Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Doug]

I understand that concern, but I see it as a minor inconvenience, once that
can be remedied via the use of the mouse's scroll wheel, by zooming back
out, or by clicking the down arrow on the scroll bar/dragging the scroll
bar down.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 5:27 AM Klaus Daube  wrote:

> On 12 Dec 2019 at 11:29, Doug wrote:
>
> > Unclickable cross references
> > FRMAKER-5971 
>
> Doug, think about this scenario:
> - You have such a cross reference at the top of a page and the target is
> far down.
> - You do not see the whole page due to the following
>   looking into the PDF with a tablet
>   having zoomed in to see a detail in a picture just before the cross ref
>   ...
> => You will be frustrated not to be able to click.
>
> Klaus
>
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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Doug,

Just add a comment in the Adobe Tracker. That's fine.
I also notice issues and cannot reproduce them next
time. 
Possibly there was something special with your test file.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

5570 seems to no longer be an issue.  Strange.  I can't reproduce it either.

I don't see a way to change the status of the request, however.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 2:40 AM Reng Winfried 
wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> I cannot reproduce issue 5570.
> When I save the document and then delete a condition tag and try to 
> close the document, I get a message whether I want to save. 
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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Doug]

5570 seems to no longer be an issue.  Strange.  I can't reproduce it either.

I don't see a way to change the status of the request, however.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 2:40 AM Reng Winfried 
wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> I cannot reproduce issue 5570.
> When I save the document and then delete a
> condition tag and try to close the document,
> I get a message whether I want to save.
>
>
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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Klaus Daube]

On 12 Dec 2019 at 11:29, Doug wrote:

> Unclickable cross references
> FRMAKER-5971 

Doug, think about this scenario:
- You have such a cross reference at the top of a page and the target is far 
down.
- You do not see the whole page due to the following
  looking into the PDF with a tablet
  having zoomed in to see a detail in a picture just before the cross ref
  ...
=> You will be frustrated not to be able to click.

Klaus

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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Doug,

I cannot reproduce issue 5570.
When I save the document and then delete a 
condition tag and try to close the document,
I get a message whether I want to save.

5971
Is ist an issue, if your cross-reference is clickable?
When it looks the same as the text before and after
the reference, the reader does not notice that this
reference is clickable.
Still I see that this request pops up from time to time.

6739
I remember that I had experienced something similar
some time ago. However, I cannot remember exactly.
And I did not test this now.

Best regards

Winfried

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From: Framers 
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Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 5:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

I've submitted a Feature Request for this:FRMAKER-7643
<https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-7643>

I've three others as well, all with zero votes (sigh).  Please consider voting 
those those as well, everyone.

FRMAKER-6739 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-6739>
FRMAKER-5971 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5971>
FRMAKER-5570 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5570>

Thanks!

Doug

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 9:58 AM Reng Winfried 
wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> I am not sure which object properties you want to show.
>
> When your object properties pod is open, you see the properties of 
> inserted graphics.
>
> When you click Insert | Anchored Frame, this opens the Anchored Frame 
> pod.
> When you now click on any anchored frame, the pod shows immediately 
> the dimensions and the anchoring.
>
> However, you will not get the properties of text frames or of 
> FrameMaker graphics objects (lines, rectangles, etc.).
> Create a new request in the Adobe Tracker:
> https://tracker.adobe.com/
> Post the issue number, and I will vote for it.
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  carecom-solutions@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Doug
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:48 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame Properties
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> Part of the problem is that both text frames and graphic frames use 
> modal Properties dialogs.  This means I'm not able to save a workspace 
> while they are on-screen.  This is unlike the images themselves, and 
> anchored frames, which use modeless dialogs; I can leave those on-screen all 
> the time.
>
> I guess what I need is a way to display a modal dialog in a modeless 
> manner.  It seems to be such an arbitrary distinction, text/graphic 
> frames vs. image/anchored frames.
>
> In this respect Framemaker seems to be quite behind the standard set 
> by other Adobe apps, like InDesign, Illustrator, etc.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:54 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> > You can configure a personal workspace that will have the Object 
> > Properties pod viewable at all times, if that's what you mean.
> >
> > Click Graphics > Object Properties, make sure it's open on the 
> > screen, then save as a workspace.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:58 AM Doug  wrote:
> >
> > > I want the Properties to display whenever I select a frame.  I 
> > > don't want to press Shft+F6 every time.  Ideally I'd like a dialog 
> > > to always be on
> > the
> > > screen, passively displaying the properties as I select each frame.
> > >
> > > Is there a mod/script/etc for this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Doug 
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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Lin Sims]

Re your request to be able to make an xref unclickable (FRMAKER-5971): I
really don't think that's possible (but I am not a software engineer).

