Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls

2010-07-13 Thread Tony Marek 
Hello -- about five years ago I was given a method for converting all 
referenced graphic files in a Frame document from .tif to .gif format. 
(.gif works better for our purposes now.) The document I'm working on 
has thousands of .tifs, so an automated way to do this is needed. Our 
method involved saving/exporting the Frame document to some sort of 
text-based format where all of the graphic references were spelled out. 
(This was not .mif.) Then I could simply search for all .tif strings 
and replace them with .gif. After that I'd somehow save the file back 
into the standard Frame format. Then in Photoshop, I'd do a batch change 
of the .tifs to .gifs. Then opening the converted Frame document 
resulted in all the reference calls bringing up the new .gif images.  
The problem is that I lost my cheat sheet on how to do this, and I can't 
recall the process of saving the Frame file to this text-based format 
and back again. Been through the current Frame menus and the Adobe 
support postings with no luck.


Can anyone help? I'm in Frame 9 now.

Much appreciated...
~Tony

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RE: Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls

2010-07-13 Thread Lea Rush 
Hi Tony,

I don't know what you used before, but I strongly recommend using a *.mif
and something like Notepad 2 to do a Find and Replace All for *.tif to
*.gif. I did this myself a couple of days ago, and it saved me several hours
of changing cross-references manually. 

Good luck,
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 Subject: Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls
 
 Hello -- about five years ago I was given a method for converting all
 referenced graphic files in a Frame document from .tif to .gif format.
 (.gif works better for our purposes now.) The document I'm working on
 has thousands of .tifs, so an automated way to do this is needed. Our
 method involved saving/exporting the Frame document to some sort of
 text-based format where all of the graphic references were spelled out.
 (This was not .mif.) Then I could simply search for all .tif strings
 and replace them with .gif. After that I'd somehow save the file back
 into the standard Frame format. Then in Photoshop, I'd do a batch change
 of the .tifs to .gifs. Then opening the converted Frame document
 resulted in all the reference calls bringing up the new .gif images.
 The problem is that I lost my cheat sheet on how to do this, and I can't
 recall the process of saving the Frame file to this text-based format
 and back again. Been through the current Frame menus and the Adobe
 support postings with no luck.
 
 Can anyone help? I'm in Frame 9 now.
 
 Much appreciated...
 ~Tony
 
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RE: Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls

2010-07-13 Thread Combs, Richard 
Tony Marek wrote: 
 
 Hello -- about five years ago I was given a method for converting all
 referenced graphic files in a Frame document from .tif to .gif format.
 (.gif works better for our purposes now.) The document I'm working on
 has thousands of .tifs, so an automated way to do this is needed. Our
 method involved saving/exporting the Frame document to some sort of
 text-based format where all of the graphic references were spelled out.
 (This was not .mif.) Then I could simply search for all .tif strings
 and replace them with .gif. After that I'd somehow save the file back
 into the standard Frame format. Then in Photoshop, I'd do a batch change
 of the .tifs to .gifs. Then opening the converted Frame document
 resulted in all the reference calls bringing up the new .gif images.
 The problem is that I lost my cheat sheet on how to do this, and I can't
 recall the process of saving the Frame file to this text-based format
 and back again. Been through the current Frame menus and the Adobe
 support postings with no luck.
 
 Can anyone help? I'm in Frame 9 now.

If you're sure it wasn't MIF, then it must have been MML (Maker Markup 
Language). I believe FM 7.x was the last version to support that. Google 
framemaker mml if you're curious. 

But you can do exactly the same thing with MIF files, which like MML are plain 
ASCII text. Save a file as MIF, globally replace .tif with .gif, and save. Then 
open the MIF file with FM and save as FM. If you have large numbers of FM files 
to process, you can script this. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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RE: Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls

2010-07-13 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) 
 Save a file as MIF, globally replace .tif with .gif, and save.
 Then open the MIF file with FM and save as FM.
 If you have large numbers of FM files to process, you can script this. 

I also wrote/have a simple DOS command window program to change occurrences of 
text (no wildcards) in large numbers of files at a time. If anyone wants it, 
please send me an e-mail off-list.

Just please remember that not all matches (for example, to match .tif) may be 
what you expect ... :) Hence, one suggestion when using my program: make a copy 
of all the files elsewhere before you start. And, in verbose mode (one of the 
options to the program), my program will tell you all the changes it made. :)

Z

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Re: Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls

2010-07-13 Thread Scott Turner 

The alternative to making a script, is to use a full-featured text editor like 
TextPad. The feature you are looking for is the ability to search and replace 
through files in a directory, or open files. Oxygen is another text editor that 
can do this.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2010, at 14:47, Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com wrote:

 
 If you're sure it wasn't MIF, then it must have been MML (Maker Markup 
 Language). I believe FM 7.x was the last version to support that. Google 
 framemaker mml if you're curious. 
 
