Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7
Thanks for the tips. It turns out that the laptop will only be available at the beginning of April (it is something that someone is giving back). So I will keep this all in mind. Another issue is that I have added various small add-ons to Frame over the years, and I have to reconstruct everything that I did. Message: 6 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 09:05:21 +1300 From: Helen Borrie hele...@iinet.net.au To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7 Message-ID: 20140211204939.zluh14571.mta02.xtra.co...@dev1.mail.iinet.net.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii At 12:47 a.m. 7/02/2014, Carrie Baker wrote: Hello, I don't think I am the only person with oldish software. I work in a fairly small company, as a single technical writer. I have FrameMaker 7, and use with Acrobat 7. I have FrameMaker 8 and Acrobat 8 (jumped over from FM6 and Acro6, no upgrade path available at that point, since the new age Adobe actively prevents it as soon as there is an upgrade-ineligible newer version on the market). I started out with the same doubts as you. The first installation of Win7 I had was on my 32-bit laptop. I had retained all the FM and Acrobat updates as a hedge against the historical horrors of trying to reinstall on WinXP after a disk death. After installing from the licensed CDs I carefully applied the updates, one by one, to test my doubts, always rebooting after each one. I ended up with a perfect installation, not quick, but effective. No XP mode. Encouraged, I followed the same route when I went to install on my development box, a clean install on a 64-bit Win7. I expected dramas. Eighteen months down the track, there have been none. Both products installed into Program Files (X86) and the updates knew where to find them. With your FM7 and Acro7, I suggest Just do it . It will either work or it won't, as my wise old Norfolk mother-in-law would have said. If it doesn't, you can run the Uninstall and then download CCleaner from www.filehippo.com, to get rid of the rubbish left behind. Just a point to those encouraging Carrie to install as 64-bit - there's no way you can make a 32-bit application install or run as 64-bit. Another point - deriving from the earlier horror experiences of reinstalling on XP - is to install Acrobat FIRST (apply the updates later) and make sure the FM installer doesn't install Distiller or any other Acrobat components. AFAIR, there's a dialog box that tells you there is an older version of Distiller already installedyou have to tell it to ignore that problem because it's not a problem, just bad logic in the installer. Helen -- Carrie Baker carrie...@gmail.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Cannot insert the infinity symbol and other special character problems
I'm working in FrameMaker 10 on Windows 7 and I cannot insert the infinity symbol. According to the FrameMaker character set documentation, it is Unicode 221E, but perhaps all that information is obsolete now. In any case, I tried holding down Alt while I pressed +221e, and all I got was the Edit menu. I can't find a keyboard shortcut for it. I resorted to getting the symbol in Word and copying and pasting it into FrameMaker, but seriously, is that what I have to do? Or do I have to create an equation and insert the symbol? My colleague is also working in FrameMaker 10 on Windows 7 and she can't use the keyboard shortcuts (such as ctrl-q shift-8 to get a TM symbol). She gets other characters instead. She's resorted to copying and pasting from Word, and those all work except for the infinity symbol. All the information I've found on the internet has been for FrameMaker 7 or older. Can anyone tell me what to do for FrameMaker 10? Fei Min Lorente Senior Technical Communicator Medical and Wireless Division feimin.lore...@onsemi.commailto:feimin.lore...@onsemi.com +1 519-884-9696 ext. 2229 | Waterloo office +1 519-831-4931 | mobile +1 905-631-5724 | fax www.onsemi.comhttp://www.onsemi.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cannot insert the infinity symbol and other special character problems
Fei Min, I'm on Frame 8, so I have no solutions for Frame 10, but have you tried using Windows Character Map (under ProgramsAccessoriesSystem Tools) as a workaround? I was able to find and copy the ∞ symbol from there. Not a terribly elegant solution, but an alternative to copy/paste from Word... -Lise On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.comwrote: I’m working in FrameMaker 10 on Windows 7 and I cannot insert the infinity symbol. According to the FrameMaker character set documentation, it is Unicode 221E, but perhaps all that information is obsolete now. In any case, I tried holding down Alt while I pressed +221e, and all I got was the Edit menu. I can’t find a keyboard shortcut for it. I resorted to getting the symbol in Word and copying and pasting it into FrameMaker, but seriously, is that what I have to do? Or do I have to create an equation and insert the symbol? My colleague is also working in FrameMaker 10 on Windows 7 and she can’t use the keyboard shortcuts (such as ctrl-q shift-8 to get a TM symbol). She gets other characters instead. She’s resorted to copying and pasting from Word, and those all work except for the infinity symbol. All the information I’ve found on the internet has been for FrameMaker 7 or older. Can anyone tell me what to do for FrameMaker 10? Fei Min Lorente Senior Technical Communicator Medical and Wireless Division feimin.lore...@onsemi.com +1 519-884-9696 ext. 2229 | Waterloo office +1 519-831-4931 | mobile +1 905-631-5724 | fax www.onsemi.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rentagoodb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rentagoodbook%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- *Save the earth.* It's the only planet with chocolate. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cannot insert the infinity symbol and other special character problems
