FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine
Good morning all, I am hoping to add Adobe Acrobat to my FM 12 installation soon. I was just wondering about best practice regarding this. I assume it is recommended to use Acrobat rather than say a cheaper PDF editor , like Foxit? Also, could someone explain what happens when Acrobat is co-installed, in terms of any effect on the normal PDF creation within FM? Do I need to be aware of any issues? Thanks in advance, Denis Kind regards, Denis Daly Technical Writer [ICPNT Simple Logo White - Small] Kilbrittain, Bandon, Co. Cork, IRELANDhttp://www.myloc8ion.com/index.php/maps/find_code8/?code=WLF-17-68G Mobile: +353 86 3539962 Phone: +353 21 2439119/140 Fax: +353 21 2380559 Info: www.icpnewtech.comhttp://www.icpnewtech.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
Lin, As far as I recall, modern versions of Adobe Reader autogenerate the PDF bookmark pane and thumbnails on the fly if you ask them to, so if megabytes are really that tight for you, you could probably ditch them anyway? David Message: 2 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 14:16:20 -0500 From: Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com To: David Boss bossc...@rogers.com Cc: Frame Users framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding Message-ID: ca+momch5u+scw8jkcxtcbgggyuayctdwazw9ucausnvcwwg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks for the tip. I tried removing everything but the metadata (which was only the doc title), but it only trimmed about 2Mb off and took the bookmarks with it. *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine
When FM is installed standalone, a headless PDF Creator version is installed to be able to generate PDFs out of FM. This can sometimes clobber existing installs of Acrobat. Adding it after the fact should replace the headless version, but if it fails, then uninstalling everything, installing Acrobat first and then installing FM next (mindful of the setting to stop the PDF Creator from installing) should get you up and running. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Denis Daly Sent: February-20-15 6:00 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine Good morning all, I am hoping to add Adobe Acrobat to my FM 12 installation soon. I was just wondering about best practice regarding this. I assume it is recommended to use Acrobat rather than say a cheaper PDF editor , like Foxit? Also, could someone explain what happens when Acrobat is co-installed, in terms of any effect on the normal PDF creation within FM? Do I need to be aware of any issues? Thanks in advance, Denis Kind regards, Denis Daly Technical Writer [ICPNT Simple Logo White - Small] Kilbrittain, Bandon, Co. Cork, IRELANDhttp://www.myloc8ion.com/index.php/maps/find_code8/?code=WLF-17-68G Mobile: +353 86 3539962 Phone: +353 21 2439119/140 Fax: +353 21 2380559 Info: www.icpnewtech.comhttp://www.icpnewtech.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine
Jeff is right-on, as far as I'm concerned. Definitely install Acrobat before installing FM (making sure to not install the FM PDF creation thingy on top of your existing Acrobat installation). My own question is if my company should bump up to FM 12 from FM 11 if our deliverables are only pdf files. That's it -- my company is just not concerned with html, etc. Plus, at $1,000 a pop, Adobe isn't too concerned with pricing itself out of reach of more potential customers. What are the differences between the two versions that we should make the move? -- Ken in Atlanta Sent from my iPhone On Feb 20, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com wrote: When FM is installed standalone, a “headless” PDF Creator version is installed to be able to generate PDFs out of FM. This can sometimes clobber existing installs of Acrobat. Adding it after the fact should replace the “headless” version, but if it fails, then uninstalling everything, installing Acrobat first and then installing FM next (mindful of the setting to stop the PDF Creator from installing) should get you up and running. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Denis Daly Sent: February-20-15 6:00 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine Good morning all, I am hoping to add Adobe Acrobat to my FM 12 installation soon. I was just wondering about best practice regarding this. I assume it is recommended to use Acrobat rather than say a cheaper PDF editor , like Foxit? Also, could someone explain what happens when Acrobat is co-installed, in terms of any effect on the normal PDF creation within FM? Do I need to be aware of any issues? Thanks in advance, Denis Kind regards, Denis Daly Technical Writer image001.jpg Kilbrittain, Bandon, Co. Cork, IRELAND Mobile: +353 86 3539962 Phone: +353 21 2439119/140 Fax: +353 21 2380559 Info: www.icpnewtech.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as poshe...@bellsouth.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/poshedly%40bellsouth.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
WAS: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine
Well, one of the main things I’m looking for in going from FM11 to FM12 is the fix for the fatal crashes that I get from using the scroll wheel on my mouse in conjunction with the xrefs panel. That’s #1 for me – I usually blow up once a day with that one. The second feature that I’m looking forward to is the “remember where everything was left” feature that allows you to exit out of FM and then pick up right where you left off when you start it back up again – I usually have 4 or 5 docs open at one time remembering where I left off from the prior week gets really challenging. From: Ken Poshedly [mailto:poshe...@bellsouth.net] Sent: February-20-15 9:40 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine Jeff is right-on, as far as I'm concerned. Definitely install Acrobat before installing FM (making sure to not install the FM PDF creation thingy on top of your existing Acrobat installation). My own question is if my company should bump up to FM 12 from FM 11 if our deliverables are only pdf files. That's it -- my company is just not concerned with html, etc. Plus, at $1,000 a pop, Adobe isn't too concerned with pricing itself out of reach of more potential customers. What are the differences between the two versions that we should make the move? -- Ken in Atlanta Sent from my iPhone On Feb 20, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.commailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com wrote: When FM is installed standalone, a “headless” PDF Creator version is installed to be able to generate PDFs out of FM. This can sometimes clobber existing installs of Acrobat. Adding it after the fact should replace the “headless” version, but if it fails, then uninstalling everything, installing Acrobat first and then installing FM next (mindful of the setting to stop the PDF Creator from installing) should get you up and running. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Denis Daly Sent: February-20-15 6:00 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine Good morning all, I am hoping to add Adobe Acrobat to my FM 12 installation soon. I was just wondering about best practice regarding this. I assume it is recommended to use Acrobat rather than say a cheaper PDF editor , like Foxit? Also, could someone explain what happens when Acrobat is co-installed, in terms of any effect on the normal PDF creation within FM? Do I need to be aware of any issues? Thanks in advance, Denis Kind regards, Denis Daly Technical Writer image001.jpg Kilbrittain, Bandon, Co. Cork, IRELANDhttp://www.myloc8ion.com/index.php/maps/find_code8/?code=WLF-17-68G Mobile: +353 86 3539962 Phone: +353 21 2439119/140 Fax: +353 21 2380559 Info: www.icpnewtech.comhttp://www.icpnewtech.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as poshe...@bellsouth.netmailto:poshe...@bellsouth.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/poshedly%40bellsouth.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine
It's only $400 a pop to upgrade from FM11 to FM12, isn't it? And if your $1000 estimate includes an upgrade for Acrobat, then you might as well just go on and pop the $1200 to upgrade to TCS 5, getting Acrobat and a lot more. (Actually, you can get TCS5 for $1200 upgrading from as far back as FM7). Craig From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 8:40 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine Jeff is right-on, as far as I'm concerned. Definitely install Acrobat before installing FM (making sure to not install the FM PDF creation thingy on top of your existing Acrobat installation). My own question is if my company should bump up to FM 12 from FM 11 if our deliverables are only pdf files. That's it -- my company is just not concerned with html, etc. Plus, at $1,000 a pop, Adobe isn't too concerned with pricing itself out of reach of more potential customers. What are the differences between the two versions that we should make the move? -- Ken in Atlanta Sent from my iPhone On Feb 20, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com wrote: When FM is installed standalone, a “headless” PDF Creator version is installed to be able to generate PDFs out of FM. This can sometimes clobber existing installs of Acrobat. Adding it after the fact should replace the “headless” version, but if it fails, then uninstalling everything, installing Acrobat first and then installing FM next (mindful of the setting to stop the PDF Creator from installing) should get you up and running. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Denis Daly Sent: February-20-15 6:00 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine Good morning all, I am hoping to add Adobe Acrobat to my FM 12 installation soon. I was just wondering about best practice regarding this. I assume it is recommended to use Acrobat rather than say a cheaper PDF editor , like Foxit? Also, could someone explain what happens when Acrobat is co-installed, in terms of any effect on the normal PDF creation within FM? Do I need to be aware of any issues? Thanks in advance, Denis Kind regards, Denis Daly Technical Writer image001.jpg Kilbrittain, Bandon, Co. Cork, IRELAND http://www.myloc8ion.com/index.php/maps/find_code8/?code=WLF-17-68G Mobile: +353 86 3539962 Phone: +353 21 2439119/140 Fax: +353 21 2380559 Info: www.icpnewtech.com http://www.icpnewtech.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as poshe...@bellsouth.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/poshedly%40bellsouth.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.