Re: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet
Hi Gillian, You cannot use a graphic in the automatic numbering of your list paragraph format. Pitty. However, there are two other options: o As others have suggested: Create a special list font with only a single character at the position of e.g. "n". This character should be your custom bullet. Then create a character format with this font. In your list paragraph format use n as your Autonumber and set your character format. o On the reference pages create a graphic frame with your bullet. On the body pages create a paragraph format, e.g. bullet which uses this graphic frame as frame above. Set the Space below to e.g. -30 pt. Set the Next Pgf Tag to your list paragraph. In the list paragraph format set the space above to the same negative value, e.g. -30 pt. Give it a left indent, so that it starts at the right of the bullet. Now your second paragraph is pulled up to be to the right of the bullet paragraph. You will have to play with the space above/below values to get the two paragraphs aligned. And when you enter text in the list paragraph the text will be invisible first. The text will be printed or saved to PDF without any problem. To get it displayed on your monitor you must press CTRL+L. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of loui...@mchsi.com Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:49 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet Hi Gillian, I don't have Frame available, so if I remember correctly (fingers crossed), here's how you can make a custom bullet: Draw a Graphic Frame on the Reference Pages and if the art file size is small enough, I'd copy, not reference it into the frame. Name the Graphic Frame, for example, Custom Bullet. Now here's the part I can't quite remember: in the Para Designer, I *think* your new Graphic Frame, Custom Bullet, will be in the Building Block list. Bring up the current bullet paragraph format, delete the bullet Building Block and put Custom Bullet in its place. Be sure to click on it from the Building Block list, don't type it in. If you know they will never want the old bullet, you can do an Update All and not keep any overrides. If you're not sure, you can create a new para format with the Custom Bullet, and retag paragraphs as needed. Then you'll have to play around with the placement/size of the art in the Graphic Frame, and tabs. Hope this helps - Louise - Original Message - From: gill6...@comcast.net To: "framers" Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:12:07 PM Subject: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet Frame Gurus! Using: Unstructured Frame TCS 2017 Our marketing department wants us to use a customized bullet. It's more of a graphic, because it's not in the character palette. They use InDesign so they inserted it as a graphic. They want us to use it as a bullet in all of our bullet lists. So how do I make a customized bullet list with a customzed graphic? The Character Designer does not allow for inserting a graphic to create a bullet. Any ideas? Thanks, Gillian This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet
Thanks for the suggestions! -Gillian - Original Message - From: "Alison Craig" To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:38:33 PM Subject: Re: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet I agree. If Mktg wants something that specialized, they need to provide the bullet as a scalable font. Murphy's Law: The more you contort Frame - and yourself - to comply with a weird request, the more chance there is of a disaster happening right before you have to publish! Alison Craig Technical Documentation Specialist BK Ultrasound | acr...@bkultrasound.com From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:35 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet I'd tell marketing my tool can't do that so if they want custom bullets they need to give me a font. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com<mailto:listad...@frameusers.com> ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet
I agree. If Mktg wants something that specialized, they need to provide the bullet as a scalable font. Murphy's Law: The more you contort Frame - and yourself - to comply with a weird request, the more chance there is of a disaster happening right before you have to publish! Alison Craig Technical Documentation Specialist BK Ultrasound | acr...@bkultrasound.com From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:35 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet I'd tell marketing my tool can't do that so if they want custom bullets they need to give me a font. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com<mailto:listad...@frameusers.com> ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet
Hi Gillian, I don't have Frame available, so if I remember correctly (fingers crossed), here's how you can make a custom bullet: Draw a Graphic Frame on the Reference Pages and if the art file size is small enough, I'd copy, not reference it into the frame. Name the Graphic Frame, for example, Custom Bullet. Now here's the part I can't quite remember: in the Para Designer, I *think* your new Graphic Frame, Custom Bullet, will be in the Building Block list. Bring up the current bullet paragraph format, delete the bullet Building Block and put Custom Bullet in its place. Be sure to click on it from the Building Block list, don't type it in. If you know they will never want the old bullet, you can do an Update All and not keep any overrides. If you're not sure, you can create a new para format with the Custom Bullet, and retag paragraphs as needed. Then you'll have to play around with the placement/size of the art in the Graphic Frame, and tabs. Hope this helps - Louise - Original Message - From: gill6...@comcast.net To: "framers" Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:12:07 PM Subject: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet Frame Gurus! Using: Unstructured Frame TCS 2017 Our marketing department wants us to use a customized bullet. It's more of a graphic, because it's not in the character palette. They use InDesign so they inserted it as a graphic. They want us to use it as a bullet in all of our bullet lists. So how do I make a customized bullet list with a customzed graphic? The Character Designer does not allow for inserting a graphic to create a bullet. Any ideas? Thanks, Gillian ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet
I'd tell marketing my tool can't do that so if they want custom bullets they need to give me a font. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet
Ah, marketing. What would we do without them. The short answer is, you can't. At least not using the Character Designer and Paragraph Designer. A long while back Chris Despopoulos created a plugin called RefIcons, which sort of did what you want. It paired an anchored graphic with a paragraph tag. I think you had to use the palette each time to insert the new line. Checking his site, though, reveals that it's no longer available, but you might still ask him if it's available and works with whatever version of Frame you have. Or you can follow Robert's suggestion, which is probably simpler. On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:12 PM, wrote: > Frame Gurus! > > Using: > Unstructured Frame > TCS 2017 > > Our marketing department wants us to use a customized bullet. It's more of > a graphic, because it's not in the character palette. They use InDesign so > they inserted it as a graphic. They want us to use it as a bullet in all of > our bullet lists. > > So how do I make a customized bullet list with a customzed graphic? The > Character Designer does not allow for inserting a graphic to create a > bullet. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Gillian > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Custom graphic as bullet
You could make it into a font using FontForge or the like. What a great way to increase shareholder value. On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:12 PM, wrote: > Frame Gurus! > > Using: > Unstructured Frame > TCS 2017 > > Our marketing department wants us to use a customized bullet. It's more of a > graphic, because it's not in the character palette. They use InDesign so they > inserted it as a graphic. They want us to use it as a bullet in all of our > bullet lists. > > So how do I make a customized bullet list with a customzed graphic? The > Character Designer does not allow for inserting a graphic to create a bullet. > Any ideas? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Custom graphic as bullet
Frame Gurus! Using: Unstructured Frame TCS 2017 Our marketing department wants us to use a customized bullet. It's more of a graphic, because it's not in the character palette. They use InDesign so they inserted it as a graphic. They want us to use it as a bullet in all of our bullet lists. So how do I make a customized bullet list with a customzed graphic? The Character Designer does not allow for inserting a graphic to create a bullet. Any ideas? Thanks, Gillian ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
