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[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

Hey,
Did you hear the latest news? You should definetely read more info here 
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Be well, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.

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FrameMaker 10 and Acrobat X ... Training Books

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

Good evening my fellow Frame Templars and Acrobats:

My team and I are going to upgrade to both FrameMaker 10 and Acrobat X

I'm looking for training books (written material) on both subjects.

In addition, I'm looking for an opinion of whis is out there.  I know finding 
training 
materials is a shot in the dark but sharing opinions about this material is 
also equally 
important as well.

Case in point:
I was extremely disappointed with Adobe FrameMaker 9 Classroom in a Book.  I 
don't recommend 
using this as a training resource as it just doesn't cut for both content 
and/or process.

...that's why I'm searching for not only WHAT is out there but your take on it 
as well.

So if my fellow Frame Templars and Acrobats can assist, I'd surely appreciate 
it.

Thank you

From the city so nice, they named it twice:  New York, New York

Eduardo

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FrameMaker 10 and Acrobat X ... Training Books

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

Good evening my fellow Frame Templars and Acrobats:

My team and I are going to upgrade to both FrameMaker 10 and Acrobat X

I'm looking for training books (written material) on both subjects.

In addition, I'm looking for an opinion of whis is out there.  I know finding 
training 
materials is a shot in the dark but sharing opinions about this material is 
also equally 
important as well.

Case in point:
I was extremely disappointed with Adobe FrameMaker 9 Classroom in a Book.  I 
don't recommend 
using this as a training resource as it just doesn't cut for both content 
and/or process.

...that's why I'm searching for not only WHAT is out there but your take on it 
as well.

So if my fellow Frame Templars and Acrobats can assist, I'd surely appreciate 
it.

Thank you

>From the city so nice, they named it twice:  New York, New York

Eduardo

Distilling Mixed Sizes

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

Live from New York!

Good afternoon fellow Frame Templars and Acrobats

I'm looking for that proverbial magic bullet whereby I can distill FrameMaker 
pages of 
different sizes without chopping them down to size.

First, the system:

Frame 9 unstructured
Acrobat 9 Pro
Windows XP SP3

Next, The setup:

A FrameMaker book, including 13 chapters, 7 appendices, and several key indices.
Mostly a 8.5 X 11 inch with about 6 pages embedded with 8.5 X 14.

After using every setting in Distiller, all pages are distilled into 8.5 X 11, 
literally 
chopping off the tops and bottoms of the 8.5 X 14 pages.

I've done this before and didn't change any settings, so I'm thinking there has 
to be a bug 
somewhere either in Acrobat or due to a recent Windows SP3 upgrade.

If there are any suggestions, please let me know.

All the best, standing tall, sword and shield

Eduardo

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Distilling Mixed Sizes

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

Live from New York!

Good afternoon fellow Frame Templars and Acrobats

I'm looking for that proverbial magic bullet whereby I can distill FrameMaker 
pages of 
different sizes without chopping them down to size.

First, the system:

Frame 9 unstructured
Acrobat 9 Pro
Windows XP SP3

Next, The setup:

A FrameMaker book, including 13 chapters, 7 appendices, and several key indices.
Mostly a 8.5 X 11 inch with about 6 pages embedded with 8.5 X 14.

After using every setting in Distiller, all pages are distilled into 8.5 X 11, 
literally 
"chopping" off the tops and bottoms of the 8.5 X 14 pages.

I've done this before and didn't change any settings, so I'm thinking there has 
to be a bug 
somewhere either in Acrobat or due to a recent Windows SP3 upgrade.

If there are any suggestions, please let me know.

All the best, standing tall, sword and shield

Eduardo

Linking Problem

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

Good afternoon

I’ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble linking to documents in a server 
where the 
address contains backslashes “\” and NOT forward slashes “/”

Problem:  whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext link?...FrameMaker 
does funny 
things to the link itself….

Example:

message URL \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf
becomes the following when I click “Edit Hypertext Marker”…..
message URL \\jetblue.com‡ocs\smanuals\jbdocsƒlight Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf

I think the use of the backslash is causing this….or……is it a bug???

So I’m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the link intact.

This has been bothering me for a long time and it’s one of the laundry list 
items I’ve been 
trying to cure.

Any assistance would be most appreciated….


Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
Manager Fleet Publications
JetBlue Airways
118-29 Queens Boulevard
5th Floor
Forest Hills, NY  11375
Phone:  718-709-2884 (Office)
347-684-2782 (Work Cell)
Fax: 718-709-2280

To fly:  Call 1-800-JETBLUE or log on to jetblue.com


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Re: Re: Linking Problem

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

nah.that didn't work either..

On Tue 02/08/11 15:57 , Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com sent:
 My reference from Shlomo Perets says to use either *two* backslashes or
 single forward slashes to indicate folders.  (And this applies 
 regardless of which kind of slash your server uses.)
 
 Sr
 
 
 On 02/08/2011 3:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
  Hi Eduardo,
 
  The backslash in the marker window (sometimes)
 escapes the character following it. You need to use forward slashes
 instead.
  Rick
 
  Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 rick@fra
 meexpert.com
  From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
  [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Eduardo
 F. Cidade Sr. Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:42 PM
 To: 
 framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Linking Problem
  Good afternoon
 
  I’ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble
 linking to documents in a server where the address contains backslashes
 “\” and NOT forward slashes “/”
 
  Problem:  whenever I write the syntax to go to the
 hypertext link?...FrameMaker does funny things to the link
 itself….
  Example:
 
  message URL
 \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations Training Manual 
 (FOTM).pdf becomes 
the following
 when I click “Edit Hypertext Marker”….. message URL
  \\jetblue.com‡ocs\smanuals\jbdocsƒlight
 Operations Training Manual (FOTM).pdf
 
  I think the use of the backslash is causing
 this….or……is it a bug???
  So I’m trying to use any tool native to
 FrameMaker to keep the link intact.
 
  This has been bothering me for a long time and
 it’s one of the laundry list items I’ve been trying to
 cure.
  Any assistance would be most
 appreciated….
 
 
 -- 
 Stuart Rogers
 Technical Communicator
 Phoenix Geophysics Limited
 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
 Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
 
 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
 
 


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Linking Problem......solved

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

I think it was the way I used the marker

I've been using message URL to make the jump

Instead, on a Hail Mary Pass, I used this:

openlink //jetblue.com/Docs/Manuals/jbdocs/MANUAL SUPPLEMENTS/Onboard Delay 
Escalation 
Policy (ODEP).pdf

notice how it now reads openlink to make the jump

.and it works!.what a lesson I learned today

Thank you to all who offered their assistance!  Much appreciated Fellow Framers!

On Tue 02/08/11 16:28 , Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com sent:
 As others have noted, the backslash is a reserved character in
 FrameMaker dialog boxes. There is a whole series of backslash codes
 defined to allow you to type special characters (i.e., characters
 that you can't produce directly from the keyboard with only the Shift
 key as a modifier) in dialogs. If you refer to Appendix B of the
 FrameMaker User Guide (in PDF form in the Documents directory of your
 FrameMaker installation) you will see that the substitutions in your
 hypertext command mostly match the backslash codes:
 D (Shift+d) produces a double dagger, as in your example
 M (Shift+m) is supposed to produce an em-space--no idea why it came
 through as sm in your example
 F (Shift+f) produces a florin, as in your example
 j is not defined and therefore comes through as literal characters,
 as in your example
 The trick to get FrameMaker to render a literal backslash is to
 double it. But that doesn't explain why the doubled backslashes at
 the start of your pathname came through as doubled backslashes in the
 result--it should have come through as a single. To get doubled
 backslashes, you should theoretically have needed to type four in a
 row.
 -Fred Ridder
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:41:49 -0400
  Subject: Linking Problem
  From: ecid...@zoominternet.net
  
  Good afternoon
  
  I’ve been experiencing a tDEFANGED_Onload of trouble linking to
 documents in a server where the 
  address contains backslashes “” and NOT forward slashes “/”
  
  Problem: whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext
 link?...FrameMaker does funny 
  things to the link itself….
  
