Re: [Framers] Losing Page Breaks in FM2015

[Peter Gold]

Stop it, stop it, stop it!!! 

I don't really use FM any more, but I watch the forum out of habit (or
addiction.) Every time some rare or obscure problem pops up, I love the
mental exercise of sweeping away the cobwebs to see if I can find what I
remember the solution(s) to be. It's rare that one or several folks in the
shared community don't pull the right stuff from their own more-recently
used memory, and post it. I smile if my own dusted-off tidbit is even close.

But, I'm finding that one can get tired from smiling. Thanks, all for
keeping me sharp and happy!

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:07 PM, Lin Sims  wrote:

> Are you inserting the page breaks after generation? That's not information
> FrameMaker retains. Every time you regenerate, you are creating the file
> from scratch.
>
> There is a Cudspan plugin called TOC Breaker than handles this situation.
> It does it by creating a reference page with information on where the
> manually inserted page breaks are. When you regenerate the file, run the
> utility again to have the page breaks restored.
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Stephanie Hutchison <
> shutchi...@mraservices.net> wrote:
>
> > We are losing page breaks during file generation (TOC, List of Figures,
> > etc.) or adding of index tags in FrameMaker 2015. Suggestions?
> >
> > We always place our tags at the end of the header or term, but that
> > doesn't always make a difference. Those are easier to catch than when the
> > breaks are lost during file generation.
> >
> > Stephanie Hutchison
> > Manager of Data Operations
> > MRA Services, Inc.
> > shutchi...@mraservices.net
> > 704-933-4300
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Re: [Framers] Losing Page Breaks in FM2015

[Lin Sims]

Are you inserting the page breaks after generation? That's not information
FrameMaker retains. Every time you regenerate, you are creating the file
from scratch.

There is a Cudspan plugin called TOC Breaker than handles this situation.
It does it by creating a reference page with information on where the
manually inserted page breaks are. When you regenerate the file, run the
utility again to have the page breaks restored.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Stephanie Hutchison <
shutchi...@mraservices.net> wrote:

> We are losing page breaks during file generation (TOC, List of Figures,
> etc.) or adding of index tags in FrameMaker 2015. Suggestions?
>
> We always place our tags at the end of the header or term, but that
> doesn't always make a difference. Those are easier to catch than when the
> breaks are lost during file generation.
>
> Stephanie Hutchison
> Manager of Data Operations
> MRA Services, Inc.
> shutchi...@mraservices.net
> 704-933-4300
>
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[Framers] Losing Page Breaks in FM2015

[Stephanie Hutchison]

We are losing page breaks during file generation (TOC, List of Figures, etc.) 
or adding of index tags in FrameMaker 2015. Suggestions?

We always place our tags at the end of the header or term, but that doesn't 
always make a difference. Those are easier to catch than when the breaks are 
lost during file generation.

Stephanie Hutchison
Manager of Data Operations
MRA Services, Inc.
shutchi...@mraservices.net
704-933-4300

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Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??

[Art Campbell]

Yes, but it's likely two factors.

First, if you're working in a book and the component files have imported by
ref graphics, you're talking hundreds of files coming from the net to your
box.

Second, unless your company is atypical, each one of those files is
virus-checked both ways, as it comes on to your box from the net and leaves
your box to the server.

This adds up to a heavy network load. The server, the network, your NIC,
and the PC all have to be up to the task.

Best fix is to work locally and use the server for backup. Subversion or
source control is great. However, I don't have that option, so I store on
my local Dropbox folder (so I have my own cloud backup) and use Microsoft
SyncToy to sync up with the server a couple times a day.

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 12:02 PM Robert Lauriston 
wrote:

> Working with FrameMaker files on a network drive is asking for trouble.
>
> To share files within a group, use Subversion or whatever source
> control system you have already.
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Caroline Tabach
>  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Our purchase of Frame went through.
> >
> > I am working on Frame 2017, with my files on the network
> >
> > In the past I always worked locally.
> >
> > FrameMaker seems a bit slow to me.
> >
> > Is this owing to working from the network?
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Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??

