Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App
Hi C2, If you can mock up a sample of your output XML, even if it is not final, I can show you how it would work. Thanks. Rick -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of cuc tu Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:41 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App Hi Rick, I have not yet begun, so DTD, EDD, template, and RW rules need to be defined. I think I can do this. Looks like I'll need to learn about XSLT. Is there a brute force path to getting something simple like this workable? Thanks C2 Message: 5 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:41:58 -0400 From: To: "'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'" Subject: Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App Message-ID: <01de01d83e03$5e2f45d0$1a8dd170$@rickquatro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi C2, You can apply an XSLT stylesheet automatically on import or export (or both). The stylesheet file would be part of your custom structured application. XSLT allows you completely transform your XML, including changing the order of elements, converting attributes to elements, etc. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-729-6746 r...@frameexpert.com http://www.frameexpert.com/store -- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:44:27 -0400 From: To: "'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'" Subject: Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App Message-ID: <01e601d83e03$b7104370$2530ca50$@rickquatro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Do you have the EDD set up yet for the output FrameMaker document? -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of cuc tu Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 11:06 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App Hi Framers, Our engineering group is giving me an XML file to build a dictionary of programming commands. I'm still a novice at structured frame and have two basic question s about using the XML content. All content is in attribute values. I'm sure I can make certain attributes visible, apply formatting, and add prefix/suffix. Can I automatically change the order of the content? They are presenting the definition before the command word. Can attribute values be pulled in from other elements? Here is an example: ... In all commands, I want to print the String value as a heading first, then follow with ClassDescription as a paragraph, but the order is reversed. In the CommandParameters element, I want to print the values of the appropriate EnumList element attributes found in the appropriate element So above would be something like: :SYSTem:PRESet:TYPE Description: Sets the system preset setup type. Outputs the system preset setup type. Command Parameters: DEFAULT, SAVED Query Result Parameters: DEF, SAV Examples: SYST:PRES:TYPE DEF Sets the system preset setup type to Default. SYST:PRES:TYPE? Outputs the system preset setup type. Thanks C2 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App
https://www.w3schools.com/xml/xsl_intro.asp Click Next near the bottom to page through the tutorial. If you're creating XSLT transformations, consider whether there's any reason to import it into FrameMaker. When I used XSLT to document something similar I just went straight to a standalone HTML doc. On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 1:50 PM cuc tu wrote: > > Looks like I'll need to learn about XSLT. Is there a brute force path to > getting something simple like this workable? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App
Hi Rick, I have not yet begun, so DTD, EDD, template, and RW rules need to be defined. I think I can do this. Looks like I'll need to learn about XSLT. Is there a brute force path to getting something simple like this workable? Thanks C2 Message: 5 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:41:58 -0400 From: To: "'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'" Subject: Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App Message-ID: <01de01d83e03$5e2f45d0$1a8dd170$@rickquatro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi C2, You can apply an XSLT stylesheet automatically on import or export (or both). The stylesheet file would be part of your custom structured application. XSLT allows you completely transform your XML, including changing the order of elements, converting attributes to elements, etc. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-729-6746 r...@frameexpert.com http://www.frameexpert.com/store -- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:44:27 -0400 From: To: "'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'" Subject: Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App Message-ID: <01e601d83e03$b7104370$2530ca50$@rickquatro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Do you have the EDD set up yet for the output FrameMaker document? -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of cuc tu Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 11:06 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App Hi Framers, Our engineering group is giving me an XML file to build a dictionary of programming commands. I'm still a novice at structured frame and have two basic question s about using the XML content. All content is in attribute values. I'm sure I can make certain attributes visible, apply formatting, and add prefix/suffix. Can I automatically change the order of the content? They are presenting the definition before the command word. Can attribute values be pulled in from other elements? Here is an example: ... In all commands, I want to print the String value as a heading first, then follow with ClassDescription as a paragraph, but the order is reversed. In the CommandParameters element, I want to print the values of the appropriate EnumList element attributes found in the appropriate element So above would be something like: :SYSTem:PRESet:TYPE Description: Sets the system preset setup type. Outputs the system preset setup type. Command Parameters: DEFAULT, SAVED Query Result Parameters: DEF, SAV Examples: SYST:PRES:TYPE DEF Sets the system preset setup type to Default. SYST:PRES:TYPE? Outputs the system preset setup type. Thanks C2 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App