  Example:
  
  message URL \jetblue.comDocsManualsjbdocsFlight Operations Training
 Manual (FOTM).pdf
  becomes the following when I click “Edit Hypertext Marker”…..
  message URL \jetblue.com‡ocssmanualsjbdocsƒlight Operations
 Training Manual (FOTM).pdf
  
  I think the use of the backslash is causing this….or……is it a
 bug???
  
  So I’m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the
 link intact.
  
  This has been bothering me for a long time and it’s one of the
 laundry list items I’ve been 
  trying to cure.
  
  Any assistance would be most appreciated….
  
  
  Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
  Manager Fleet Publications
  JetBlue Airways
  118-29 Queens Boulevard
  5th Floor
  Forest Hills, NY 11375
  Phone: 718-709-2884 (Office)
  347-684-2782 (Work Cell)
  Fax: 718-709-2280
  
  To fly: Call 1-800-JETBLUE or log on to jetblue.com
  
  
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Linking Problem

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

Good afternoon

I?ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble linking to documents in a server 
where the 
address contains backslashes ?\? and NOT forward slashes ?/?

Problem:  whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext link?...FrameMaker 
does funny 
things to the link itself?.

Example:

message URL \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf
becomes the following when I click ?Edit Hypertext Marker??..
message URL \\jetblue.com?ocs\smanuals\jbdocs?light Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf

I think the use of the backslash is causing this?.or??is it a bug???

So I?m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the link intact.

This has been bothering me for a long time and it?s one of the laundry list 
items I?ve been 
trying to cure.

Any assistance would be most appreciated?.


Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
Manager Fleet Publications
JetBlue Airways
118-29 Queens Boulevard
5th Floor
Forest Hills, NY  11375
Phone:  718-709-2884 (Office)
347-684-2782 (Work Cell)
Fax: 718-709-2280

To fly:  Call 1-800-JETBLUE or log on to jetblue.com

Linking Problem

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

nah.that didn't work either..

On Tue 02/08/11 15:57 , Stuart Rogers srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com sent:
> My reference from Shlomo Perets says to use either *two* backslashes or
> single forward slashes to indicate folders.  (And this applies 
> regardless of which kind of slash your server uses.)
> 
> Sr
> 
> 
> On 02/08/2011 3:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> > Hi Eduardo,
> >
> > The backslash in the marker window (sometimes)
> escapes the character> following it. You need to use forward slashes
> instead.>
> > Rick
> >
> > Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 rick at fra
> meexpert.com>
> > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com> [framers-bounces at 
> > lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Eduardo
> F.> Cidade Sr. Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:42 PM
> To:> 
> framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Linking Problem>
> > Good afternoon
> >
> > I?ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble
> linking to documents in a> server where the address contains backslashes
> ?\? and NOT forward> slashes ?/?
> >
> > Problem:  whenever I write the syntax to go to the
> hypertext> link?...FrameMaker does funny things to the link
> itself?.>
> > Example:
> >
> > message URL
> \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations> Training Manual 
> (FOTM).pdf becomes 
the following
> when I click ?Edit> Hypertext Marker??.. message URL
> > \\jetblue.com?ocs\smanuals\jbdocs?light
> Operations Training Manual> (FOTM).pdf
> >
> > I think the use of the backslash is causing
> this?.or??is it a bug???>
> > So I?m trying to use any tool native to
> FrameMaker to keep the link> intact.
> >
> > This has been bothering me for a long time and
> it?s one of the> laundry list items I?ve been trying to
> cure.>
> > Any assistance would be most
> appreciated?.>
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
> Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
> 
> http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
> 
> 

Linking Problem......solved

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

I think it was the "way" I used the marker

I've been using "message URL" to make the jump

Instead, on a "Hail Mary Pass", I used this:

openlink //jetblue.com/Docs/Manuals/jbdocs/MANUAL SUPPLEMENTS/Onboard Delay 
Escalation 
Policy (ODEP).pdf

notice how it now reads "openlink" to make the jump

.and it works!.what a lesson I learned today

Thank you to all who offered their assistance!  Much appreciated Fellow Framers!

On Tue 02/08/11 16:28 , Fred Ridder docudoc at hotmail.com sent:
> As others have noted, the backslash is a reserved character in
> FrameMaker dialog boxes. There is a whole series of backslash codes
> defined to allow you to type special characters (i.e., characters
> that you can't produce directly from the keyboard with only the Shift
> key as a modifier) in dialogs. If you refer to Appendix B of the
> FrameMaker User Guide (in PDF form in the Documents directory of your
> FrameMaker installation) you will see that the substitutions in your
> hypertext command mostly match the backslash codes:
> D (Shift+d) produces a double dagger, as in your example
> M (Shift+m) is supposed to produce an em-space--no idea why it came
> through as "sm" in your example
> F (Shift+f) produces a florin, as in your example
> j is not defined and therefore comes through as literal characters,
> as in your example
> The trick to get FrameMaker to render a literal backslash is to
> double it. But that doesn't explain why the doubled backslashes at
> the start of your pathname came through as doubled backslashes in the
> result--it should have come through as a single. To get doubled
> backslashes, you should theoretically have needed to type four in a
> row.
> -Fred Ridder
> > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:41:49 -0400
> > Subject: Linking Problem
> > From: ecidade at zoominternet.net
> > 
> > Good afternoon
> > 
> > I?ve been experiencing a tDEFANGED_Onload of trouble linking to
> documents in a server where the 
> > address contains backslashes ?? and NOT forward slashes ?/?
> > 
> > Problem: whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext
> link?...FrameMaker does funny 
> > things to the link itself?.
> > 
> > Example:
> > 
> > message URL \jetblue.comDocsManualsjbdocsFlight Operations Training
> Manual (FOTM).pdf
> > becomes the following when I click ?Edit Hypertext Marker??..
> > message URL \jetblue.com?ocssmanualsjbdocs?light Operations
> Training Manual (FOTM).pdf
> > 
> > I think the use of the backslash is causing this?.or??is it a
> bug???
> > 
> > So I?m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the
> link intact.
> > 
> > This has been bothering me for a long time and it?s one of the
> laundry list items I?ve been 
> > trying to cure.
> > 
> > Any assistance would be most appreciated?.
> > 
> > 
> > Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
> > Manager Fleet Publications
> > JetBlue Airways
> > 118-29 Queens Boulevard
> > 5th Floor
> > Forest Hills, NY 11375
> > Phone: 718-709-2884 (Office)
> > 347-684-2782 (Work Cell)
> > Fax: 718-709-2280
> > 
> > To fly: Call 1-800-JETBLUE or log on to jetblue.com
> > 
> > 
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Change Bars in Tables....nightmare

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

Gang

Setup:  WXP, SP3
Frame 9:  Unstructured

Problem:  Tables.

Has anyone ever figured an easier way to remove change bars from within a table?

It's a time-consuming nightmare to remove them.

Any advice is welcomed.

All the best

Eduardo



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Change Bars in Tables....nightmare

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

Gang

Setup:  WXP, SP3
Frame 9:  Unstructured

Problem:  Tables.

Has anyone ever figured an easier way to remove change bars from within a table?

It's a time-consuming nightmare to remove them.

Any advice is welcomed.

All the best

Eduardo

FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

Good morning to my fellow Frame Templars

Here's the setup:  WXP, SP3, Frame 9.0p237 (unstructured)

Problem:

At any given time, the Paragraph Designer quits.  It displays when called 
upon and works 
and that's all well and good but without notice suddenly becomes 
non-functioning.

