Re: [Framers] Table and Figure Numbering
Not being a Star Trek fan, I would never think in those terms - but I'm glad I could enlighten you (albeit accidently). ;- Alison Alison Craig Technical Writer, Engineering, Greenlight Innovation === -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 3:04 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Table and Figure Numbering You're absolutely correct! Except that tables and figures aren't numbered! The paragraphs that are used by tables as their titles, have numbering properties. Figures have no numbering properties, but the paragraphs in which figure frames are anchored do have those properties. So, for all Vulcans, and others who share Spock-ian mindsets, as I do, it makes perfect logical sense: If you view a FM document's text flow as a family tree, a genome, a stream of paragraphs whose formats have many properties that are shared among the relatives and descendents, that comprise the document's behaviors, it makes sense. Until I started responding to your raising the issue this way, I never paid attention to why FM made sense to me over all these years. Thanks for the inspiration for me to clarify explicitly what I've just been doing intuitively for so long. Really! Of course, now, if I stay consciously aware of all this, it could be paralyzing when I try to write, like looking down while on a tightrope. ;) On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 1:39 PM Craig, Alison GLI/CA < acr...@greenlightinnovation.com> wrote: > Thanks Lynne. > > It would never have occurred to me that Paragraph numbering controlled > sequential Table/Figure numbering. > > Alison > > > Alison Craig > Technical Writer, Engineering, Greenlight Innovation > === > > -Original Message- > From: Framers greenlightinnovation@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Lynne A. Price > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 11:10 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: [Framers] Table and Figure Numbering > > Alison, > > If there are chapters or appendices with no tables or figures, you > still need to set Paragraph numbering to Continue Numbering from > Previous Paragraph in Book. If you leave the default setting in those > chapters, they will start the numbering over. Those chapters will look > fine, but the first one that does have a table will continue from the > preceding chapter, not the preceding chapter with tables. > > --Lynne > > On 8/26/2021 10:51 AM, A Craig wrote: > > I assume I am missing something really simple, but I can't get the Table > and Figure numbering in the Appendices to pick up where they left off in > the Chapters. > > The first Appendix with a Table / Figure starts over at 1 and thereafter > the numbers are cumulative within all the Appendices. > > What setting am I missing? > > -- > Lynne A. Price > Text Structure Consulting, Inc. > Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, > and training > lpr...@txstruct.com > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.txstruct.com__;!!Oq50-tQ!8FB_j_FqjXufjEbXXwsLHuN4UwIcqtgr-W3LTZO1YizXKKlNHomUCBOuYRMX0mOPXgPKc4kd$ > voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.frameusers.com__;!!Oq50-tQ!8FB_j_FqjXufjEbXXwsLHuN4UwIcqtgr-W3LTZO1YizXKKlNHomUCBOuYRMX0mOPXiF6jb_z$ > Archives located at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.mail-archive.com/framers*40lists.frameusers.com/__;JQ!!Oq50-tQ!8FB_j_FqjXufjEbXXwsLHuN4UwIcqtgr-W3LTZO1YizXKKlNHomUCBOuYRMX0mOPXvY9S_Un$ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com__;!!Oq50-tQ!8FB_j_FqjXufjEbXXwsLHuN4UwIcqtgr-W3LTZO1YizXKKlNHomUCBOuYRMX0mOPXrNf_OQt$ > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.frameusers.com__;!!Oq50-tQ!41zfYnBEgMQBtlkhAgcDkWj1vDEHoWlmyvbSCWT-ycYA5CwkbbFl27ucDDZPEy9RzVdFwP-w$ > > Archives located at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.mail-archive.com/framers*40lists.frameusers.com/__;JQ!!Oq50-tQ!41zfYnBEgMQBtlkhAgcDkWj1vDEHoWlmyvbSCWT-ycYA5CwkbbFl27ucDDZPEy9RzRBR5t2Y$ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.c
Re: [Framers] Table and Figure Numbering
Thanks Lynne. It would never have occurred to me that Paragraph numbering controlled sequential Table/Figure numbering. Alison Alison Craig Technical Writer, Engineering, Greenlight Innovation === -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Lynne A. Price Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 11:10 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Table and Figure Numbering Alison, If there are chapters or appendices with no tables or figures, you still need to set Paragraph numbering to Continue Numbering from Previous Paragraph in Book. If you leave the default setting in those chapters, they will start the numbering over. Those chapters will look fine, but the first one that does have a table will continue from the preceding chapter, not the preceding chapter with tables. --Lynne On 8/26/2021 10:51 AM, A Craig wrote: > I assume I am missing something really simple, but I can't get the Table and > Figure numbering in the Appendices to pick up where they left off in the > Chapters. > The first Appendix with a Table / Figure starts over at 1 and thereafter the > numbers are cumulative within all the Appendices. > What setting am I missing? -- Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.com https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.txstruct.com__;!!Oq50-tQ!8FB_j_FqjXufjEbXXwsLHuN4UwIcqtgr-W3LTZO1YizXKKlNHomUCBOuYRMX0mOPXgPKc4kd$ voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.frameusers.com__;!!Oq50-tQ!8FB_j_FqjXufjEbXXwsLHuN4UwIcqtgr-W3LTZO1YizXKKlNHomUCBOuYRMX0mOPXiF6jb_z$ Archives located at https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.mail-archive.com/framers*40lists.frameusers.com/__;JQ!!Oq50-tQ!8FB_j_FqjXufjEbXXwsLHuN4UwIcqtgr-W3LTZO1YizXKKlNHomUCBOuYRMX0mOPXvY9S_Un$ Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com__;!!Oq50-tQ!8FB_j_FqjXufjEbXXwsLHuN4UwIcqtgr-W3LTZO1YizXKKlNHomUCBOuYRMX0mOPXrNf_OQt$ Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Table and Figure Numbering
