Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Shlomo Perets]

Dov Isaacs wrote:

| The problem appears to be associated with not using the RGB option when
using 
| the "save as PDF" option.

| When you don't use the RGB option, FrameMaker uses the old UNIX FrameMaker

| PostScript generator instead of using the Windows PostScript driver via
GDI. 
| Apparently that UNIX PostScript generator code had some problems mapping
characters 
| in Rick's symbol font. It could have been a missing mapping table in the
font itself.


Since this CMYK support was introduced in FrameMaker 9, it was associated
with various problems in PDF outputs (seemingly unrelated to color).

In FrameMaker 9 (with all patches applied), having the CMYK option on still
transforms the standard Arial Narrow and Arial Black fonts to Times New
Roman in PDFs, and Palatino Linotype text becomes ornaments. This specific
problem was experienced with FrameMaker 10 as well (or possible even 11)l,
but was likely addressed with later patches. 

As a general practice with FM9 or later, unless you have a specific need for
CMYK PDFs (and take the time/effort to check the output), I highly recommend
turning ON "Convert CMYK Colors to RGB" in the Save as PDF dialog box (i.e.
have output generated in the FM8 or earlier mode).





Shlomo Perets



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Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Framers,

I have a FrameMaker 10 document that uses a custom TTF symbols font. The
symbols display fine in my FrameMaker document. When I Save As PDF, the
symbols become squares in the PDF. If I choose the Adobe PDF printer in
FrameMaker, make a .ps file and Distill it, the symbols come through fine. I
am using Distiller X. Any idea why the output would be different using Save
As versus .ps/Distill? Thanks in advance.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
r...@frameexpert.com






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RE: Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Robert,

I did select the Adobe PDF printer first, but still have the output problem.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:47 PM
To: Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS
and distill

Before you saved as PDF, did you forget to select the Adobe PDF printer?

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:
 Hi Framers,

 I have a FrameMaker 10 document that uses a custom TTF symbols font. 
 The symbols display fine in my FrameMaker document. When I Save As 
 PDF, the symbols become squares in the PDF. ...

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Re: Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Robert Lauriston]

Before you saved as PDF, did you forget to select the Adobe PDF printer?

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:
 Hi Framers,

 I have a FrameMaker 10 document that uses a custom TTF symbols font. The
 symbols display fine in my FrameMaker document. When I Save As PDF, the
 symbols become squares in the PDF. ...
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Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Framers,

I have a FrameMaker 10 document that uses a custom TTF symbols font. The
symbols display fine in my FrameMaker document. When I Save As PDF, the
symbols become squares in the PDF. If I choose the Adobe PDF printer in
FrameMaker, make a .ps file and Distill it, the symbols come through fine. I
am using Distiller X. Any idea why the output would be different using Save
As versus .ps/Distill? Thanks in advance.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com

Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Robert,

I did select the Adobe PDF printer first, but still have the output problem.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:47 PM
To: Rick Quatro; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS
and distill

Before you saved as PDF, did you forget to select the Adobe PDF printer?

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro  wrote:
> Hi Framers,
>
> I have a FrameMaker 10 document that uses a custom TTF symbols font. 
> The symbols display fine in my FrameMaker document. When I Save As 
> PDF, the symbols become squares in the PDF. ...

Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Robert Lauriston]

Before you saved as PDF, did you forget to select the Adobe PDF printer?

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro  wrote:
> Hi Framers,
>
> I have a FrameMaker 10 document that uses a custom TTF symbols font. The
> symbols display fine in my FrameMaker document. When I Save As PDF, the
> symbols become squares in the PDF. ...

Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Dov Isaacs]

Rick and I discussed this over the phone.

The problem appears to be associated with not using the RGB option when using 
the "save as PDF" option.

When you don't use the RGB option, FrameMaker uses the old UNIX FrameMaker 
PostScript generator instead of using the Windows PostScript driver via GDI. 
Apparently that UNIX PostScript generator code had some problems mapping 
characters in Rick's symbol font. It could have been a missing mapping table in 
the font itself.

- Dov

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Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 11:47 AM
To: Rick Quatro; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and 
distill


Before you saved as PDF, did you forget to select the Adobe PDF printer?



On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro mailto:rick at rickquatro.com>> wrote:

> Hi Framers,

>

> I have a FrameMaker 10 document that uses a custom TTF symbols font. The

> symbols display fine in my FrameMaker document. When I Save As PDF, the

> symbols become squares in the PDF. ...
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