > Control+Alt+Click on the gotolink marker, FrameMaker will jump to the > newlink marker as you would expect. However, after you make the PDF, the > link no longer goes to the location of the named destination created by the > newlink marker, but it goes to the named destination of the paragraph > containing the marker. In most cases, you won't notice it, but if the > paragraph starts on a different page than the marker location, then it > becomes a problem. > > Interestingly, a named destination for the newlink marker is created in the > PDF, but the link does not point to that destination; it points to the named > destination for the paragraph, which is at the start of the paragraph. > > Frankly, I am dumbfounded by this behavior. I tested it in FrameMaker 8 and > 10 and it works the same. It looks like a case of Adobe trying to "help", > but for this client, it makes these links unusable in many cases. > > If you are having trouble visualizing what I am talking about, you can > download a sample PDF at > > http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/LinkTest.pdf > > or a zip file containing both the FrameMaker file and PDF: > > http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/LinkTest.zip > > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing Inc. > 585-283-5045 > 585-219-8959 fax > rick at frameexpert.com > http://www.frameexpert.com
Positioning Caption Under Run-in Figure
Depending on settings, a 2-cell table could split across pages. An alternate way is to use a 1-cell table to hold the graphic and set the table title to display. Assign the caption paragraph format to the title and use it to hold the caption. That way the title (caption) always stays with the table cell. Mike Wickham On 5/24/2012 9:03 AM, grant at hedgewizard.net wrote: > > I would use a 1-column, 2-cell table to do this. > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120525/1e7ad8ad/attachment.html>
newlinks and gotolinks in Acrobat
Rick Quatro wrote: > Interestingly, a named destination for the newlink marker is created in > the > PDF, but the link does not point to that destination; it points to the > named > destination for the paragraph, which is at the start of the paragraph. > > Frankly, I am dumbfounded by this behavior. I tested it in FrameMaker 8 > and > 10 and it works the same. It looks like a case of Adobe trying to > "help", > but for this client, it makes these links unusable in many cases. Is Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs turned on? Grasping at straws, I'd try turning it off to see if that prevents the paragraph from getting its own destination, separate from the newlink destination. For the situations where the paragraph starts on one page and the newlink within it is on another page, one possible workaround is the start a new run-in paragraph at the newlink location. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
newlinks and gotolinks in Acrobat
"the start" --> "to start" Need more coffee. :-} Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
newlinks and gotolinks in Acrobat
Hi Richard, I tried this setting both ways and it doesn't make a difference. Thanks for the suggestion. Rick -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:17 AM To: Rick Quatro; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: newlinks and gotolinks in Acrobat Rick Quatro wrote: > Interestingly, a named destination for the newlink marker is created > in the PDF, but the link does not point to that destination; it points > to the named destination for the paragraph, which is at the start of > the paragraph. > > Frankly, I am dumbfounded by this behavior. I tested it in FrameMaker > 8 and > 10 and it works the same. It looks like a case of Adobe trying to > "help", but for this client, it makes these links unusable in many > cases. Is Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs turned on? Grasping at straws, I'd try turning it off to see if that prevents the paragraph from getting its own destination, separate from the newlink destination. For the situations where the paragraph starts on one page and the newlink within it is on another page, one possible workaround is the start a new run-in paragraph at the newlink location. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
Positioning Caption Under Run-in Figure
You can set the Orphan rows to 2 so they won't split. Brgds, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson 2012/5/25 Mike Wickham > Depending on settings, a 2-cell table could split across pages. An > alternate way is to use a 1-cell table to hold the graphic and set the > table title to display. Assign the caption paragraph format to the title > and use it to hold the caption. That way the title (caption) always stays > with the table cell. > > Mike Wickham > > > On 5/24/2012 9:03 AM, grant at hedgewizard.net wrote: > > I would use a 1-column, 2-cell table to do this. > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as bodvar at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried. -- Gilbert K. Chesterton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120525/99a38360/attachment.html>
Integrating table footnotes into chapter flow.
