Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

2021-04-16 Thread A Craig
Thanks. 

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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: April 16, 2021 10:37 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

The "as is" attribute is used to specify that the style will not affect the
given property when the style is applied to existing text. If the property
is set to either "yes" (checked) or "no" (unchecked), it will either apply
or clear that characteristic fro the text when the style is applied.

-FR


From: Framers  on
behalf of A Craig 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 1:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

As this was a new style, I'm not sure that "as is" would be applicable...?

And there wasn't any text in the paragraph when I created the style. I
copied in text that I "cleaned" in Notepad first (the text contained both
upper and lower case).

I'll try Winfried's MIF suggestion later today.

Alison



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On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: April 16, 2021 9:47 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

Be aware that there are three settings for the check boxes. A check mark is
on. A solid box is "keep as is." And an empty box is off. When I first
started in FrameMaker, I thought clicking the box once, so that the check
mark was gone was turning it off. It is not. It sets it to as is, which is
unchanged. It takes two checks to turn it off.

Mike Wickham

On 4/15/2021 8:17 PM, A Craig wrote:
> Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base) Win 7 Pro (On 
> my home computer. Win 10 on my remote, work computer - which
is where Frame resides)
> 64 bit
>
> I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been 
> away from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a 
> while to come back to me.
>
> I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I 
> set the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it 
> won't retain a specific setting.
>
> Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the 
> checkboxes for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the 
> winner as I can't enter an upper case letter in the text).
>
> No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the 
> order of deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves.
>
> Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong?
>
> Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles 
> I've worked on so far.
>
> FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a 
> 6mm hanging indent.
>
> Alison
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Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

2021-04-16 Thread Fred Ridder
The "as is" attribute is used to specify that the style will not affect the 
given property when the style is applied to existing text. If the property is 
set to either "yes" (checked) or "no" (unchecked), it will either apply or 
clear that characteristic fro the text when the style is applied.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of A Craig 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 1:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

As this was a new style, I'm not sure that "as is" would be applicable...?

And there wasn't any text in the paragraph when I created the style. I
copied in text that I "cleaned" in Notepad first (the text contained both
upper and lower case).

I'll try Winfried's MIF suggestion later today.

Alison



-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: April 16, 2021 9:47 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

Be aware that there are three settings for the check boxes. A check mark is
on. A solid box is "keep as is." And an empty box is off. When I first
started in FrameMaker, I thought clicking the box once, so that the check
mark was gone was turning it off. It is not. It sets it to as is, which is
unchanged. It takes two checks to turn it off.

Mike Wickham

On 4/15/2021 8:17 PM, A Craig wrote:
> Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base)
> Win 7 Pro (On my home computer. Win 10 on my remote, work computer - which
is where Frame resides)
> 64 bit
>
> I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been
> away from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a
> while to come back to me.
>
> I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I
> set the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it
> won't retain a specific setting.
>
> Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the
> checkboxes for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the
> winner as I can't enter an upper case letter in the text).
>
> No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the
> order of deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves.
>
> Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong?
>
> Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles
> I've worked on so far.
>
> FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a
> 6mm hanging indent.
>
> Alison
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Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

2021-04-16 Thread A Craig
As this was a new style, I'm not sure that "as is" would be applicable...?

And there wasn't any text in the paragraph when I created the style. I
copied in text that I "cleaned" in Notepad first (the text contained both
upper and lower case).

I'll try Winfried's MIF suggestion later today.

Alison  



-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: April 16, 2021 9:47 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

Be aware that there are three settings for the check boxes. A check mark is
on. A solid box is "keep as is." And an empty box is off. When I first
started in FrameMaker, I thought clicking the box once, so that the check
mark was gone was turning it off. It is not. It sets it to as is, which is
unchanged. It takes two checks to turn it off.

