Text reflows when converting to PDF
Hi Framers, In one file (so far) of a Frame 9 book, a page has text wrapping around a photo. I create a .ps file using Adobe PDF printer. In the PDF generated from that .ps file through Distiller 9, the text rebreaks so that words are improperly broken and reflow (not to mention they look terrible). Since my source file looks correct, I don't know what to change. Problem should be the fonts themselves--current OpenType fonts from Adobe. My settings, fonts, even image in question are the same as in previous iterations of this project, which converted without this problem. What can I do to fix it? Thanks, Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text reflows when converting to PDF
Does this help? http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2010-May/020148.html Nadine From: Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:30:26 PM Subject: Text reflows when converting to PDF Hi Framers, In one file (so far) of a Frame 9 book, a page has text wrapping around a photo. I create a .ps file using Adobe PDF printer. In the PDF generated from that .ps file through Distiller 9, the text rebreaks so that words are improperly broken and reflow (not to mention they look terrible). Since my source file looks correct, I don't know what to change. Problem should be the fonts themselves--current OpenType fonts from Adobe. My settings, fonts, even image in question are the same as in previous iterations of this project, which converted without this problem. What can I do to fix it? Thanks, Karen ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text reflows when converting to PDF
Tom Magnus suggested confirming this, but yes, Frame's printer is set to Adobe PDF when printing to .ps. Per the thread noted below, DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics is set to ON in the default maker.ini file. I don't quite understand the file note for that setting--what I see on-screen is the same as what prints on my local printer but not the same as what appears in the PDF. I can only find one maker.ini file, in the Adobe folder; where is that second one? I can't find a C:\Documents and Settings\~\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\X.0 or similar. Sorry, I'm a Mac person; digging around in the bowels of Windows (7) always scares me :-). Thanks, Karen At 4:55 PM -0700 6/29/12, Writer wrote: Does this help? http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2010-May/020148.html Nadine From: Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:30:26 PM Subject: Text reflows when converting to PDF Hi Framers, In one file (so far) of a Frame 9 book, a page has text wrapping around a photo. I create a .ps file using Adobe PDF printer. In the PDF generated from that .ps file through Distiller 9, the text rebreaks so that words are improperly broken and reflow (not to mention they look terrible). Since my source file looks correct, I don't know what to change. Problem should be the fonts themselves--current OpenType fonts from Adobe. My settings, fonts, even image in question are the same as in previous iterations of this project, which converted without this problem. What can I do to fix it? Thanks, Karen___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text reflows when converting to PDF
Per the thread noted below, DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics is set to ON in the default maker.ini file. I don't quite understand the file note for that setting A printer can print fonts at 1200 dpi. The monitor is typically around 96 ppi. So FrameMaker can't display the characters in the perfect location on screen. It can place the characters in a way that makes them best fit the pixels on screen (DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=Off). Character spacing will be neater this way, but it may make the line lengths appear incorrectly. If your text is justified, you may actually see lines of text that extend beyond the right-hand border of the text box on screen (but not when you print). If your text is set ragged right, you may not notice the problem. Or, FrameMaker can space the characters in a way that more closely resembles where the printer will place them (DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=On). The line lengths will be right, but the kerning between characters (again, on screen only) will be a bit off to make that happen. It's your choice. I think the program default has the setting set to Off, but most people probably set it to On. what I see on-screen is the same as what prints on my local printer but not the same as what appears in the PDF. I think that's the hint to the source of your problem. You are probably using printer-resident fonts. Printers come with hard-wired fonts. The printer driver lets programs like FrameMaker see those fonts, display them as choices in font dropdown menus, display them on screen, and print them correctly to the local printer where the fonts are resident. But the fonts are not actually installed on the computer. So when you create a PDF, Acrobat cannot embed the fonts, and must substitute something else. The results are sometimes not noticeable. Other times, they are horrendous. To see if this is the case, look in your Windows\Fonts folder to see if the fonts are actually installed. If not, the solution is to install the fonts on the computer. The installation disk that comes with the printer should have the fonts on it, available for manual installation on the computer. Simply find the fonts and follow the proper installation procedure for your version of Windows. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Searching the archive
Hi I suggest you send your reply to the list. :) Regards Alan On 29/06/12 3:16 AM, Jay Mahler wrote: > Thanks Alan. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the discussion that I > needed. I guess I just couldn't come up with the correct search string. > > Here's my issue... > > Using FM10 as part of TCS 3.5 > Win 7 > > I'm creating very large, detailed, programmer-level documentation. It > seems best to include some material in more than one location in the > manual. Of course, I want single-source. Because of the different > heading levels at which the material will appear, it seems best to > insert these snippets as FM files within the two or three relevant > chapters. Just including the snippet files in the book doesn't work well > in this scenario, so I was thinking of using text inserts of FM files > within the chapter files. > > The problem that I'm having is setting up cross-references and indexes > within these snippet inserts. I'd also like to use newlink markers in > the snippets and have gotolink markers reference the correct location > where a snippet appears. I'm using gotolink because I want the reader of > the PDF to be able to jump to the reference without having actual > cross-reference text inserted. > > I know that I'm asking for a lot here. Does anyone have suggestions for > one or more of these issues? > > Jay > > -Original Message- > From: Alan T Litchfield [mailto:alan at alphabyte.co.