Re: [Framers] Batch Publish Multiple of Same Type of Output
Hi, Lynne: Thanks for confirming that my memory of FrameMaker's arcane quirks is nearly as persistent as Dali's representation: https://mymodernmet.com/the-persistence-of-memory-salvador-dali/ On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 9:05 AM Lynne A. Price wrote: > Peter, > Yes, multiple instances of FM can be running at the same time on > the same machine. I often have one instance in which I work on > application development and another in which I test the environment I > will provide to end users. > --Lynne > > On 12/19/2019 8:30 PM, Peter Gold wrote: > > In the olden days, you could run multiple instances of FM from a single > > installation on a single PC, just by re-launching it. Not sure this is > > possible now. > > > -- > Lynne A. Price > Text Structure Consulting, Inc. > Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, > and training > lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com > voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Condition expression for conditional text
On 12/20/2019 10:38 AM, Doug wrote: What worked was applying a single condition tag that was named for the multiple conditions. ... That worked as I had hoped, I even was able to use the Show As Per Condition section instead of the Show As Per Expression section. Doug, Yes, you can define a tag for each possible combination of books and outputs in which you want particular text shown. Doing so allows you to use Show/Hide instead of conditional expressions. You'll have to define many more condition tags with this approach. If you ever add more books or have different combinations (such as content included in books 40 and 41 but neither 42 nor 44), the number or tags will become much larger. --Lynne -- Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Condition expression for conditional text
Doug, I agree with Lin, that it is more straightforward to avoid "negative" tags that would have been used to indicate when you don't want content included. Like him, I would use six tags: 40, 41, 42, 44, PDF, and HTML and apply one or more of them to content that doesn't appear in all publications. If something is needed in all books except 44, then apply 40, 41, and 42. Remember that FM provides two ways of specifying what conditional tags to use: 1. For each condition, specify whether it is to be shown or hidden. If more than one condition applies to particular content, FM shows it if any of the tags or shown. 2. Define conditional expressions which are boolean expressions and give you much more control over display of content to which you've applied multiple tags. In your situation, you must use conditional expressions. You'll need 8 of them, one for PDF and one for HTML for each chapter. Use View > Show/Hide Conditional Text to define all 8 of them in the chapter and then apply the one you want. There are a couple of problems with the expressions Doug has used. I believe the tag names have to be in quotes. Also, Doug has started his expression for the PDF version of book 40 with: not ("41" or "42" or "44" or "HTML") That will exclude anything with tagged 40 and any of the other book tags. In particular, it will exclude your "except 44" case, which will be tagged with 40, 41, and 42. Instead, assuming you will never tag something with both HTML and PDF, you can use simply: "40" and not("PDF") The other 7 expressions follow this model. --Lynne On 12/20/2019 8:38 AM, Doug wrote: I'm currently editing a chapter that is common to four books. The books are 40, 41, 42, and 44. Some content isn't applicable to book 44, so I've set up a condition tag named "Not 44". On 12/20/2019 9:35 AM, Lin Sims wrote: For Book 40, PDF: not (41 or 42 or 44 or HTML) and not (40 and HTML) For Book 40, HTML: not (41 or 42 or 44 or PDF) and not (40 and PDF) -- Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Condition expression for conditional text
Lin, Looks like that works. I had been trying to apply multiple condition tags to the HTML (and PDF) sections, but that wasn't working. What worked was applying a single condition tag that was named for the multiple conditions. For instance, instead of applying the following four tags: "40"+"41"+"42"+"HTML" I applied the single tag: "40,41,42,HTML" (and for the PDF I applied "40,41,42,PDF" ) That worked as I had hoped, I even was able to use the Show As Per Condition section instead of the Show As Per Expression section. Your help was essential. Thanks. Doug ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Condition expression for conditional text
