Re: [Framers] OT: Word to XML
Lynne, Very true! Craig .. ... There are at least a couple of advantages of Create and Apply Formats in some cases: 1) When there are lots of untagged overrides, C F gives you a starting point for distinguishing formats that have overrides from those that don't 2) When the overrides fall into distinct groups, C F let's you distinguish the groups without having to inspect them one at a time. --Lynne ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: Word to XML
Craig, Many, many years ago, my father laughed at a recipe in one of my mom's cookbooks which concluded something like, "bake for 20 minutes, more or less, it all depends". Same thing here, it all depends, but this time we might at least give a clue about what the dependencies are. There are at least a couple of advantages of Create and Apply Formats in some cases: 1) When there are lots of untagged overrides, C F gives you a starting point for distinguishing formats that have overrides from those that don't 2) When the overrides fall into distinct groups, C F let's you distinguish the groups without having to inspect them one at a time. --Lynne On 7/22/2019 5:45 PM, Craig Ede wrote: Rather than using the 'create and apply formats' feature, I'd use the 'find paragraph override'; and 'find character overrides' search functions to find anywhere where the tags are overridden with some other formatting. Mostly these will be nothing meaningful, and then you can set these ranges to the default format desired, easily done since they are highlighted by the search action. This should allow you to get rid of the overrides that would create the numbered formats that Lynn describes and gives you the chance to standardize all your formats to those you've defined as desirable. Craig -- Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: Word to XML
Rather than using the 'create and apply formats' feature, I'd use the 'find paragraph override'; and 'find character overrides' search functions to find anywhere where the tags are overridden with some other formatting. Mostly these will be nothing meaningful, and then you can set these ranges to the default format desired, easily done since they are highlighted by the search action. This should allow you to get rid of the overrides that would create the numbered formats that Lynn describes and gives you the chance to standardize all your formats to those you've defined as desirable. Craig ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: Word to XML
Which elements and attributes? On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:37 AM Roger Shuttleworth wrote: > > Thanks, Robert, for this information. > > By "simple XML" I meant something that would ignore formatting > considerations - in other words, tag the content with elements and > attributes, but ignore pretty much everything else. I have seen the > default XML output from Word... > > I will investigate the tools you mention. > > Roger > > > On 22/07/2019 17:33, Robert Lauriston wrote: > > I'm not sure what you mean by "simple XML." There are direct > > converters for .docx > DocBook and DITA, for example: > > > > https://pandoc.org > > https://www.xmlmind.com/w2x/online_w2x.html > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 5:18 AM Roger Shuttleworth > > wrote: > >> I have a set of well over 100 Word documents (I know...) that I would > >> like to convert to simple XML (not the kind that Word exports!). They > >> are all four pages long and pretty consistent in terms of structure, ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: Word to XML
On 7/22/2019 11:50 AM, Roger Shuttleworth wrote: Lynne - I have made conversion tables before, so that is not a problem. Thanks for the tip about not needing a DTD. My Word docs (not written by me) are all four pages long, and the style usage is probably about 80%. I agree that there will be a lot of cleanup to do first, but I can assemble dozens of files at once into a single file and hopefully use Find/Replace and/or VBA to handle a lot of it, then split the files up again later. Roger, If you go with FM, you can open the Word docs in FM and then use the Create and Apply Formats command to make sure that every distinct pgf format has a different name. For example, if two pgfs are both tagged Xyz but their paragraph properties don't exactly match, this command would leave the first one as is, but change the tag of the second one to Xyz1 and make an entry for Xyz1. This retagging is very useful if the appearance difference is noticeable and a pain if it is something that you don't care about. It does call your attention to all differences in paragraph, character, and table formats. Once you've decided which differences you want to preserve, you can map all the variants that should be combined to the same element in your conversion table, or you can do a global change of insignificant variants to the main form. Just remember that the suffixes that Create and Apply Formats assigns are likely to differ document to document. --Lynne -- Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: Word to XML
