Re: FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem
As I recall, it happens if you adjust tags on the rule *and *have the Paragraph Designer set to showing anything other than the Basic properties. Philip On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Writer generic...@yahoo.ca wrote: This was discussed before, but I can't find the thread. The upshot was that if you have the Paragraph Designer open, but you adjust the tabs on the ruler, rather than within the Paragraph Designer, it would cause the PD to freeze. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker 9 Paragraph Designer Problem
As I recall, it happens if you adjust tags on the rule *and *have the Paragraph Designer set to showing anything other than the Basic properties. Philip On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Writer wrote: > This was discussed before, but I can't find the thread. The upshot was that > if you have the Paragraph Designer open, but you adjust the tabs on the > ruler, rather than within the Paragraph Designer, it would cause the PD to > freeze. > >
Landscape pages in PDF
Hi Folks, I have one chapter in a book which uses landscape pages instead of portrait. I can make a PDF of the individual chapter okay, but when I make a PDF of the book the landscape pages are chopped off. (This happens if I create landscape master pages, or if I create a brand new document using the default landscape layout.) On the Adobe forums, someone else has a similar problem: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2794221?tstart=0 One suggestion was to go into the Acrobat Distiller Preferences and change the Rotate Pages Setting to Individual but that doesn't solve it. Has anyone found a solution? I'm using: - FrameMaker 9.0p255 (the 9.0.4 patch) - Acrobat Distiller 9.0 - Windows VIsta for Business ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Landscape pages in PDF
Hi Folks, I have one chapter in a book which uses landscape pages instead of portrait. I can make a PDF of the individual chapter okay, but when I make a PDF of the book the landscape pages are chopped off. (This happens if I create landscape master pages, or if I create a brand new document using the default landscape layout.) On the Adobe forums, someone else has a similar problem: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2794221?tstart=0 One suggestion was to go into the Acrobat Distiller Preferences and change the Rotate Pages Setting to "Individual" but that doesn't solve it. Has anyone found a solution? I'm using: - FrameMaker 9.0p255 (the 9.0.4 patch) - Acrobat Distiller 9.0 - Windows VIsta for Business
Solved: Empty pages not deleting and The new column layout in docname seems to overlap other objects
Aha! I just figured something out. In case anyone else encounters this ... I was having problems with empty pages not being removed at the end of my document when I changed which conditional tags were visible. I ran through the usual suspects (e.g. checking what page number the next document in the book was set to) but nothing worked. Then I read an Adobe knowledge base article ( http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/314/314928.html) that recommended reapplying the left/right master pages. But when I chose Format Page Layout Master Page Layout to do that, I got the puzzling warning The new column layout in doucment.fm seems to overlap other objects on some body pages. Are you sure you want to do this? I wasn't sure what that was trying to tell me, since I only have one column and a simple page layout. What was overlapping what? But eventually I got the idea of putting the insertion point outside the text frame (by clicking in the margin) and doing CTRL+A to select all. And lo and behold, there were some empty graphic objects scattered around on various pages. When I deleted them, everything worked again. My empty pages are now deleted as specified in Format Page Layout Pagination Before Saving and Printing. One more small step to world domination through FrameMaker. Hope this helps someone else, Philip. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Solved: Empty pages not deleting and "The new column layout in seems to overlap other objects"
Aha! I just figured something out. In case anyone else encounters this ... I was having problems with empty pages not being removed at the end of my document when I changed which conditional tags were visible. I ran through the usual suspects (e.g. checking what page number the next document in the book was set to) but nothing worked. Then I read an Adobe knowledge base article ( http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/314/314928.html) that recommended reapplying the left/right master pages. But when I chose Format > Page Layout > Master Page Layout to do that, I got the puzzling warning "The new column layout in doucment.fm seems to overlap other objects on some body pages. Are you sure you want to do this?" I wasn't sure what that was trying to tell me, since I only have one column and a simple page layout. What was overlapping what? But eventually I got the idea of putting the insertion point outside the text frame (by clicking in the margin) and doing CTRL+A to select all. And lo and behold, there were some empty graphic objects scattered around on various pages. When I deleted them, everything worked again. My empty pages are now deleted as specified in Format > Page Layout > Pagination > Before Saving and Printing. One more small step to world domination through FrameMaker. Hope this helps someone else, Philip.