Do you have the EDD set up yet for the output FrameMaker document? -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of cuc tu Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 11:06 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App Hi Framers, Our engineering group is giving me an XML file to build a dictionary of programming commands. I'm still a novice at structured frame and have two basic question s about using the XML content. All content is in attribute values. I'm sure I can make certain attributes visible, apply formatting, and add prefix/suffix. Can I automatically change the order of the content? They are presenting the definition before the command word. Can attribute values be pulled in from other elements? Here is an example: ... In all commands, I want to print the String value as a heading first, then follow with ClassDescription as a paragraph, but the order is reversed. In the CommandParameters element, I want to print the values of the appropriate EnumList element attributes found in the appropriate element So above would be something like: :SYSTem:PRESet:TYPE Description: Sets the system preset setup type. Outputs the system preset setup type. Command Parameters: DEFAULT, SAVED Query Result Parameters: DEF, SAV Examples: SYST:PRES:TYPE DEF Sets the system preset setup type to Default. SYST:PRES:TYPE? Outputs the system preset setup type. Thanks C2 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App
Hi C2, You can apply an XSLT stylesheet automatically on import or export (or both). The stylesheet file would be part of your custom structured application. XSLT allows you completely transform your XML, including changing the order of elements, converting attributes to elements, etc. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-729-6746 r...@frameexpert.com http://www.frameexpert.com/store -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of cuc tu Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 11:06 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App Hi Framers, Our engineering group is giving me an XML file to build a dictionary of programming commands. I'm still a novice at structured frame and have two basic question s about using the XML content. All content is in attribute values. I'm sure I can make certain attributes visible, apply formatting, and add prefix/suffix. Can I automatically change the order of the content? They are presenting the definition before the command word. Can attribute values be pulled in from other elements? Here is an example: ... In all commands, I want to print the String value as a heading first, then follow with ClassDescription as a paragraph, but the order is reversed. In the CommandParameters element, I want to print the values of the appropriate EnumList element attributes found in the appropriate element So above would be something like: :SYSTem:PRESet:TYPE Description: Sets the system preset setup type. Outputs the system preset setup type. Command Parameters: DEFAULT, SAVED Query Result Parameters: DEF, SAV Examples: SYST:PRES:TYPE DEF Sets the system preset setup type to Default. SYST:PRES:TYPE? Outputs the system preset setup type. Thanks C2 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Another Simple Structured App
Hi Framers, Our engineering group is giving me an XML file to build a dictionary of programming commands. I'm still a novice at structured frame and have two basic question s about using the XML content. All content is in attribute values. I'm sure I can make certain attributes visible, apply formatting, and add prefix/suffix. Can I automatically change the order of the content? They are presenting the definition before the command word. Can attribute values be pulled in from other elements? Here is an example: ... In all commands, I want to print the String value as a heading first, then follow with ClassDescription as a paragraph, but the order is reversed. In the CommandParameters element, I want to print the values of the appropriate EnumList element attributes found in the appropriate element So above would be something like: :SYSTem:PRESet:TYPE Description: Sets the system preset setup type. Outputs the system preset setup type. Command Parameters: DEFAULT, SAVED Query Result Parameters: DEF, SAV Examples: SYST:PRES:TYPE DEF Sets the system preset setup type to Default. SYST:PRES:TYPE? Outputs the system preset setup type. Thanks C2 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FM2HTML5 Split Topic by Heading Para Style not working
There's a thread on the FM forums reporting issues some people (others it's working fine) are having with the pagination in FM2020 - you may be in that boat too. From: Framers on behalf of Orly Zimmerman Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 5:23 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] FM2HTML5 Split Topic by Heading Para Style not working HI All, I'm trying to create HTML5 directly from an FM file or book. To start with, I would like to split the topics based on my 2 Headings. These are numbered headings "across all columns and side heads". The page layout includes side heads. I instruct the HTML5 output to discard the numbering for all the Headings - that works. The split into Topics by Para Style is not working. I get one long page with all info in the same HTML page. Any ideas what could be preventing the split by heading from happening? I'm using FM2020 v16.0.4.1062 Windows 10 Pro Many Thanks, Orly ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://url.avanan.click/v2/___http://www.frameusers.com___.YXAzOmpvbmFzY29ycG9yYXRlOmE6bzozMGU5MGJhYmVhOWJmMjAyZDUxYTdjYjg1MjhlMmIyMDo1OmM4YTE6OWRhOGIwZDZiNzIyMmI0YmJmZjRlYTAyMGFkY2Q5MDI2MzVmYjRlMDI3ZTFmNWUyMjMyMGJkYmMxMGI2NzQ2NDpwOk4 Archives located at https://url.avanan.click/v2/___http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/___.YXAzOmpvbmFzY29ycG9yYXRlOmE6bzozMGU5MGJhYmVhOWJmMjAyZDUxYTdjYjg1MjhlMmIyMDo1OjBlNTQ6ZWU3MjVlYWUyYjlmN2ExMzUwYjY5MjQ4ZTMwMTJkMmI0ZDNmNjdkYWNkY2FmZmYyZTIyMmE2YzhjNGYwYjZlNTpwOk4 Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://url.avanan.click/v2/___http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com___.YXAzOmpvbmFzY29ycG9yYXRlOmE6bzozMGU5MGJhYmVhOWJmMjAyZDUxYTdjYjg1MjhlMmIyMDo1OmNkZjI6NTJkMGRmOTgxYjQyZDdhMjExZDI3ZjA1MTBjNWE5NGFhMjI2NGZjNzY1Y2UwNDNmZjFhMjI3ZGEzOTE0NzU2MDpwOk4 Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Acrolinx vs Grammarly
Hi Carla, According to this web-site Acrolinx and Grammarly do different things: https://www.indoition.com/language-terminology-tools-technical-writing.htm Interesting overview. I had not known that there are now so many grammar and style applications. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 5:20 PM Subject: [Framers] Acrolinx vs Grammarly Looking for info on comparing Acrolinx and Grammarly, but not finding what I want online. Does anyone have any resources that might show a feature and usage comparison? * Your company did it already and you can share * Presentation from DitaWorld, STC Conference, etc. We've got a few people using Grammarly individually, and we've talked to Acrolinx and Grammarly for their business implementations, but neither has provided anything to compare. Thx Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
