Re: Question about these frameusers lists

2013-06-22 Thread Helen Borrie
At 10:05 a.m. 21/06/2013, Theresa de Valence wrote:
>My questions/replies get posted to frameusers after a day or so. I have been 
>subscriber to these lists for more than 15(?) years but I had to 
>delete/refresh my subscription about a year or two ago.
>
>Does this happen to everyone? Is there anything I can do to get my messages to 
>post sooner?

I manage a large number of Mailman lists so I can tell you one or two things 
about the user management side of things that might affect the length of time 
it takes to see posts.

1. When a person subscribes (or is subscribed by an admin) the default is for 
the account to be moderated always.  That means your postings will wait in a 
holding area until someone gets to it, reads it and lets it through.

If yours is on 'Mod' it might be just an oversight or the list admin might have 
an issue with your usage.  You can send a message to the list admin 
(listad...@frameusers.com) and ask for your account to be unmoderated.  

2.  If you post a message using an email address other than the one you are 
subscribed with, again your message will await moderation because it is from a 
non-subscribed email address.  Again, it is up to an admin to get to it, read 
it and OK it.

In addition to one or another of these delaying factors, if you are posting 
from a different time zone than the one the admin[s] live[s] in, you need to 
allow for the fact that (a) admins are volunteers who have day jobs and other 
joys to fill their days and (b) your daytime might be their night-time and your 
weekends might be a day out from theirs, either way.

On the lists I manage, there are some users who are just plain hopeless at 
using the lists.  They post bulky, fancy, junky HTML when list etiquette really 
needs more consideration for others ( P L A I N   T E X T  without screeds of 
company notices and adverts) and they include huge graphics as attachments 
because they are too darned lazy to copy just the text of error messages.  Most 
lists are set up to put large messages on hold. The high limit is usually set 
pretty low, about 1 - 5 KB. 

Persistent offenders are the bane of a list admin's life as they waste so much 
of our time.  They tend to go on permanent moderation, which pretty much 
guarantees delays for them.

Helen



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Question about these frameusers lists

2013-06-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
Change how you send your email? I use GMail and my posts usually show
up on the list almost immediately.

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Theresa de Valence  wrote:
> My questions/replies get posted to frameusers after a day or so. I have been
> subscriber to these lists for more than 15(?) years but I had to
> delete/refresh my subscription about a year or two ago.


Re: Question about these frameusers lists

2013-06-22 Thread Alan T Litchfield

Hi,

As another long time lister...

On 21/06/2013, at 10:05 AM, Theresa de Valence wrote:

My questions/replies get posted to frameusers after a day or so. I  
have been subscriber to these lists for more than 15(?) years but I  
had to delete/refresh my subscription about a year or two ago.


I haven't done that.



Does this happen to everyone? Is there anything I can do to get my  
messages to post sooner?


I find the return speed to be variable but it has improved (remember,  
it used to be a lot worse). It seems to be fairly inconsistent too,  
with some peoples' posts processing faster than others. That can make  
the reading of threads quite confusing sometimes.


Alan

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Importing an xml document into structured Frame (version 8)

2013-06-22 Thread Theresa de Valence
To recap: I have an file exported from Microsoft Access called 
Storytext.xml. I want to "import" this into a structured Frame document 
(template) which will "automatically" reformat the contents according to 
extant elements/paratags/chartags.


You can probably tell that I don't exactly understand what the 
structured document will be doing, if ever I get it working OK.  I have 
now been through Steve Rickaby's excellent intro to structured Frame. 
And I have been (successfully) through some parts of the Adobe 
Structured Application Developers Guide for Frame v.8, but they would be 
very small parts!


I've successfully built an EDD called WhosMEDD.fm for which I have used 
the structure tools to convert to DTD.


I have imported the EDD into my "template" document.

I will not be round-tripping, simply reading an .xml file and 
"processing it" so it ends up in my Frame template.


