Re: [Framers] : How Install FrameMaker Update Patches on Old FM Versions?

2019-12-18 Thread Kevin Ryan 
Robert, thanks a major bunch for the suggestion to run the patch exe files in 
XP compatibility mode! That worked and I now have the patches I need on my new 
PC. I wanted the FM patches to be up to date because I am still trying to get 
mif2go to work on the new PC.

My management does not think kindly of PDFs books. It thinks a hierarchical set 
of interlinked topic pages is always the way to go.  It was all I could do to 
establish a routine of including attached PDFs (created from Confluence space 
export) to the front summary page of my online Confluence guides. Confluence's 
native PDF generator is good for interlinks and bookmarks, but tends to be 
pretty ugly and to do silly things like vanish random images, break pages 
wrong, and resize (screw up) PDF sub-heading font sizes automatically under the 
misapprehension that it knows what it's doing. Our long-term customers probably 
sensed the quality loss when we shifted from FM-generated to 
Confluence-generated PDFs. If our customers start complaining about PDF quality 
I might be able to justify the Scroll PDF Exporter option you describe (and 
thanks for the "separate instance" tip, which I'll keep in mind).

"How am I using MIf2Go to migrate  to Confluence":  A few years back I pored 
over posts to this list from Jeremy and you about this task, and I benefited 
from your suggestions then and from the beta version of Mif2go Jeremy produced 
that has Confluence-related flags in its INI file. I have a bare-bones function 
that Mif2go serves:  Take our image-laden, multi-character-font-infested 
FrameMaker files, strip their images, and map about a dozen different colors 
and fonts of FM character formats to Confluence's simpler/more minimalistic 
Bold/Not Bold character formatting. Also to map FM headings to an analogous 
hierarchy of HTML headings. I've had an INI file I made just for this "FM to 
Confluence" purpose and it's gratifying for me just to be able to paste the 
Mif2Go html output into the "<>" Source Editor of individual Confluence pages 
within my online guides.  Then I update the content in Confluence to our 
current product and add fresh images.

And thanks, Ragnar.  It's good to know the 7.2 version is stable in Windows 10.

Thanks again everyone for your help here!

Kevin



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Re: [Framers] How Install FrameMaker Update Patches on Old FM Versions?

2019-12-18 Thread Ragnar Hanås 
I have been using FM 7.2 with Win 10 for almost a year now without problems. 
There are 2 patches, and which you should install depends on which version of 
FM 7.2 you are installing. I can't remember exactly what I did, but got it 
working after some experimenting. Even less crashes than with Win 8.1
Ragnar Hanas
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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Caroline Tabach
Sent: den 18 december 2019 13:00
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] How Install FrameMaker Update Patches on Old FM Versions?

I do not think Frame 7.2 is supported on Windows 10.

I used it on Vista! With a windows XP emulator (of some type)

Caroline Tabach

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019, 01:01 Kevin Ryan,  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We are migrating and updating scads of accumulated FrameMaker 
> documents into Confluence, using the old FrameMaker version 7.2 (with 
> MIf2Go as a converter).  Yes, I know this is an old version, but it works.
>
> My old PC is being decommissioned and I'm reinstalling FrameMaker 7.2 
> on a new Windows 10 machine.  When I visit the FrameMaker patch web 
> page at 
> https://supportdownloads.adobe.com/product.jsp?product=22=Win
> dows I see two patches applicable for FrameMaker 7.2 that I want to 
> install.  My problem is I forget just how I am supposed to handle the 
> downloaded patches' Zip folders.  When I unzip it one in place within 
> the Downloads folder and click its contained setup.exe program, a 
> wizard starts but gives me an ominous "Severe" error popup (not 
> elaborating what is so severe), followed by an off-the-wall message 
> that "The system is running very low on disk. You need to free up at 
> least 40 MB of space" when in fact my hard drive has plenty of space.
>
> Alternatively, I also tried clicking Help > Updates from within the 
> FrameMaker program itself, but this produces a pop up "Uploading Adobe 
> Online Components" highlighting "AWEXFiles.txt" followed by a message 
> that reads "There was a problem connecting to Adobe Online" and "Adobe 
> Online Error;File Could Not Be Downloaded."
>
> Am I doing something wrong?  Any tips from you FrameMaker mavens would 
> be appreciated. Maybe it's an Adobe end-of-life statement for version 7.2.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kevin Ryan
>
> Harriscomputer
>
> Kevin Ryan
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Re: [Framers] How Install FrameMaker Update Patches on Old FM Versions?