Hello Yves and Lynne Thanks to you both for the information and for your kind offers. I am very impressed with all your willingness to help. As mentioned to Rick, I need to do a lot more research yet, but may take you up on it later. Lynne - I have made conversion tables before, so that is not a problem. Thanks for the tip about not needing a DTD. My Word docs (not written by me) are all four pages long, and the style usage is probably about 80%. I agree that there will be a lot of cleanup to do first, but I can assemble dozens of files at once into a single file and hopefully use Find/Replace and/or VBA to handle a lot of it, then split the files up again later. Lots of thinking to do before I pitch in! Regards, Roger On 22/07/2019 14:00, Yves Barbion wrote: Hi Roger I still use MIF2Go for Word to DITA conversions (via Frame, of course). Yes, it still works with FrameMaker 11 on Windows 10 and yes, it's incredibly powerful. I still have a (very old) video here on YouTube which shows you more or less how it works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHUE0G_VhTU If you're interested, we can have a webmeeting or you can send me a sample Word file to give it a whirl. I wish someone would update MIF2Go for the later versions of Frame. Jeremy Griffith did some really nice work here. Cheers Yves Barbion www.flowtime.be On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 14:37, Rick Quatro wrote: Hi Roger, If they are docx files, you can replace the .docx extension with .zip and get to the content inside the document. It will be the cluttered Word XML, but you can then use ExtendScript or XSLT to transform it to something useful. If you want to have a web meeting to explore this, please contact me offlist. Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 www.frameexpert.com/store/ -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Roger Shuttleworth Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:18 AM To: Framers Subject: [Framers] OT: Word to XML Hello Framers This is somewhat off-topic as it doesn't directly concern FrameMaker (though it could). Nevertheless, I know there are people on this list who are much more knowledgeable than I, so here goes... I have a set of well over 100 Word documents (I know...) that I would like to convert to simple XML (not the kind that Word exports!). They are all four pages long and pretty consistent in terms of structure, and paragraph styles are used for the most part, though not character styles. If you were me, what methods would you look at? I have used structured FM for years and am familiar with DITA and DocBook. I know that there is a route from Word doc > FrameMaker > Structured FrameMaker > XML that would involve creating a conversion table, a DTD, and a structured application. I have done that in the past, though it was a few years ago. I realise that it would mean a lot of up-front work to get it working, as well as ensuring that styles are used fully and consistently in my source documents. But is that what you would recommend? I have FM11. Would a later version of FM add anything to that? Or is there a non-FrameMaker route that I am unaware of? I have done a web search but not come up with much. Is there a route via HTML or XHTML? What about MIF2Go? I understand that it still works with FM11, but is it capable of converting to XML? Any and all ideas would be welcome. I value your input as it will help me avoid a lot of dead ends. Roger ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http:/
Re: [Framers] OT: Word to XML
Thanks, Rick. My XSLT skills are basic, and ExtendScript non-existent. Thanks too for your offer of a web meeting. I need to do a lot more research yet, but if it appears to be useful I will be in touch. Regards, Roger On 22/07/2019 13:37, Rick Quatro wrote: Hi Roger, If they are docx files, you can replace the .docx extension with .zip and get to the content inside the document. It will be the cluttered Word XML, but you can then use ExtendScript or XSLT to transform it to something useful. If you want to have a web meeting to explore this, please contact me offlist. Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 www.frameexpert.com/store/ -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Roger Shuttleworth Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:18 AM To: Framers Subject: [Framers] OT: Word to XML Hello Framers This is somewhat off-topic as it doesn't directly concern FrameMaker (though it could). Nevertheless, I know there are people on this list who are much more knowledgeable than I, so here goes... I have a set of well over 100 Word documents (I know...) that I would like to convert to simple XML (not the kind that Word exports!). They are all four pages long and pretty consistent in terms of structure, and paragraph styles are used for the most part, though not character styles. If you were me, what methods would you look at? I have used structured FM for years and am familiar with DITA and DocBook. I know that there is a route from Word doc > FrameMaker > Structured FrameMaker > XML that would involve creating a conversion table, a DTD, and a structured application. I have done that in the past, though it was a few years ago. I realise that it would mean a lot of up-front work to get it working, as well as ensuring that styles are used fully and consistently in my source documents. But is that what you would recommend? I have FM11. Would a later version of FM add anything to that? Or is there a non-FrameMaker route that I am unaware of? I have done a web search but not come up with much. Is there a route via HTML or XHTML? What about MIF2Go? I understand that it still works with FM11, but is it capable of converting to XML? Any and all ideas would be welcome. I value your input as it will help me avoid a lot of dead ends. Roger ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: Word to XML