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:00 PM > To: Jay Mahler > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Searching the archive > > The archives are here: > http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/ > > Use Google to search the archives like this (say you want to find post > that include the word virtualbox): > site:lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers virtualbox > > This gives something like: > http://bit.ly/KEyxcS > > HIH > Alan > > On 28/06/12 6:05 AM, Jay Mahler wrote: >> Framers, >> >> I mostly just lurk here, but I need to find an answer to a question >> that I know has been discussed. Unfortunately, I can't find how to >> search old posts or archives. What am I missing? >> >> Jay Mahler >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as alan at alphabyte.co.nz. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.c >> o.nz >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > > -- > AlphaByte > PO Box 1941, Auckland > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz > -- AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
Text reflows when converting to PDF
Hi Framers, In one file (so far) of a Frame 9 book, a page has text wrapping around a photo. I create a .ps file using Adobe PDF printer. In the PDF generated from that .ps file through Distiller 9, the text rebreaks so that words are improperly broken and reflow (not to mention they look terrible). Since my source file looks correct, I don't know what to change. Problem should be the fonts themselves--current OpenType fonts from Adobe. My settings, fonts, even image in question are the same as in previous iterations of this project, which converted without this problem. What can I do to fix it? Thanks, Karen
Text reflows when converting to PDF
Does this help? http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2010-May/020148.html Nadine > > From: Karen Robbins >To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:30:26 PM >Subject: Text reflows when converting to PDF > >Hi Framers, > >In one file (so far) of a Frame 9 book, a page has text wrapping around a >photo. I create a .ps file using Adobe PDF printer. In the PDF generated from >that .ps file through Distiller 9, the text rebreaks so that words are >improperly broken and reflow (not to mention they look terrible). Since my >source file looks correct, I don't know what to change. Problem should be the >fonts themselves--current OpenType fonts from Adobe. My settings, fonts, even >image in question are the same as in previous iterations of this project, >which converted without this problem. > >What can I do to fix it? > >Thanks, >Karen > >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120629/70a4986d/attachment.html>
Text reflows when converting to PDF
Tom Magnus suggested confirming this, but yes, Frame's printer is set to Adobe PDF when printing to .ps. Per the thread noted below, DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics is set to ON in the default maker.ini file. I don't quite understand the file note for that setting--what I see on-screen is the same as what prints on my local printer but not the same as what appears in the PDF. I can only find one maker.ini file, in the Adobe folder; where is that second one? I can't find a "C:\Documents and Settings\~\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\X.0" or similar. Sorry, I'm a Mac person; digging around in the bowels of Windows (7) always scares me :-). Thanks, Karen At 4:55 PM -0700 6/29/12, Writer wrote: >Does this help? >http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2010-May/020148.html > >Nadine > > > >From: Karen Robbins >To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:30:26 PM >Subject: Text reflows when converting to PDF > > >Hi Framers, > >In one file (so far) of a Frame 9 book, a page has text wrapping >around a photo. I create a .ps file using Adobe PDF printer. In the >PDF generated from that .ps file through Distiller 9, the text >rebreaks so that words are improperly broken and reflow (not to >mention they look terrible). Since my source file looks correct, I >don't know what to change. Problem should be the fonts >themselves--current OpenType fonts from Adobe. My settings, fonts, >even image in question are the same as in previous iterations of >this project, which converted without this problem. > >What can I do to fix it? > >Thanks, >Karen -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120629/07b713fd/attachment.html>
Text reflows when converting to PDF
> Per the thread noted below, DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics is set to ON in > the default maker.ini file. I don't quite understand the file note for > that setting > A printer can print fonts at 1200 dpi. The monitor is typically around 96 ppi. So FrameMaker can't display the characters in the perfect location on screen. It can place the characters in a way that makes them best fit the pixels on screen (DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=Off). Character spacing will be neater this way, but it may make the line lengths appear incorrectly. If your text is justified, you may actually see lines of text that extend beyond the right-hand border of the text box on screen (but not when you print). If your text is set ragged right, you may not notice the problem. Or, FrameMaker can space the characters in a way that more closely resembles where the printer will place them (DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=On). The line lengths will be right, but the kerning between characters (again, on screen only) will be a bit off to make that happen. It's your choice. I think the program default has the setting set to Off, but most people probably set it to On. > what I see on-screen is the same as what prints on my local printer > but not the same as what appears in the PDF. > I think that's the hint to the source of your problem. You are probably using printer-resident fonts. Printers come with hard-wired fonts. The printer driver lets programs like FrameMaker see those fonts, display them as choices in font dropdown menus, display them on screen, and print them correctly to the local printer where the fonts are resident. But the fonts are not actually installed on the computer. So when you create a PDF, Acrobat cannot embed the fonts, and must substitute something else. The results are sometimes not noticeable. Other times, they are horrendous. To see if this is the case, look in your Windows\Fonts folder to see if the fonts are actually installed. If not, the solution is to install the fonts on the computer. The installation disk that comes with the printer should have the fonts on it, available for manual installation on the computer. Simply find the fonts and follow the proper installation procedure for your version of Windows. Mike Wickham