Thanks Lin, I'll give it a shot. On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 12:42 PM Lin Sims wrote: > Err, by repeat for each book, I mean duplicate the expressions but editing > them appropriately. So Book 40, which is your special one, uses almost the > identical expression: > > Book 44, PDF: not (40 or 41 or 42 or HTML) and not (44 and HTML) > Book 44, HTML: not (40 or 41 or 42 or PDF) and not (44 and PDF) > > I think you can see from this how the expressions would need to be edited > for 41 and 42? > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 12:35 PM Lin Sims wrote: > > > Conditioning text works best if you keep it consistent: all of your > > conditions should be constructed either for the information you DO want > to > > appear in a specific document or for information you DON'T want to appear > > in a specific document. Making some conditions for information you want > in > > and some you want out is, as you're discovering, hard to work with, > > especially when you have some of the conditions on a piece of information > > are for showing and some are for hiding. > > > > Over the years, I've found that it is far, far easier to tag for the > > documents you want the information to be IN. > > > > For example, in your case, if the information is only visible in 41, tag > > it with 41 but not 40, 42, or 44. If it's visible in 40, 41, and 42 but > not > > 44, tag it with 40, 41, and 42 but not 44. Yes, it seems like extra work, > > but it produces consistent results. > > > > You also have two output conditions, PDF or HTML. This is where things > get > > trickier and where expressions come into play because you have to > carefully > > describe the information you want to be visible when there are multiple > > tags on the text. (The problem with using the Show/Hide panes is that if > > you have multiple tags on the text, using the Show/Hide panes means that > > the text will be visible if even one tag is in the Show pane.) > > > > If you tag the way I suggest, I believe the following will work: > > > > For Book 40, PDF: not (41 or 42 or 44 or HTML) and not (40 and HTML) > > For Book 40, HTML: not (41 or 42 or 44 or PDF) and not (40 and PDF) > > > > and repeat for each book. > > > > One of these days, I ought to write up an article on complex conditional > > expressions. At one point, I was handling a set of files with 10 > different > > outputs arising from 15 different conditions. The expressions were ... > > complicated. And very, very long. I actually used multiple tables to > figure > > out the combinations needed to produce the output I wanted. > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 11:38 AM Doug wrote: > > > >> Things are getting complicated. > >> > >> I'm currently editing a chapter that is common to four books. The books > >> are 40, 41, 42, and 44. Some content isn't applicable to book 44, so > I've > >> set up a condition tag named "Not 44". > >> > >> The problematic content sections use the tags (Not 44+PDF) and (Not > >> 44+HTML), since some content is PDF-only and other content is HTML only. > >> Needless to say, these bits of content are applicable to 40, 41, and 42 > >> (but not 44). > >> > >> Is using "Not 44" a bad condition? I feel it must be because when I > Show > >> As Per Expression it shows both the (Not 44+PDF) and (Not 44+HTML) > >> sections, I assume because the expression says in include "Not 44" > >> content. It's as if the parentheses don't mean anything. > >> > >> Some content is unique to each book (4 condition possibilities) > >> Some is common to some books > >> Some is common to all books > >> Some is PDF > >> Some is HTML > >> > >> Ideas? Thanks. > >> ___ > >> > >> This message is from the Framers mailing list > >> > >> Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > >> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > >> Archives located at > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > >> Subscribe and unsubscribe at > >> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > >> > > > > > > -- > > Lin Sims > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send
Re: [Framers] Condition expression for conditional text
Book 44 ... damnit. Tpyos r me. On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 12:42 PM Lin Sims wrote: > Err, by repeat for each book, I mean duplicate the expressions but editing > them appropriately. So Book 40, which is your special one, uses almost the > identical expression: > > Book 44, PDF: not (40 or 41 or 42 or HTML) and not (44 and HTML) > Book 44, HTML: not (40 or 41 or 42 or PDF) and not (44 and PDF) > > I think you can see from this how the expressions would need to be edited > for 41 and 42? > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 12:35 PM Lin Sims wrote: > >> Conditioning text works best if you keep it consistent: all of your >> conditions should be constructed either for the information you DO want to >> appear in a specific document or for information you DON'T want to appear >> in a specific document. Making some conditions for information you want in >> and some you want out is, as you're discovering, hard to work with, >> especially when you have some of the conditions on a piece of information >> are for showing and some are for hiding. >> >> Over the years, I've found that it is far, far easier to tag for the >> documents you want the information to be IN. >> >> For example, in your case, if the information is only visible in 41, tag >> it with 41 but not 40, 42, or 44. If it's visible in 40, 41, and 42 but not >> 44, tag it with 40, 41, and 42 but not 44. Yes, it seems like extra work, >> but it produces consistent results. >> >> You also have two output conditions, PDF or HTML. This is where things >> get trickier and where expressions come into play because you have to >> carefully describe the information you want to be visible when there are >> multiple tags on the text. (The problem with using the Show/Hide panes is >> that if you have multiple tags on the text, using the Show/Hide panes means >> that the text will be visible if even one tag is in the Show pane.) >> >> If you tag the way I suggest, I believe the following will work: >> >> For Book 40, PDF: not (41 or 42 or 44 or HTML) and not (40 and HTML) >> For Book 40, HTML: not (41 or 42 or 44 or PDF) and not (40 and PDF) >> >> and repeat for each book. >> >> One of these days, I ought to write up an article on complex conditional >> expressions. At one point, I was handling a set of files with 10 different >> outputs arising from 15 different conditions. The expressions were ... >> complicated. And very, very long. I actually used multiple tables to figure >> out the combinations needed to produce the output I wanted. >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 11:38 AM Doug wrote: >> >>> Things are getting complicated. >>> >>> I'm currently editing a chapter that is common to four books. The books >>> are 40, 41, 42, and 44. Some content isn't applicable to book 44, so >>> I've >>> set up a condition tag named "Not 44". >>> >>> The problematic content sections use the tags (Not 44+PDF) and (Not >>> 44+HTML), since some content is PDF-only and other content is HTML only. >>> Needless to say, these bits of content are applicable to 40, 41, and 42 >>> (but not 44). >>> >>> Is using "Not 44" a bad condition? I feel it must be because when I Show >>> As Per Expression it shows both the (Not 44+PDF) and (Not 44+HTML) >>> sections, I assume because the expression says in include "Not 44" >>> content. It's as if the parentheses don't mean anything. >>> >>> Some content is unique to each book (4 condition possibilities) >>> Some is common to some books >>> Some is common to all books >>> Some is PDF >>> Some is HTML >>> >>> Ideas? Thanks. >>> ___ >>> >>> This message is from the Framers mailing list >>> >>> Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com >>> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >>> Archives located at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >>> Subscribe and unsubscribe at >>> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >>> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Lin Sims >> > > > -- > Lin Sims > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Condition expression for conditional text
Err, by repeat for each book, I mean duplicate the expressions but editing them appropriately. So Book 40, which is your special one, uses almost the identical expression: Book 44, PDF: not (40 or 41 or 42 or HTML) and not (44 and HTML) Book 44, HTML: not (40 or 41 or 42 or PDF) and not (44 and PDF) I think you can see from this how the expressions would need to be edited for 41 and 42? On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 12:35 PM Lin Sims wrote: > Conditioning text works best if you keep it consistent: all of your > conditions should be constructed either for the information you DO want to > appear in a specific document or for information you DON'T want to appear > in a specific document. Making some conditions for information you want in > and some you want out is, as you're discovering, hard to work with, > especially when you have some of the conditions on a piece of information > are for showing and some are for hiding. > > Over the years, I've found that it is far, far easier to tag for the > documents you want the information to be IN. > > For example, in your case, if the information is only visible in 41, tag > it with 41 but not 40, 42, or 44. If it's visible in 40, 41, and 42 but not > 44, tag it with 40, 41, and 42 but not 44. Yes, it seems like extra work, > but it produces consistent results. > > You also have two output conditions, PDF or HTML. This is where things get > trickier and where expressions come into play because you have to carefully > describe the information you want to be visible when there are multiple > tags on the text. (The problem with using the Show/Hide panes is that if > you have multiple tags on the text, using the Show/Hide panes means that > the text will be visible if even one tag is in the Show pane.) > > If you tag the way I suggest, I believe