Thanks, Robert, for this information. By "simple XML" I meant something that would ignore formatting considerations - in other words, tag the content with elements and attributes, but ignore pretty much everything else. I have seen the default XML output from Word... I will investigate the tools you mention. Roger On 22/07/2019 17:33, Robert Lauriston wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by "simple XML." There are direct converters for .docx > DocBook and DITA, for example: https://pandoc.org https://www.xmlmind.com/w2x/online_w2x.html On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 5:18 AM Roger Shuttleworth wrote: I have a set of well over 100 Word documents (I know...) that I would like to convert to simple XML (not the kind that Word exports!). They are all four pages long and pretty consistent in terms of structure, ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: Word to XML
I'm not sure what you mean by "simple XML." There are direct converters for .docx > DocBook and DITA, for example: https://pandoc.org https://www.xmlmind.com/w2x/online_w2x.html On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 5:18 AM Roger Shuttleworth wrote: > > I have a set of well over 100 Word documents (I know...) that I would > like to convert to simple XML (not the kind that Word exports!). They > are all four pages long and pretty consistent in terms of structure, ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: Word to XML
On 7/22/2019 5:18 AM, Roger Shuttleworth wrote: I have a set of well over 100 Word documents (I know...) that I would like to convert to simple XML (not the kind that Word exports!). They are all four pages long and pretty consistent in terms of structure, and paragraph styles are used for the most part, though not character styles. If you were me, what methods would you look at? I have used structured FM for years and am familiar with DITA and DocBook. I know that there is a route from Word doc > FrameMaker > Structured FrameMaker > XML that would involve creating a conversion table, a DTD, and a structured application. I have done that in the past, though it was a few years ago. I realise that it would mean a lot of up-front work to get it working, as well as ensuring that styles are used fully and consistently in my source documents. Roger, You now have three approaches to consider--conversion table, MIF2Go, and Word XML. Often in such projects, the developer's experience has a lot to do with the chosen route. I would probably start with a conversion table and if you have past experience doing so, it might be the most straightforward approach. I often touch up the structure produced by a conversion table with XSLT. I would be cautious about starting from Word XML because it is very focused on formatting details and there would be a lot to ignore. Your last clause, "ensuring that styles are used fully and consistently in my source documents," may well indicate where the bulk of the work has to be done. You don't indicate how long your hundred Word documents are or how consistently the authors attempted to use Word styles, but even in the best of practical cases there is probably a lot of work to do. Also, you mention creating a DTD as part of a conversion table approach. Does the target XML you want to create use a DTD? A schema? Neither? Has it been designed? FM can export XML without a DTD, although tables, graphics, and cross-references may require one. And I will join the other respondents and offer to meet with you online to look at a conversion table approach. --Lynne -- Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: Word to XML
Hi Roger I still use MIF2Go for Word to DITA conversions (via Frame, of course). Yes, it still works with FrameMaker 11 on Windows 10 and yes, it's incredibly powerful. I still have a (very old) video here on YouTube which shows you more or less how it works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHUE0G_VhTU If you're interested, we can have a webmeeting or you can send me a sample Word file to give it a whirl. I wish someone would update MIF2Go for the later versions of Frame. Jeremy Griffith did some really nice work here. Cheers Yves Barbion www.flowtime.be On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 14:37, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Roger, > > If they are docx files, you can replace the .docx extension with .zip and > get to the content inside the document. It will be the cluttered Word XML, > but you can then use ExtendScript or XSLT to transform it to something > useful. If you want to have a web meeting to explore this, please contact > me > offlist. Thanks. > > Rick > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing Inc. > r...