 But you can do exactly the same thing with MIF files, which like MML are 
 plain ASCII text. Save a file as MIF, globally replace .tif with .gif, and 
 save. Then open the MIF file with FM and save as FM. If you have large 
 numbers of FM files to process, you can script this. 
 
 HTH!
 
 Richard G. Combs
 Senior Technical Writer
 Polycom, Inc.
 richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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RE: Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls

2010-07-13 Thread Combs, Richard 
Scott Turner wrote: 
 
 The alternative to making a script, is to use a full-featured text editor
 like TextPad. The feature you are looking for is the ability to search and
 replace through files in a directory, or open files. Oxygen is another text
 editor that can do this.

But that doesn't address the problem of how to expeditiously save whole 
directories (or drives) of binary FM files as MIF. Or how, after running them 
through the edit process, to save all the modified MIF files back to binary FM. 
A FrameScript script would let you automate all three stages of the process 
(including invoking the editor of your choice to do the global replace). 


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RE: Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls

2010-07-13 Thread Rick Quatro 
It also doesn't address the issue of the import filter used to import the
graphic. There is an import filter property that determines the image type.
If you edit the mif file, you may have to edit this property as well as the
filename. With FrameScript, the script will be operating on the binary
FrameMaker files and can change the import filter property while changing
the filename. If you are interested in a FrameScript solution, please
contact me off-list. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com

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Scott Turner wrote: 
 
 The alternative to making a script, is to use a full-featured text editor
 like TextPad. The feature you are looking for is the ability to search and
 replace through files in a directory, or open files. Oxygen is another
text
 editor that can do this.

But that doesn't address the problem of how to expeditiously save whole
directories (or drives) of binary FM files as MIF. Or how, after running
them through the edit process, to save all the modified MIF files back to
binary FM. A FrameScript script would let you automate all three stages of
the process (including invoking the editor of your choice to do the global
replace). 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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Re: Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls

2010-07-13 Thread Scott Prentice 

Sorry .. jumping in late.

You might want to check out our FileTools plugin. It has a Process Files 
option that will export all files in a book as the specified file type 
(MIF for example), then it will run the specified command line on each 
of those files (could specify a Perl or other script), then it will 
import the resulting files back into the book and replace the original 
FM files (all from one command) ..


   http://leximation.com/tools/info/filetools.php

Only slight problem is that FileTools has not yet officially been 
updated for FM8 or FM9 (yes .. we're a bit behind, I know) .. but if you 
contact me directly, I can point you at a beta version that does mostly 
work with FM8/9. The Process Files command does work to do MIF-based 
search/replace processing (I just tested it).


The 30-day trial will let you validate that it does the job without 
needing to pay for it.


Let me know if you have any questions.

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892




Combs, Richard wrote:
Scott Turner wrote: 
 
  

The alternative to making a script, is to use a full-featured text editor
like TextPad. The feature you are looking for is the ability to search and
replace through files in a directory, or open files. Oxygen is another text
editor that can do this.



But that doesn't address the problem of how to expeditiously save whole directories (or drives) of binary FM files as MIF. Or how, after running them through the edit process, to save all the modified MIF files back to binary FM. A FrameScript script would let you automate all three stages of the process (including invoking the editor of your choice to do the global replace). 



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Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls

2010-07-13 Thread Tony Marek 
Hello -- about five years ago I was given a method for converting all 
referenced graphic files in a Frame document from .tif to .gif format. 
(.gif works better for our purposes now.) The document I'm working on 
has thousands of .tifs, so an automated way to do this is needed. Our 
method involved saving/exporting the Frame document to some sort of 
text-based format where all of the graphic references were spelled out. 
(This was not .mif.) Then I could simply search for all ".tif" strings 
and replace them with ".gif". After that I'd somehow save the file back 
into the standard Frame format. Then in Photoshop, I'd do a batch change 
of the .tifs to .gifs. Then opening the converted Frame document 
resulted in all the reference calls bringing up the new .gif images.  
The problem is that I lost my cheat sheet on how to do this, and I can't 
recall the process of saving the Frame file to this text-based format 
and back again. Been through the current Frame menus and the Adobe 
support postings with no luck.

Can anyone help? I'm in Frame 9 now.

Much appreciated...
~Tony

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Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls

2010-07-13 Thread Lea Rush 
Hi Tony,

I don't know what you used before, but I strongly recommend using a *.mif
and something like Notepad 2 to do a Find and Replace All for *.tif to
*.gif. I did this myself a couple of days ago, and it saved me several hours
of changing cross-references manually. 

