Re: [Framers] When/which was the first 32-bit version of FM?

2018-06-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
I'm not sure there ever was a 16-bit version. It was originally
developed on a 32-bit Sun-2 workstation and Windows 3.11 supported
Win32s.

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 2:34 AM, Klaus Daube  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We know that the first Windows port of FM was for Win 3.11 must have been a 
> 16-bit
> version.
> And According to the Sneak Peak review at the tekom last november we know 
> that a
> 64-bit version is in the pipeline (intended for Win7 upwards).
> So I'm wondering, when the first 32-bit version of FM was issued for Windows 
> (and
> which Windows). What was the FM-version of this edition?
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Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing

2018-06-23 Thread Jack DeLand
For single sourcing, Flare is unmatched, but it will never replace FM for page 
layout. However, CSS is a fascinating world. 

Jack DeLand • Principal
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734 972 3026

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What a shame. I remember when the Adobe folks were the good guys.

Tammy, please keep us updated on your Flare experience.

   — Donna Reynolds
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Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing

2018-06-23 Thread D L Reynolds
What a shame. I remember when the Adobe folks were the good guys.

Tammy, please keep us updated on your Flare experience.

   — Donna Reynolds
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Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing

2018-06-23 Thread Peter Gold
Thanks for the update, Tammy. Glad to hear that somehow at least one
empowered Adobe employes was able to take action and restore your license.
Let's hope that this indicates that the system might be getting the
attention to fix the issue for the rest of us.

I received an email about my AdobeID account not being accessed within some
past months, and the need to go into it soon, before it's completely killed
off. The note from Jules Harrell puts a little more clarity on what's going
on. Thanks for that info.

The history of the tech industry is littered with HUGE companies that have
disappeared when their neglect and abuse of customers became known. Here's
hoping that Adobe's smart enough to not make the same kinds of mistakes.


On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 3:14 PM,  wrote:

> So, I debated a bit about posting this information to the list, but decided
> in the end that it would be appropriate as it details Adobe's final actions
> on this issue.
>
> This morning, at 7 am my phone ring and caller ID stated that it was Adobe.
> I wasn't sure what to expect when I picked up the phone, but it was an
> Adobe
> representative who quickly got to the point and stated the following: "We
> have processed your request and have issued you a genuine Adobe serial
> number for your CS6 suite. We have also updated your Adobe account to
> reflect this new serial number. It is effective immediately. Also, I will
> be
> receiving an email with a link to a survey about your customer satisfaction
> and kindly fill out and let us know that you were satisfied with how we
> resolved your issue." I politely stated my thanks and hung up.
>
> I don't know whether to laugh or cry about the request of a customer
> satisfaction survey. . . . I won't be an a***hole, but at the same time, I
> wish there was a place to write a lengthy response that wondered why it
> took
> an act of G*D to get this resolved for a longtime customer. I guess what
> really fried my about this one is that licensing issues with Adobe have
> cost
> me (and so many others) days of billable work, time, and just plain sanity
> and I am sooo over it. Everybody remember the cluster that was
> the Adobe Framemaker 10 licensing issue - the one where, apparently, the
> licensing adhered to the Mayan end of civilization timeline and all
> perpetual licenses just died on 1/1/13? That cost so many of us several
> days
> of time and money.
>
> And for another time - I had a legally purchased (from Adobe) copy of
> Acrobat Pro 9 installed and I decided to update to 10. Again, I purchased
> from Adobe and when I went to install on my new system, I got flagged w/
> the
> message that I was installing an upgrade license and that I did not have a
> previously installed copy that would allow the installation of the upgrade
> to continue, even though I provided the valid license number for 9 at the
> prompt that stated enter your previous valid license ID to continue. That
> was a whole series of events to get the challenge code, etc. which cost me
> a
> good couple of hours. Another time, and don't ask me how this happened,
> when
> I was installing Acrobat Pro 10 on another new system, I was primed and
> ready for the challenge prompt, but lo!!! Somehow, someway, my registered
> version of 9 was NOT showing up as a registered product in my list of
> products and that took ranting and raving again on the forum until Priyank
> stepped in, did some research and found out that someway, somehow, Adobe
> had
> moved my individually purchased and registered license information out of
> my
> account and had it marked as a volume license~!!! No one could explain that
> to me, so it was yet another tortuous path to get the all righted in the
> world. As yes, Adobe can get in to your account, because along w/ today's
> phone call, I also received the message that Adobe had already updated this
> new licensing information in my account and yep - when I logged in and
> checked, there was the new serial number.
>
> I really, really hope that Adobe has stepped up to the plate and resolved
> licensing issues for others out there who are experiencing this ridiculous
> issue. It shouldn't be like coming Mt. Everest w/out oxygen to get customer
> service and resolution. (Well, actually, climbing Mt. Everest w/out oxygen
> is probably simpler and safer, but I that was the best analogy I could
> think
> of in terms of how dangerous and unpredictable things can become!)
>
> I do appreciate all the support on and offlist and the many thoughts of
> commiseration I received. I just hope some of this good karma can rub off
> on
> you!!
>
> TGIF!!!
>
> TVB
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
>  On
> Behalf Of Rick Quatro
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 8:30 PM
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe 