Windows Character Map should work, but not all systems have it installed. My company's IT department, for example, does not include it in the standard corporate desktop image. But the necessary executable *is* present in all Windows 7 system installations, and you can install it as a Windows component from the Add Programs control panel tool. But as of FM9, FrameMaker itself has a similar (albeit *very* crude looking...) tool built in. Go to EditUtilitiesCharacter Palette. And if you know the Unicode character number, you can also use FileUtilitiesHex Input, whihc is even cruder looking than the Character Palette (if that is possible). -Fred Ridder From: rentagoodb...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:11:54 -0600 Subject: Re: Cannot insert the infinity symbol and other special character problems To: feimin.lore...@onsemi.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Fei Min,I'm on Frame 8, so I have no solutions for Frame 10, but have you tried using Windows Character Map (under ProgramsAccessoriesSystem Tools) as a workaround? I was able to find and copy the ∞ symbol from there. Not a terribly elegant solution, but an alternative to copy/paste from Word...-Lise On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.com wrote: I’m working in FrameMaker 10 on Windows 7 and I cannot insert the infinity symbol. According to the FrameMaker character set documentation, it is Unicode 221E, but perhaps all that information is obsolete now. In any case, I tried holding down Alt while I pressed +221e, and all I got was the Edit menu. I can’t find a keyboard shortcut for it. I resorted to getting the symbol in Word and copying and pasting it into FrameMaker, but seriously, is that what I have to do? Or do I have to create an equation and insert the symbol? My colleague is also working in FrameMaker 10 on Windows 7 and she can’t use the keyboard shortcuts (such as ctrl-q shift-8 to get a TM symbol). She gets other characters instead. She’s resorted to copying and pasting from Word, and those all work except for the infinity symbol. All the information I’ve found on the internet has been for FrameMaker 7 or older. Can anyone tell me what to do for FrameMaker 10? Fei Min Lorente Senior Technical Communicator Medical and Wireless Division feimin.lore...@onsemi.com +1 519-884-9696 ext. 2229 | Waterloo office +1 519-831-4931 | mobile +1 905-631-5724 | fax www.onsemi.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rentagoodb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rentagoodbook%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cannot insert the infinity symbol and other special character problems
Thank you for the directions to the Character Palette. That works for me, but my colleague is still getting a question mark when she tries to insert the infinity symbol. There’s obviously something wrong with her setup. Yes, the Character Palette is crude, so it really helped to know that 221E would get me the infinity symbol; otherwise I could spend all day looking for it, and still miss it. Also, thanks for this site, Robert: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/221e/index.htm. It’s very thorough, and it was reassuring to know that the infinity symbol is available in Trebuchet, which is the font we’re using. Fei Min From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 3:39 PM To: Lise Bible; Fei Min Lorente Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cannot insert the infinity symbol and other special character problems Windows Character Map should work, but not all systems have it installed. My company's IT department, for example, does not include it in the standard corporate desktop image. But the necessary executable *is* present in all Windows 7 system installations, and you can install it as a Windows component from the Add Programs control panel tool. But as of FM9, FrameMaker itself has a similar (albeit *very* crude looking...) tool built in. Go to EditUtilitiesCharacter Palette. And if you know the Unicode character number, you can also use FileUtilitiesHex Input, whihc is even cruder looking than the Character Palette (if that is possible). -Fred Ridder From: rentagoodb...@gmail.commailto:rentagoodb...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:11:54 -0600 Subject: Re: Cannot insert the infinity symbol and other special character problems To: feimin.lore...@onsemi.commailto:feimin.lore...@onsemi.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Fei Min, I'm on Frame 8, so I have no solutions for Frame 10, but have you tried using Windows Character Map (under ProgramsAccessoriesSystem Tools) as a workaround? I was able to find and copy the ∞ symbol from there. Not a terribly elegant solution, but an alternative to copy/paste from Word... -Lise On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.commailto:feimin.lore...@onsemi.com wrote: I’m working in FrameMaker 10 on Windows 7 and I cannot insert the infinity symbol. According to the FrameMaker character set documentation, it is Unicode 221E, but perhaps all that information is obsolete now. In any case, I tried holding down Alt while I pressed +221e, and all I got was the Edit menu. I can’t find a keyboard shortcut for it. I resorted to getting the symbol in Word and copying and pasting it into FrameMaker, but seriously, is that what I have to do? Or do I have to create an equation and insert the symbol? My colleague is also working in FrameMaker 10 on Windows 7 and she can’t use the keyboard shortcuts (such as ctrl-q shift-8 to get a TM symbol). She gets other characters instead. She’s resorted to copying and pasting from Word, and those all work except for the infinity symbol. All the information I’ve found on the internet has been for FrameMaker 7 or older. Can anyone tell me what to do for FrameMaker 10? Fei Min Lorente Senior Technical Communicator Medical and Wireless Division feimin.lore...@onsemi.commailto:feimin.lore...@onsemi.com +1 519-884-9696 ext. 2229 | Waterloo office +1 519-831-4931 | mobile +1 905-631-5724 | fax www.onsemi.comhttp://www.onsemi.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rentagoodb...@gmail.commailto:rentagoodb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rentagoodbook%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.commailto:docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a