[Robert Lauriston]

Working with FrameMaker files on a network drive is asking for trouble.

To share files within a group, use Subversion or whatever source
control system you have already.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Caroline Tabach
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Our purchase of Frame went through.
>
> I am working on Frame 2017, with my files on the network
>
> In the past I always worked locally.
>
> FrameMaker seems a bit slow to me.
>
> Is this owing to working from the network?
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Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??

[Doug]

I had my files on the network; any time I updated the book Frame would go
black momentarily and "unresponsive" would display in the title bar.

Putting my files on C: fixed this.

Doug


On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Caroline Tabach  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Our purchase of Frame went through.
>
> I am working on Frame 2017, with my files on the network
>
> In the past I always worked locally.
>
> FrameMaker seems a bit slow to me.
>
> Is this owing to working from the network?
>
>
>
> --
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> Technical/Marcom Writer
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[Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??

[Caroline Tabach]

Hi,

Our purchase of Frame went through.

I am working on Frame 2017, with my files on the network

In the past I always worked locally.

FrameMaker seems a bit slow to me.

Is this owing to working from the network?



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Re: [Framers] API or ExtendScript function for Read Application Definitions

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Ian,

I got this working with some help from Adobe. This is the syntax:

CallClient ("FmDispatcher", "ReadAppFile " + doc.id);

Rick

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Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 6:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] API or ExtendScript function for Read Application
Definitions

Hi Rick that's odd, as I use it in a couple of applications without any
problems. I'll look at my code and see if I've missed anything.

Ian

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Subject: Re: [Framers] API or ExtendScript function for Read Application
Definitions

Hi Ian,

This doesn't appear to work. I open the custom structapps.fm document and
use this:

CallClient ("FmDispatcher", doc.id);

where doc is a valid FrameMaker document. But then when I open an XML file,
it doesn't use the settings in the custom structapps.fm. I want to read the
custom structapps.fm file and have it used for the rest of the session or
until I change it. Thanks.

Rick

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Subject: Re: [Framers] API or ExtendScript function for Read Application
Definitions

Hi Rick,
Try this for ExtendScript...

CallClient ('FmDispatcher', structappsfile.id);

Structappsfile is a FrameMaker document object and you have to pass its
Object ID as the second argument.

I hope that helps?
Ian

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Subject: [Framers] API or ExtendScript function for Read Application
Definitions

Hello Framers,

 

Is there an ExtendScript method or FDK function for the Structure >
Application Definition > Read Application Definitions? Thank you very much.

 

Rick

 

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Re: [Framers] SPAM -> Re: switching from Frame 10 to 2017 with unexpected results

[Bernard Aschwanden]

There are two locations for templates as well. One is the install directory
DITA1.2 or DITA1.3 (both more of an "author" location) and a DITA location
(for publishing). Might be that you updated in one, but not in the other. My
2 cents only.

B


-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Mike Bond
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:14 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: SPAM -> Re: [Framers] switching from Frame 10 to 2017 with
unexpected results

Ok so let me add what I have found out by looking around in the software.

It looks like it has to do with the "Paragraph Designer".

If I highlight a line in question and then unclick the "Autonumber
Paragraphs" the numbering goes away.

How do I set it up so that the numbers don't come up by default?

Thanks,

Mike



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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Mike Bond
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 8:33 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] switching from Frame 10 to 2017 with unexpected results



I have switched to this FrameMaker 2017 and finally ran a compile saving a
uder.ditamap as .fm and got added numbering.

Almost everything has a number before it. I am guessing that there is a
different EDD maybe but I will ask someone who knows more about this stuff
than I do.

Thanks in advance.

Mike



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Re: [Framers] switching from Frame 10 to 2017 with unexpected results

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Mike,

Something is wrong at the template level. You shouldn't be getting the
numbering in the first place. If you want to set up a meeting, please
contact me offlist. Thanks.