Mike Wickham

On 4/15/2021 8:17 PM, A Craig wrote:
> Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base) 
> Win 7 Pro (On my home computer. Win 10 on my remote, work computer - which
is where Frame resides)
> 64 bit
>
> I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been 
> away from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a 
> while to come back to me.
>
> I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I 
> set the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it 
> won't retain a specific setting.
>
> Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the 
> checkboxes for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the 
> winner as I can't enter an upper case letter in the text).
>
> No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the 
> order of deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves.
>
> Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong?
>
> Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles 
> I've worked on so far.
>
> FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a 
> 6mm hanging indent.
>
> Alison
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Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

2021-04-16 Thread A Craig
Hi Winifred 

It's not that I have more than one checkbox checked, it's that the checkmark
shows for both Lower Case and Upper case when I select each option from the
dropdown menu (which is truly weird).

This hasn't affected any of the other new styles I created or the ones I
updated.

I won't get back to the template until late this afternoon, at which point
I'll give your MIF scenario a try.

Thanks, Alison 


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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Reng Winfried
Sent: April 15, 2021 11:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

Hi Alison,

Do you have this issue for all paragraphs? No matter in which paragraph your
insertion mark is?
If only in a specific paragraph, there is a special paragraph property which
you can see only in MIF. This would allow only that you enter text, but you
cannot change the paragraph format.
Enter some characters which you can find easily, e.g. ü.
Then convert to MIF, open in a text editor and search for these characters.
The paragraph could have a property nach .
Just change this to No. Save and open in FrameMaker.

If this is not the case, your description does not match my Paragraph
Designer.
I have only a single checkbox for Small Caps/Uppercase/Lowercase and not two
as you describe.

Best regards

Winfried

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Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:18 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base)
Win 7 Pro (On my home computer. Win 10 on my remote, work computer - which
is where Frame resides)
64 bit

I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been away
from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a while to come
back to me.

I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I set
the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it won't
retain a specific setting.

Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the checkboxes
for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the winner as I can't
enter an upper case letter in the text). 

No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the order of
deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves.

Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong? 

Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles I've
worked on so far.

FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a 6mm
hanging indent. 

Alison
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Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

2021-04-16 Thread Mike Wickham
Be aware that there are three settings for the check boxes. A check mark 
is on. A solid box is "keep as is." And an empty box is off. When I 
first started in FrameMaker, I thought clicking the box once, so that 
the check mark was gone was turning it off. It is not. It sets it to as 
is, which is unchanged. It takes two checks to turn it off.


Mike Wickham

On 4/15/2021 8:17 PM, A Craig wrote:

Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base)

Win 7 Pro

64 bit

  

  


I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been away
from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a while to come
back to me.

  


I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I set
the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it won't
retain a specific setting.

  


Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the checkboxes
for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the winner as I can't
enter an upper case letter in the text).

  


No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the order of
deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves.

  


Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong?

  


Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles I've
worked on so far.

  


FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a 6mm
hanging indent.

  


Alison

  

  


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Re: [Framers] Needed: A template god/goddess

2021-04-16 Thread tammyvb
Thank you everyone!! This list just rocks. I am now fully taken care of
between Lin and an offlist responder.

Happy Friday!!!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

-Original Message-
From: Framers
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Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:16 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Needed: A template god/goddess

Ah, hah! It turns out Adobe has been including updated to the current
version of Frame as part of its Samples directory!

C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe FrameMaker
2019\Samples\MoreSamples\Books\Bkstyle7

Has the correct page layout for that color block. I hope this helps.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 11:02 AM  wrote:

> So,
>
>
>
> My longtime template goddess has retired and I am in need of some 
> assistance in setting up some aspects of my FM template (I have 
> FM2019). Some parts of the template are a no-brainer, but others are 
> going to require that an auto-numbered paragraph tag to be displayed 
> in the middle of a specific graphic/icon - it's essentially my 
> client's preferred symbol (a geometric
> shape) and color and in the middle of this the chapter number must be 
> displayed and they would also like a smaller version of this for the 
> page number and a section number. Yea, I could figure it out if I 
> mucked around for a while, but I am slammed w/ the writing deadline 
> for this and beyond basic template setup (like a line under a chapter 
> title - woo hoo!) I tend to go for very basic templates and focus on 
> the writing . . . which is what they hired me to do.
>
>
>
> For someone who is skilled in this, I bet you would be done like that 
> (snaps
> fingers) but I am willing to pay for up to 2 hours of work at my bill 
> rate (to be discussed offline) . . . if this is something that suits 
> your fancy, please let me know, and we can make time to talk. I have 
> mockups of what is needed.
>
>
>
> TIA and Happy Friday.
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
>
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
>
>
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Re: [Framers] Needed: A template god/goddess

2021-04-16 Thread Lin Sims
Ah, hah! It turns out Adobe has been including updated to the current
version of Frame as part of its Samples directory!

C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe FrameMaker
2019\Samples\MoreSamples\Books\Bkstyle7

Has the correct page layout for that color block. I hope this helps.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 11:02 AM  wrote:

> So,
>
>
>
> My longtime template goddess has retired and I am in need of some
> assistance
> in setting up some aspects of my FM template (I have FM2019). Some parts of
> the template are a no-brainer, but others are going to require that an
> auto-numbered paragraph tag to be displayed in the middle of a specific
> graphic/icon - it's essentially my client's preferred symbol (a geometric
> shape) and color and in the middle of this the chapter number must be
> displayed and they would also like a smaller version of this for the page
> number and a section number. Yea, I could figure it out if I mucked around
> for a while, but I am slammed w/ the writing deadline for this and beyond
> basic template setup (like a line under a chapter title - woo hoo!) I tend
> to go for very basic templates and focus on the writing . . . which is what
> they hired me to do.
>
>
>
> For someone who is skilled in this, I bet you would be done like that
> (snaps
> fingers) but I am willing to pay for up to 2 hours of work at my bill rate
> (to be discussed offline) . . . if this is something that suits your fancy,
> please let me know, and we can make time to talk. I have mockups of what is
> needed.
>
>
>
> TIA and Happy Friday.
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
>
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
>
>
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Re: [Framers] Needed: A template god/goddess

2021-04-16 Thread Lin Sims
Hmm, I just looked at my copy of the template pack and the square behind
the chapter number is missing. How annoying.

The good news is that if you click File > Document > New and then click
Explore Standard Templates at the bottom of the page, there's one with the
color block under User Guide > Chapter. You should be able to replace that
color block with your customer's graphic.

If you put an appropriately sized version of it on a reference page, you
should be able to bring it in with Frame Above or Frame Below paragraph for
the section numbers and page numbers. Might take a little fiddling.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 11:49 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> If no one contacts you, try the Adobe Template Pack 1, Book 7 style. That
> has a background image for the chapter number and I'm sure you could adapt
> that easily.
>
> You can download it from here: https://www.frameusers.com/tools/
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 11:02 AM  wrote:
>
>> So,
>>
>>
>>
>> My longtime template goddess has retired and I am in need of some
>> assistance
>> in setting up some aspects of my FM template (I have FM2019). Some parts
>> of
>> the template are a no-brainer, but others are going to require that an
>> auto-numbered paragraph tag to be displayed in the middle of a specific
>> graphic/icon - it's essentially my client's preferred symbol (a geometric
>> shape) and color and in the middle of this the chapter number must be
>> displayed and they would also like a smaller version of this for the page
>> number and a section number. Yea, I could figure it out if I mucked around
>> for a while, but I am slammed w/ the writing deadline for this and beyond
>> basic template setup (like a line under a chapter title - woo hoo!) I tend
>> to go for very basic templates and focus on the writing . . . which is
>> what
>> they hired me to do.
>>
>>
>>
>> For someone who is skilled in this, I bet you would be done like that
>> (snaps
>> fingers) but I am willing to pay for up to 2 hours of work at my bill rate
>> (to be discussed offline) . . . if this is something that suits your
>> fancy,
>> please let me know, and we can make time to talk. I have mockups of what
>> is
>> needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> TIA and Happy Friday.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tammy Van Boening
>>
>> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
>>
>> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>>
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Re: [Framers] Needed: A template god/goddess

2021-04-16 Thread Lin Sims
If no one contacts you, try the Adobe Template Pack 1, Book 7 style. That
has a background image for the chapter number and I'm sure you could adapt
that easily.