What you can do for now, however, is create an xref format that uses the
 building block. That will make it look like the rest of
the surrounding text. Yes, it'll still be clickable in the PDF, but it
won't visibliy jump out at the user that this is a link rather than just
text unless they pass their cursor over it.

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 11:30 AM Doug  wrote:

> I've submitted a Feature Request for this:FRMAKER-7643
> <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-7643>
>
> I've three others as well, all with zero votes (sigh).  Please consider
> voting those those as well, everyone.
>
> FRMAKER-6739 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-6739>
> FRMAKER-5971 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5971>
> FRMAKER-5570 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5570>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Doug
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 9:58 AM Reng Winfried <
> w.r...@carecom-solutions.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> > I am not sure which object properties you want to show.
> >
> > When your object properties pod is open, you see the
> > properties of inserted graphics.
> >
> > When you click Insert | Anchored Frame, this opens the
> > Anchored Frame pod.
> > When you now click on any anchored frame, the pod
> > shows immediately the dimensions and the anchoring.
> >
> > However, you will not get the properties of text frames
> > or of FrameMaker graphics objects (lines, rectangles, etc.).
> > Create a new request in the Adobe Tracker:
> > https://tracker.adobe.com/
> > Post the issue number, and I will vote for it.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Winfried
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers  > carecom-solutions@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Doug
> > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:48 PM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <
> > framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame Properties
> >
> > Thanks for the response.
> >
> > Part of the problem is that both text frames and graphic frames use modal
> > Properties dialogs.  This means I'm not able to save a workspace while
> they
> > are on-screen.  This is unlike the images themselves, and anchored
> frames,
> > which use modeless dialogs; I can leave those on-screen all the time.
> >
> > I guess what I need is a way to display a modal dialog in a modeless
> > manner.  It seems to be such an arbitrary distinction, text/graphic
> frames
> > vs. image/anchored frames.
> >
> > In this respect Framemaker seems to be quite behind the standard set by
> > other Adobe apps, like InDesign, Illustrator, etc.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:54 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
> >
> > > You can configure a personal workspace that will have the Object
> > > Properties pod viewable at all times, if that's what you mean.
> > >
> > > Click Graphics > Object Properties, make sure it's open on the screen,
> > > then save as a workspace.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:58 AM Doug  wrote:
> > >
> > > > I want the Properties to display whenever I select a frame.  I don't
> > > > want to press Shft+F6 every time.  Ideally I'd like a dialog to
> > > > always be on
> > > the
> > > > screen, passively displaying the properties as I select each frame.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a mod/script/etc for this?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Doug
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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Doug]

I've submitted a Feature Request for this:FRMAKER-7643
<https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-7643>

I've three others as well, all with zero votes (sigh).  Please consider
voting those those as well, everyone.

FRMAKER-6739 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-6739>
FRMAKER-5971 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5971>
FRMAKER-5570 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5570>

Thanks!

Doug

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 9:58 AM Reng Winfried 
wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> I am not sure which object properties you want to show.
>
> When your object properties pod is open, you see the
> properties of inserted graphics.
>
> When you click Insert | Anchored Frame, this opens the
> Anchored Frame pod.
> When you now click on any anchored frame, the pod
> shows immediately the dimensions and the anchoring.
>
> However, you will not get the properties of text frames
> or of FrameMaker graphics objects (lines, rectangles, etc.).
> Create a new request in the Adobe Tracker:
> https://tracker.adobe.com/
> Post the issue number, and I will vote for it.
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  carecom-solutions@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Doug
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:48 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame Properties
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> Part of the problem is that both text frames and graphic frames use modal
> Properties dialogs.  This means I'm not able to save a workspace while they
> are on-screen.  This is unlike the images themselves, and anchored frames,
> which use modeless dialogs; I can leave those on-screen all the time.
>
> I guess what I need is a way to display a modal dialog in a modeless
> manner.  It seems to be such an arbitrary distinction, text/graphic frames
> vs. image/anchored frames.
>
> In this respect Framemaker seems to be quite behind the standard set by
> other Adobe apps, like InDesign, Illustrator, etc.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:54 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> > You can configure a personal workspace that will have the Object
> > Properties pod viewable at all times, if that's what you mean.
> >
> > Click Graphics > Object Properties, make sure it's open on the screen,
> > then save as a workspace.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:58 AM Doug  wrote:
> >
> > > I want the Properties to display whenever I select a frame.  I don't
> > > want to press Shft+F6 every time.  Ideally I'd like a dialog to
> > > always be on
> > the
> > > screen, passively displaying the properties as I select each frame.
> > >
> > > Is there a mod/script/etc for this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Doug
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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Reng Winfried]