This happens without warning and under any one of given scenarios:  single 
screen, multiple 
screens, you name it.

Anyone have a clue?

Thanks

From New York and JetBlue Airways

Eduardo

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FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

Good morning to my fellow Frame Templars

Here's the setup:  WXP, SP3, Frame 9.0p237 (unstructured)

Problem:

At any given time, the Paragraph Designer "quits."  It displays when called 
upon and works 
and that's all well and good but without notice suddenly becomes 
non-functioning.

This happens without warning and under any one of given scenarios:  single 
screen, multiple 
screens, you name it.

Anyone have a clue?

Thanks

>From New York and JetBlue Airways

Eduardo

Re: Re: A Graphics Library...Why?

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

Thanks Edward.  You and fellow Frame Templars have given me a bit to go on.

The procedure is therethat's not the voidit's the why behind it.

Why am I doing it?
Is there a regulatory requirement?
Is this auditable (is that a word?)
Is there a Return on Investment (ROI)?

Again, so many thanksstill open to suggestions

All the best

Eduardo

On Tue 22/06/10 17:49 , DeRosier, Edward edward.deros...@anritsu.com sent:
 Hi Eduardo,
 
 Seems like the answering messages got hijacked with wistful desires for
 features and specifications...
 
 To get back to your request, I intuit that you are documenting standard
 work policies, either already existing or possibly needed.  To support
 the creation of your library, you can imagine various uses in the near
 future.  Your own list included:
 
 Traceability
 Locating Graphics
 Documentation Mapping
 
 If a Writer needs a compound image with existing parts or with a
 combination of existing and new parts (parts = the widgets your writers
 are documenting), what is the most economical and the most convenient
 way to get started?
 
 For consistent documents and also for ease of building a drawing,
 havinga stock of drawing building blocks makes a lot of sense.   In my
 currentjob, we write maintenance manuals with various test setups.  The test
 instruments and the test components are collected in a library as we
 create them (while drawing a new test setup).  When we add a new
 instrument to a standard test, we can collect standard drawings and
 symbolic components so that all of our test descriptions in all of our
 manuals have a similar style.  This is intended to give the customers a
 comfortable feeling while following our instructions.
 
 Our test instruments are fairly complex signal generators, power
 meters,spectrum analyzers, and vector network analyzers.  We create outline
 drawings in Adobe Illustrator that show the connections, buttons, and
 display panels.  We find our library of images both convenient and cost
 effective.  It certainly saves time by having many drawing components
 already available for copy and paste.
 
 I can image a procedure that describes:
 
 General formatting and styles for drawings
 Storage locations, names, and groupings (folders/subdirectories) for
 convenient search
 Grayscale drawings and color images for different document purposes
 Photos versus drawings
 
 A new team member would want to know what style is required and where
 tofind examples.  Your SOP could answer such questions and serve as a
 reminder to the whole team for both storage and recall of new and
 existing images.
 
 I hope this is helpful.  Auditors seem to have a need to justify these
 things.
 
 Ed DeRosier
 
 
 
 


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A Graphics Library...Why?

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

Thanks Edward.  You and fellow Frame Templars have given me a bit to go on.

The procedure is therethat's not the voidit's the "why" behind it.

Why am I doing it?
Is there a regulatory requirement?
Is this "auditable" (is that a word?)
Is there a Return on Investment (ROI)?

Again, so many thanksstill open to suggestions

All the best

Eduardo

On Tue 22/06/10 17:49 , "DeRosier, Edward" Edward.DeRosier at anritsu.com sent:
> Hi Eduardo,
> 
> Seems like the answering messages got hijacked with wistful desires for
> features and specifications...
> 
> To get back to your request, I intuit that you are documenting standard
> work policies, either already existing or possibly needed.  To support
> the creation of your library, you can imagine various uses in the near
> future.  Your own list included:
> 
> Traceability
> Locating Graphics
> Documentation Mapping
> 
> If a Writer needs a compound image with existing parts or with a
> combination of existing and new parts (parts = the widgets your writers
> are documenting), what is the most economical and the most convenient
> way to get started?
> 
> For consistent documents and also for ease of building a drawing,
> havinga stock of drawing building blocks makes a lot of sense.   In my
> currentjob, we write maintenance manuals with various test setups.  The test
> instruments and the test components are collected in a library as we
> create them (while drawing a new test setup).  When we add a new
> instrument to a standard test, we can collect standard drawings and
> symbolic components so that all of our test descriptions in all of our
> manuals have a similar style.  This is intended to give the customers a
> comfortable feeling while following our instructions.
> 
> Our test instruments are fairly complex signal generators, power
> meters,spectrum analyzers, and vector network analyzers.  We create outline
> drawings in Adobe Illustrator that show the connections, buttons, and
> display panels.  We find our library of images both convenient and cost
> effective.  It certainly saves time by having many drawing components
> already available for copy and paste.
> 
> I can image a procedure that describes:
> 
> General formatting and styles for drawings
> Storage locations, names, and groupings (folders/subdirectories) for
> convenient search
> Grayscale drawings and color images for different document purposes
> Photos versus drawings
> 
> A new team member would want to know what style is required and where
> tofind examples.  Your SOP could answer such questions and serve as a
> reminder to the whole team for both storage and recall of new and
> existing images.
> 
> I hope this is helpful.  Auditors seem to have a need to justify these
> things.
> 
> Ed DeRosier
> 
> 
> 
> 

A Graphics Library...Why?

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good evening fellow Framers and Frame Templars

I've built a specification for a Standard Operating Procedure (SOP)
regarding building a Graphics Library (call it a database, tracker,
whatever).

One thing that gnaws at this old writer is the standard question:  Why?

I could use reasons such as:
Traceability
Locating Graphics
Documentation Mapping

It's just eluding me as to a rock-solid answer on this.

Just reaching out to you all for some input or a resource I can tap.  I have
the procedure and policy and framework (no pun intended) in place but in
doing this, I also know internal auditors will ask the pervasive question,
Why?

Have a safe and interesting evening.

From Forest Hills, NY

Eduardo



I'm just another writer, still trapped within my truth;
A hesitant prize fighter, still trapped within my youth. 
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[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good evening fellow Framers and Frame Templars

I've built a specification for a Standard Operating Procedure (SOP)
regarding building a Graphics Library (call it a database, tracker,
whatever).

One thing that gnaws at this old writer is the standard question:  Why?

I could use reasons such as:
Traceability
Locating Graphics
Documentation Mapping

It's just eluding me as to a rock-solid answer on this.

Just reaching out to you all for some input or a resource I can tap.  I have
the procedure and policy and framework (no pun intended) in place but in
doing this, I also know internal auditors will ask the pervasive question,
"Why?"

Have a safe and interesting evening.

>From Forest Hills, NY

Eduardo



"I'm just another writer, still trapped within my truth;
A hesitant prize fighter, still trapped within my youth." 
   Dan Hill

Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

Thanks for the insight Les

That's one of the amazing things about this onethe font characteristics 
across both 
pieces of information are identicalthat's what has me a bit stumped.

