RE: Choosing a Help Format
Thanks for the suggestion, Grant, but I’m not clear on whether it supports Windows 7. We’ll look into it. Yup, Rob confirmed that MS Help Viewer only works with Visual Studio. So it looks like we’re stuck with MS HTML Help (.chm), which is a bit more modern than WinHelp. Eclipse Help and OmniHelp are also still in the running. We found that we can do a rudimentary context-sensitive help with any of them if we link to a URL and don’t try to link to a mid-page anchor. Thanks to everyone who responded. With your help, we are very close to making a decision. Fei Min From: gr...@hedgewizard.net [mailto:gr...@hedgewizard.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:48 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format Not only that, but MS stopped support for the 32-bit help viewer. ( WinHlp32.exe) However, they do still distribute it http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607 , albeit with some fairly scary warnings. There is an alternative viewer: Help Explorer Viewer ( http://download.cnet.com/Help-Explorer-Viewer/3000-6675_4-1061.html) Grant Hogarth On November 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.commailto:rob...@lauriston.com wrote: There's no free runtime help viewer? That would explain why no one uses that format. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.commailto:feimin.lore...@onsemi.com wrote: We’ve been in touch with Rob Chandler (creator of mshcMigrate) and he’s helped us realize that I might have been describing our challenge incorrectly. The developers are using VS 2010 to create an application that will run independently from Visual Studio, using .NET 4.0 as the framework. From everything we’ve read, it seems that MS Help Viewer only works if Visual Studio is installed; is that right? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Choosing a Help Format
Thanks, Jack, but we’re using FrameMaker for the content creation and we’re not planning to move to Flare. Fei Min From: Jack DeLand [mailto:jackdel...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:46 AM To: Fei Min Lorente; gr...@hedgewizard.net; 'Robert Lauriston' Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format I haven’t kept up with this thread; has anyone mentioned Flare Help Viewer? It is much more modern than CHM, and runs in .Net 4.0 (required). Worth a trial. Jack DeLand, CSM | 734 972 3026 (cell) | jack.deland (skype) | http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackdeland From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:23 AM To: gr...@hedgewizard.netmailto:gr...@hedgewizard.net; Robert Lauriston Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format Thanks for the suggestion, Grant, but I’m not clear on whether it supports Windows 7. We’ll look into it. Yup, Rob confirmed that MS Help Viewer only works with Visual Studio. So it looks like we’re stuck with MS HTML Help (.chm), which is a bit more modern than WinHelp. Eclipse Help and OmniHelp are also still in the running. We found that we can do a rudimentary context-sensitive help with any of them if we link to a URL and don’t try to link to a mid-page anchor. Thanks to everyone who responded. With your help, we are very close to making a decision. Fei Min From: gr...@hedgewizard.netmailto:gr...@hedgewizard.net [mailto:gr...@hedgewizard.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:48 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format Not only that, but MS stopped support for the 32-bit help viewer. ( WinHlp32.exe) However, they do still distribute it http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607 , albeit with some fairly scary warnings. There is an alternative viewer: Help Explorer Viewer ( http://download.cnet.com/Help-Explorer-Viewer/3000-6675_4-1061.html) Grant Hogarth On November 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.commailto:rob...@lauriston.com wrote: There's no free runtime help viewer? That would explain why no one uses that format. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.commailto:feimin.lore...@onsemi.com wrote: We’ve been in touch with Rob Chandler (creator of mshcMigrate) and he’s helped us realize that I might have been describing our challenge incorrectly. The developers are using VS 2010 to create an application that will run independently from Visual Studio, using .NET 4.0 as the framework. From everything we’ve read, it seems that MS Help Viewer only works if Visual Studio is installed; is that right? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't
In my opinion, the Character Designer should have From Style rather than As Is. The As Is setting impedes experimentation with the settings. I agree with Matt: I teach never to edit character tags with text selected. There is a method to do it safely with text selected, but it requires more clicks of the mouse. David Creamer IDEAS Training http://www.ideastraining.com http://www.ideastraining.com Adobe Authorized Instructor Certified Expert since 1995 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Choosing a Help Format
