Re: [Framers] alternatives to VirtualBox in Windows
I've run FrameMaker 6 in Windows 7 using Windows XP Mode, which is a feature of Windows Virtual PC. No need to install the operating system. I use Virtualbox all the time and it has its quirks. I don't think Microsoft is to blame for Adobe's ancient code base having problems in Windows. On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Frank Stearns wrote: > I don't remember the issues now, but at least in Win 7 for my needs at the > time there were some show-stoppers with the built-in virtual system from > Microsoft. In contrast, Virtualbox simply installed and ran, no fuss, no > muss, with just the right set of user controls and operating options. > > The built-in "Hyper-V" might be worth a try under Win10, but to be honest, I > don't entirely trust MS. Remember, they're the ones who through their OS > issues for Framers effectively started this conversation in the first place! > YMMV. > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, Robert Lauriston wrote: > >> Windows has its own virtual PC system. In Windows 7 it's Windows >> Virtual PC, which has to be installed. In Windows 10 it's Hyper-V, >> which is built in. > > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] alternatives to VirtualBox in Windows
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, Robert Lauriston wrote: Windows has its own virtual PC system. In Windows 7 it's Windows Virtual PC, which has to be installed. In Windows 10 it's Hyper-V, which is built in. I don't remember the issues now, but at least in Win 7 for my needs at the time there were some show-stoppers with the built-in virtual system from Microsoft. In contrast, Virtualbox simply installed and ran, no fuss, no muss, with just the right set of user controls and operating options. The built-in "Hyper-V" might be worth a try under Win10, but to be honest, I don't entirely trust MS. Remember, they're the ones who through their OS issues for Framers effectively started this conversation in the first place! YMMV. Frank Stearns Associates | makers of IXgen(tm) for FrameMaker(r) *** IXGEN 7-10 for FrameMaker 10-15 HERE! *** fra...@fsatools.com 1-435-275-8981 fsatools.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] alternatives to VirtualBox in Windows
Windows has its own virtual PC system. In Windows 7 it's Windows Virtual PC, which has to be installed. In Windows 10 it's Hyper-V, which is built in. You can download VM images (ISO files) for various Windows releases from Microsoft. On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 5:51 AM, Frank Stearns wrote: > > Older versions of FM sometimes seem unhappy running directly in a newer OS. > > Try VirtualBox from Oracle. It's free; you can set up a virtual XP > environment under Win 7 or Win 10, install FM in that XP world, and away you > go, often faster and without those quirks compared to running the older FM > natively. (I've found the emulator offering from Microsoft to be lacking and > unreliable. What a surprise.) > > With a few configuration tweaks, the virtual environment can r/w "real" disk > locations outside the environment, you can copy and paste (control-C/V) to > and from apps inside and outside the virtual environment, and you can > send/receive from your USB devices, such as printers, keyboards, mice. > > Two caveats: You'll need original XP disks to do the install; and so far > there is no support for firewire devices. > > Overall a headache saver and in our case, we have a 25 year-old custom > database that's impossible to run in Win7 but works just fine in Virtualbox. > A HUGE time saver and business saver, actually -- we were unable to rewrite > that db for a newer OS. And oh, btw, FM7.x runs nicely in that environment > as well. :) ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