But will investigate it in the morningcloser look might be in order

Thank you

All the best

Eduardo


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On Tue 01/06/10 22:27 , Les Smalley l_c_smalley at yahoo.com sent:
> Is there any change in the font characteristics across the two pieces
> (size, weight, etc.) of your entry - the content from the marker and
> the leader/page number?
> 
> The default behavior is that Frame will make the link area begin at
> the page number (turn on the display of markers in the index) and a
> hyperlink will span only across text of identical font
> characteristics.
> 
> --- On TUE, 6/1/10, EDUARDO F. CIDADE SR. _ _ wrote:
> David
> 
> Generating the index isn't a problem.  It's the resulting PDFthe
> linking area doesn't extend to the entire index entryonly the
> leader dots and page numbering.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> All the best
> 
> Eduardo
> 
> Electronic Signature:
> 
> Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
> 
> On Tue 01/06/10 21:18 , David Spreadbury dspreadb at yahoo.com sent:
> 
> > Eduardo, Are you trying to create an Index or an Index (IX) of
> > Markers (IOM)?   With your book open, select Add > Standard Index.
> > This will create an Index (.ix) file of the Index entries you have
> > embedded in your doc.   From what you are saying you appear to be
> > attempting to create an Index of Markers.
> > 
> > --- On TUE, 6/1/10, EDUARDO F. CIDADE SR. __ wrote:
> > 
> > Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast
> > 
> > First the setup: WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9
> Professional
> > 
> > Now the dilemma:  
> > 
> > In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and
> > "breakout" of different levels:
> > 
> > Level Page Number
> > 
> > L1IOM ... X-X
> > L2IOM . Y-Y
> > L3IOM  Z-Z
> > 
> > The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is
> > "drawn" (for lack of a better word) around the leader dots and page
> > number and NOT the text in the respective IOM.
> > 
> > I know there was a "fix" for this quite a while ago, but for the
> life
> > of me, I can't remember what that was.
> > 
> > Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???
> > 
> > All the best
> > 
> > From New York
> > 
> > Eduardo
> 
> 

Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast

First the setup:  WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9 Professional

Now the dilemma:  

In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and breakout of 
different 
levels:

Level Page Number

L1IOM ... X-X
  L2IOM . Y-Y
   L3IOM  Z-Z

The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is drawn (for 
lack of a 
better word) around the leader dots and page number and NOT the text in the 
respective IOM.

I know there was a fix for this quite a while ago, but for the life of me, I 
can't 
remember what that was.

Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???

All the best

From New York

Eduardo



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Re: Re: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

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David

Generating the index isn't a problem.  It's the resulting PDFthe linking 
area doesn't 
extend to the entire index entryonly the leader dots and page numbering.

Thank you

All the best

Eduardo


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On Tue 01/06/10 21:18 , David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com sent:
 Eduardo, Are you trying to create an Index or an Index (IX) of
 Markers (IOM)?   With your book open, select Add  Standard Index.
 This will create an Index (.ix) file of the Index entries you have
 embedded in your doc.   From what you are saying you appear to be
 attempting to create an Index of Markers.
 
 --- On TUE, 6/1/10, EDUARDO F. CIDADE SR. __ wrote:
 From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. 
 Subject: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 5:42 PM
 
 Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast
 
 First the setup:  WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9
 Professional
 
 Now the dilemma:  
 
 In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and
 breakout of different 
 levels:
 
 Level Page Number
 
 L1IOM ... X-X
 L2IOM . Y-Y
 L3IOM  Z-Z
 
 The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is
 drawn (for lack of a 
 better word) around the leader dots and page number and NOT the text
 in the respective IOM.
 
 I know there was a fix for this quite a while ago, but for the life
 of me, I can't 
 remember what that was.
 
 Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???
 
 All the best
 
 From New York
 
 Eduardo
 
 


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Re: Re: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

Thanks for the insight Les

That's one of the amazing things about this onethe font characteristics 
across both 
pieces of information are identicalthat's what has me a bit stumped.

But will investigate it in the morningcloser look might be in order

Thank you

All the best

Eduardo


Electronic Signature:

Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.

On Tue 01/06/10 22:27 , Les Smalley l_c_smal...@yahoo.com sent:
 Is there any change in the font characteristics across the two pieces
 (size, weight, etc.) of your entry - the content from the marker and
 the leader/page number?
 
 The default behavior is that Frame will make the link area begin at
 the page number (turn on the display of markers in the index) and a
 hyperlink will span only across text of identical font
 characteristics.
 
 --- On TUE, 6/1/10, EDUARDO F. CIDADE SR. _ _ wrote:
 David
 
 Generating the index isn't a problem.  It's the resulting PDFthe
 linking area doesn't extend to the entire index entryonly the
 leader dots and page numbering.
 
 Thank you
 
 All the best
 
 Eduardo
 
 Electronic Signature:
 
 Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
 
 On Tue 01/06/10 21:18 , David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com sent:
 
  Eduardo, Are you trying to create an Index or an Index (IX) of
  Markers (IOM)?   With your book open, select Add  Standard Index.
  This will create an Index (.ix) file of the Index entries you have
  embedded in your doc.   From what you are saying you appear to be
  attempting to create an Index of Markers.
  
  --- On TUE, 6/1/10, EDUARDO F. CIDADE SR. __ wrote:
  
  Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast
  
  First the setup: WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9
 Professional
  
  Now the dilemma:  
  
  In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and
  breakout of different levels:
  
  Level Page Number
  
  L1IOM ... X-X
  L2IOM . Y-Y
  L3IOM  Z-Z
  
  The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is
  drawn (for lack of a better word) around the leader dots and page
  number and NOT the text in the respective IOM.
  
  I know there was a fix for this quite a while ago, but for the
 life
  of me, I can't remember what that was.
  
  Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???
  
  All the best
  
  From New York
  
  Eduardo
 
 


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Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast

First the setup:  WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9 Professional

Now the dilemma:  

In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and "breakout" of 
different 
levels:

Level Page Number

L1IOM ... X-X
  L2IOM . Y-Y
   L3IOM  Z-Z

The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is "drawn" (for 
lack of a 
better word) around the leader dots and page number and NOT the text in the 
respective IOM.

I know there was a "fix" for this quite a while ago, but for the life of me, I 
can't 
remember what that was.

Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???

All the best

>From New York

Eduardo

Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

David

Generating the index isn't a problem.  It's the resulting PDFthe linking 
area doesn't 
extend to the entire index entryonly the leader dots and page numbering.

Thank you

All the best

Eduardo


Electronic Signature:

Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.

On Tue 01/06/10 21:18 , David Spreadbury dspreadb at yahoo.com sent:
> Eduardo, Are you trying to create an Index or an Index (IX) of
> Markers (IOM)?   With your book open, select Add > Standard Index.
> This will create an Index (.ix) file of the Index entries you have
> embedded in your doc.   From what you are saying you appear to be
> attempting to create an Index of Markers.
> 
> --- On TUE, 6/1/10, EDUARDO F. CIDADE SR. __ wrote:
> From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. 
> Subject: Active Areas from Frame-Generated Index(es)
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 5:42 PM
> 
> Good afternoon from JFK Airport...raining and overcast
> 
> First the setup:  WXP, Frame 8 (Unstructured) and Acrobat 9
> Professional
> 
> Now the dilemma:  
> 
> In generating an index, there's no problem with the creation and
> "breakout" of different 
> levels:
> 
> Level Page Number
> 
> L1IOM ... X-X
> L2IOM . Y-Y
> L3IOM  Z-Z
> 
> The problem stems from the resulting PDF where the active area is
> "drawn" (for lack of a 
> better word) around the leader dots and page number and NOT the text
> in the respective IOM.
> 
> I know there was a "fix" for this quite a while ago, but for the life
> of me, I can't 
> remember what that was.
> 
> Anyone out there willing to help out a fellow Frame Templar???
> 
> All the best
> 
> From New York
> 
> Eduardo
> 
> 

FrameMaker and XML Training Resources

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

I have a lot of unstructured Frame experience.  Even did some work in the 
SGML/XML arena.

What I seek are two things:

1.  Is there definitive guidance on taking me from the basics of XML and beyond 
with an eye 
solely dedicated to FrameMaker?

2.  Is there also guidance on the adaptation of XML data to a Content 
Management System?

Any help is, as always, appreciated.

Thank you

All the best

Eduardo


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FrameMaker and XML Training Resources

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

I have a lot of unstructured Frame experience.  Even did some work in the 
SGML/XML arena.