Good luck,
Lea


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Astoria-Pacific International 
www.astoria-pacific.com
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fax:? 503-655-7367 
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> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tony Marek
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:51 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls
> 
> Hello -- about five years ago I was given a method for converting all
> referenced graphic files in a Frame document from .tif to .gif format.
> (.gif works better for our purposes now.) The document I'm working on
> has thousands of .tifs, so an automated way to do this is needed. Our
> method involved saving/exporting the Frame document to some sort of
> text-based format where all of the graphic references were spelled out.
> (This was not .mif.) Then I could simply search for all ".tif" strings
> and replace them with ".gif". After that I'd somehow save the file back
> into the standard Frame format. Then in Photoshop, I'd do a batch change
> of the .tifs to .gifs. Then opening the converted Frame document
> resulted in all the reference calls bringing up the new .gif images.
> The problem is that I lost my cheat sheet on how to do this, and I can't
> recall the process of saving the Frame file to this text-based format
> and back again. Been through the current Frame menus and the Adobe
> support postings with no luck.
> 
> Can anyone help? I'm in Frame 9 now.
> 
> Much appreciated...
> ~Tony
> 
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2010-07-13 Thread Combs, Richard 
Tony Marek wrote: 

> Hello -- about five years ago I was given a method for converting all
> referenced graphic files in a Frame document from .tif to .gif format.
> (.gif works better for our purposes now.) The document I'm working on
> has thousands of .tifs, so an automated way to do this is needed. Our
> method involved saving/exporting the Frame document to some sort of
> text-based format where all of the graphic references were spelled out.
> (This was not .mif.) Then I could simply search for all ".tif" strings
> and replace them with ".gif". After that I'd somehow save the file back
> into the standard Frame format. Then in Photoshop, I'd do a batch change
> of the .tifs to .gifs. Then opening the converted Frame document
> resulted in all the reference calls bringing up the new .gif images.
> The problem is that I lost my cheat sheet on how to do this, and I can't
> recall the process of saving the Frame file to this text-based format
> and back again. Been through the current Frame menus and the Adobe
> support postings with no luck.
> 
> Can anyone help? I'm in Frame 9 now.

If you're sure it wasn't MIF, then it must have been MML (Maker Markup 
Language). I believe FM 7.x was the last version to support that. Google 
"framemaker mml" if you're curious. 

But you can do exactly the same thing with MIF files, which like MML are plain 
ASCII text. Save a file as MIF, globally replace .tif with .gif, and save. Then 
open the MIF file with FM and save as FM. If you have large numbers of FM files 
to process, you can script this. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
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Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls

2010-07-13 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) 
> Save a file as MIF, globally replace .tif with .gif, and save.
> Then open the MIF file with FM and save as FM.
> If you have large numbers of FM files to process, you can script this. 

I also wrote/have a simple DOS command window program to change occurrences of 
text (no wildcards) in large numbers of files at a time. If anyone wants it, 
please send me an e-mail off-list.

Just please remember that not all matches (for example, to match ".tif") may be 
what you expect ... :) Hence, one suggestion when using my program: make a copy 
of all the files elsewhere before you start. And, in "verbose" mode (one of the 
options to the program), my program will tell you all the changes it made. :)

Z

Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls

2010-07-13 Thread Scott Turner 

The alternative to making a script, is to use a full-featured text editor like 
TextPad. The feature you are looking for is the ability to search and replace 
through files in a directory, or open files. Oxygen is another text editor that 
can do this.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2010, at 14:47, "Combs, Richard"  
wrote:

> 
> If you're sure it wasn't MIF, then it must have been MML (Maker Markup 
> Language). I believe FM 7.x was the last version to support that. Google 
> "framemaker mml" if you're curious. 
> 
> But you can do exactly the same thing with MIF files, which like MML are 
> plain ASCII text. Save a file as MIF, globally replace .tif with .gif, and 
> save. Then open the MIF file with FM and save as FM. If you have large 
> numbers of FM files to process, you can script this. 
> 
> HTH!
> 
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-903-6372
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2010-07-13 Thread Combs, Richard 
Scott Turner wrote: 

> The alternative to making a script, is to use a full-featured text editor
> like TextPad. The feature you are looking for is the ability to search and
> replace through files in a directory, or open files. Oxygen is another text
> editor that can do this.