2019-12-18 Thread Caroline Tabach 
I do not think Frame 7.2 is supported on Windows 10.

I used it on Vista! With a windows XP emulator (of some type)

Caroline Tabach

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019, 01:01 Kevin Ryan,  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We are migrating and updating scads of accumulated FrameMaker documents
> into Confluence, using the old FrameMaker version 7.2 (with MIf2Go as a
> converter).  Yes, I know this is an old version, but it works.
>
> My old PC is being decommissioned and I'm reinstalling FrameMaker 7.2 on a
> new Windows 10 machine.  When I visit the FrameMaker patch web page at
> https://supportdownloads.adobe.com/product.jsp?product=22=Windows
> I see two patches applicable for FrameMaker 7.2 that I want to install.  My
> problem is I forget just how I am supposed to handle the downloaded
> patches' Zip folders.  When I unzip it one in place within the Downloads
> folder and click its contained setup.exe program, a wizard starts but gives
> me an ominous "Severe" error popup (not elaborating what is so severe),
> followed by an off-the-wall message that "The system is running very low on
> disk. You need to free up at least 40 MB of space" when in fact my hard
> drive has plenty of space.
>
> Alternatively, I also tried clicking Help > Updates from within the
> FrameMaker program itself, but this produces a pop up "Uploading Adobe
> Online Components" highlighting "AWEXFiles.txt" followed by a message that
> reads "There was a problem connecting to Adobe Online" and "Adobe Online
> Error;File Could Not Be Downloaded."
>
> Am I doing something wrong?  Any tips from you FrameMaker mavens would be
> appreciated. Maybe it's an Adobe end-of-life statement for version 7.2.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kevin Ryan
>
> Harriscomputer
>
> Kevin Ryan
> Technical Writer, Research & Development
> P: 802-865-1170x82412
> E: kr...@harriscomputer.com
>
>
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Re: [Framers] How Install FrameMaker Update Patches on Old FM Versions?

2019-12-17 Thread Robert Lauriston 
If you want to generate professional-quality PDFs from Confluence
content, get Scroll PDF Exporter.

If the license fees are too high because you have a lot of users, you
can install it (even locally on your PC or Mac) in a separate instance
and copy spaces from the main instance when you need to generate a
PDF.

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 3:42 PM Kevin Ryan  wrote:
>
> Hi Phyllis,
>
> Hi, NOT what you are asking, but I am wondering: what will you do with FM 
> docs in confluence?
>
> We are converting years of traditional FM-to-PDF books guides to online 
> guides in Confluence that take better advantage of interlinked parent-child 
> page hierarchies and the easy-update capabilities of Confluence.  
> Incidentally, for those readers who still prefer PDF books, we are also 
> including in the initial Confluence title page a link to a supplemental 
> PDF-export produced by Confluence (not highly impressive) tweaked a bit in 
> Acrobat to look more presentable.
>
> It is not a fool-proof process (as Mif2Go is out of date as well since Jeremy 
> Griffith's passing!), but as soon as the conversions are completed, my 
> company is unfortunately planning to move away from FrameMaker.
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Re: [Framers] How Install FrameMaker Update Patches on Old FM Versions?

2019-12-17 Thread Kevin Ryan 
Hi Phyllis,

Hi, NOT what you are asking, but I am wondering: what will you do with FM 
docs in confluence?