Hi Doug,

I am not sure which object properties you want to show.

When your object properties pod is open, you see the 
properties of inserted graphics.

When you click Insert | Anchored Frame, this opens the 
Anchored Frame pod.
When you now click on any anchored frame, the pod 
shows immediately the dimensions and the anchoring.

However, you will not get the properties of text frames
or of FrameMaker graphics objects (lines, rectangles, etc.).
Create a new request in the Adobe Tracker:
https://tracker.adobe.com/
Post the issue number, and I will vote for it.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Doug
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:48 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

Thanks for the response.

Part of the problem is that both text frames and graphic frames use modal 
Properties dialogs.  This means I'm not able to save a workspace while they are 
on-screen.  This is unlike the images themselves, and anchored frames, which 
use modeless dialogs; I can leave those on-screen all the time.

I guess what I need is a way to display a modal dialog in a modeless manner.  
It seems to be such an arbitrary distinction, text/graphic frames vs. 
image/anchored frames.

In this respect Framemaker seems to be quite behind the standard set by other 
Adobe apps, like InDesign, Illustrator, etc.


On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:54 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> You can configure a personal workspace that will have the Object 
> Properties pod viewable at all times, if that's what you mean.
>
> Click Graphics > Object Properties, make sure it's open on the screen, 
> then save as a workspace.
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:58 AM Doug  wrote:
>
> > I want the Properties to display whenever I select a frame.  I don't 
> > want to press Shft+F6 every time.  Ideally I'd like a dialog to 
> > always be on
> the
> > screen, passively displaying the properties as I select each frame.
> >
> > Is there a mod/script/etc for this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Doug 
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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Doug]

Thanks for the response.

Part of the problem is that both text frames and graphic frames use modal
Properties dialogs.  This means I'm not able to save a workspace while they
are on-screen.  This is unlike the images themselves, and anchored frames,
which use modeless dialogs; I can leave those on-screen all the time.

I guess what I need is a way to display a modal dialog in a modeless
manner.  It seems to be such an arbitrary distinction, text/graphic frames
vs. image/anchored frames.

In this respect Framemaker seems to be quite behind the standard set by
other Adobe apps, like InDesign, Illustrator, etc.


On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:54 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> You can configure a personal workspace that will have the Object Properties
> pod viewable at all times, if that's what you mean.
>
> Click Graphics > Object Properties, make sure it's open on the screen, then
> save as a workspace.
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:58 AM Doug  wrote:
>
> > I want the Properties to display whenever I select a frame.  I don't want
> > to press Shft+F6 every time.  Ideally I'd like a dialog to always be on
> the
> > screen, passively displaying the properties as I select each frame.
> >
> > Is there a mod/script/etc for this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Doug
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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Lin Sims]

You can configure a personal workspace that will have the Object Properties
pod viewable at all times, if that's what you mean.

Click Graphics > Object Properties, make sure it's open on the screen, then
save as a workspace.

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:58 AM Doug  wrote:

> I want the Properties to display whenever I select a frame.  I don't want
> to press Shft+F6 every time.  Ideally I'd like a dialog to always be on the
> screen, passively displaying the properties as I select each frame.
>
> Is there a mod/script/etc for this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug
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[Framers] Frame Properties

[Doug]

I want the Properties to display whenever I select a frame.  I don't want
to press Shft+F6 every time.  Ideally I'd like a dialog to always be on the
screen, passively displaying the properties as I select each frame.

Is there a mod/script/etc for this?

Thanks,

Doug
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