Re: [Framers] Help with setting up a paragraph tag in the TOC

2021-03-15 Thread tammyvb
Hi Lynne,

Thank you so much! I will take a look at implementing this today. 

This list rocks.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Help with setting up a paragraph tag in the TOC

Tammy,

If I understand the issue, you are trying to make a single TOC entry that 
has the autonumber of the SectionNumber paragraph followed by the text of the 
SectionTitle paragraph. The format of one TOC entry cannot include information 
from multiple paragraphs (or elements in a structured document). However, you 
can create two entries that appear on one line by making the first one a run-in 
head. In your case, you can enter SectionNumber in the TOC, using <$paranum> 
and formatting that paragraph as a run-in head. Also enter SectionTitle in the 
TOC using <$paratext>. As long as all sections are consistent in the use of 
both paragraphs at the beginning, the result should be what you want.

 --Lynne

On 3/15/2021 8:36 AM, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:
> SectionNumber is an auto-numbered tag used within a chapter file 
> whereas the tag that immediately follows, SectionTitle, is not 
> auto-numbered. The numbering is not at the file level such as with 
> $Chapnum, so <$sectionnum>  is not an option.

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Re: [Framers] Help with setting up a paragraph tag in the TOC

2021-03-15 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Lynne! I think that's what I suggested generally. Your specificity is
much more helpful!

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 11:48 AM Lynne A. Price  wrote:

> Tammy,
>
> If I understand the issue, you are trying to make a single TOC entry
> that has the autonumber of the SectionNumber paragraph followed by the
> text of the SectionTitle paragraph. The format of one TOC entry cannot
> include information from multiple paragraphs (or elements in a
> structured document). However, you can create two entries that appear on
> one line by making the first one a run-in head. In your case, you can
> enter SectionNumber in the TOC, using <$paranum> and formatting that
> paragraph as a run-in head. Also enter SectionTitle in the TOC using
> <$paratext>. As long as all sections are consistent in the use of both
> paragraphs at the beginning, the result should be what you want.
>
>  --Lynne
>
> On 3/15/2021 8:36 AM, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:
> > SectionNumber is an auto-numbered tag used within a chapter file
> > whereas the tag that immediately follows, SectionTitle, is not
> > auto-numbered. The numbering is not at the file level such as with
> > $Chapnum, so <$sectionnum>  is not an option.
>
> --
> Lynne A. Price
> Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
> Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development,
> and training
> lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com
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Re: [Framers] Help with setting up a paragraph tag in the TOC

2021-03-15 Thread Lynne A. Price

Tammy,

   If I understand the issue, you are trying to make a single TOC entry 
that has the autonumber of the SectionNumber paragraph followed by the 
text of the SectionTitle paragraph. The format of one TOC entry cannot 
include information from multiple paragraphs (or elements in a 
structured document). However, you can create two entries that appear on 
one line by making the first one a run-in head. In your case, you can 
enter SectionNumber in the TOC, using <$paranum> and formatting that 
paragraph as a run-in head. Also enter SectionTitle in the TOC using 
<$paratext>. As long as all sections are consistent in the use of both 
paragraphs at the beginning, the result should be what you want.


    --Lynne

On 3/15/2021 8:36 AM, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:

SectionNumber is an auto-numbered tag used within a chapter file
whereas the tag that immediately follows, SectionTitle, is not
auto-numbered. The numbering is not at the file level such as with
$Chapnum, so <$sectionnum>  is not an option.


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Re: [Framers] Help with setting up a paragraph tag in the TOC

2021-03-15 Thread tammyvb
Hi All,

I appreciate all the responses. Here's the summary:

> SectionNumber is an auto-numbered tag used within a chapter file 
> whereas the tag that immediately follows, SectionTitle, is not 
> auto-numbered. The numbering is not at the file level such as with 
> $Chapnum, so <$sectionnum>  is not an option. 

I have tried all iterations including <$paranum> before <$paratext>, but no 
luck. . . .

In a nutshell, . I am trying to extract a paragraph number from one tag 
(SectionNumber) and get it assigned to another tag (SectionTitle) when 
generating the TOC.

I have punted for now, and come up w/ a less than elegant solution, but it 
works and I have to move on to bigger fish to fry, but I am open to any and all 
suggestions.

Thanks!

TVB


Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
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Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 1:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Help with setting up a paragraph tag in the TOC

Ti Tammy,
Are you forgetting <$paranum> before <$paratext>?
Kind regards,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson (in the Senile group!)





fim., 11. mar. 2021 kl. 23:27 skrifaði :

> OK,
>
>
>
> Please have pity on my senior mind. It's been sooo long 
> since I have had to set certain formats up from scratch in Framemaker, 
> that I am just going bonkers trying to remember how I did something 
> before. Here's my current conundrum:
>
>
>
> On the first page of each chapter, I have the following tags:
>
> 1.  ChapterNumber, with the numbering set to N:Chapter <$chapnum>. At
> the book level, I set Chapter Numbering to 1 for the first chapter in 
> the book, and Continue numbering from previous chapter for all 
> subsequent chapters. The tag is set to start at the top of a page.
> 2.  ChapterTitle, which immediately follows ChapterNumber, and is set
> to
> Keep with Previous Paragraph.
>
>
>
>
>
> In each of my chapters in a book, I have Sections. The Sections are 
> denoted with a special master page layout that is different from the 
> first page of the chapter. On this page, I use several paragraph tags 
> including the
> following:
>
> 1.  Section Number, with the numbering set to the following: S:Section
> . The tag is set to start at the top of a page.
> 2.  Section Title. This is the tag that immediately follows
> SectionNumber. This tag is set to keep with the previous paragraph.
>
> At the book level, I have paragraph tag numbering to start over for 
> each chapter, so the first time I use SectionNumber in a chapter, it 
> is numbering correctly as Section 1, and then followed by Section 2, 
> etc.
>
>
>
> For my TOC, I have selected the requisite tags, including ChapterTitle 
> and SectionTitle.
>
> 1.  For my ChapterTitleTOC tag, here is the format:  Chapter
> <$chapnum>:
> <$paratext>. . . . .<$pagenum> and I get the following output for example:
> Chapter 1: Wiggle the Widget. . . . . . 17.
>
>
>
> I need to set up an analogous SectionTitleTOC tag : Section 1: Section 
> Title contents, Section 2: Section Title contents, etc., and I guess I 
> am missing the boat on this one. I can go through all the iterations 
> that I have tried, but no matter what I try, I wind up with the 
> following:
>
>
>
> Section:  .
>
>
>
> I cannot get the section number to show up after the word "Section" 
> like I can for ChapterTitle. I am sure it's because the <$chapnum> is 
> a book-level variable vs. paragraph tag numbering for SectionNumber, 
> but I am at a loss to understand any further.  If any of you gurus out 
> there can point me to what I am doing wrong, and provide some insight, 
> I would be most appreciative. I had this working ages ago in another 
> manual, but that manual is no longer in my possession, so I can't 
> refer to it for clarification.
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
>
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
>
>
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