We are converting years of traditional FM-to-PDF books guides to online guides 
in Confluence that take better advantage of interlinked parent-child page 
hierarchies and the easy-update capabilities of Confluence.  Incidentally, for 
those readers who still prefer PDF books, we are also including in the initial 
Confluence title page a link to a supplemental PDF-export produced by 
Confluence (not highly impressive) tweaked a bit in Acrobat to look more 
presentable. 

It is not a fool-proof process (as Mif2Go is out of date as well since Jeremy 
Griffith's passing!), but as soon as the conversions are completed, my company 
is unfortunately planning to move away from FrameMaker. 

Kevin 

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Re: [Framers] How Install FrameMaker Update Patches on Old FM Versions?

2019-12-17 Thread Robert Lauriston 
How are you using MIF2Go to migrate to Confluence? Pasting HTML page
by page? I worked with Jeremy to try to get something more efficient
but we gave up.

Have you tried running setup.exe in Windows XP compatibility mode?

>
> Hello,
>
> We are migrating and updating scads of accumulated FrameMaker documents into 
> Confluence, using the old FrameMaker version 7.2 (with MIf2Go as a 
> converter).  Yes, I know this is an old version, but it works.
>
> My old PC is being decommissioned and I'm reinstalling FrameMaker 7.2 on a 
> new Windows 10 machine.  When I visit the FrameMaker patch web page at
> https://supportdownloads.adobe.com/product.jsp?product=22=Windows I 
> see two patches applicable for FrameMaker 7.2 that I want to install.  My 
> problem is I forget just how I am supposed to handle the downloaded patches' 
> Zip folders.  When I unzip it one in place within the Downloads folder and 
> click its contained setup.exe program, a wizard starts but gives me an 
> ominous "Severe" error popup (not elaborating what is so severe), followed by 
> an off-the-wall message that "The system is running very low on disk. You 
> need to free up at least 40 MB of space" when in fact my hard drive has 
> plenty of space.
>
> Alternatively, I also tried clicking Help > Updates from within the 
> FrameMaker program itself, but this produces a pop up "Uploading Adobe Online 
> Components" highlighting "AWEXFiles.txt" followed by a message that reads 
> "There was a problem connecting to Adobe Online" and "Adobe Online Error;File 
> Could Not Be Downloaded."
>
> Am I doing something wrong?  Any tips from you FrameMaker mavens would be 
> appreciated. Maybe it's an Adobe end-of-life statement for version 7.2.
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[Framers] How Install FrameMaker Update Patches on Old FM Versions?

2019-12-17 Thread Kevin Ryan 
Hello,

We are migrating and updating scads of accumulated FrameMaker documents into 
Confluence, using the old FrameMaker version 7.2 (with MIf2Go as a converter).  
Yes, I know this is an old version, but it works.

My old PC is being decommissioned and I'm reinstalling FrameMaker 7.2 on a new 
Windows 10 machine.  When I visit the FrameMaker patch web page at
https://supportdownloads.adobe.com/product.jsp?product=22=Windows I 
see two patches applicable for FrameMaker 7.2 that I want to install.  My 
problem is I forget just how I am supposed to handle the downloaded patches' 
Zip folders.  When I unzip it one in place within the Downloads folder and 
click its contained setup.exe program, a wizard starts but gives me an ominous 
"Severe" error popup (not elaborating what is so severe), followed by an 
off-the-wall message that "The system is running very low on disk. You need to 
free up at least 40 MB of space" when in fact my hard drive has plenty of space.

Alternatively, I also tried clicking Help > Updates from within the FrameMaker 
program itself, but this produces a pop up "Uploading Adobe Online Components" 
highlighting "AWEXFiles.txt" followed by a message that reads "There was a 
problem connecting to Adobe Online" and "Adobe Online Error;File Could Not Be 
Downloaded."

Am I doing something wrong?  Any tips from you FrameMaker mavens would be 
appreciated. Maybe it's an Adobe end-of-life statement for version 7.2.

Thank you,

Kevin Ryan

Harriscomputer

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