Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster
Thanks, Jeff Yes, it is PDF production only. I have yet to single-source all these thousands of pages (lone writer here). I think e-mail is the most sensible thing to do. Jack - Original Message - From: Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com To: framers framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:22:27 AM Subject: RE: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster You don't mention what format your help docs are produced in, but the implication is that it's PDF - I'd be inclined to encourage the typo-finder to copy paste the offending section into an e-mail fire it off to you for it to be fixed; that sounds like the quickest way. The other alternative is to use the commenting/review feature in PDFs to have them add their 2 cents worth and fire back the whole thing for you to import back into FM. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of jackdel...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:59 AM To: framers Subject: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster Hello, Framers - My QA guy has a problem with chasing minor typos in our docs: it takes longer to document the typo than it does to fix it. He wants a solution that bypasses the need for FrameMaker, and has read an article that says Word 2013 will allow editing of PDFs in native format. He wants the developers to be able to do this to my docs. I’ve explained all the many problems with using Word, but he is still searching for an answer, which means I am too. What is your solution to the problem he sees? To me, it should be a non-problem, i.e., typos should not exist anyway, and the developers should not be allowed anywhere near my “source”, but the reality is that he has more say in it than I (he is also scrummaster). Thanks Jack DeLand ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jackdel...@comcast.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jackdeland%40comcast.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster
Depends on the output! :) - Original Message - From: Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com To: framers framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:35:01 AM Subject: RE: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster If all your content is in FM, then you're already single-sourcing it you know ;) From: jackdel...@comcast.net [mailto:jackdel...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:27 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Cc: framers Subject: Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster Thanks, Jeff Yes, it is PDF production only. I have yet to single-source all these thousands of pages (lone writer here). I think e-mail is the most sensible thing to do. Jack - Original Message - From: Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com To: framers framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:22:27 AM Subject: RE: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster You don't mention what format your help docs are produced in, but the implication is that it's PDF - I'd be inclined to encourage the typo-finder to copy paste the offending section into an e-mail fire it off to you for it to be fixed; that sounds like the quickest way. The other alternative is to use the commenting/review feature in PDFs to have them add their 2 cents worth and fire back the whole thing for you to import back into FM. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of jackdel...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:59 AM To: framers Subject: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster Hello, Framers - My QA guy has a problem with chasing minor typos in our docs: it takes longer to document the typo than it does to fix it. He wants a solution that bypasses the need for FrameMaker, and has read an article that says Word 2013 will allow editing of PDFs in native format. He wants the developers to be able to do this to my docs. I’ve explained all the many problems with using Word, but he is still searching for an answer, which means I am too. What is your solution to the problem he sees? To me, it should be a non-problem, i.e., typos should not exist anyway, and the developers should not be allowed anywhere near my “source”, but the reality is that he has more say in it than I (he is also scrummaster). Thanks Jack DeLand ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jackdel...@comcast.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jackdeland%40comcast.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jackdel...@comcast.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jackdeland%40comcast.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster
I think #2 would be the most convincing for him. We are big on security. Jack - Original Message - From: Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com To: jackdel...@comcast.net Cc: framers framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:42:01 AM Subject: Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster Well, let's see, off the top of my head: 1. Word2013 isn't available yet, so it's going to be hard for your developers to make use of it anytime soon. Not only that, but according to one article, it won't work on any OS prior to Windows 7. 2. From the article I saw on PCWorld, when it IS available, you've got the issue with it defaulting to saving out to Microsoft's Skydrive--does your scrum master, much less your company, really want to put its IP out in the cloud? Particularly a cloud they don't control? I've seen no mention (so far, but admittedly I haven't been looking) that Microsoft has addressed the corporate customer's need for security and IP control and the likelihood that they'll want to keep things on their own storage network. 3. Tell him you'll let him and his developers edit your source when he lets you edit theirs. ;-) 4. Point out to him that each profession has specialized tools to make things easier and more efficient, and ask him if he thinks correcting some minor typos is worth handicapping you. Tell him that his trying to get you to work in Word rather than Frame is like you telling him that his developers should all be working in Notepad rather than in an IDE. OK, #3 is a bit snarky, so unless you know him really well, I wouldn't try it. My bet is on #4, but I'm betting there are others on this list who can give you more cogent arguments. Good luck with it. (As an aside, what IS it with people who don't work as writers trying to tell writers what tools they should be using?) On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM, jackdel...@comcast.net wrote: Hello, Framers - My QA guy has a problem with chasing minor typos in our docs: it takes longer to document the typo than it does to fix it. He wants a solution that bypasses the need for FrameMaker, and has read an article that says Word 2013 will allow editing of PDFs in native format. He wants the developers to be able to do this to my docs. I’ve explained all the many problems with using Word, but he is still searching for an answer, which means I am too. What is your solution to the problem he sees? To me, it should be a non-problem, i.e., typos should not exist anyway, and the developers should not be allowed anywhere near my “source”, but the reality is that he has more say in it than I (he is also scrummaster). Thanks Jack DeLand ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster
Your expert can already edit your docs in pdf if he has the full Adobe Acrobat Pro Extended. Or even with Reader if you enable commenting in your pdf. The tools are pretty good. Maybe he just needs some education in how to use them. The real issue is whether you want to allow others to make changes to your document. If they can make changes, those changes should be identified by content, date, and author, so you have some traceback. Otherwise, you'll have to run pdf comparisons all over the place. My pet peeve in this regard is experts who have their own pet ways of spelling certain words, and anything else, even standard English usage, is a typo. I worked for one guy once whose wife was an editor, and he insisted that I insert double spaces after the period at the end of every sentence. Anything else, he insisted, was a typo. FWIW, Marguerite From: Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com To: jackdel...@comcast.net Cc: framers framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster To be fair, you CAN save it elsewhere, and it's probable that you can set the options to a different default. But Microsoft making their cloud the default out of the box kinda worries me. On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:06 AM, jackdel...@comcast.net wrote: I think #2 would be the most convincing for him. We are big on security. Jack From: Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com To: jackdel...@comcast.net Cc: framers framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:42:01 AM Subject: Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster Well, let's see, off the top of my head: 1. Word2013 isn't available yet, so it's going to be hard for your developers to make use of it anytime soon. Not only that, but according to one article, it won't work on any OS prior to Windows 7. 2. From the article I saw on PCWorld, when it IS available, you've got the issue with it defaulting to saving out to Microsoft's Skydrive--does your scrum master, much less your company, really want to put its IP out in the cloud? Particularly a cloud they don't control? I've seen no mention (so far, but admittedly I haven't been looking) that Microsoft has addressed the corporate customer's need for security and IP control and the likelihood that they'll want to keep things on their own storage network. 3. Tell him you'll let him and his developers edit your source when he lets you edit theirs. ;-) 4. Point out to him that each profession has specialized tools to make things easier and more efficient, and ask him if he thinks correcting some minor typos is worth handicapping you. Tell him that his trying to get you to work in Word rather than Frame is like you telling him that his developers should all be working in Notepad rather than in an IDE. OK, #3 is a bit snarky, so unless you know him really well, I wouldn't try it. My bet is on #4, but I'm betting there are others on this list who can give you more cogent arguments. Good luck with it. (As an aside, what IS it with people who don't work as writers trying to tell writers what tools they should be using?) On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM, jackdel...