Here's where I am:
--
Regarding the structured application, which I found here:
/Structure/Structapps.fm
I have placed this at the top of the file:
--
Application name:   WhosM

Template: 
c:\data\MysteryCommunity\CrimeFiction\WhosMurderingCrimeFiction\Story_.fm


DTD: 
c:\data\MysteryCommunity\CrimeFiction\WhosMurderingCrimeFiction\WhosM.dtd


Read/write rules: 
c:\data\MysteryCommunity\CrimeFiction\WhosMurderingCrimeFiction\WhosMrules


DOCTYPE:Document
--
The read/write rules look like this:

fm version is "8.0";

/*
 * Include all ISO entity mapping rules.
 */

writer do not output book processing instructions;
--
The Storytext.xml file can be opened in Frame, the log says:

XML Read Report Log
June 21 2:50 pm
Source Document C:\Data\Access\Reports\StoryText.xml

XML Parser Messages (Document Prolog)
 C:\Data\Access\Reports\StoryText.xml; line 1
Ignoring book component processing instruction. No book has been generated.
--

However, the master pages which get applied to Storytext.xml look like 
nothing I've ever seen before (a giant 1 in the right hand corner).


The entire contents have a Body paratag which uses a Minion Pro 11 pt font.

The body lines are broken with CR before and after character tags 
(Emphasis, etc).


The Structure View is all red with dashed lines.


Any ideas what is happening?
Should the file I'm processing be in the same directory as the application?
Are my application file names too long?
Where might the "template" it's using be coming from?

Thanks for your help,
Theresa


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Re: FrameMaker to Confluence via WebWorks

2013-06-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
Maybe. They didn't suggest that when I complained about the export.

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Rick Quatro  wrote:
> I just watched one of Webwork's webinars on creating custom outputs from
> ePublisher. Can't you create a custom output for Confluence 4 in ePublisher?
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Re: Adjust paste to be paste/special

2013-06-22 Thread Theresa de Valence

On 6/21/2013 3:19 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:

Copy the entry from the maker.ini in the FrameMaker installation directory:
c:\Program Files\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11\maker.ini


I'm in Frame 8 and the entry below isn't there:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, MIFW, MIF, RTF, OLE 2, META, EMF,  DIB, 
BMP, UNICODE TEXT, TEXT

Change it so that UNICODE TEXT is at the beginning
of the list.


So, where do I put it? These are the headings I have:
[Preferences]
[DialogLayout]
[Directories]
[Spelling]
[RecentlyVisitedFiles]
[StructureView]

Preferences?
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RE: Adjust paste to be paste/special

2013-06-22 Thread Harro de Jong
Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:

> The entry which you should copy is:
> ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, MIFW, MIF, RTF, OLE 2, META, EMF,  DIB,
> BMP, UNICODE TEXT, TEXT Change it so that UNICODE TEXT is at the beginning
> of the list.


note that this effectively changes Ctrl-V to 'paste as text', not 'Paste 
Special'. It's probably what you wanted, but on the offchance that you really 
want to map Ctrl-V to open the Paste Special menu:

go to the folder
 \fminit\configui

If the file customui.cfg exists, open it with a text editor. If it doesn't 
exist, create a new text file with that name. 
Add the following line to customui.cfg: 
 
>

Save and close the file, then restart Frame. 
Note that this modification means that the Paste Special menu opens every time 
you press Ctrl-V. 

Harro de Jong
Triview
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Converting images with searchable text

2013-06-22 Thread Timothy DeWees
I'm working in a large, complex book (3000+ pages).  One of my co-workers
was tasked with creating some new images for the book using visio. I
suggested converting the visio images into pdf "images" and pulling them
into the book that way thinking that the text within the images would be
searchable. The text within the original pdf images is searchable. But once
the entire book is converted to pdf, the text in the images is no longer
searchable.  I understand that I can run OCR on the new pdf file and the
text will be made searchable.  I was wondering though if there is something
I can do in the process of converting the visio figures and pulling them
into the frame book where the text would still be searchable after the frame
book is converted to pdf?  I did some research and there seemed to be
varying opinions on this, with some recommending third-party software.  But
I was wondering what I could do to improve this process without using
third-party software?  Thanks in advance for your help. 

 

Tim

 

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Question about these frameusers lists

2013-06-22 Thread Theresa de Valence
My questions/replies get posted to frameusers after a day or so. I have 
been subscriber to these lists for more than 15(?) years but I had to 
delete/refresh my subscription about a year or two ago.


Does this happen to everyone? Is there anything I can do to get my 
messages to post sooner?


Thanks,
Theresa
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