Rick

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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Mike Bond
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:14 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] switching from Frame 10 to 2017 with unexpected
results

Ok so let me add what I have found out by looking around in the software.

It looks like it has to do with the "Paragraph Designer".

If I highlight a line in question and then unclick the "Autonumber
Paragraphs" the numbering goes away.

How do I set it up so that the numbers don't come up by default?

Thanks,

Mike



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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Mike Bond
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 8:33 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] switching from Frame 10 to 2017 with unexpected results



I have switched to this FrameMaker 2017 and finally ran a compile saving a
uder.ditamap as .fm and got added numbering.

Almost everything has a number before it. I am guessing that there is a
different EDD maybe but I will ask someone who knows more about this stuff
than I do.

Thanks in advance.

Mike



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Michael Bond



Engineering Technician





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Ambrell Corporation



an inTEST Company

1655 Lyell Avenue | Rochester, NY 14606 | USA

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mb...@ambrell.com |
www.ambrell.com



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Re: [Framers] switching from Frame 10 to 2017 with unexpected results

[Mike Bond]

Ok so let me add what I have found out by looking around in the software.

It looks like it has to do with the "Paragraph Designer".

If I highlight a line in question and then unclick the "Autonumber Paragraphs" 
the numbering goes away.

How do I set it up so that the numbers don't come up by default?

Thanks,

Mike



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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Mike Bond
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 8:33 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] switching from Frame 10 to 2017 with unexpected results



I have switched to this FrameMaker 2017 and finally ran a compile saving a 
uder.ditamap as .fm and got added numbering.

Almost everything has a number before it. I am guessing that there is a 
different EDD maybe but I will ask someone who knows more about this stuff than 
I do.

Thanks in advance.

Mike



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Michael Bond



Engineering Technician





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Ambrell Corporation



an inTEST Company

1655 Lyell Avenue | Rochester, NY 14606 | USA

P: +1 585 889 9000 x145 | F: +1 585 889 4030

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Re: [Framers] Lock file feature

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Adobe should also add a checkbox to turn off the lock feature on the 
local machine also. There really is no reason to have the lock feature 
if I'm working on my local machine. Who else could be working on my 
files at the same time?


Adobe people: Please add this to your list of feature requests.

--
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
058-763-7133


On 16-Aug-18 12:15 PM, Carrie Baker wrote:


Thanks for this info.
I have to put my files on the network and did not understand why all were
locked today when I opened

בתאריך יום ד׳, 15 באוג׳ 2018, 22:52, מאת ‏:


Hi Rick and Fred,

Thank you! I will do that. I never had to mess w/ this setting before, so I
vaguely remembered something about it, but wasn't sure if my memory served
me correctly. Nope, although I am on our home network, I am the only
writer,
so I will go clear this option now.

Thank you again!

TVB


-Original Message-
From: Framers
 On
Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 1:50 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'

Subject: Re: [Framers] An annoying FM 12 "feature"

Unless you are routinely storing your files on a shared drive where other
FrameMaker users will be accessing them, I strongly recommend turning off
the "Network file locking" option in the user preferences. If you are the
only writer, or if all writers keep their working files on their local
drive
(which is generally advised to avoid problems caused by potentially slow
file access over your network), there is no benefit to enabling the locking
feature. FrameMaker's locking feature is an ancient implementation that
uses
the most primitive mechanism, and it truly has outlived its usefulness.


-FR



From: Framers 
on
behalf of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 3:40 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
Subject: [Framers] An annoying FM 12 "feature"

Hi All,



OK, I have tested this one for several applications that you use .temp or
the equivalent of .lck files and in Frame 12 after I save and close a file
or a book, the .lck file is not always being cleared. I noticed this early
on in FM 12 but I guess because I am using FM 12 now exclusively, it has
become more apparent to me. Of course, when I attempt to open a file or
book
that I have saved and closed, I don’t expect to receive that annoying
“Locked file” message that requires the extra step of unlocking the
file/book before use.