@comcast.net wrote: Hello, Framers - My QA guy has a problem with chasing minor typos in our docs: it takes longer to document the typo than it does to fix it. He wants a solution that bypasses the need for FrameMaker, and has read an article that says Word 2013 will allow editing of PDFs in native format. He wants the developers to be able to do this to my docs. I’ve explained all the many problems with using Word, but he is still searching for an answer, which means I am too. What is your solution to the problem he sees? To me, it should be a non-problem, i.e., typos should not exist anyway, and the developers should not be allowed anywhere near my “source”, but the reality is that he has more say in it than I (he is also scrummaster). Thanks Jack DeLand ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as mkrupp...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mkrupp128%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/
Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster
I think maybe a summary rather than a link to ALL the comments here. ;-) - Original Message - From: Peter Courlis neat_g...@yahoo.com To: Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:12:56 PM Subject: Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster Hello Wonderful stimulating discussion on Typos and handling PDF's . Be sure to send a Link, to the Scrum Master, for Framers@lists.frameusers.com ... For he is about to learn some new things ... A Nuebie From: Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:53 AM Subject: Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster He wants a solution that bypasses the need for FrameMaker, and has read an article that says Word 2013 will allow editing of PDFs in native format. He wants the developers to be able to do this to my docs. Ignoring the fact that Microsoft is famous for talking about features in future products that never actually make it into the release, or that possible release dates are rarely met, doesn't your QA guy realize that PDFs don't store information the same way as normal documents? They don't necessarily store paragraphs as paragraphs or even store words as words-- but may store them as separate groupings of letters. And elements on the PDF page aren't necessarily generated in the order you expect. ( See page 25 of the PDF at this link: http://www.planetpdf.com/planetpdf/pdfs/pdf2k/02E/gstaas_howpdfworks.pdf .) (I've seen a better explanation of this somewhere, but couldn't find it.) So any program that reads a PDF takes its best guess in reconstituting text back into words and paragraphs. In other words, what you see in the PDF may not be what you get in the converted Word doc, nor in the regenerated PDF. I found this description of the Word 2013 PDF editing feature to back that up: With Word 2013, you can convert a PDF document into a Word document and edit the content. To convert a PDF, you open it like you would any other document. 1. Click File Open Browse . 2. Find the PDF and click Open . The converted document might not have a perfect page to page correspondence with the original. The conversion works best with mostly textual documents. Notice that last part. The converted document might not have a perfect page to page correspondence with the original. The conversion works best with mostly textual documents. In other words, prepare for problems. Expect to lose your previous formatting. Unless you are editing simple business letters or novels, problems are pretty much guaranteed. (Here's the link: http://www.liveside.net/2012/06/29/exclusive-microsoft-word-2013-to-support-built-in-pdf-editing/ .) PDFs are meant to be final output only. To fix typos in a PDF, the standard procedure is to fix the source file and regenerate a corrected PDF. (If you don't fix the source, the typo just reappears the next time an updated PDF is generated.) Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as neat_g...@yahoo.com . Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com . To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/neat_gent%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com . Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jackdel...@comcast.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jackdeland%40comcast.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM10 to HTML
When FM10 and the previous versions save a file to HTML, the numbered cross-references are replaced by see followed by the content of the reference. Is there any way to avoid this extraneous text and keep the number and perhaps its format? If it involves the insertion of codes, please tell me where in the help files information on this subject is located. Thank you. Bob Leif ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Announcement from ElmSoft