On 25/05/2012 12:16 AM, Alan Litchfield wrote: > Hi Dan, > ... > I would change things slightly: 1. By formatting the text you said > would be white as red, until proofing stage. Create a paragraph > format and call it TblFtntPara. I would set the text to red, then > change it the size to be 1pt and white. 2a. In the footnote text, > insert a unique marker (sequential numbering or something). 2b. > Create a character format and call it something like TblSupScrpt: the > format will be superscripted, with all else "As is". 2c. Create a > cross reference format that displays the footnote number only, and > uses the TblSupScrpt format (like this<$paranumonly>). > 2c. Then for the superscripted number to appear in the table, insert > a cross reference to the marker in the footnote. The number will > appear superscripted, and will be the number of the footnote. > > Since these are cross references, you will need to run the update to > see any changes are effected. I would suggest a refinement. The objective is to have footnote numbers in the body text just before the table, which are visible when editing but do not take up any space and are invisible when printing. These footnote numbers have footnote text at the bottom of the page, and all the numbering of footnotes is automatically sequential. The numbers are "faked" to appear as though they originate in table cells by cross-referencing to the Footnote paragraphs, in the way that Alan describes above. (I'm not sure what advantage there is to inserting unique markers, Alan? You can just x-ref to the Footnote pgf type and select the appropriate pgf.) To prepare for visible/invisible toggling, View > Color > Definitions and create a new colour (e.g., TableFN). Then View > Color > Views and in View 2, move TableFN to the Invisible column. Simply toggle from one view to the other when you alternate between editing and printing. To use that visibility toggling and take up no space, create a tag for dedicated paragraphs that will contain only the table anchor and the footnote reference numbers intended to (re-)appear in the table. This tag should be set to Space Below of a negative value equal to the font size, and font colour TableFN (or whatever you called it). (For usability by the next writer, you might give this tag an Autonumber string of "Placeholder for table footnotes" or other short explanation.) In Table Designer, set the Space Above to the same negative number you used in Space Below in the anchoring pgf. The combination of negative Space Above/Below will cause the table to overlap the anchoring pgf completely. When editing a table with footnotes, temporarily make the anchoring pgf accessible by changing the table's Space Above to zero. In the anchoring pgf, insert as many Special > Footnotes as required by the table, typing the footnote text as usual. Then, in the table cells, insert cross-references to those Footnote pgfs. When you're done, change the table's Space Above back to the negative number and toggle to colour view 2. (PS: I also thought of defining the TableFN colour with the Don't Print setting, but that didn't work -- perhaps it only applies when creating colour separations? I haven't used either feature; maybe someone else can clarify.) -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
Better Way to Apply Master Pages?
Richard Combs wrote: >The quick and efficient way is to use FM's default Right and Left >master pages (for two-sided docs), which are automatically applied >to right and left pages that you don't assign a custom master page >to. Yes, customizing the default Right master page would help, but only partly. It would have the same effect as applying any custom master page to some group of body pages in the Master Page Usage dialog. I'd still be left with hundreds of body pages to which I would have to apply a custom master page manually. This is a single-sided document, no facing pages. >What I think of as running heads are normally implemented via the >Running H/F system Yes, my automatic running heads are generated by the Running H/F system. I did try making a book with only this file in it, but the Master Page Maps reference page didn't work--at least not as I expect. I have thought about trying to write a set of running head variables that work out to "if you find this heading use it, but if you find this other heading use it instead" but that makes my head spin and I don't know how to go about that or if it would even work (there may be two tagged headings on a single page but I would want only one to appear in the running head). Thanks, Karen
Better Way to Assign Master Pages?
Bernard Gagne wrote: >As I understand it, only paragraph tags in the main flow (body >pages) can be used to map Master Pages. Anything in the Headers and >Footers is ignored. I thought that's what I was doing: mapping a master page to a paragraph tag in the main flow (that happens to be a heading) so a given master page would be invoked. Then that master page would pick up the proper tag as specified in its running header variable and pop that text into the running head. Guess I'll check my doc again and make sure that's what I actually did. Thanks, Karen
Better Way to Apply Master Pages?
Karen Robbins wrote: > Richard Combs wrote: > > >The quick and efficient way is to use FM's default Right and Left > >master pages (for two-sided docs), which are automatically applied > >to right and left pages that you don't assign a custom master page > >to. > > Yes, customizing the default Right master page would help, but only > partly. It would have the same effect as applying any custom master > page to some group of body pages in the Master Page Usage dialog. I'd > still be left with hundreds of body pages to which I would have to > apply a custom master page manually. This is a single-sided document, > no facing pages. Please re-read what I wrote and read about master pages in the help/manual. The whole point of the default Right (for single-sided) or Right and Left (for two-sided) master pages is that the corresponding body pages _default_ to those master pages. You don't need to _apply_ the Right master page -- any page to which you _don't apply_ a custom master page automatically uses the Right master page (in a single-sided doc). > I did try making a book with only this file in it, but the Master > Page Maps reference page didn't work--at least not as I expect. Have you read the information about master pages and the mapping table in the help/manual? > I have thought about trying to write a set of running head variables > that work out to "if you find this heading use it, but if you find > this other heading use it instead" but that makes my head spin and I > don't know how to go about that or if it would even work (there may > be two tagged headings on a single page but I would want only one to > appear in the running head). Please re-read what I wrote and read about running headers and footers in the help/manual. The example I showed you is how you tell FM "if you find this heading use it, but if you find this other heading use it instead." It works. And as I stated, it's the _first_ heading on the page that appears in the running head. The help/manual has more detail, including explaining how to have the _last_ heading appear (to implement dictionary-style running heads). Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