Re: Not seeing the right RED in PDFs
I'm just guessing, but it might be related to the GetLibraryColorRGBFromCMYK setting in FrameMaker's INI file. This knowledge base article has more information about it: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/324/324220.html Good luck, Philip. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Bill Rost bill.r...@retalix.com wrote: Working with FM 7.2 and Distiller 8 Our company uses a deep-red corporate color, and I've been using a custom joboptions file for years to produce PDFs that have the right RED. The color has always appeared in PDFs in FM graphics (such as lines above paragraphs) consistent, and deep red. I recently reloaded FM, to cure issues not having to do with color, and my PDFs are now displaying a brilliant red-orange where the deep red used to appear. I'm assuming that the issue is with the joboptions, but I could be wrong! Here's what I've tried: - Replaced the Distiller joboptions files with an earlier version. (No difference) - On the Print Document window with selected as the printer, I've gone to the Print Setup Setup Properties Layout Advanced and tried all of the ICM options. (No differences) Something I find curious is that there are two places to set the joboption in Print Document window. One is in Printer: Setup options and the other is in PDF Setup. The custom joboptions were visible in one of these and not visible in the other, so I added the joboption where they were missing. But, nothing seems to produce the right RED. All hints and ideas are readily accepted. Thanks, Bill Rost ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as philip.shar...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/philip.sharman%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Not seeing the right RED in PDFs
I'm just guessing, but it might be related to the GetLibraryColorRGBFromCMYK setting in FrameMaker's INI file. This knowledge base article has more information about it: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/324/324220.html Good luck, Philip. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Bill Rost wrote: > Working with FM 7.2 and Distiller 8 > > > > Our company uses a deep-red corporate color, and I've been using a > custom joboptions file for years to produce PDFs that have the right > RED. The color has always appeared in PDFs in FM graphics (such as lines > above paragraphs) consistent, and deep red. > > > > I recently reloaded FM, to cure issues not having to do with color, and > my PDFs are now displaying a brilliant red-orange where the deep red > used to appear. I'm assuming that the issue is with the joboptions, but > I could be wrong! > > > > Here's what I've tried: > > - Replaced the Distiller joboptions files with an earlier > version. (No difference) > > - On the Print Document window with selected as the printer, > I've gone to the Print Setup > Setup > Properties > Layout > Advanced > > and tried all of the ICM options. (No differences) > > > > Something I find curious is that there are two places to set the > joboption in Print Document window. One is in Printer: Setup options and > the other is in PDF Setup. The custom joboptions were visible in one of > these and not visible in the other, so I added the joboption where they > were missing. But, nothing seems to produce the right RED. > > > > All hints and ideas are readily accepted. > > > > Thanks, Bill Rost > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as philip.sharman at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/philip.sharman%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Re: Creating a compare from one book to another
Hi Paul, Sadly, I don't know of a faster way to compare two books But it does sound as though you don't need to fix the cross-references. If they aren't going to actually be used, who cares if they are broken? The new book is only being used to compare old and new, so I would leave them as they are. Cheers, Philip. On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:47 AM, jopakent jopak...@comcast.net wrote: I've done this a bunch of times in years past, and it occurs to me that mebbee I'm making this harder than it has to be. Using FM7.2 on Win XP, I need to create a PDF that indicates all insertions and deletions between the current draft and the released version of a manual. It has about 20 chapters and a dozen or so appendices, and a pretty fair number of illustrations. What I've been doing is opening up the old book and the new book and then using the file compare utility. That produces a slew of CMP files (for example Intro.fm produces IntroCMP.fm). Once I've created the CMP files I, move them to another directory that I've set up to mirror the structure of the existing book. Nothing too intricate, just a text folder and an image folder. The resulting book seems to work pretty well for producing a PDF. Before I produce the PDF, I generally look through and examine each of the insertions and deletions for validity. It seems like a fair number of what FM detects as changes aren't really changes, maybe a file name changed, or maybe it's moved location by a paragraph, or I dunno, sometimes it seems pretty random. At any rate, I remove the formatting form the changes that aren't really changes. So, for the questions. Because I've got a new book formed from files with different names from the old book, all of the cross references are broken. This brings up a couple questions: 1st, is there a simple tweak I could make to my workflow that would keep all of the x-refs from breaking? 