What I seek are two things:

1.  Is there definitive guidance on taking me from the basics of XML and beyond 
with an eye 
solely dedicated to FrameMaker?

2.  Is there also guidance on the adaptation of XML data to a Content 
Management System?

Any help is, as always, appreciated.

Thank you

All the best

Eduardo

Re:Adobe's New Corporate Strategies

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

My two cents...if only that:

So what is it we seek?  

and

Does Adobe Systems listen?

As for me, I'm perfectly content with the latest version of Frame.  I can only 
take so much 
technology upgrade.

Opinion is my own.

From New York

Eduardo

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Adobe's New Corporate Strategies

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

My two cents...if only that:

So what is it we seek?  

and

Does Adobe Systems listen?

As for me, I'm perfectly content with the latest version of Frame.  I can only 
take so much 
technology upgrade.

Opinion is my own.

>From New York

Eduardo

O.T. Problem with Adobe Acrobat Catalog (or Index if you prefer)

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

Good morning fellow Acrobats

First, the setup:  Windows XP, Acrobat 9

Now, the problem.  I'm indexing a driving containing literally thousands of 
PDFs (3,474 to 
be exact) and until upgrading to Acrobat 9, never had a problem updating the 
index (or 
catalog).

Today, I tried updating the index and get these messages:

Could not open document : D:\XX\INFORMATION NOTICES\Information Notices 
Archive\Expired 
Flight Ops\General Information Notices\2006-F080TR.pdf-High Quality 
Print.joboptions
Could not open document : D:\XX\INFORMATION NOTICES\Information Notices 
Archive\Expired 
Flight Ops\General Information Notices\2006-F082TR.pdf-High Quality 
Print.joboptions
Could not open document : D:\XX\INFORMATION NOTICES\Information Notices 
Archive\Expired 
Flight Ops\General Information Notices\2006-F084TR.pdf-High Quality 
Print.joboptions
Could not open document : D:\XX\INFORMATION NOTICES\Information Notices 
Archive\Expired 
Flight Ops\General Information Notices\2006-F089.pdf-High Quality 
Print.joboptions
and continues on ad-nauseum

Now the puzzler:  The documents are entitled XX.pdf but do not have the 
joboptions 
piece appended to them.

The preferences have been edited to include indexing from other drives, so that 
shouldn't 
factor.

Has anyone experienced this before?  Is there some sort of update we should 
grab?

I can't go back to the previous version and don't want to either.

Thank you

All the best

Eduardo



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Re: Re: O.T. Problem with Adobe Acrobat Catalog (or Index if you prefer)

[Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .]

Art

As usual, I made a rookie mistake and prevailed on your skillsets to help.

Also, I'm about, oh, five or six updates shyso I will endeavor to properly 
update and 
see what happens.

I'll let ya know

All the best

Eduardo


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On Wed 27/01/10 11:48 , Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com sent:
 It's hard to know if you should grab an update because you didn't
 specify your patch level Help  About.
 The Acrobat updates page may be something for you to look at.
 
 Because you're running XP, be sure to install the Microsoft Hotfix for
 PS printers, including Acrobat:
 http://support.microsoft.com/?id=952909 --
 it applies to all PSprinters, including the logical PDF.
 
 Art Campbell
 art.ca
 mpb...@gmail.com... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.
 ecid
 a...@zoominternet.net wrote: Good morning fellow Acrobats
 
  First, the setup:  Windows XP, Acrobat
 9
  Now, the problem.  I'm indexing a driving
 containing literally thousands of PDFs (3,474 to be exact) and until 
 upgrading to 
Acrobat 9, never
 had a problem updating the index (or catalog).
 
  Today, I tried updating the index and get these
 messages:
  Could not open document : D:\XX\INFORMATION
 NOTICES\Information Notices Archive\Expired Flight Ops\General Information
 Notices\2006-F080TR.pdf-High Quality Print.joboptions Could not open 
 document : 
D:\XX\INFORMATION
 NOTICES\Information Notices Archive\Expired Flight Ops\General Information
 Notices\2006-F082TR.pdf-High Quality Print.joboptions Could not open 
 document : 
D:\XX\INFORMATION
 NOTICES\Information Notices Archive\Expired Flight Ops\General Information
 Notices\2006-F084TR.pdf-High Quality Print.joboptions Could not open 
 document : 
D:\XX\INFORMATION
 NOTICES\Information Notices Archive\Expired Flight Ops\General Information
 Notices\2006-F089.pdf-High Quality Print.joboptions and continues on 
 ad-nauseum
 
  Now the puzzler:  The documents are entitled
 XX.pdf but do not have the joboptions piece appended to them.
 
  The preferences have been edited to include
 indexing from other drives, so that shouldn't factor.
 
  Has anyone experienced this before?  Is there some
 sort of update we should grab?
  I can't go back to the previous version and don't
 want to either.
  Thank you
 
  All the best
 
  Eduardo
 
 
 
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O.T. Problem with Adobe Acrobat Catalog (or Index if you prefer)

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

Good morning fellow Acrobats

First, the setup:  Windows XP, Acrobat 9

Now, the problem.  I'm indexing a driving containing literally thousands of 
PDFs (3,474 to 
be exact) and until upgrading to Acrobat 9, never had a problem updating the 
index (or 
catalog).

Today, I tried updating the index and get these messages:

Could not open document : D:\XX\INFORMATION NOTICES\Information Notices 
Archive\Expired 
Flight Ops\General Information Notices\2006-F080TR.pdf-High Quality 
Print.joboptions
Could not open document : D:\XX\INFORMATION NOTICES\Information Notices 
Archive\Expired 
Flight Ops\General Information Notices\2006-F082TR.pdf-High Quality 
Print.joboptions
Could not open document : D:\XX\INFORMATION NOTICES\Information Notices 
Archive\Expired 
Flight Ops\General Information Notices\2006-F084TR.pdf-High Quality 
Print.joboptions
Could not open document : D:\XX\INFORMATION NOTICES\Information Notices 
Archive\Expired 
Flight Ops\General Information Notices\2006-F089.pdf-High Quality 
Print.joboptions
and continues on ad-nauseum

Now the puzzler:  The documents are entitled XX.pdf but do not have the 
"joboptions" 
piece appended to them.

The preferences have been edited to include indexing from other drives, so that 
shouldn't 
factor.

Has anyone experienced this before?  Is there some sort of update we should 
grab?

I can't go back to the previous version and don't want to either.

Thank you

All the best

Eduardo



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O.T. Problem with Adobe Acrobat Catalog (or Index if you prefer)

[Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.]

Art

As usual, I made a rookie mistake and prevailed on your skillsets to help.

Also, I'm about, oh, five or six updates shyso I will endeavor to properly 
update and 
see what happens.

I'll let ya know

All the best

Eduardo


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Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.