Turkish Characters Don't Display
I have published a book with Arial TUR displaying correctly with FM 6, including the character you mention. Try adding "Arial,186" to [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\FontSubstitutes] Ragnar Hanas, MD Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Gagne Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:07 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Turkish Characters Don't Display Hi Ed, Frame 7.0 didn't support Unicode. As I recall, when we were faced with a similar problem, we had to perform some registry editing to get Frame to see Arial TUR. You'll have to search online for the coding because it's been long enough I've forgotten how we did it. Even there, because Frame allocates certain key codes to internal functions, some letters consistently mapped incorrectly and had to be edited manually. Berny Gagne Sr. Technical Writer Thinkpath Engineering Toronto, Ontario From: Ed Lightle <eligh...@commandalkon.com> To: Rick Quatro ; "framers at lists.frameusers.com" Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:56:14 AM Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display Rick, I?m still using FrameMaker 7.0. Thanks, Ed From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:55 AM To: Ed Lightle; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display Hi Ed, What version of FrameMaker are you using? FrameMaker 8 and above supports Unicode. If you are using FrameMaker 8 or above, you should use a translator that at least matches your version. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 585-219-8959 fax rick at frameexpert.com http://www.frameexpert.com <http://www.frameexpert.com/> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ed Lightle Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:40 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Turkish Characters Don't Display Here is some more information from my translator. - FrameMaker 7.1 - Windows Vista Home Premium - Turkish text is being transfered from TTX (Trados) format to MIF. The characters get lost in the transfer. We found a font called Arial TUR for FM. Once we have the text in MIF, we change the font to Arial TUR and it is working. - Destination paragraph style font is Arial TUR. Check and see that you have Arial TUR in your list of fonts for FM. Thanks, Ed Lightle From: Ed Lightle Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:07 AM To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com' Subject: Turkish Characters Don't Display Hello. My translation vendor is using FrameMaker to translate English documents to Turkish. But he has the following problem: I am transferring Turkish text to the FrameMaker file, and I am losing some Turkish characters. For example, the ??? in the word ?de?ildir?. Any idea why this is happening? Thanks, Ed Lightle Sr. Technical Writer 614-799-0600 Ext. 5225 Command Alkon 5168 Blazer Parkway | Dublin, Ohio 43017-1339 Tel: +1 (614) 799-6650 Ext. 1222 | www.commandalkon.com <http://www.commandalkon.com/> Connect With Us: Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/cmdalkon> | Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/cmdalkon> | Google+ <http://gplus.to/cmdalkon> <http://www.facebook.com/cmdalkon> Description: Description: Description: facebookicon <http://www.twitter.com/cmdalkon> Description: Description: Description: twittericon <http://gplus.to/cmdalkon> Description: Description: Description: googleplusicon ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bernygagne at rogers.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernygagne%40rogers.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120525/cf45fe84/attachment.html> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 1611 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120525/cf45fe84/attachment.png> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 1503 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120525/cf45fe84/attachment-0001.png> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/p
seeking structured application help / developer
Sorry if this is against the "rules" of the list, but I'm looking for an application developer who can help me with support or troubleshooting an existing structured application and one not yet developed. Is there anyone who does that or can point me in the direction of finding someone? I don't know the protocol for communication about this in terms of sharing email addresses or whatever, I am open to however it works. Thanks, Lisa Radunz
XHTML
A choice of case when saving to HTML or xhtml would save effort because the users of xhtml would no longer have to convert the file to lower case. EPUB also uses lower case. Robert C. Leif, Ph.D. Newport Instruments, XML_Med division. rleif at rleif.com www.CytometryML.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120525/068a5ddc/attachment.html>
Better Way to Assign Master Pages?
Hi Karen, As I understand it, only paragraph tags in the main flow (body pages) can be used to map Master Pages. Anything in the Headers and Footers is ignored. If that is what you are trying to do, then you will need to change your tactics. Try mapping to the paragraph tags used for the runing head text instead. You are using variables, right? Best regards, ? Berny Gagne Sr. Technical Writer Thinkpath Engineering Toronto, Ontario From: Karen Robbins <karendes...@gmail.com> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:06:59 PM Subject: Better Way to Assign Master Pages? Hello Framers, Is there in Frame 9 a quick (or at least efficient) way of assigning a master page to multiple body pages at once? I am dumping text from one Frame doc into another that is essentially a galley proof--one text frame with changing running heads based half on heading tags and half on other content. Applying a master page to a range of body pages (or all pages) in the Master Page Usage dialog would take care of only a portion of my document at best, since the running heads often change every page and often are not consecutive. I tried mapping a master page to a heading tag in the Master Page Maps reference page, but that doesn't seem to work: once I manually apply a master page, the reference page setting for "until changed" appears to function, but the master associated with the heading isn't being applied automatically in the first place. Maybe I don't understand the operation of the Master Page Maps table? I am wishing for something like QuarkXPress' Page Layout palette, where one can click-and-drag a master page icon onto a page or group of page icons to apply. Hope I've just forgotten something simple--very possible since I only do this project once a year. I don't look forward to applying master pages manually hundreds of times. Thanks, Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bernygagne at rogers.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernygagne%40rogers.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120525/3460c88b/attachment.html>
