Re: [Framers] : How Install FrameMaker Update Patches on Old FM Versions?

[Kevin Ryan]

Robert, thanks a major bunch for the suggestion to run the patch exe files in 
XP compatibility mode! That worked and I now have the patches I need on my new 
PC. I wanted the FM patches to be up to date because I am still trying to get 
mif2go to work on the new PC.

My management does not think kindly of PDFs books. It thinks a hierarchical set 
of interlinked topic pages is always the way to go.  It was all I could do to 
establish a routine of including attached PDFs (created from Confluence space 
export) to the front summary page of my online Confluence guides. Confluence's 
native PDF generator is good for interlinks and bookmarks, but tends to be 
pretty ugly and to do silly things like vanish random images, break pages 
wrong, and resize (screw up) PDF sub-heading font sizes automatically under the 
misapprehension that it knows what it's doing. Our long-term customers probably 
sensed the quality loss when we shifted from FM-generated to 
Confluence-generated PDFs. If our customers start complaining about PDF quality 
I might be able to justify the Scroll PDF Exporter option you describe (and 
thanks for the "separate instance" tip, which I'll keep in mind).

"How am I using MIf2Go to migrate  to Confluence":  A few years back I pored 
over posts to this list from Jeremy and you about this task, and I benefited 
from your suggestions then and from the beta version of Mif2go Jeremy produced 
that has Confluence-related flags in its INI file. I have a bare-bones function 
that Mif2go serves:  Take our image-laden, multi-character-font-infested 
FrameMaker files, strip their images, and map about a dozen different colors 
and fonts of FM character formats to Confluence's simpler/more minimalistic 
Bold/Not Bold character formatting. Also to map FM headings to an analogous 
hierarchy of HTML headings. I've had an INI file I made just for this "FM to 
Confluence" purpose and it's gratifying for me just to be able to paste the 
Mif2Go html output into the "<>" Source Editor of individual Confluence pages 
within my online guides.  Then I update the content in Confluence to our 
current product and add fresh images.

And thanks, Ragnar.  It's good to know the 7.2 version is stable in Windows 10.

Thanks again everyone for your help here!

Kevin



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Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

[Rick Quatro]

That's why I will sometimes do free demos or prototypes or short videos of a 
similar script. Some managers have no clue about the bottlenecks that 
writers/editors run into, but when they see something take 30 seconds that used 
to take all week, they suddenly get interested.

 

From: A Craig  
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; Rick Quatro 
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I've worked for many a "penny wise and pound foolish" employer over the years...

 

Alison

 

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mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> >
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

 

Speaking for myself, I say lazy and hard-headed. I can't stand doing "monkey
work." Automation has made work more tolerable and efficient for clients and
me. When a potential client tells me that they can't spend money on scripts,
I wonder if their managers know how much time and accuracy is lost through
doing repetitive tasks manually.

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From: Framers mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com> > On
Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:03 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

Lin, this proves that not only is FM really smart, but the FM community is
brilliantly self-correcting! ;)

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 7:15 AM Lin Sims mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com> > wrote:

> I take it back. You can do anything in Frame if you put your mind to it!
>
>
>
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Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

[A Craig]

I've worked for many a "penny wise and pound foolish" employer over the 
years... 

Alison 


From: "Rick Quatro"  
To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 18 December, 2019 08:29:35 
Subject: Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder? 

Speaking for myself, I say lazy and hard-headed. I can't stand doing "monkey 
work." Automation has made work more tolerable and efficient for clients and 
me. When a potential client tells me that they can't spend money on scripts, 
I wonder if their managers know how much time and accuracy is lost through 
doing repetitive tasks manually. 

-Original Message- 
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Peter Gold 
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:03 AM 
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
 
Subject: Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder? 

Lin, this proves that not only is FM really smart, but the FM community is 
brilliantly self-correcting! ;) 

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 7:15 AM Lin Sims  wrote: 

> I take it back. You can do anything in Frame if you put your mind to it! 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

[Lin Sims]

I automate as much as I can, and for that very reason. A few weeks ago, I
learned how to create a Quick Step in Outlook (company email, you know how
it is) that automates the emails I send asking for document reviews or
announcing released documents. I was really please to find I could set up
recipients and content like that. (MS does not make it easy.)

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 11:29 AM Rick Quatro  wrote:

> Speaking for myself, I say lazy and hard-headed. I can't stand doing
> "monkey
> work." Automation has made work more tolerable and efficient for clients
> and
> me. When a potential client tells me that they can't spend money on
> scripts,
> I wonder if their managers know how much time and accuracy is lost through
> doing repetitive tasks manually.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> On
> Behalf Of Peter Gold
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:03 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?
>
> Lin, this proves that not only is FM really smart, but the FM community is
> brilliantly self-correcting! ;)
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 7:15 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> > I take it back. You can do anything in Frame if you put your mind to it!
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

[Rick Quatro]

Speaking for myself, I say lazy and hard-headed. I can't stand doing "monkey
work." Automation has made work more tolerable and efficient for clients and
me. When a potential client tells me that they can't spend money on scripts,
I wonder if their managers know how much time and accuracy is lost through
doing repetitive tasks manually.