Announcement: ElmSoft (www.ElmSoftOnline.com), the developers of FrameScript, would like to announce the release of version 2 of EPubFm (EPubFm2), the quick and easy way to create epub files from FrameMaker documents and books. EPubFm version 1 could save only a single FM document to an epub file. EPubFm2 can save any combination of FrameMaker documents and FrameMaker books into a single epub file (ebook). Other new Features: EPubFm2 can automatically create a cover document for you or EPubFm2 can use one of your own FM documents as the cover document. EPubFm2 can create an epub specific table of contents EPubFm2 can generate a unique identifier for your ebook. EPubFm2 lets you automate (if you have FrameScript) the production of ebooks via scripting. Source options: 1) Create an ebook from a single FM document 2) Create an ebook from a single FM book (including Toc and Indexes) 3) Create an ebook from any set of FM documents 4) Create an ebook from any set of FM books 5) Create an ebook from any combination of FM documents and FM books. You can also add a custom (or auto-created) cover document to any of the above scenarios. EPubFm2 can also convert an epub document into a mobi file* (for use on Amazon KindleR brand of products). EPubFm2 works with FrameMaker versions 6.0, 7.0. 7.1, 7.2, 8.0, 9.0 and 10. For more information go to the ElmSoft website at http://www.ElmSoftOnline.com. Customers of version 1 will receive a free upgrade to version 2. See the Products page on the ElmSoft Web site for more information about the free upgrade. For questions, send an email to sa...@elmsoftonline.com *Requires the separate installation of KindleGen from Amazon (free program). Frank Elmore Project leader for FrameScript and EPubFm ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM10 to HTML
From what I've read, FM's native export to HTML is fairly weak - most people seem to invest in MIF2GO to take their FM content and finely control the resulting HTML. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Leif Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:32 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM10 to HTML When FM10 and the previous versions save a file to HTML, the numbered cross-references are replaced by see followed by the content of the reference. Is there any way to avoid this extraneous text and keep the number and perhaps its format? If it involves the insertion of codes, please tell me where in the help files information on this subject is located. Thank you. Bob Leif ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM10 to HTML
On 18/07/2012 1:31 PM, Robert Leif wrote: When FM10 and the previous versions save a file to HTML, the numbered cross-references are replaced by see followed by the content of the reference. Is there any way to avoid this extraneous text and keep the number and perhaps its format? If it involves the insertion of codes, please tell me where in the help files information on this subject is located. Thank you. Bob Leif This body part will be downloaded on demand. Bob, Look for the Generating HTML topic in the help files. HTML output is governed by the HTML mapping tables on the reference pages. (BTW, which body part will you be downloading, should I demand it??) Best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM10 to HTML
I have had to do a lot with this lately, and I'm still at it. Sadly, the help is of little help. The most important thing to know is that the conversion is done according to the HTML mapping table on the doc reference page. You can go to File Utilities HTML Setup... but you do better to go right to the table. The Ses... is a default setting that you can change easily. If you have a book with multiple files, then the very first file in the book gets a separate, master conversion table. Work on one file until you have it working, then Copy Formats / Reference pages across the other files. Then if the first file has a second, obsolete mapping table, replace it or edit it. Good luck! john -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:22 AM To: rl...@rleif.com Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM10 to HTML On 18/07/2012 1:31 PM, Robert Leif wrote: When FM10 and the previous versions save a file to HTML, the numbered cross-references are replaced by see followed by the content of the reference. Is there any way to avoid this extraneous text and keep the number and perhaps its format? If it involves the insertion of codes, please tell me where in the help files information on this subject is located. Thank you. Bob Leif This body part will be downloaded on demand. Bob, Look for the Generating HTML topic in the help files. HTML output is governed by the HTML mapping tables on the reference pages. (BTW, which body part will you be downloading, should I demand it??) Best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jsgamm...@imprivata.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivata.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster
Not to be too picky, but why is the ScrumMaster, whose role is to be a facilitator, getting tied in knots over typos? That's not his role in a true Agile environment. Just a thought! Marguerite ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster
Hi there - I believe he sees it as a defect which must be corrected, ergo, his problem (he is in an Agile role but in a QA headspace, so to speak). BTW, there seems to be a one-day delay between my writing to the list, and the post actually appearing. Jack - Original Message - From: Marguerite Krupp mkrupp...@yahoo.com To: jackdel...@comcast.net, framers framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:13:08 AM Subject: Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster Not to be too picky, but why is the ScrumMaster, whose role is to be a facilitator, getting tied in knots over typos? That's not his role in a true Agile environment. Just a thought! Marguerite ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM10 to HTML
