Re: [Framers] Save As HTML, character tags, HTML mapping table, and extra line feed/hard returns

[Patrick Edwards]

It isn't, meaning it isn't a technical problem. It's something I have
to address, and that's all I can say about it.

>>> Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com> 6/13/2017 10:00 AM >>>
Why is that a problem?

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 7:41 AM, Patrick Edwards
<edwa...@iodp.tamu.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a question about the HTML mapping table in FrameMaker
reference
> pages and the Save As HTML function. I find that when I Save As
HTML,
> FrameMaker inserts a hard return after every opening and closing tag
> mapped to Character Designer formats. In other words, anything I've
> tagged Superscript or Subscript ends up like this in the HTML
output:
>
> SO
> 4
> 
> 
> 2−
> 
>
> Is there a way to eliminate that extra hard return at Save As HTML
> export?
>
> I know I can search and replace in a text editor, but I'd rather fix
> the problem at source if possible. I know I should be using HTML5
> Publishing output, we're moving that way but we're not there yet.
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[Framers] Save As HTML, character tags, HTML mapping table, and extra line feed/hard returns

[Patrick Edwards]

Hi, 

I have a question about the HTML mapping table in FrameMaker reference
pages and the Save As HTML function. I find that when I Save As HTML,
FrameMaker inserts a hard return after every opening and closing tag
mapped to Character Designer formats. In other words, anything I've
tagged Superscript or Subscript ends up like this in the HTML output: 

SO 
4 
 
 
2− 
 

Is there a way to eliminate that extra hard return at Save As HTML
export? 

I know I can search and replace in a text editor, but I'd rather fix
the problem at source if possible. I know I should be using HTML5
Publishing output, we're moving that way but we're not there yet. 

Thanks for any and all help, 
Patrick 

Patrick H. Edwards 
Production Editor and Web Administrator 
International Ocean Discovery Program 
JOIDES Resolution Science Operator  
Texas A University 
1000 Discovery Drive 
College Station TX  77845-9547 
979 845 1199 
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Re: [Framers] OT: General writing question

[Patrick Edwards]

Like Roger, I'm a big fan of Robin Williams' books too, but this one is 
essential: The Elements of Typographic Style by Robert Bringhurst.


https://www.amazon.com/Elements-Typographic-Style-Version-Anniversary/dp/0881792128/ref=sr_1_1?s=books=UTF8=1485444163=1-1=elements+of+typographic+style+by+robert+bringhurst
 


There's deep information in here about designing for print and screen, why and 
how type works the way it does, etc.  

Some people say that design (read "prettiness") doesn't matter for technical 
documentation. I say (not the first one to say it) that design isn't what it 
looks like, design is how it works, and this book tells you how to design 
things that work well.  

Best, 
Patrick 

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International Ocean Discovery Program 
JOIDES Resolution Science Operator  
Texas A University 
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College Station TX  77845-9547 
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>>> "Tammy Van Boening"  1/26/2017 8:58 AM >>>
All,

I know that this list is for Framemaker-related questions, but that means we
are all writers on this list, so I wanted to post a general writing style
question to the multitudes of gurus that I can reach as a result. . .

Since the cows have come home, I have always, and I mean always, used Times
or another serif font for body text and san serif for headings and I know
that this is considered the "norm" or "standard" for tech. docs. That said,
this new client is also insistent on using sans serif fonts for both
headings and text and it isn't pretty when you're trying to read this
manual.

Does anyone have any hard references/links to sites that you could point me
to that stipulate why this is the norm/standard for writing manuals?  Right
now, my client considers everything that I offered as an explanation as
simply anecdotal and not worthy of consideration.

Yea, I am about to punt. . . .

Thanks,

TVB


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Re: [Framers] Feature comparison list Framemaker 9 vs. FrameMaker 2015

[Patrick Edwards]

Yves, 

>From the Adobe home page, search FrameMaker; on the FrameMaker product page, 
>scroll down to the heading "FrameMaker in action" and click the "See what's 
>new" link; on the next page, click the "Compare older versions" link, and 
>you're taken here: 

http://wwwimages.adobe.com/content/dam/acom/en/products/framemaker/framemaker_2015/pdf/FM_2015_VERSION_COMPARISION.pdf
 

By-feature comparisons begin on page 2. 

Cheers, 
Patrick 

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>>> Yves Barbion  10/10/2016 9:41 AM >>>
Hi group

I'm looking for a feature comparison list between Framemaker 9 and
FrameMaker 2015.