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:03 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

Lin, this proves that not only is FM really smart, but the FM community is
brilliantly self-correcting! ;)

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 7:15 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> I take it back. You can do anything in Frame if you put your mind to it!
>
>
>
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Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

[Peter Gold]

Lin, this proves that not only is FM really smart, but the FM community is
brilliantly self-correcting! ;)

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 7:15 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> I take it back. You can do anything in Frame if you put your mind to it!
>
>
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Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

[Lin Sims]

I take it back. You can do anything in Frame if you put your mind to it!

Thank you for the information, Klaus. I may look into it.

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 6:15 AM Klaus Daube  wrote:

> On 17 Dec 2019 at 11:25, Lin Sims wrote:
>
> > For example, table footnotes are always at the *very end* of the table.
> If
> > you have a multipage table, that can be a real nuisance.
>
> At the pre-Tekom *Adobe TC Partner Conference 2019* this November Jang
> Graat  showed me a script that does this:
> Convert table footnotes to ordinary footnotes.
> He is also currently developing Frexels: calculating in tables à la
> Excel...
>
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> hoops» ...
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Re: [Framers] How Install FrameMaker Update Patches on Old FM Versions?

[Ragnar Hanås]

I have been using FM 7.2 with Win 10 for almost a year now without problems. 
There are 2 patches, and which you should install depends on which version of 
FM 7.2 you are installing. I can't remember exactly what I did, but got it 
working after some experimenting. Even less crashes than with Win 8.1
Ragnar Hanas
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Subject: Re: [Framers] How Install FrameMaker Update Patches on Old FM Versions?

I do not think Frame 7.2 is supported on Windows 10.

I used it on Vista! With a windows XP emulator (of some type)

Caroline Tabach

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019, 01:01 Kevin Ryan,  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We are migrating and updating scads of accumulated FrameMaker 
> documents into Confluence, using the old FrameMaker version 7.2 (with 
> MIf2Go as a converter).  Yes, I know this is an old version, but it works.
>
> My old PC is being decommissioned and I'm reinstalling FrameMaker 7.2 
> on a new Windows 10 machine.  When I visit the FrameMaker patch web 
> page at 
> https://supportdownloads.adobe.com/product.jsp?product=22=Win
> dows I see two patches applicable for FrameMaker 7.2 that I want to 
> install.  My problem is I forget just how I am supposed to handle the 
> downloaded patches' Zip folders.  When I unzip it one in place within 
> the Downloads folder and click its contained setup.exe program, a 
> wizard starts but gives me an ominous "Severe" error popup (not 
> elaborating what is so severe), followed by an off-the-wall message 
> that "The system is running very low on disk. You need to free up at 
> least 40 MB of space" when in fact my hard drive has plenty of space.
>
> Alternatively, I also tried clicking Help > Updates from within the 
> FrameMaker program itself, but this produces a pop up "Uploading Adobe 
> Online Components" highlighting "AWEXFiles.txt" followed by a message 
> that reads "There was a problem connecting to Adobe Online" and "Adobe 
> Online Error;File Could Not Be Downloaded."
>
> Am I doing something wrong?  Any tips from you FrameMaker mavens would 
> be appreciated. Maybe it's an Adobe end-of-life statement for version 7.2.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kevin Ryan
>
> Harriscomputer
>
> Kevin Ryan
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Re: [Framers] How Install FrameMaker Update Patches on Old FM Versions?

[Caroline Tabach]

I do not think Frame 7.2 is supported on Windows 10.

I used it on Vista! With a windows XP emulator (of some type)

Caroline Tabach

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019, 01:01 Kevin Ryan,  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We are migrating and updating scads of accumulated FrameMaker documents
> into Confluence, using the old FrameMaker version 7.2 (with MIf2Go as a
> converter).  Yes, I know this is an old version, but it works.
>
> My old PC is being decommissioned and I'm reinstalling FrameMaker 7.2 on a
> new Windows 10 machine.  When I visit the FrameMaker patch web page at
> https://supportdownloads.adobe.com/product.jsp?product=22=Windows
> I see two patches applicable for FrameMaker 7.2 that I want to install.  My
> problem is I forget just how I am supposed to handle the downloaded
> patches' Zip folders.  When I unzip it one in place within the Downloads
> folder and click its contained setup.exe program, a wizard starts but gives
> me an ominous "Severe" error popup (not elaborating what is so severe),
> followed by an off-the-wall message that "The system is running very low on
> disk. You need to free up at least 40 MB of space" when in fact my hard
> drive has plenty of space.
>
> Alternatively, I also tried clicking Help > Updates from within the
> FrameMaker program itself, but this produces a pop up "Uploading Adobe
> Online Components" highlighting "AWEXFiles.txt" followed by a message that
> reads "There was a problem connecting to Adobe Online" and "Adobe Online
> Error;File Could Not Be Downloaded."
>
> Am I doing something wrong?  Any tips from you FrameMaker mavens would be
> appreciated. Maybe it's an Adobe end-of-life statement for version 7.2.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kevin Ryan
>
> Harriscomputer
>
> Kevin Ryan
> Technical Writer, Research & Development
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Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

[Klaus Daube]

On 17 Dec 2019 at 11:25, Lin Sims wrote:

> For example, table footnotes are always at the *very end* of the table. If
> you have a multipage table, that can be a real nuisance. 

At the pre-Tekom Adobe TC Partner Conference 2019 this November Jang Graat 
 showed me a script that does this: Convert table 
footnotes 
to ordinary footnotes.
He is also currently developing Frexels: calculating in tables à la Excel...

Jang maintains a FrameMaker circus: «Make FrameMaker to jump through hoops» ...

Klaus

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