2nd, does it matter if the x-refs are broken (see explanation below)? 3rd, if it does matter, what's the best way to fix them? I've been using search to find them, and then clicking away until I've repaired each one. I got through chapters the other night and then stopped to think about it a bit. Seems way too labor intensive doing it by hand. I'm guessing that I could probably save all the files to MIF and then do some search and replaces to speed up the process. I'm wondering if it's even necessary to fix the broken x-refs. All of the broken cross references still display properly. I know if I made substantive changes, they wouldn't be indicated properly, but the purpose of this book is not to move forward and be released. It's just created so that reviewers can be pointed to what's new in the current revision. I'll be making any changes to the actual manual. Am I missing something important here? Thanks in advance for those with the patience to offer insights. J. Paul Kent 206-383-0539 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Creating a compare from one book to another
Hi Paul, Sadly, I don't know of a faster way to compare two books But it does sound as though you don't need to fix the cross-references. If they aren't going to actually be used, who cares if they are broken? The new book is only being used to compare old and new, so I would leave them as they are. Cheers, Philip. On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:47 AM, jopakent wrote: > I've done this a bunch of times in years past, and it occurs to me that > mebbee I'm making this harder than it has to be. > > Using FM7.2 on Win XP, I need to create a PDF that indicates all insertions > and deletions between the current draft and the released version of a > manual. It has about 20 chapters and a dozen or so appendices, and a pretty > fair number of illustrations. > > What I've been doing is opening up the old book and the new book and then > using the file compare utility. That produces a slew of "CMP" files (for > example Intro.fm produces IntroCMP.fm). > > Once I've created the CMP files I, move them to another directory that I've > set up to mirror the structure of the existing book. Nothing too intricate, > just a text folder and an image folder. > > The resulting book seems to work pretty well for producing a PDF. Before I > produce the PDF, I generally look through and examine each of the > insertions > and deletions for "validity." It seems like a fair number of what FM > detects > as changes aren't really changes, maybe a file name changed, or maybe it's > moved location by a paragraph, or I dunno, sometimes it seems pretty > random. > At any rate, I remove the formatting form the changes that aren't really > changes. > > > So, for the questions. > > Because I've got a new book formed from files with different names from the > old book, all of the cross references are broken. This brings up a couple > questions: > > 1st, is there a simple tweak I could make to my workflow that would keep > all > of the x-refs from breaking? > > 2nd, does it matter if the x-refs are broken (see explanation below)? > > 3rd, if it does matter, what's the best way to fix them? I've been using > search to find them, and then clicking away until I've repaired each one. > > I got through chapters the other night and then stopped to think about it a > bit. Seems way too labor intensive doing it by hand. I'm guessing that I > could probably save all the files to MIF and then do some search and > replaces to speed up the process. > > I'm wondering if it's even necessary to fix the broken x-refs. All of the > broken cross references still display properly. I know if I made > substantive > changes, they wouldn't be indicated properly, but the purpose of this book > is not to move forward and be released. It's just created so that reviewers > can be pointed to what's new in the current revision. I'll be making any > changes to the actual manual. Am I missing something important here? > > Thanks in advance for those with the patience to offer insights. > > J. Paul Kent > > 206-383-0539 > > >
9.0.3 update appears to be the 9.0.2p250 update
FYI: There is what purports to be a 9.0.3 update for FrameMaker from http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4587 But when I run it, it appears to be the 9.0.2p250 installer. (If you have the p250 patch applied, it aks if you want to uninstall it. If you run do, and then run it again, it reinstalls the p250 patch.) I've filed a bug report to Adobe. No 9.0.3 update shows up when I choose Help Updates from inside FrameMaker. Maybe I should be patient and wait. Philip. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
9.0.3 update appears to be the 9.0.2p250 update
FYI: There is what purports to be a 9.0.3 update for FrameMaker from http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4587 But when I run it, it appears to be the 9.0.2p250 installer. (If you have the p250 patch applied, it aks if you want to uninstall it. If you run do, and then run it again, it reinstalls the p250 patch.) I've filed a bug report to Adobe. No 9.0.3 update shows up when I choose Help > Updates from inside FrameMaker. Maybe I should be patient and wait. Philip.