Any ideas?

Thanks

--
Yves Barbion
www.flowtime.be
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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

[Patrick Edwards]

I'm an idiot who didn't read for comprehension, you said you already tried 
that, apologies. 

Patrick 


>>> "Patrick Edwards" <edwa...@iodp.tamu.edu> 5/20/2016 11:20 AM >>>

That sounds like "latin capital letter w with circumflex":

Unicode Character 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER W WITH CIRCUMFLEX' (U+0174)
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/0174/index.htm

Just use the character palette to insert this character using a typeface 
containing this glyph, such as Times New Roman or Arial Unicode MS.


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International Ocean Discovery Program
JOIDES Resolution Science Operator
Texas A University
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>>> "Monique Semp" <monique.s...@earthlink.net> 5/20/2016 11:13 AM >>>
> One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I need to
reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a capital W with
what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look like a left angle
bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been placed over the W. It
is VERY visible.

Do you mean a "W" with a caret? If the equation would still be valid (that
is, "W" is arbitrary, not denoting a specific entity that's normally denoted
by "W"), FrameMaker has symbols for all the vowels-with-carets:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/10.0/Using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7862b-7ff0.html.

I haven't yet found how to add the caret to non-vowels...

-Monique


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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

[Patrick Edwards]

That sounds like "latin capital letter w with circumflex": 

Unicode Character 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER W WITH CIRCUMFLEX' (U+0174) 
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/0174/index.htm 

Just use the character palette to insert this character using a typeface 
containing this glyph, such as Times New Roman or Arial Unicode MS. 


Patrick H. Edwards
Production Editor and Web Administrator
International Ocean Discovery Program
JOIDES Resolution Science Operator 
Texas A University
1000 Discovery Drive
College Station TX  77845-9547
979 845 1199
edwa...@iodp.tamu.edu


>>> "Monique Semp"  5/20/2016 11:13 AM >>>
> One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I need to
reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a capital W with
what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look like a left angle
bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been placed over the W. It
is VERY visible.

Do you mean a "W" with a caret? If the equation would still be valid (that
is, "W" is arbitrary, not denoting a specific entity that's normally denoted
by "W"), FrameMaker has symbols for all the vowels-with-carets:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/10.0/Using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7862b-7ff0.html.

I haven't yet found how to add the caret to non-vowels...

-Monique


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Re: How do you get fractions in FM 12?

[Patrick Edwards]

If you're using a typeface that has these glyphs, you can use the
superscript 0-9, subscript 0-9, and fraction slash to build fractions.
This eliminates some of the pain of changing font sizes and positioning,
and the fractions you build look exactly the same as the thirds,
fourths, and eighths glyphs. 


Email I sent to my department: 

Fractions available as complete glyphs are listed for copying and
pasting. New fractions not present as glyphs can be composed as needed
using the fraction parts. All parts are inserted as Unicode code points
using File  Utilities  Character Palette: 


numerators: superscript zero through superscript nine (Unicode U+2070,
U+00B9, U+00B2, U+00B3, and U+2074 through U+2079) 
denominators: subscript zero through nine (Unicode U+2080 through
U+2089) 
fraction slash (Unicode U+2044) 


Text I added to Reference page in template file: 


The following fraction glyphs can be inserted using an Alt+numpad key
combination: ¼ Alt0188; ½ Alt0189; ¾ Alt0190 
The following fraction glyphs can be inserted via the character palette
or by copying and pasting: ⅓ ⅔ ⅛ ⅜ ⅝ ⅞ 
The following fractions are composed of parts; insert via copying and
pasting: ¹⁄₁₆ ³⁄₁₆ ⁵⁄₁₆ ⁷⁄₁₆ ⁹⁄₁₆ ¹¹⁄₁₆ ¹³⁄₁₆ ¹⁵⁄₁₆  
The following fraction parts can be used to compose new fractions;
insert by copying and pasting: ¹²³⁴⁵⁶⁷⁸⁹⁰ ⁄ ⁄ ⁄ ₁₂₃₄₅₆₇₈₉₀ 


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 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com 12/9/2014 10:12 AM 
I have text that expresses one-and-one-half as 1-1/2, which could be
interpreted as 1-to-1/2. I would like to be able to show the fraction
without the hyphen. 




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Inspection Business
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