You're absolutely correct! Except that tables and figures aren't numbered! The paragraphs that are used by tables as their titles, have numbering properties. Figures have no numbering properties, but the paragraphs in which figure frames are anchored do have those properties. So, for all Vulcans, and others who share Spock-ian mindsets, as I do, it makes perfect logical sense: If you view a FM document's text flow as a family tree, a genome, a stream of paragraphs whose formats have many properties that are shared among the relatives and descendents, that comprise the document's behaviors, it makes sense. Until I started responding to your raising the issue this way, I never paid attention to why FM made sense to me over all these years. Thanks for the inspiration for me to clarify explicitly what I've just been doing intuitively for so long. Really! Of course, now, if I stay consciously aware of all this, it could be paralyzing when I try to write, like looking down while on a tightrope. ;) On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 1:39 PM Craig, Alison GLI/CA < acr...@greenlightinnovation.com> wrote: > Thanks Lynne. > > It would never have occurred to me that Paragraph numbering controlled > sequential Table/Figure numbering. > > Alison > > > Alison Craig > Technical Writer, Engineering, Greenlight Innovation > === > > -Original Message- > From: Framers greenlightinnovation@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Lynne A. Price > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 11:10 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: [Framers] Table and Figure Numbering > > Alison, > > If there are chapters or appendices with no tables or figures, you > still need to set Paragraph numbering to Continue Numbering from > Previous Paragraph in Book. If you leave the default setting in those > chapters, they will start the numbering over. Those chapters will look > fine, but the first one that does have a table will continue from the > preceding chapter, not the preceding chapter with tables. > > --Lynne > > On 8/26/2021 10:51 AM, A Craig wrote: > > I assume I am missing something really simple, but I can't get the Table > and Figure numbering in the Appendices to pick up where they left off in > the Chapters. > > The first Appendix with a Table / Figure starts over at 1 and thereafter > the numbers are cumulative within all the Appendices. > > What setting am I missing? > > -- > Lynne A. Price > Text Structure Consulting, Inc. > Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, > and training > lpr...@txstruct.com > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.txstruct.com__;!!Oq50-tQ!8FB_j_FqjXufjEbXXwsLHuN4UwIcqtgr-W3LTZO1YizXKKlNHomUCBOuYRMX0mOPXgPKc4kd$ > voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.frameusers.com__;!!Oq50-tQ!8FB_j_FqjXufjEbXXwsLHuN4UwIcqtgr-W3LTZO1YizXKKlNHomUCBOuYRMX0mOPXiF6jb_z$ > Archives located at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.mail-archive.com/framers*40lists.frameusers.com/__;JQ!!Oq50-tQ!8FB_j_FqjXufjEbXXwsLHuN4UwIcqtgr-W3LTZO1YizXKKlNHomUCBOuYRMX0mOPXvY9S_Un$ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com__;!!Oq50-tQ!8FB_j_FqjXufjEbXXwsLHuN4UwIcqtgr-W3LTZO1YizXKKlNHomUCBOuYRMX0mOPXrNf_OQt$ > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Table and Figure Numbering
Alison, If there are chapters or appendices with no tables or figures, you still need to set Paragraph numbering to Continue Numbering from Previous Paragraph in Book. If you leave the default setting in those chapters, they will start the numbering over. Those chapters will look fine, but the first one that does have a table will continue from the preceding chapter, not the preceding chapter with tables. --Lynne On 8/26/2021 10:51 AM, A Craig wrote: I assume I am missing something really simple, but I can't get the Table and Figure numbering in the Appendices to pick up where they left off in the Chapters. The first Appendix with a Table / Figure starts over at 1 and thereafter the numbers are cumulative within all the Appendices. What setting am I missing? -- Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Table and Figure Numbering
Win 10 FrameMaker 2020 I assume I am missing something really simple, but I can't get the Table and Figure numbering in the Appendices to pick up where they left off in the Chapters. The first Appendix with a Table / Figure starts over at 1 and thereafter the numbers are cumulative within all the Appendices. What setting am I missing? Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com