Re: [Framers] can someone take the reins?
Well, the good news is that when I first took over the list, Brad switched to the same domain host as I use. But short of someone dying, it is damned difficult to wrestle ownership away from an owner. That's why we can't let it get that far. Carol At 02:35 PM 6/26/2021, Scott Prentice wrote: Might want to contact the current web host and explain the situation. They may be able to help. Especially if they are also the registrar. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] can someone take the reins?
Definitely don’t want to wait for the domain to expire. When that happens it’ll likely get scooped up by domain squatters who will change a fortune to get it back. Might want to contact the current web host and explain the situation. They may be able to help. Especially if they are also the registrar. ...scott Sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos or unexpected brevity. > On Jun 26, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Carol J. Elkins > wrote: > > At 01:10 PM 6/26/2021, Peter Gold wrote: >> I believe domain owners' contact information is publicly available at the >> registrar. > > > The phone number on the domain registration is the number I left a message > for. On Monday, I will contact Finite Matters and see if they can put me in > contact with him. > > The folks on this list are just simply great. I've had several people respond > off list and as soon as I make the last-ditch effort to track Brad down, I'll > get a couple of the new volunteers trained up. We are going to have to figure > out a more long-term solution for domain ownership, though, so finding Brad > is a priority for me. I'm hoping he will be willing to transfer the domain to > someone else. > > Carol > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] can someone take the reins?
FWIW, try Facebook. Even if there is/are more than one Brad with the same last name, you can private message them one at a time to find out who’s who. — Ken in Atlanta Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote: > > At 01:10 PM 6/26/2021, Peter Gold wrote: >> I believe domain owners' contact information is publicly available at the >> registrar. > > > The phone number on the domain registration is the number I left a message > for. On Monday, I will contact Finite Matters and see if they can put me in > contact with him. > > The folks on this list are just simply great. I've had several people respond > off list and as soon as I make the last-ditch effort to track Brad down, I'll > get a couple of the new volunteers trained up. We are going to have to figure > out a more long-term solution for domain ownership, though, so finding Brad > is a priority for me. I'm hoping he will be willing to transfer the domain to > someone else. > > Carol > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] can someone take the reins?
I'd like to echo all that's been posted on this thread, and thank Carol and Rick wholeheartedly for all they've done. Alas, I'm in the same position as Carol, theoretically retired and no longer using FrameMaker much. But I remain eternally grateful to this group for helping me attain the dubious heights of designing and documenting a structured FrameMaker writing environment from a standpoint of pig ignorance (70+ pp of docs). And to all of you who contributed articles while I edited the FrameMaker slot for the UK's ISTC: you know who you are. I really, really hope that FrameMaker doesn't go the way of Interleaf, which sort of disappeared between the leaves, fell to the forest floor and became compost. FrameMaker deserves better. -- Steve ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] can someone take the reins?
At 01:10 PM 6/26/2021, Peter Gold wrote: I believe domain owners' contact information is publicly available at the registrar. The phone number on the domain registration is the number I left a message for. On Monday, I will contact Finite Matters and see if they can put me in contact with him. The folks on this list are just simply great. I've had several people respond off list and as soon as I make the last-ditch effort to track Brad down, I'll get a couple of the new volunteers trained up. We are going to have to figure out a more long-term solution for domain ownership, though, so finding Brad is a priority for me. I'm hoping he will be willing to transfer the domain to someone else. Carol ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] can someone take the reins?
I believe domain owners' contact information is publicly available at the registrar. On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, 1:24 PM A Craig wrote: > > First, many thanks to Carol and Risk for undertaking this task for the > last few years. Those of us who use the list truly appreciate it. > > Second, when the domain expires, if donations are needed to pay for the > renewal, send me a note as I am more than willing to make a contribution. > > Alison > > > From: "Scott Prentice" > To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker, software." < > framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Sent: Friday, 25 June, 2021 17:04:12 > Subject: Re: [Framers] can someone take the reins? > > Hi Carol... > > You may know this .. but as a point of interest, it looks like the > frameusers.com domain registration expires in under a year, on > 2022-05-23. Hopefully someone can wake up Brad Anderson before that > date. :-o > > Cheers, > ...scott > > > On 6/25/21 10:20 AM, Carol J. Elkins wrote: > > Hi Framers, > > > > Rick Quatro and I have been managing the FrameUsers listserv for > > several years now. I'm retired and no longer use Frame much and Rick > > would like to step back, too. We'd like to hand the reins over to one > > or two new volunteers. There is almost ZERO time and effort required. > > A couple times a month, someone who has been placed on moderated > > status for poor listetiquette will need to have their post manually > > approved. It takes 30 seconds. > > > > I have tried everything, including leaving voice and email messsages, > > to the site's owner, Brad Anderson, and have had no response. If > > anyone knows how to get ahold of him, I'd appreciate some help. It is > > really his responsibility to take the reins and find new managers. And > > he needs to find someone to update/redesign/delete the FrameUsers.com > > Web site. That won't affect the listserv. > > > > Are any of you willing to become new listserv managers? If so, please > > email me off-list at celk...@critterhaven.biz > > > > Carol Elkins > > List Mom (hopefully for not much longer) > > > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] can someone take the reins?
First, many thanks to Carol and Risk for undertaking this task for the last few years. Those of us who use the list truly appreciate it. Second, when the domain expires, if donations are needed to pay for the renewal, send me a note as I am more than willing to make a contribution. Alison From: "Scott Prentice" To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker, software." Sent: Friday, 25 June, 2021 17:04:12 Subject: Re: [Framers] can someone take the reins? Hi Carol... You may know this .. but as a point of interest, it looks like the frameusers.com domain registration expires in under a year, on 2022-05-23. Hopefully someone can wake up Brad Anderson before that date. :-o Cheers, ...scott On 6/25/21 10:20 AM, Carol J. Elkins wrote: > Hi Framers, > > Rick Quatro and I have been managing the FrameUsers listserv for > several years now. I'm retired and no longer use Frame much and Rick > would like to step back, too. We'd like to hand the reins over to one > or two new volunteers. There is almost ZERO time and effort required. > A couple times a month, someone who has been placed on moderated > status for poor listetiquette will need to have their post manually > approved. It takes 30 seconds. > > I have tried everything, including leaving voice and email messsages, > to the site's owner, Brad Anderson, and have had no response. If > anyone knows how to get ahold of him, I'd appreciate some help. It is > really his responsibility to take the reins and find new managers. And > he needs to find someone to update/redesign/delete the FrameUsers.com > Web site. That won't affect the listserv. > > Are any of you willing to become new listserv managers? If so, please > email me off-list at celk...@critterhaven.biz > > Carol Elkins > List Mom (hopefully for not much longer) > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