the following will work: > > For Book 40, PDF: not (41 or 42 or 44 or HTML) and not (40 and HTML) > For Book 40, HTML: not (41 or 42 or 44 or PDF) and not (40 and PDF) > > and repeat for each book. > > One of these days, I ought to write up an article on complex conditional > expressions. At one point, I was handling a set of files with 10 different > outputs arising from 15 different conditions. The expressions were ... > complicated. And very, very long. I actually used multiple tables to figure > out the combinations needed to produce the output I wanted. > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 11:38 AM Doug wrote: > >> Things are getting complicated. >> >> I'm currently editing a chapter that is common to four books. The books >> are 40, 41, 42, and 44. Some content isn't applicable to book 44, so I've >> set up a condition tag named "Not 44". >> >> The problematic content sections use the tags (Not 44+PDF) and (Not >> 44+HTML), since some content is PDF-only and other content is HTML only. >> Needless to say, these bits of content are applicable to 40, 41, and 42 >> (but not 44). >> >> Is using "Not 44" a bad condition? I feel it must be because when I Show >> As Per Expression it shows both the (Not 44+PDF) and (Not 44+HTML) >> sections, I assume because the expression says in include "Not 44" >> content. It's as if the parentheses don't mean anything. >> >> Some content is unique to each book (4 condition possibilities) >> Some is common to some books >> Some is common to all books >> Some is PDF >> Some is HTML >> >> Ideas? Thanks. >> ___ >> >> This message is from the Framers mailing list >> >> Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >> Archives located at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >> Subscribe and unsubscribe at >> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com >> > > > -- > Lin Sims > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Condition expression for conditional text
Conditioning text works best if you keep it consistent: all of your conditions should be constructed either for the information you DO want to appear in a specific document or for information you DON'T want to appear in a specific document. Making some conditions for information you want in and some you want out is, as you're discovering, hard to work with, especially when you have some of the conditions on a piece of information are for showing and some are for hiding. Over the years, I've found that it is far, far easier to tag for the documents you want the information to be IN. For example, in your case, if the information is only visible in 41, tag it with 41 but not 40, 42, or 44. If it's visible in 40, 41, and 42 but not 44, tag it with 40, 41, and 42 but not 44. Yes, it seems like extra work, but it produces consistent results. You also have two output conditions, PDF or HTML. This is where things get trickier and where expressions come into play because you have to carefully describe the information you want to be visible when there are multiple tags on the text. (The problem with using the Show/Hide panes is that if you have multiple tags on the text, using the Show/Hide panes means that the text will be visible if even one tag is in the Show pane.) If you tag the way I suggest, I believe the following will work: For Book 40, PDF: not (41 or 42 or 44 or HTML) and not (40 and HTML) For Book 40, HTML: not (41 or 42 or 44 or PDF) and not (40 and PDF) and repeat for each book. One of these days, I ought to write up an article on complex conditional expressions. At one point, I was handling a set of files with 10 different outputs arising from 15 different conditions. The expressions were ... complicated. And very, very long. I actually used multiple tables to figure out the combinations needed to produce the output I wanted. On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 11:38 AM Doug wrote: > Things are getting complicated. > > I'm currently editing a chapter that is common to four books. The books > are 40, 41, 42, and 44. Some content isn't applicable to book 44, so I've > set up a condition tag named "Not 44". > > The problematic content sections use the tags (Not 44+PDF) and (Not > 44+HTML), since some content is PDF-only and other content is HTML only. > Needless to say, these bits of content are applicable to 40, 41, and 42 > (but not 44). > > Is using "Not 44" a bad condition? I feel it must be because when I Show > As Per Expression it shows both the (Not 44+PDF) and (Not 44+HTML) > sections, I assume because the expression says in include "Not 44" > content. It's as if the parentheses don't mean anything. > > Some content is unique to each book (4 condition possibilities) > Some is common to some books > Some is common to all books > Some is PDF > Some is HTML > > Ideas? Thanks. > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FM Trial