MIF2Go is much more flexible than the native HTML export and well worth the $295. On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Robert Leif rl...@rleif.com wrote: When FM10 and the previous versions save a file to HTML, the numbered cross-references are replaced by see followed by the content of the reference. Is there any way to avoid this extraneous text and keep the number and perhaps its format? If it involves the insertion of codes, please tell me where in the help files information on this subject is located. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM10 to HTML
>From what I've read, FM's native export to HTML is fairly weak - most people >seem to invest in MIF2GO to take their FM content and finely control the >resulting HTML. From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Leif Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:32 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM10 to HTML When FM10 and the previous versions save a file to HTML, the numbered cross-references are replaced by see followed by the content of the reference. Is there any way to avoid this extraneous text and keep the number and perhaps its format? If it involves the insertion of codes, please tell me where in the help files information on this subject is located. Thank you. Bob Leif -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120719/470d1d0f/attachment.html>
FM10 to HTML
On 18/07/2012 1:31 PM, Robert Leif wrote: > When FM10 and the previous versions save a file to HTML, the numbered > cross-references are replaced by see followed by the content of the > reference. Is there any way to avoid this extraneous text and keep the > number and perhaps its format? If it involves the insertion of codes, > please tell me where in the help files information on this subject is > located. > > Thank you. > > Bob Leif > > > > This body part will be downloaded on demand. > Bob, Look for the "Generating HTML" topic in the help files. HTML output is governed by the HTML mapping tables on the reference pages. (BTW, which body part will you be downloading, should I demand it??) Best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
FM10 to HTML
I have had to do a lot with this lately, and I'm still at it. Sadly, the help is of little help. The most important thing to know is that the conversion is done according to the HTML mapping table on the doc reference page. You can go to File > Utilities > HTML Setup... but you do better to go right to the table. The Ses... is a default setting that you can change easily. If you have a book with multiple files, then the very first file in the book gets a separate, master conversion table. Work on one file until you have it working, then Copy Formats / Reference pages across the other files. Then if the first file has a second, obsolete mapping table, replace it or edit it. Good luck! john -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:22 AM To: rleif at rleif.com Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM10 to HTML On 18/07/2012 1:31 PM, Robert Leif wrote: > When FM10 and the previous versions save a file to HTML, the numbered > cross-references are replaced by see followed by the content of the > reference. Is there any way to avoid this extraneous text and keep the > number and perhaps its format? If it involves the insertion of codes, > please tell me where in the help files information on this subject is > located. > > Thank you. > > Bob Leif > > > > This body part will be downloaded on demand. > Bob, Look for the "Generating HTML" topic in the help files. HTML output is governed by the HTML mapping tables on the reference pages. (BTW, which body part will you be downloading, should I demand it??) Best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jsgammato at imprivata.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivata.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster
Not to be too picky, but why is the ScrumMaster, whose role is to be a facilitator, getting tied in knots over typos? That's not his role in a true Agile environment. Just a thought! Marguerite -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120719/4db70333/attachment.html>
Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster
Hi there - I believe he sees it as a defect which must be corrected, ergo, his problem (he is in an Agile role but in a QA headspace, so to speak). BTW, there seems to be a one-day delay between my writing to the list, and the post actually appearing. Jack - Original Message - From: "Marguerite Krupp" <mkrupp...@yahoo.com> To: jackdeland at comcast.net, "framers" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:13:08 AM Subject: Re: Minor typos and the QA guy/scrummaster Not to be too picky, but why is the ScrumMaster, whose role is to be a facilitator, getting tied in knots over typos? That's not his role in a true Agile environment. Just a thought! Marguerite -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120719/69fb879b/attachment.html>
FM10 to HTML
MIF2Go is much more flexible than the native HTML export and well worth the $295. On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Robert Leif wrote: > When FM10 and the previous versions save a file to HTML, the numbered > cross-references are replaced by see followed by the content of the > reference. Is there any way to avoid this extraneous text and keep the > number and perhaps its format? If it involves the insertion of codes, please > tell me where in the help files information on this subject is located.