Re: [Framers] ExtendScript function for creating a unique id

2018-06-23 Thread Rick Quatro
Thank you Klaus, I appreciate the link to your code. Rick.

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Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2018 6:54 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] ExtendScript function for creating a unique id

On 20 Jun 2018 at 16:42, Rick Quatro wrote:

> When I right + click on an element, I can choose Assign ID to Element. 
> Is there an ExtendScript function or method for doing this? Thanks.

Rick, for my temporary variables in FM-calc.jsx I wanted to have such a
function and ended up to create a time-based name: function GetTmpVarName
(oDate) See http://daube.ch/zz_tests/GetTmpVarName.jsx

HTH
Klaus
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Re: [Framers] When/which was the first 32-bit version of FM?

2018-06-23 Thread ian.proudfoot
Hi Klaus,
>From memory I was using FrameMaker 4 and then FrameBuilder on Windows 3.11.
They were both 32 bit versions running on the Win 32S 32-bit sub-system. It
was quite unreliable with the Win32s often crashing and leaving FrameMaker
running but without any connection to the OS, very weird. 

Ian

-Original Message-
From: Framers
 On Behalf
Of Klaus Daube
Sent: 23 June 2018 10:34
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] When/which was the first 32-bit version of FM?

Dear all,

We know that the first Windows port of FM was for Win 3.11 must have been a
16-bit version.
And According to the Sneak Peak review at the tekom last november we know
that a 64-bit version is in the pipeline (intended for Win7 upwards).
So I'm wondering, when the first 32-bit version of FM was issued for Windows
(and which Windows). What was the FM-version of this edition?

Any ideas?
Klaus
~~
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Schäracher 11   Mail:   kl...@daube.ch
CH-8053 Zürich  Web:www.daube.ch


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Re: [Framers] ExtendScript function for creating a unique id

2018-06-23 Thread Klaus Daube
On 20 Jun 2018 at 16:42, Rick Quatro wrote:

> When I right + click on an element, I can choose Assign ID to Element. Is
> there an ExtendScript function or method for doing this? Thanks.

Rick, for my temporary variables in FM-calc.jsx I wanted to have such a 
function and 
ended up to create a time-based name: function GetTmpVarName (oDate) 
See http://daube.ch/zz_tests/GetTmpVarName.jsx

HTH
Klaus
~~
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Schäracher 11   Mail:   kl...@daube.ch
CH-8053 Zürich  Web:www.daube.ch


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[Framers] When/which was the first 32-bit version of FM?

2018-06-23 Thread Klaus Daube
Dear all,

We know that the first Windows port of FM was for Win 3.11 must have been a 
16-bit 
version.
And According to the Sneak Peak review at the tekom last november we know that 
a 
64-bit version is in the pipeline (intended for Win7 upwards).
So I'm wondering, when the first 32-bit version of FM was issued for Windows 
(and 
which Windows). What was the FM-version of this edition?

Any ideas?
Klaus
~~
Klaus Daube Phone:  +41-44-381 37 77
Schäracher 11   Mail:   kl...@daube.ch
CH-8053 Zürich  Web:www.daube.ch


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