On Wed 27/01/10 11:48 , Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com sent:
> It's hard to know if you should grab an update because you didn't
> specify your patch level Help > About.
> The Acrobat updates page may be something for you to look at.
> 
> Because you're running XP, be sure to install the Microsoft Hotfix for
> PS printers, including Acrobat:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=952909 --
> it applies to all PSprinters, including the logical PDF.
> 
> Art Campbell
> art.ca
> mpbell at gmail.com"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a 
> '52
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> No disclaimers apply.
> DoD 358
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.
> ecid
> ade at zoominternet.net> wrote:> Good morning fellow Acrobats
> >
> > First, the setup: ?Windows XP, Acrobat
> 9>
> > Now, the problem. ?I'm indexing a driving
> containing literally thousands of PDFs (3,474 to> be exact) and until 
> upgrading to 
Acrobat 9, never
> had a problem updating the index (or> catalog).
> >
> > Today, I tried updating the index and get these
> messages:>
> > Could not open document : D:\XX\INFORMATION
> NOTICES\Information Notices Archive\Expired> Flight Ops\General Information
> Notices\2006-F080TR.pdf-High Quality Print.joboptions> Could not open 
> document : 
D:\XX\INFORMATION
> NOTICES\Information Notices Archive\Expired> Flight Ops\General Information
> Notices\2006-F082TR.pdf-High Quality Print.joboptions> Could not open 
> document : 
D:\XX\INFORMATION
> NOTICES\Information Notices Archive\Expired> Flight Ops\General Information
> Notices\2006-F084TR.pdf-High Quality Print.joboptions> Could not open 
> document : 
D:\XX\INFORMATION
> NOTICES\Information Notices Archive\Expired> Flight Ops\General Information
> Notices\2006-F089.pdf-High Quality Print.joboptions> and continues on 
> ad-nauseum
> >
> > Now the puzzler: ?The documents are entitled
> XX.pdf but do not have the "joboptions"> piece appended to them.
> >
> > The preferences have been edited to include
> indexing from other drives, so that shouldn't> factor.
> >
> > Has anyone experienced this before? ?Is there some
> sort of update we should grab?>
> > I can't go back to the previous version and don't
> want to either.>
> > Thank you
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Eduardo
> >
> >
> >
> > Electronic Signature:
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> > Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
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RE: [f2a] A Frame Problem for the Record Books

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Patrick

 

Thank you very much for the quick and ernest reply

 

I had already tried that but thought I missed a step (hey, after a 12 hour
workday, it happens)

 

..it didn't work.

 

It has to be something in the text from page 79 onward.something that is
embedded in there that is making this so quirky as to defy explanation.

 

I will keep investigating, but am turning in for the night very soon..gotta
keep up with the shuteye..

 

Thank you again

 

All the best

 

Eduardo

 

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Eduardo,

My guess is that somehow or other, you have disconnected text frames. I 
tested it, and disconnected text frames can have the same flow tag.

Regardless of how it happened, try reconnecting them:

1. Ctrl-click to select the first text frame.

2. Ctrl-click to select the second text frame.

3. Select Format  Customize Layout  Connect Text Frames. (I have Frame 
7.2; may be different in your version.)

Option B: Cut and paste the disconnected text at the end of page 79, then 
delete the leftover pages.

Patrick Justice
JustWrite Associates
Huntington Beach, CA USA
_justwri...@aol.com mailto:_justwrite3%40aol.com _
(mailto:justwri...@aol.com mailto:justwrite3%40aol.com ) 

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Good evening fellow Framers 

Here's one I've NEVER encountered before. 

First, the setup: WXP, Frame 8 (unstructured) 

As I'm developing a document I'm proceeding from page to page, no
problem. 

Suddenly, I reach the end (or I THOUGHT) it was the end on page 79
of a 90 page document, you know at the end of a Frame file, you
encounter the end of file symbol, sort of a double-S 

When what to my wandering eyes should appear?more text on page
80! It's the next page which I cannot, for the life of me, get to
behave or come forward to page 79. It's as if there is a different,
separate, text flow so I checked for a Flow: B and there isn't any.

I'm at the end of my work day and am putting this one (and myself)
to bedto tackle it in the morning, but if anyone out there has
encountered this before, please let me knowthis is odd beyond
anything I've ever encountered before. 

Thanks and all the best 

From New York City 

Eduardo 

724.494.9213 (cell)

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[f2a] A Frame Problem for the Record Books

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Patrick



Thank you very much for the quick and ernest reply



I had already tried that but thought I missed a step (hey, after a 12 hour
workday, it happens)



..it didn't work.



It has to be something in the text from page 79 onward.something that is
embedded in there that is making this so quirky as to defy explanation.



I will keep investigating, but am turning in for the night very soon..gotta
keep up with the shuteye..



Thank you again



All the best



Eduardo



From: frame2acrobat at yahoogroups.com [mailto:frame2acro...@yahoogroups.com]
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Subject: Re: [f2a] A Frame Problem for the Record Books









Eduardo,

My guess is that somehow or other, you have disconnected text frames. I 
tested it, and disconnected text frames can have the same flow tag.

Regardless of how it happened, try reconnecting them:

1. Ctrl-click to select the first text frame.

2. Ctrl-click to select the second text frame.

3. Select Format > Customize Layout > Connect Text Frames. (I have Frame 
7.2; may be different in your version.)

Option B: Cut and paste the disconnected text at the end of page 79, then 
delete the leftover pages.

Patrick Justice
JustWrite Associates
Huntington Beach, CA USA
_justwrite3 at aol.com  _
(mailto:justwrite3 at aol.com  ) 

Subj: [f2a] A Frame Problem for the Record Books Date: 6/15/2009 4:00 
Pacific Daylight Time From: _ecidade at zoominternet.net
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Good evening fellow Framers 

Here's one I've NEVER encountered before. 

First, the setup: WXP, Frame 8 (unstructured) 

As I'm developing a document I'm proceeding from page to page, no
problem. 

Suddenly, I reach the end (or I THOUGHT) it was the end on page 79
of a 90 page document, you know at the end of a Frame file, you
encounter the "end of file" symbol, sort of a "double-S" 

When what to my wandering eyes should appear?more text on page
80! It's the next page which I cannot, for the life of me, get to
behave or come forward to page 79. It's as if there is a different,
separate, text flow so I checked for a "Flow: B" and there isn't any.

I'm at the end of my work day and am putting this one (and myself)
to bedto tackle it in the morning, but if anyone out there has
encountered this before, please let me knowthis is odd beyond
anything I've ever encountered before. 

Thanks and all the best 

>From New York City 

Eduardo 

724.494.9213 (cell)

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Cross-references within a web browser...PDF to PDF

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good morning all.

I have had limited success with this and previously posted up inquiries but
received no replies.  Still looking for some guidance or assistance.

I'm using Standard Framemaker, version 7.2 and Acrobat 8.1.3 Professional

I use Microsoft Front Page for editing the HTML side of things with a frame
going down the left and side of the screen which launches a PDF of a manual,
broken down by chapter.  I have discovered that, yup, the HTML side will
allow a user navigate to the PDF, but when using cross-references in PDFs
from within a document to within another document, the navigation doesn't
work.  

Examples:
1.  If a user is in Chapter 1...and there is a direct link to Chapter 5
(chapter to chapter), the navigation works and it works well.
2.  If a user is at Paragraph 1.14.3 and attempts to go to Chapter 5,
the navigation works and it works well.
3.  Now, if a user is at Paragraph 1.14.3 and attempts to go to
Paragraph 5.3.7, the cross-reference between chapters will take the user to
Chapter 5.at its beginning and not the intended target of Paragraph 5.3.7.

Am I making any sense?

So I'm still in a quandary over this.  The above problem manifests itself in
ANY web browser and I've attempted to use 4 of them to see if one version
works better or as well as another.no luck.

This is just prototyping but it has been sitting on the back burner for a
while..still looking for some guidance or assistance.

All the best

Eduardo



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CWO3, USCG, Retired

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Cross-references within a web browser...PDF to PDF

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good morning all.

I have had limited success with this and previously posted up inquiries but
received no replies.  Still looking for some guidance or assistance.

I'm using Standard Framemaker, version 7.2 and Acrobat 8.1.3 Professional

I use Microsoft Front Page for editing the HTML side of things with a frame
going down the left and side of the screen which launches a PDF of a manual,
broken down by chapter.  I have discovered that, yup, the HTML side will
allow a user navigate to the PDF, but when using cross-references in PDFs
from within a document to within another document, the "navigation" doesn't
work.  

Examples:
1.  If a user is in Chapter 1...and there is a direct link to Chapter 5
(chapter to chapter), the navigation works and it works well.
2.  If a user is at Paragraph 1.14.3 and attempts to go to Chapter 5,
the navigation works and it works well.
3.  Now, if a user is at Paragraph 1.14.3 and attempts to go to
Paragraph 5.3.7, the cross-reference between chapters will take the user to
Chapter 5.at its beginning and not the intended "target" of Paragraph 5.3.7.

