Re: [Framers] Table Conversion with Formats
Try the following: Make a copy of the FM file. Save the file as a Word file. Open it in Word. Do the conversion to table in Word. Opening the Word file in FM. Copy the table back to the original FM doc. Select the entire table and apply the table ruling and shading "From Table." This removes any custom format that FM added when converting the Word file to FM. On 04-Sep-21 8:10 AM, Karen Robbins wrote: Hi Framers, I'm updating a long-used FM document for accessibility. Using FM 2019's Table > Convert to Table function, I converted existing formatted paragraphs with tabbed columns into an actual table. The conversion correctly applies table title and column header formats. But it ignores all other paragraph formats, so the entire page-long table is converted to column header format. I have to reassign the table text format to the entire table (because it covers the most content), then individually assign different formats to the cells in which they apply. This takes about five times as long as it should. There are 16 tables, so you do the math. FM's conversion approach is illogical and contrary: it applies some other format to already-formatted content without warning or explanation. Can FM be made to convert to table keeping all paragraph formats intact? Thanks, Karen ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Table Conversion with Formats
Hi Karen, FYI, if this is an ongoing requirement, it could be scripted to maintain all of the paragraph formats when converting to a table. If you are interested in a script solution, please contact me offlist. Thank you. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-729-6746 r...@frameexpert.com http://www.frameexpert.com/store -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Karen Robbins Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2021 1:11 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Table Conversion with Formats Hi Framers, I'm updating a long-used FM document for accessibility. Using FM 2019's Table > Convert to Table function, I converted existing formatted paragraphs with tabbed columns into an actual table. The conversion correctly applies table title and column header formats. But it ignores all other paragraph formats, so the entire page-long table is converted to column header format. I have to reassign the table text format to the entire table (because it covers the most content), then individually assign different formats to the cells in which they apply. This takes about five times as long as it should. There are 16 tables, so you do the math. FM's conversion approach is illogical and contrary: it applies some other format to already-formatted content without warning or explanation. Can FM be made to convert to table keeping all paragraph formats intact? Thanks, Karen ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Table Conversion with Formats
Karen, The short answer to your question is no. However, when doing the convert to table process you are able to choose a table format to use as the target format for the new table. Be aware that the table format only allows you to choose one para format to apply to all the non-heading table rows, so you should design a table format that defines the first regular table row in a way that most of your table cells will require. The others will have to be reformatted. You can do this by column by selecting an entire column (minus the heading cell(s)) and applying the needed table cell format. BTW: Retaining the original para formats would, presumably, give you table cells with multiple tabs in them, which wouldn’t make much sense in the single cell context. Can FM be made to convert to table keeping all paragraph formats intact? Thanks, Karen Good luck, Craig ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Table Conversion with Formats
Hi Karen, Are para formats correctly named with no surface formatting in the original? What happens if you don't include the title and header when you convert? If that's ok, you could manually add the title and column headers after. Not great but a little better. Good luck and have a good LD weekend. Louise Louise Kaufman1502 Meadowbrook DriveMason City, IA 50401641.424.2138louisekmchsi.com - Original Message - From: Karen Robbins To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Sat, 04 Sep 2021 01:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Framers] Table Conversion with Formats Hi Framers, I'm updating a long-used FM document for accessibility. Using FM 2019's Table > Convert to Table function, I converted existing formatted paragraphs with tabbed columns into an actual table. The conversion correctly applies table title and column header formats. But it ignores all other paragraph formats, so the entire page-long table is converted to column header format. I have to reassign the table text format to the entire table (because it covers the most content), then individually assign different formats to the cells in which they apply. This takes about five times as long as it should. There are 16 tables, so you do the math. FM's conversion approach is illogical and contrary: it applies some other format to already-formatted content without warning or explanation. Can FM be made to convert to table keeping all paragraph formats intact? Thanks, Karen ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Table Conversion with Formats
Hi Framers, I'm updating a long-used FM document for accessibility. Using FM 2019's Table > Convert to Table function, I converted existing formatted paragraphs with tabbed columns into an actual table. The conversion correctly applies table title and column header formats. But it ignores all other paragraph formats, so the entire page-long table is converted to column header format. I have to reassign the table text format to the entire table (because it covers the most content), then individually assign different formats to the cells in which they apply. This takes about five times as long as it should. There are 16 tables, so you do the math. FM's conversion approach is illogical and contrary: it applies some other format to already-formatted content without warning or explanation. Can FM be made to convert to table keeping all paragraph formats intact? Thanks, Karen ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