But that doesn't address the problem of how to expeditiously save whole 
directories (or drives) of binary FM files as MIF. Or how, after running them 
through the edit process, to save all the modified MIF files back to binary FM. 
A FrameScript script would let you automate all three stages of the process 
(including invoking the editor of your choice to do the global replace). 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
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2010-07-13 Thread Rick Quatro 
It also doesn't address the issue of the import filter used to import the
graphic. There is an import filter property that determines the image type.
If you edit the mif file, you may have to edit this property as well as the
filename. With FrameScript, the script will be operating on the binary
FrameMaker files and can change the import filter property while changing
the filename. If you are interested in a FrameScript solution, please
contact me off-list. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com


Scott Turner wrote: 

> The alternative to making a script, is to use a full-featured text editor
> like TextPad. The feature you are looking for is the ability to search and
> replace through files in a directory, or open files. Oxygen is another
text
> editor that can do this.

But that doesn't address the problem of how to expeditiously save whole
directories (or drives) of binary FM files as MIF. Or how, after running
them through the edit process, to save all the modified MIF files back to
binary FM. A FrameScript script would let you automate all three stages of
the process (including invoking the editor of your choice to do the global
replace). 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
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2010-07-13 Thread Scott Prentice 
Sorry .. jumping in late.

You might want to check out our FileTools plugin. It has a Process Files 
option that will export all files in a book as the specified file type 
(MIF for example), then it will run the specified command line on each 
of those files (could specify a Perl or other script), then it will 
import the resulting files back into the book and replace the original 
FM files (all from one command) ..

http://leximation.com/tools/info/filetools.php

Only slight problem is that FileTools has not yet officially been 
updated for FM8 or FM9 (yes .. we're a bit behind, I know) .. but if you 
contact me directly, I can point you at a beta version that does mostly 
work with FM8/9. The Process Files command does work to do MIF-based 
search/replace processing (I just tested it).

The 30-day trial will let you validate that it does the job without 
needing to pay for it.

Let me know if you have any questions.

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892




Combs, Richard wrote:
> Scott Turner wrote: 
>  
>   
>> The alternative to making a script, is to use a full-featured text editor
>> like TextPad. The feature you are looking for is the ability to search and
>> replace through files in a directory, or open files. Oxygen is another text
>> editor that can do this.
>> 
>
> But that doesn't address the problem of how to expeditiously save whole 
> directories (or drives) of binary FM files as MIF. Or how, after running them 
> through the edit process, to save all the modified MIF files back to binary 
> FM. A FrameScript script would let you automate all three stages of the 
> process (including invoking the editor of your choice to do the global 
> replace). 
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
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> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-903-6372
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Batch Conversion of Frame Referenced Graphic Calls

2010-07-13 Thread Tony Marek 
Thanks, all.

I used Richard's suggestion of saving to .mif, then opening that file in 
a text editor and doing the ".tif" > ".gif" search/replace. I only have 
8 files, so no batch function was needed for that. Reopening the .mif 
files and saving back to .fm successfully converted all my reference 
calls. Then I found that SnagIt 8.1.0 has a batch conversion function 
that is activated from the MS Explorer window (select the files, 
right-click, SnagIt > Batch Convert Images). That converted my TIFFs to 
GIFs in about 20 seconds.

I appreciate all the input.

Cheers,
Tony

Combs, Richard wrote:
> Tony Marek wrote: 
>  
>   
>> Hello -- about five years ago I was given a method for converting all
>> referenced graphic files in a Frame document from .tif to .gif format.
>> (.gif works better for our purposes now.) The document I'm working on
>> has thousands of .tifs, so an automated way to do this is needed. Our
>> method involved saving/exporting the Frame document to some sort of
>> text-based format where all of the graphic references were spelled out.
>> (This was not .mif.) Then I could simply search for all ".tif" strings
>> and replace them with ".gif". After that I'd somehow save the file back
>> into the standard Frame format. Then in Photoshop, I'd do a batch change
>> of the .tifs to .gifs. Then opening the converted Frame document
>> resulted in all the reference calls bringing up the new .gif images.
>> The problem is that I lost my cheat sheet on how to do this, and I can't
>> recall the process of saving the Frame file to this text-based format
>> and back again. Been through the current Frame menus and the Adobe
>> support postings with no luck.
>>
>> Can anyone help? I'm in Frame 9 now.
>> 
>
> If you're sure it wasn't MIF, then it must have been MML (Maker Markup 
> Language). I believe FM 7.x was the last version to support that. Google 
> "framemaker mml" if you're curious. 
>
> But you can do exactly the same thing with MIF files, which like MML are 
> plain ASCII text. Save a file as MIF, globally replace .tif with .gif, and 
> save. Then open the MIF file with FM and save as FM. If you have large 
> numbers of FM files to process, you can script this. 
>
> HTH!
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-903-6372
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