Am I making any sense?

So I'm still in a quandary over this.  The above problem manifests itself in
ANY web browser and I've attempted to use 4 of them to see if one version
works better or as well as another.no luck.

This is just prototyping but it has been sitting on the back burner for a
while..still looking for some guidance or assistance.

All the best

Eduardo



Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
CWO3, USCG, Retired

"Home is the place where, when you have to go there, They have to take you
in."

Making PDFs Find other PDFs Within a Web Environment

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good evening fellow Framers and Acrobats:

The setup:
FrameMaker 7.2
Acrobat 8
Timesavers

But I don't believe the above has anything to do with the problems I'm
experiencing

Some very strange behavior displayed by PDFs.

Scenario:

.in a Web Browser:

Chapter 2 (SOM02.pdf) is opened by hypertext link within a web browser.
The PDF containing Chapter 2 opens correctly and is displayed with full vim
and vigor.
In FrameMaker, a cross-reference was created to Chapter 7 (SOM07),
specifically to Section 7.2, on page 3 
Yet, when the link for Section 7.2 is clicked, the corresponding Chapter 7
PDF opens  but instead of going to Section 7.2, it launches to the first
page of Chapter 7.

.now in an Acrobat Environment

The same Chapter 2 is opened and displayed.
When the link for Section 7.2 is clicked, it navigates correctly to Section
7.2 contained on page 3!

I've searched and searched and searched but cannot find anything relating to
this type of behavior.

Has anyone else experienced this and can you tell me your workaround???

Thank you.
Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr. 
Technical Writer
CWO3, U. S. Coast Guard (Retired)

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Making PDFs Find other PDFs Within a Web Environment

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good evening fellow Framers and Acrobats:

The setup:
FrameMaker 7.2
Acrobat 8
Timesavers

But I don't believe the above has anything to do with the problems I'm
experiencing

Some very strange behavior displayed by PDFs.

Scenario:

.in a Web Browser:

Chapter 2 (SOM02.pdf) is opened by hypertext link within a web browser.
The PDF containing Chapter 2 opens correctly and is displayed with full vim
and vigor.
In FrameMaker, a cross-reference was created to Chapter 7 (SOM07),
specifically to Section 7.2, on page 3 
Yet, when the link for Section 7.2 is clicked, the corresponding Chapter 7
PDF opens  but instead of going to Section 7.2, it launches to the first
page of Chapter 7.

.now in an Acrobat Environment

The same Chapter 2 is opened and displayed.
When the link for Section 7.2 is clicked, it navigates correctly to Section
7.2 contained on page 3!

I've searched and searched and searched but cannot find anything relating to
this type of behavior.

Has anyone else experienced this and can you tell me your workaround???

Thank you.
Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr. 
Technical Writer
CWO3, U. S. Coast Guard (Retired)

We few.  We happy few.  We band of brothers.
  Shakespeare, Henry V

FrameMaker Spell Checking

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good afternoon fellow Framers

A colleague of mine posed a question on FrameMaker spell-checking:

Anything out there that can supplement the current Frame environment for
spell-checking?  
Or better yet, can we expect an improvement in this area as Frame isn't
very robust.

Just checking in and wondering

From this tiny town in Western Pennsylvania..

Eduardo



Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
Technical Writer and Consultant
CWO3, U. S. Coast Guard (Retired)

It's a lot better having someone in your corner encouraging you,
...than to have someone in your corner pushing you out to the center of
the ring.
   Somewhere In North Sewickley Township

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[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good afternoon fellow Framers

A colleague of mine posed a question on FrameMaker spell-checking:

Anything out there that can supplement the current Frame environment for
spell-checking?  
Or better yet, can we expect an improvement in this area as Frame isn't
very robust.

Just checking in and wondering

>From this tiny town in Western Pennsylvania..

Eduardo



Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
Technical Writer and Consultant
CWO3, U. S. Coast Guard (Retired)

"It's a lot better having someone in your corner encouraging you,
...than to have someone in your corner pushing you out to the center of
the ring."
   Somewhere In North Sewickley Township

Variable on Master Pages.....getting them to talk

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good evening all

Here's what I'm trying to accomplish:

Standard Frame 7.2WXP is the environment

Master page...trying to create a variable which will amplify the page
number sequencing

Here's what the numbering looks like now:

2H-2 (this is actually page 1 because it follows another document, so
the numbering follows the preceding document)



Here's what I want the page numbering to look like but don't know how:

2H-2A (there are reasons for wanting thistoo many and it involves
trying to steer away from disconnected pages)

Followed by

2H-2B
2H-2C

.and so on

Is there a way to add such a variable to the master page?  I know there
must be.

Thinking caps onphasers on stun.warp speed Mr. Sulu!

Thanks to all

Eduardo

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[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good evening all

Here's what I'm trying to accomplish:

Standard Frame 7.2WXP is the environment

Master page...trying to create a variable which will amplify the page
number sequencing

Here's what the numbering looks like now:

2H-2 (this is actually page 1 because it follows another document, so
the numbering follows the preceding document)



Here's what I want the page numbering to look like but don't know how:

2H-2A (there are reasons for wanting thistoo many and it involves
trying to steer away from disconnected pages)

Followed by

2H-2B
2H-2C

.and so on

Is there a way to add such a variable to the master page?  I know there
must be.

Thinking caps onphasers on stun.warp speed Mr. Sulu!

Thanks to all

Eduardo

Frame-to-PDF-to-Frame

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good morning from the USA.

I was discussing with an associate the merits of converting a PDF to
FrameMaker.  The object, of course, being that it would take time for this
type of conversion since there is no known methodology of round-tripping a
FrameMaker-to-PDF-to-FrameMaker document.

My associate then informed me that someone told him it was entirely possible
to do this.  He did not get a name to go along with this revelation.  After
much discussion and some research, I still cannot find the answer.

So I ask my fellow Acrobats, Frame Templars, and those who I believe are in
the know about FrameMaker the same question:

Is it possible to round-trip a document from
FrameMaker-to-PDF-to-FrameMaker? and...
if it is possible, is it easy (click here, there, and everywhere)

or

Does the same methodology of converting from PDF to FrameMaker applytake
time, money, and efforting.

Puzzled in Western Pennsylvania

Eduardo
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Frame-to-PDF-to-Frame

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good morning from the USA.

I was discussing with an associate the merits of converting a PDF to
FrameMaker.  The object, of course, being that it would take time for this
type of conversion since there is no known methodology of "round-tripping" a
FrameMaker-to-PDF-to-FrameMaker document.

My associate then informed me that someone told him it was entirely possible
to do this.  He did not get a name to go along with this revelation.  After
much discussion and some research, I still cannot find the answer.

So I ask my fellow Acrobats, Frame Templars, and those who I believe are in
the know about FrameMaker the same question:

"Is it possible to round-trip a document from
FrameMaker-to-PDF-to-FrameMaker?" and...
"if it is possible, is it easy (click here, there, and everywhere)"

or

Does the same methodology of converting from PDF to FrameMaker applytake
time, money, and efforting.

Puzzled in Western Pennsylvania

Eduardo

Spot Color Printing Problem

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good morning from beautiful Beaver County, Western PA

First the setup:

Frame 7.0p578, Acrobat 5.05, WXP Standard

Next the document:

Have a small document with some red text and color graphics.

Now the problem:

Printing to a postscript file, I turn the Spot Color as Black/White
Document prints to a postscript file
I render said postscript through Distiller
Produces a PDF successfully, only the color is still in color, not in
Black/White

Any ever encounter this?  In 10 years of using FrameMaker, this is a first
for yours truly.