Case in point – I just updated a book, generated the PDF and because I was
satisfied with the PDF, I saved all the files in the book, closed all files
in the book, and then when I went to close the book, I got an expected
message about saving changes to the book (based on what I had done to the
book) and I clicked Yes. The book closed.



I just went back to open the book, and from File > Open, and then selecting
the book, I get the message that the book is locked, yada, yada, yada. I
opened the book’s directory in Windows Explorer, and voilá, not only was
there a lock file for the book but also for all the individual FM files
even
though I had saved and closed them first.



This is driving me nuts.



I opened some Office docs., like for example a Windows doc, then opened a
second session of the same doc., and got the expected .temp files and
read-only messages, but when I closed and saved the files, the .temp files
were gone from my directory. I tested other file types as well like this
and
FM is the ONLY application that is giving me this persistency issue.



Anyone else seen this problem with FM12? I am running Win 10, all updated,
64-bit system.



Thanks!



Tammy Van Boening

Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com


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Re: [Framers] An annoying FM 12 "feature"

[Carrie Baker]

Thanks for this info.
I have to put my files on the network and did not understand why all were
locked today when I opened

בתאריך יום ד׳, 15 באוג׳ 2018, 22:52, מאת ‏:

> Hi Rick and Fred,
>
> Thank you! I will do that. I never had to mess w/ this setting before, so I
> vaguely remembered something about it, but wasn't sure if my memory served
> me correctly. Nope, although I am on our home network, I am the only
> writer,
> so I will go clear this option now.
>
> Thank you again!
>
> TVB
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
>  On
> Behalf Of Fred Ridder
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 1:50 PM
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] An annoying FM 12 "feature"
>
> Unless you are routinely storing your files on a shared drive where other
> FrameMaker users will be accessing them, I strongly recommend turning off
> the "Network file locking" option in the user preferences. If you are the
> only writer, or if all writers keep their working files on their local
> drive
> (which is generally advised to avoid problems caused by potentially slow
> file access over your network), there is no benefit to enabling the locking
> feature. FrameMaker's locking feature is an ancient implementation that
> uses
> the most primitive mechanism, and it truly has outlived its usefulness.
>
>
> -FR
>
>
> 
> From: Framers 
> on
> behalf of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 3:40 PM
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> Subject: [Framers] An annoying FM 12 "feature"
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> OK, I have tested this one for several applications that you use .temp or
> the equivalent of .lck files and in Frame 12 after I save and close a file
> or a book, the .lck file is not always being cleared. I noticed this early
> on in FM 12 but I guess because I am using FM 12 now exclusively, it has
> become more apparent to me. Of course, when I attempt to open a file or
> book
> that I have saved and closed, I don’t expect to receive that annoying
> “Locked file” message that requires the extra step of unlocking the
> file/book before use.
>
>
>
> Case in point – I just updated a book, generated the PDF and because I was
> satisfied with the PDF, I saved all the files in the book, closed all files
> in the book, and then when I went to close the book, I got an expected
> message about saving changes to the book (based on what I had done to the
> book) and I clicked Yes. The book closed.
>
>
>
> I just went back to open the book, and from File > Open, and then selecting
> the book, I get the message that the book is locked, yada, yada, yada. I
> opened the book’s directory in Windows Explorer, and voilá, not only was
> there a lock file for the book but also for all the individual FM files
> even
> though I had saved and closed them first.
>
>
>
> This is driving me nuts.
>
>
>
> I opened some Office docs., like for example a Windows doc, then opened a
> second session of the same doc., and got the expected .temp files and
> read-only messages, but when I closed and saved the files, the .temp files
> were gone from my directory. I tested other file types as well like this
> and
> FM is the ONLY application that is giving me this persistency issue.
>
>
>
> Anyone else seen this problem with FM12? I am running Win 10, all updated,
> 64-bit system.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
>
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