Public Adobe bug database
Hi, Adobe published a bug database in which everyone can enter new bugs or search for existing bugs or wish for new features or rate existing entries. http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2014/07/new-public-bugbase-for-framemaker.html https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm In my oppinion very good. Let's see how it will work out. Best regards Winfried This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Quoted speech
Theresa, There should be no problem with those characters in HTML, so long as you put the correct declarations in the Header part of the page (to declare what character set you are using). If you look at a Japanese, Korean or Chinese site, for instance, you'll generally see they manage to have a plenty of non-ASCII characters in them ;) Alternatively, you can put escape sequences in your HTML for those characters. You can check your HTML is correct using a validator such as http://validator.w3.org David Message: 11 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 09:47:47 -0500 From: Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net,framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Quoted speech Message-ID: 53da5713.6050...@bstw.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 7/30/2014 4:49 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: Side-bar curiosity question: why do you choose not to use the curved apostrophe's? I find those to be more consistent with the way I want my documents to look ... fwiw. Actually, Z, I want to replace the curly apostrophes with straight apostrophes, and curly smart brackets with straight brackets, because I believe that these magic characters will blow up in epub, html, or web pages. Are you suggesting that they won't? I'm new to producting epub but not web pages which don't seem to like accented characters. Thanks, Theresa *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Quoted speech
Coding the HTML correctly doesn't ensure that the reader's system has the necessary character. Best practice is generally to stick to the extended 8-bit ASCII character set (ISO 8859-1), which does not include U+2018, U+2019, U+201C, or U+201D. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Davis, David david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com wrote: Theresa, There should be no problem with those characters in HTML, so long as you put the correct declarations in the Header part of the page (to declare what character set you are using). If you look at a Japanese, Korean or Chinese site, for instance, you'll generally see they manage to have a plenty of non-ASCII characters in them ;) Alternatively, you can put escape sequences in your HTML for those characters. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Quoted speech
Yes, typographic quotes (either single or double) are a problem if you restrict yourself to ISO 8859-1. But Theresa indicated that she also converts curly brackets to some other character in the belief that they cause problems in HTML and/or epub. ISO 8859-1 does have code points for all four style of brackets/braces, namely plain parentheses plus square, curly, and angle brackets/braces. None of these should cause any problem, even in a lowest common denominator system. It's also important to note that the use of straight vs. curled quote marks and apostrophes will not cause any significant misunderstanding except in the case of computer code. But substituting one type of bracket/brace for another is usually a bad idea because these different symbols are semantically different, particularly in technical and mathematical contexts. -Fred Ridder Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 09:53:43 -0700 Subject: Re: Quoted speech From: rob...@lauriston.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Coding the HTML correctly doesn't ensure that the reader's system has the necessary character. Best practice is generally to stick to the extended 8-bit ASCII character set (ISO 8859-1), which does not include U+2018, U+2019, U+201C, or U+201D. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Davis, David david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com wrote: Theresa, There should be no problem with those characters in HTML, so long as you put the correct declarations in the Header part of the page (to declare what character set you are using). If you look at a Japanese, Korean or Chinese site, for instance, you'll generally see they manage to have a plenty of non-ASCII characters in them ;) Alternatively, you can put escape sequences in your HTML for those characters. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Quoted speech
Braces aka left and right curly brackets are in the ASCII character set so no problem in HTML. I assumed the braces were some weird Australian typographical convention that Theresa was Americanizing. If they're being used in mathematical formulas or computer code syntax, they should not be changed. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes, typographic quotes (either single or double) are a problem if you restrict yourself to ISO 8859-1. But Theresa indicated that she also converts curly brackets to some other character in the belief that they cause problems in HTML and/or epub. ISO 8859-1 does have code points for all four style of brackets/braces, namely plain parentheses plus square, curly, and angle brackets/braces. None of these should cause any problem, even in a lowest common denominator system. It's also important to note that the use of straight vs. curled quote marks and apostrophes will not cause any significant misunderstanding except in the case of computer code. But substituting one type of bracket/brace for another is usually a bad idea because these different symbols are semantically different, particularly in technical and mathematical contexts. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Quoted speech
On 8/1/2014 12:45 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: Braces aka left and right curly brackets are in the ASCII character set so no problem in HTML. I assumed the bracets were some weird Australian typographical convention that Theresa was Americanizing. If they're being used in mathematical formulas or computer code syntax, they should not be changed. They're not, they are single quotes at the beginning and end of speech vs American double quotes at the beginning and end of speech. For a long time, one had to remove smart quotes from anything being published to the web or html or epub. Based on all these remarks, I have no idea if this is still true . . . Thanks, Theresa ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Quoted speech
We were responding to your statement, I want to replace ... curly 'smart' brackets with straight brackets, because I believe that these 'magic' characters will blow up in epub, html, or web pages. The bit about curly quotes is clear, I think every experienced tech writer has had problems with those on occasion. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com wrote: On 8/1/2014 12:45 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: Braces aka left and right curly brackets are in the ASCII character set so no problem in HTML. I assumed the bracets were some weird Australian typographical convention that Theresa was Americanizing. If they're being used in mathematical formulas or computer code syntax, they should not be changed. They're not, they are single quotes at the beginning and end of speech vs American double quotes at the beginning and end of speech. For a long time, one had to remove smart quotes from anything being published to the web or html or epub. Based on all these remarks, I have no idea if this is still true . . . ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