Re: Cost of a basic FrameScript script
In case anyone is having problems finding it, the URL for the FrameScript group on Yahoo is http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framescript-users/ Philip. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Help: File gone berserk
Wow, this is very strange. I've been running into this same issue lately, so I did a quick test and that hidden table format is well and truly hidden, even from MIF which really surprised me. If I export the file to MIF and open it with a text editor, there is no mention of the missing font anywhere in the MIF file. And yet FrameMaker insists it is there, every time I open the FM file. But the good news is that exporting to MIF and then opening the MIF from inside FrameMaker finally kills off the zombie table definition. (So does unchecking Remember Missing Font Names in the preferences, but that might change more than you want.) This is using FrameMaker 7.2. I don't know if the behavior is any different in later versions. To make simpler, I think we should all stick to Courier New :-) Philip. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com wrote: Concerning missing fonts messages even though you have tried all the tricks to clear that font out of your document... There's a known issue with FrameMaker -- Maker stores font information with table formats. I think this is how it goes... If you copy/paste a table into your document, and it's not identical to an existing table format in your document, Maker creates a new table format under the covers, and stores font information with it. If you copied from a document that uses font X, then your document will now expect to have font X whenever it opens. The new table format can be created such that you have no direct access to the format definition. That means that you can't change the font definition. These table formats aren't even exposed to the API, which means you can't get a plugin or FrameScript tool to fix the problem -- believe me, if it was exposed to the API there would be fixes available. The only fix I know of is to open the file in MIF and search/replace the font name. I think you need to replace all variants of the font name, but I'm not sure... I'm kind of font-stupid, and I'm not sure what MIF does with incomplete font declarations. I have always removed all variants of the name... I suppose another thing to try would be to copy/paste all the content from your document into a new file built with a clean template. This would assume that the offending font is never included in any of the visible content, and you have no format overrides. I haven't tried this -- it just occurs to me now. Who knows... I could work. I really wish Adobe would expose this information in the API. cud ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Help: File gone berserk
Wow, this is very strange. I've been running into this same issue lately, so I did a quick test and that hidden table format is well and truly hidden, even from MIF which really surprised me. If I export the file to MIF and open it with a text editor, there is no mention of the missing font anywhere in the MIF file. And yet FrameMaker insists it is there, every time I open the FM file. But the good news is that exporting to MIF and then opening the MIF from inside FrameMaker finally kills off the zombie table definition. (So does unchecking "Remember Missing Font Names" in the preferences, but that might change more than you want.) This is using FrameMaker 7.2. I don't know if the behavior is any different in later versions. To make simpler, I think we should all stick to Courier New :-) Philip. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Chris Despopoulos < despopoulos_chriss at yahoo.com> wrote: > Concerning missing fonts messages even though you have tried all the tricks > to clear that font out of your document... > > There's a known issue with FrameMaker -- Maker stores font information with > table formats. I think this is how it goes... If you copy/paste a table into > your document, and it's not identical to an existing table format in your > document, Maker creates a new table format under the covers, and stores font > information with it. If you copied from a document that uses font X, then > your document will now expect to have font X whenever it opens. > > The new table format can be created such that you have no direct access to > the format definition. That means that you can't change the font > definition. These table formats aren't even exposed to the API, which means > you can't get a plugin or FrameScript tool to fix the problem -- believe me, > if it was exposed to the API there would be fixes available. > > The only fix I know of is to open the file in MIF and search/replace the > font name. I think you need to replace all variants of the font name, but > I'm not sure... I'm kind of font-stupid, and I'm not sure what MIF does > with incomplete font declarations. I have always removed all variants of > the name... > > I suppose another thing to try would be to copy/paste all the content from > your document into a new file built with a clean template. This would > assume that the offending font is never included in any of the visible > content, and you have no format overrides. I haven't tried this -- it just > occurs to me now. Who knows... I could work. > > I really wish Adobe would expose this information in the API. > > cud > > >
Cost of a basic FrameScript script
In case anyone is having problems finding it, the URL for the FrameScript group on Yahoo is http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framescript-users/ Philip.