You can download it from here: https://www.frameusers.com/tools/

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 11:02 AM  wrote:

> So,
>
>
>
> My longtime template goddess has retired and I am in need of some
> assistance
> in setting up some aspects of my FM template (I have FM2019). Some parts of
> the template are a no-brainer, but others are going to require that an
> auto-numbered paragraph tag to be displayed in the middle of a specific
> graphic/icon - it's essentially my client's preferred symbol (a geometric
> shape) and color and in the middle of this the chapter number must be
> displayed and they would also like a smaller version of this for the page
> number and a section number. Yea, I could figure it out if I mucked around
> for a while, but I am slammed w/ the writing deadline for this and beyond
> basic template setup (like a line under a chapter title - woo hoo!) I tend
> to go for very basic templates and focus on the writing . . . which is what
> they hired me to do.
>
>
>
> For someone who is skilled in this, I bet you would be done like that
> (snaps
> fingers) but I am willing to pay for up to 2 hours of work at my bill rate
> (to be discussed offline) . . . if this is something that suits your fancy,
> please let me know, and we can make time to talk. I have mockups of what is
> needed.
>
>
>
> TIA and Happy Friday.
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
>
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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[Framers] Needed: A template god/goddess

2021-04-16 Thread tammyvb
So,

 

My longtime template goddess has retired and I am in need of some assistance
in setting up some aspects of my FM template (I have FM2019). Some parts of
the template are a no-brainer, but others are going to require that an
auto-numbered paragraph tag to be displayed in the middle of a specific
graphic/icon - it's essentially my client's preferred symbol (a geometric
shape) and color and in the middle of this the chapter number must be
displayed and they would also like a smaller version of this for the page
number and a section number. Yea, I could figure it out if I mucked around
for a while, but I am slammed w/ the writing deadline for this and beyond
basic template setup (like a line under a chapter title - woo hoo!) I tend
to go for very basic templates and focus on the writing . . . which is what
they hired me to do.

 

For someone who is skilled in this, I bet you would be done like that (snaps
fingers) but I am willing to pay for up to 2 hours of work at my bill rate
(to be discussed offline) . . . if this is something that suits your fancy,
please let me know, and we can make time to talk. I have mockups of what is
needed.

 

TIA and Happy Friday.

 

Tammy Van Boening

Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

 

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Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

2021-04-16 Thread Reng Winfried
Hi Alison,

Do you have this issue for all paragraphs? No matter in which paragraph
your insertion mark is?
If only in a specific paragraph, there is a special paragraph property which you
can see only in MIF. This would allow only that you enter text, but you cannot
change the paragraph format.
Enter some characters which you can find easily, e.g. ü.
Then convert to MIF, open in a text editor and search for these characters.
The paragraph could have a property nach .
Just change this to No. Save and open in FrameMaker.

If this is not the case, your description does not match my Paragraph Designer.
I have only a single checkbox for Small Caps/Uppercase/Lowercase and not two
as you describe.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base)

Win 7 Pro

64 bit

 

 

I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been away from 
Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a while to come back to 
me.

 

I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I set the 
Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it won't retain a 
specific setting.

 

Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the checkboxes for 
both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the winner as I can't enter 
an upper case letter in the text). 

 

No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the order of 
deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves.

 

Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong? 

 

Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles I've 
worked on so far.

 

FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a 6mm 
hanging indent. 

 

Alison 
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