Thanks for the suggestion, Grant, but I?m not clear on whether it supports Windows 7. We?ll look into it. Yup, Rob confirmed that MS Help Viewer only works with Visual Studio. So it looks like we?re stuck with MS HTML Help (.chm), which is a bit more modern than WinHelp. Eclipse Help and OmniHelp are also still in the running. We found that we can do a rudimentary context-sensitive help with any of them if we link to a URL and don?t try to link to a mid-page anchor. Thanks to everyone who responded. With your help, we are very close to making a decision. Fei Min From: grant at hedgewizard.net [mailto:gr...@hedgewizard.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:48 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format Not only that, but MS stopped support for the 32-bit help viewer. ( WinHlp32.exe) However, they do still distribute it http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607 , albeit with some fairly scary warnings. There is an alternative viewer: Help Explorer Viewer ( http://download.cnet.com/Help-Explorer-Viewer/3000-6675_4-1061.html) Grant Hogarth > On November 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM Robert Lauriston lauriston.com<mailto:robert at lauriston.com>> wrote: > > > There's no free runtime help viewer? That would explain why no one > uses that format. > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Fei Min Lorente > mailto:FeiMin.Lorente at onsemi.com>> wrote: > > We?ve been in touch with Rob Chandler (creator of mshcMigrate) and he?s > > helped us realize that I might have been describing our challenge > > incorrectly. The developers are using VS 2010 to create an application that > > will run independently from Visual Studio, using .NET 4.0 as the framework. > > From everything we?ve read, it seems that MS Help Viewer only works if > > Visual Studio is installed; is that right? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131128/1c4ac787/attachment.html>
Choosing a Help Format
Thanks, Jack, but we?re using FrameMaker for the content creation and we?re not planning to move to Flare. Fei Min From: Jack DeLand [mailto:jackdel...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:46 AM To: Fei Min Lorente; grant at hedgewizard.net; 'Robert Lauriston' Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format I haven?t kept up with this thread; has anyone mentioned Flare Help Viewer? It is much more modern than CHM, and runs in .Net 4.0 (required). Worth a trial. Jack DeLand, CSM | 734 972 3026 (cell) | jack.deland (skype) | http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackdeland From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:23 AM To: grant at hedgewizard.net<mailto:grant at hedgewizard.net>; Robert Lauriston Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com> Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format Thanks for the suggestion, Grant, but I?m not clear on whether it supports Windows 7. We?ll look into it. Yup, Rob confirmed that MS Help Viewer only works with Visual Studio. So it looks like we?re stuck with MS HTML Help (.chm), which is a bit more modern than WinHelp. Eclipse Help and OmniHelp are also still in the running. We found that we can do a rudimentary context-sensitive help with any of them if we link to a URL and don?t try to link to a mid-page anchor. Thanks to everyone who responded. With your help, we are very close to making a decision. Fei Min From: grant at hedgewizard.net<mailto:grant at hedgewizard.net> [mailto:gr...@hedgewizard.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:48 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format Not only that, but MS stopped support for the 32-bit help viewer. ( WinHlp32.exe) However, they do still distribute it http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607 , albeit with some fairly scary warnings. There is an alternative viewer: Help Explorer Viewer ( http://download.cnet.com/Help-Explorer-Viewer/3000-6675_4-1061.html) Grant Hogarth > On November 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM Robert Lauriston lauriston.com<mailto:robert at lauriston.com>> wrote: > > > There's no free runtime help viewer? That would explain why no one > uses that format. > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Fei Min Lorente > mailto:FeiMin.Lorente at onsemi.com>> wrote: > > We?ve been in touch with Rob Chandler (creator of mshcMigrate) and he?s > > helped us realize that I might have been describing our challenge > > incorrectly. The developers are using VS 2010 to create an application that > > will run independently from Visual Studio, using .NET 4.0 as the framework. > > From everything we?ve read, it seems that MS Help Viewer only works if > > Visual Studio is installed; is that right? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131128/4d8bb4d0/attachment.html>
Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn't
In my opinion, the Character Designer should have "From Style" rather than "As Is". The "As Is" setting impedes experimentation with the settings. I agree with Matt: I teach never to edit character tags with text selected. There is a method to do it safely with text selected, but it requires more clicks of the mouse. David Creamer IDEAS Training <http://www.ideastraining.com> http://www.ideastraining.com Adobe Authorized Instructor & Certified Expert since 1995 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131128/10e2a896/attachment.html>
Choosing a Help Format
I haven?t kept up with this thread; has anyone mentioned Flare Help Viewer? It is much more modern than CHM, and runs in .Net 4.0 (required). Worth a trial. Jack DeLand, CSM | 734 972 3026 (cell) | jack.deland (skype) | http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackdeland From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:23 AM To: grant at hedgewizard.net; Robert Lauriston Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format Thanks for the suggestion, Grant, but I?m not clear on whether it supports Windows 7. We?ll look into it. Yup, Rob confirmed that MS Help Viewer only works with Visual Studio. So it looks like we?re stuck with MS HTML Help (.chm), which is a bit more modern than WinHelp. Eclipse Help and OmniHelp are also still in the running. We found that we can do a rudimentary context-sensitive help with any of them if we link to a URL and don?t try to link to a mid-page anchor. Thanks to everyone who responded. With your help, we are very close to making a decision. Fei Min From: grant at hedgewizard.net [mailto:gr...@hedgewizard.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:48 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: Fei Min Lorente; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format Not only that, but MS stopped support for the 32-bit help viewer. ( WinHlp32.exe) However, they do still distribute it http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607 , albeit with some fairly scary warnings. There is an alternative viewer: Help Explorer Viewer ( http://download.cnet.com/Help-Explorer-Viewer/3000-6675_4-1061.html) Grant Hogarth > On November 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM Robert Lauriston > wrote: > > > There's no free runtime help viewer? That would explain why no one > uses that format. > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Fei Min Lorente > wrote: > > We?ve been in touch with Rob Chandler (creator of mshcMigrate) and he?s > > helped us realize that I might have been describing our challenge > > incorrectly. The developers are using VS 2010 to create an application that > > will run independently from Visual Studio, using .NET 4.0 as the framework. > > From everything we?ve read, it seems that MS Help Viewer only works if > > Visual Studio is installed; is that right? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131128/178c4855/attachment.html>
Choosing a Help Format
winhlp32.exe is a viewer for WinHelp (.hlp) files, which format was supplanted by MS HTML Help (.chm) years ago. We're talking about Microsoft Help Container (.mshc). On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:48 PM, grant at hedgewizard.net wrote: > Not only that, but MS stopped support for the 32-bit help viewer. ( > WinHlp32.exe) > >> On November 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM Robert Lauriston >> wrote: >> There's no free runtime help viewer? That would explain why no one >> uses that format. >> >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Fei Min Lorente >> wrote: >> > We?ve been in touch with Rob Chandler (creator of mshcMigrate) and he?s >> > helped us realize that I might have been describing our challenge >> > incorrectly. The developers are using VS 2010 to create an application >> > that >> > will run independently from Visual Studio, using .NET 4.0 as the >> > framework. >> > From everything we?ve read, it seems that MS Help Viewer only works if >> > Visual Studio is installed; is that right? >
Looking for Book/Training on ExtendScript for FrameMaker
I suggest instead of spending money on ExtendScript training or consulting you buy FrameScript. It's cheap, the documentation is complete, and there's good support on their forum. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Bhavna Raghwani wrote: > Hi, > > I am new to the ExtendScript environment. Can someone please suggest a > training course or a book for the same? > > Thanks. > Regards, > Bhavna > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as robert at lauriston.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