Thanks and all the best

Eduardo

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Spot Color Printing Problem

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good morning from beautiful Beaver County, Western PA

First the setup:

Frame 7.0p578, Acrobat 5.05, WXP Standard

Next the document:

Have a small document with some red text and color graphics.

Now the problem:

Printing to a postscript file, I turn the "Spot Color as Black/White"
Document prints to a postscript file
I render said postscript through Distiller
Produces a PDF successfully, only the color is still in color, not in
Black/White

Any ever encounter this?  In 10 years of using FrameMaker, this is a first
for yours truly.

Thanks and all the best

Eduardo

Professing ignorance about Acrobat 7

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Fellow Frame Templars, here's the setup first:

WXP, Frame 7.0xxx, Acro 7.0 (yup, I finally broke down and got it)

Wise old proverbbe careful what you wish for.

I performed the deinstall of Acrobat 5 and accomplished the install of
Acrobat 7it was long, painful, and rather lengthy, but it did complete.

Along the way, I noticed two things and this is what I'm ignorant of:

First, my printer (what I used to call Acrobat Distiller) is gone.  In it's
place is something called Adobe PDF

Secondly, I have lost my ability to print to a postcript file.I used to
have an icon named File as a printerokay, it's a virtual printer, but
it's the port I would tell the old Acrobat Distiller to print to, enabling
me to print to a postscript file, or .ps file.

Now I can't do either as when I try to print to a .ps file, I get a message
that says Cannot write to specified print file

Fellow Frame Templars!  I ask you for an assist if you too have encountered
this demon in your trials and travails..

Sword and shield in hand.

Eduardo, Errant Frame Templar

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Professing ignorance about Acrobat 7

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Fellow Frame Templars, here's the setup first:

WXP, Frame 7.0xxx, Acro 7.0 (yup, I finally broke down and got it)

Wise old proverbbe careful what you wish for.

I performed the deinstall of Acrobat 5 and accomplished the install of
Acrobat 7it was long, painful, and rather lengthy, but it did complete.

Along the way, I noticed two things and this is what I'm ignorant of:

First, my printer (what I used to call Acrobat Distiller) is gone.  In it's
place is something called "Adobe PDF"

Secondly, I have lost my ability to print to a postcript file.I used to
have an icon named "File" as a printerokay, it's a virtual printer, but
it's the port I would tell the old Acrobat Distiller to print to, enabling
me to print to a postscript file, or .ps file.

Now I can't do either as when I try to print to a .ps file, I get a message
that says "Cannot write to specified print file"

Fellow Frame Templars!  I ask you for an assist if you too have encountered
this demon in your trials and travails..

Sword and shield in hand.

Eduardo, Errant Frame Templar

Leader Dots Not Appearing on TOC

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good morning fellow Acrobats and Framers
First, the setup:  Frame 7.0p579, Acrobat 5.0.5

Okay, I generated a TOC.  The process went flawlessly.  The leader dots from
the heading*X*TOC to the page number appear.  That's not the problem.

The problem occurs twofold:

a.  When printing to a physical printer, the first row of leader dots
appears, but the second and subsequent rows do not appear.

b.  Well, then I decided to print to a .ps file, then render to a .PDF,
thinking I can beat this problem via the PDF side of the house.same
result.  The document is picture-perfect except for the leader dots.they
don't appear in the document for other than the first row.

Any hints, tips, or tricks would be most appreciated.

Regards and thanks

Eduardo
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Leader Dots Not Appearing on TOC

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good morning fellow Acrobats and Framers
First, the setup:  Frame 7.0p579, Acrobat 5.0.5

Okay, I generated a TOC.  The process went flawlessly.  The leader dots from
the heading*X*TOC to the page number appear.  That's not the problem.

The problem occurs twofold:

a.  When printing to a physical printer, the first row of leader dots
appears, but the second and subsequent rows do not appear.

b.  Well, then I decided to print to a .ps file, then render to a .PDF,
thinking I can beat this problem via the PDF side of the house.same
result.  The document is picture-perfect except for the leader dots.they
don't appear in the document for other than the first row.

Any hints, tips, or tricks would be most appreciated.

Regards and thanks

Eduardo

Font Problem

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good evening from Pennsylvania

Fellow Framers:

First, the setup:  WXP, Frame 7.0, Acrobat 6.

Now the problem:
I have a recurring problem with one document and its fonts.  Each time I
open the document, I get a message that FrameMaker does not recognize the
font Symbol Bold and will use Times instead.

Action to date:  
I generated a list of referencesfonts to locate the source of the problem
and I got a *Symbol* font that is bolded but no Symbol Bold font.

What I know to do:   
I know how to turn off this message using the FileGeneralPreferences,
however, that doesn't really solve the problem, does it?  I mean the Symbol
font is still in use and it is bolded, but there's no Symbol Bold font
within the document.

Complication:  
This problem is replicated in a series of like documents throughout the
FrameMaker book.  It's embarassing when trying to open a document and this
message pops up every now and then.  In addition, when attempting to print a
book, FrameMaker stops when it incurs this error.

Any thoughts out there?

Thanks

Eduardo




Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
Documentation Consultant
CWO3, U. S. Coast Guard (Retired)

Heroes:  Ordinary people...doing extraordinary things...in extraordinary
times.

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Font Problem

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good evening from Pennsylvania

Fellow Framers:

First, the setup:  WXP, Frame 7.0, Acrobat 6.

Now the problem:
I have a recurring problem with one document and its fonts.  Each time I
open the document, I get a message that FrameMaker does not recognize the
font Symbol Bold and will use Times instead.

Action to date:  
I generated a list of references>>>fonts to locate the source of the problem
and I got a *Symbol* font that is bolded but no Symbol Bold font.

What I know to do:   
I know how to turn off this message using the File>>>General>>>Preferences,
however, that doesn't really solve the problem, does it?  I mean the Symbol
font is still in use and it is bolded, but there's no Symbol Bold font
within the document.

Complication:  
This problem is replicated in a series of like documents throughout the
FrameMaker book.  It's embarassing when trying to open a document and this
message pops up every now and then.  In addition, when attempting to print a
book, FrameMaker stops when it incurs this error.

Any thoughts out there?

Thanks

Eduardo




Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
Documentation Consultant
CWO3, U. S. Coast Guard (Retired)

"Heroes:  Ordinary people...doing extraordinary things...in extraordinary
times."

Organization Charts

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good evening from the USA

As we fast approach yet another World Cup (my pick is the USA, naturally), I
wanted to do a personal project involving Organization Charts in FrameMaker
to outline the teams leading up to who will be the eventual winner (okay,
it's a test to see if I can pull this off).

Amazingly, I can't seem to find a software tool native to FrameMaker that
creats these types of charts.  Looked in quite a few spots but it's getting
late (near midnight) and I'm a bit tired.

Can anyone point me in a good direction.  I have MS Org Chart on my system
but would rather stay within the Adobe line (consistency).

Thanks and regards to all.

Go USA!

Eduardo


Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.

"Heroes:  Ordinary people...doing extraordinary things...in extraordinary
times."

Organization Charts

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good evening from the USA

As we fast approach yet another World Cup (my pick is the USA, naturally), I
wanted to do a personal project involving Organization Charts in FrameMaker
to outline the teams leading up to who will be the eventual winner (okay,
it's a test to see if I can pull this off).

Amazingly, I can't seem to find a software tool native to FrameMaker that
creats these types of charts.  Looked in quite a few spots but it's getting
late (near midnight) and I'm a bit tired.

Can anyone point me in a good direction.  I have MS Org Chart on my system
but would rather stay within the Adobe line (consistency).

Thanks and regards to all.

Go USA!

Eduardo


Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.

Heroes:  Ordinary people...doing extraordinary things...in extraordinary
times.

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