Shouldn't be - you haven't got a serial number yet, so there's nothing tying you to it. From: Framers on behalf of John Posada Sent: December 20, 2019 11:54 AM To: FrameUsers List Subject: [Framers] FM Trial Hi, guys...I'm about 10 days into the trial period and my company has approved the purchase. It's going to take a few days. In the meantime, my hardware has developed an issue and I'm pretty sure they are going to swap out my machine. If they do that, am I going to have any issue getting FM reinstalled as a trial if the purchase doesn't go through by the time the new machine arrives? Thanks -- John Posada ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] FM Trial
Hi, guys...I'm about 10 days into the trial period and my company has approved the purchase. It's going to take a few days. In the meantime, my hardware has developed an issue and I'm pretty sure they are going to swap out my machine. If they do that, am I going to have any issue getting FM reinstalled as a trial if the purchase doesn't go through by the time the new machine arrives? Thanks -- John Posada ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Condition expression for conditional text
Nevermind. I misread. On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 11:38 AM Doug wrote: > Things are getting complicated. > > I'm currently editing a chapter that is common to four books. The books > are 40, 41, 42, and 44. Some content isn't applicable to book 44, so I've > set up a condition tag named "Not 44". > > The problematic content sections use the tags (Not 44+PDF) and (Not > 44+HTML), since some content is PDF-only and other content is HTML only. > Needless to say, these bits of content are applicable to 40, 41, and 42 > (but not 44). > > Is using "Not 44" a bad condition? I feel it must be because when I Show > As Per Expression it shows both the (Not 44+PDF) and (Not 44+HTML) > sections, I assume because the expression says in include "Not 44" > content. It's as if the parentheses don't mean anything. > > Some content is unique to each book (4 condition possibilities) > Some is common to some books > Some is common to all books > Some is PDF > Some is HTML > > Ideas? Thanks. > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Condition expression for conditional text
If the chapter isn't needed in the book, then exclude the chapter from the book. No conditional tagging needed. Sean On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 11:38 AM Doug wrote: > Things are getting complicated. > > I'm currently editing a chapter that is common to four books. The books > are 40, 41, 42, and 44. Some content isn't applicable to book 44, so I've > set up a condition tag named "Not 44". > > The problematic content sections use the tags (Not 44+PDF) and (Not > 44+HTML), since some content is PDF-only and other content is HTML only. > Needless to say, these bits of content are applicable to 40, 41, and 42 > (but not 44). > > Is using "Not 44" a bad condition? I feel it must be because when I Show > As Per Expression it shows both the (Not 44+PDF) and (Not 44+HTML) > sections, I assume because the expression says in include "Not 44" > content. It's as if the parentheses don't mean anything. > > Some content is unique to each book (4 condition possibilities) > Some is common to some books > Some is common to all books > Some is PDF > Some is HTML > > Ideas? Thanks. > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Condition expression for conditional text
Things are getting complicated. I'm currently editing a chapter that is common to four books. The books are 40, 41, 42, and 44. Some content isn't applicable to book 44, so I've set up a condition tag named "Not 44". The problematic content sections use the tags (Not 44+PDF) and (Not 44+HTML), since some content is PDF-only and other content is HTML only. Needless to say, these bits of content are applicable to 40, 41, and 42 (but not 44). Is using "Not 44" a bad condition? I feel it must be because when I Show As Per Expression it shows both the (Not 44+PDF) and (Not 44+HTML) sections, I assume because the expression says in include "Not 44" content. It's as if the parentheses don't mean anything. Some content is unique to each book (4 condition possibilities) Some is common to some books Some is common to all books Some is PDF Some is HTML Ideas? Thanks. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Batch Publish Multiple of Same Type of Output
Peter, Yes, multiple instances of FM can be running at the same time on the same machine. I often have one instance in which I work on application development and another in which I test the environment I will provide to end users. --Lynne On 12/19/2019 8:30 PM, Peter Gold wrote: In the olden days, you could run multiple instances of FM from a single installation on a single PC, just by re-launching it. Not sure this is possible now. -- Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com