@frameexpert.com > 585-729-6746 > www.frameexpert.com/store/ > > > > -Original Message- > From: Framers > On > Behalf Of Roger Shuttleworth > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:18 AM > To: Framers > Subject: [Framers] OT: Word to XML > > Hello Framers > > This is somewhat off-topic as it doesn't directly concern FrameMaker > (though > it could). Nevertheless, I know there are people on this list who are much > more knowledgeable than I, so here goes... > > I have a set of well over 100 Word documents (I know...) that I would like > to convert to simple XML (not the kind that Word exports!). They are all > four pages long and pretty consistent in terms of structure, and paragraph > styles are used for the most part, though not character styles. If you were > me, what methods would you look at? > > I have used structured FM for years and am familiar with DITA and DocBook. > I > know that there is a route from Word doc > FrameMaker > Structured > FrameMaker > XML that would involve creating a conversion table, a DTD, and > a structured application. I have done that in the past, though it was a few > years ago. I realise that it would mean a lot of up-front work to get it > working, as well as ensuring that styles are used fully and consistently in > my source documents. > > But is that what you would recommend? > > I have FM11. Would a later version of FM add anything to that? > > Or is there a non-FrameMaker route that I am unaware of? I have done a web > search but not come up with much. Is there a route via HTML or XHTML? > > What about MIF2Go? I understand that it still works with FM11, but is it > capable of converting to XML? > > Any and all ideas would be welcome. I value your input as it will help me > avoid a lot of dead ends. > > Roger > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at > http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] OT: Word to XML
Hi Roger, If they are docx files, you can replace the .docx extension with .zip and get to the content inside the document. It will be the cluttered Word XML, but you can then use ExtendScript or XSLT to transform it to something useful. If you want to have a web meeting to explore this, please contact me offlist. Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 www.frameexpert.com/store/ -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Roger Shuttleworth Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:18 AM To: Framers Subject: [Framers] OT: Word to XML Hello Framers This is somewhat off-topic as it doesn't directly concern FrameMaker (though it could). Nevertheless, I know there are people on this list who are much more knowledgeable than I, so here goes... I have a set of well over 100 Word documents (I know...) that I would like to convert to simple XML (not the kind that Word exports!). They are all four pages long and pretty consistent in terms of structure, and paragraph styles are used for the most part, though not character styles. If you were me, what methods would you look at? I have used structured FM for years and am familiar with DITA and DocBook. I know that there is a route from Word doc > FrameMaker > Structured FrameMaker > XML that would involve creating a conversion table, a DTD, and a structured application. I have done that in the past, though it was a few years ago. I realise that it would mean a lot of up-front work to get it working, as well as ensuring that styles are used fully and consistently in my source documents. But is that what you would recommend? I have FM11. Would a later version of FM add anything to that? Or is there a non-FrameMaker route that I am unaware of? I have done a web search but not come up with much. Is there a route via HTML or XHTML? What about MIF2Go? I understand that it still works with FM11, but is it capable of converting to XML? Any and all ideas would be welcome. I value your input as it will help me avoid a lot of dead ends. Roger ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] OT: Word to XML
Hello Framers This is somewhat off-topic as it doesn't directly concern FrameMaker (though it could). Nevertheless, I know there are people on this list who are much more knowledgeable than I, so here goes... I have a set of well over 100 Word documents (I know...) that I would like to convert to simple XML (not the kind that Word exports!). They are all four pages long and pretty consistent in terms of structure, and paragraph styles are used for the most part, though not character styles. If you were me, what methods would you look at? I have used structured FM for years and am familiar with DITA and DocBook. I know that there is a route from Word doc > FrameMaker > Structured FrameMaker > XML that would involve creating a conversion table, a DTD, and a structured application. I have done that in the past, though it was a few years ago. I realise that it would mean a lot of up-front work to get it working, as well as ensuring that styles are used fully and consistently in my source documents. But is that what you would recommend? I have FM11. Would a later version of FM add anything to that? Or is there a non-FrameMaker route that I am unaware of? I have done a web search but not come up with much. Is there a route via HTML or XHTML? What about MIF2Go? I understand that it still works with FM11, but is it capable of converting to XML? Any and all ideas would be welcome. I value your input as it will help me avoid a lot of dead ends. Roger ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
