FM 8 "Next pgf tag" having no effect...

2008-08-07 Thread Combs, Richard
Lin Sims wrote: 

> This seems to be a (semi) long standing issue with FM8, in that others
> have reported having problems with it: to be specific, when pressing
> return, FM ignores the Next Tag information and adds another line
> using the same tag.
> 
>  I ran into this issue last night. Since I didn't know that others had
> experienced it, I thought it was something weird with my installation
> and I reinstalled everything. Not something I really wanted to do!
> 
> The Adobe Forums thread
> (http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?128@@.3c059165) hasn't been updated
> since April.
> 
> I was wondering if anyone had found a fix or work around for this in
> the months since?

IIRC, the "workaround" is to type something in the first pgf before
pressing Enter. I believe it only behaves that way (maybe intentionally
so?) if the first pgf is empty. 

HTH!

Richard


Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
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FM 8 "Next pgf tag" having no effect...

2008-08-07 Thread Art Campbell
Are you patched to 8.0.4?

Art


On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Lin Sims  wrote:
> This seems to be a (semi) long standing issue with FM8, in that others
> have reported having problems with it: to be specific, when pressing
> return, FM ignores the Next Tag information and adds another line
> using the same tag.
>
>  I ran into this issue last night. Since I didn't know that others had
> experienced it, I thought it was something weird with my installation
> and I reinstalled everything. Not something I really wanted to do!
>
> The Adobe Forums thread
> (http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?128@@.3c059165) hasn't been updated
> since April.
>
> I was wondering if anyone had found a fix or work around for this in
> the months since?
>
> --
> Lin Sims
>
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FM 8 "Next pgf tag" having no effect...

2008-08-07 Thread Art Campbell
Lin,
p277 does take you to 8.0.4.
You can always check at
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22=Windows


On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Lin Sims  wrote:
> "About" only tells me that I've got 8.0p277. When I click Updates it
> tells me there aren't any available, so I'd guess I'm current.
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Art Campbell  
> wrote:
>> Are you patched to 8.0.4?
>>
>> Art
>



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FM 8 "Next pgf tag" having no effect...

2008-08-07 Thread Art Campbell
OK,
In any case, other people had reported that NextTag worked if there
was content in the paragraph when you press Enter. But if you were
just hitting Enter to create spaces, or to set up an empty but tagged
file, it didn't.
Does it make any difference on your system?

Art

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Art Campbell  wrote:
> Lin,
> p277 does take you to 8.0.4.
> You can always check at
> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22=Windows
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Lin Sims  wrote:
>> "About" only tells me that I've got 8.0p277. When I click Updates it
>> tells me there aren't any available, so I'd guess I'm current.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Art Campbell  
>> wrote:
>>> Are you patched to 8.0.4?
>>>
>>> Art
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>  DoD 358
>



-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358


FM 8 "Next pgf tag" having no effect...

2008-08-07 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Lin,

This was fixed with FM 8.04 (8.0p277).

In the Help menu click on Updates to download
and install it. If that does not work, you'll
find it on the Adobe web-site.

Best regards

Winfried

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> Subject: FM 8 "Next pgf tag" having no effect...
> 
> This seems to be a (semi) long standing issue with FM8, in that others
> have reported having problems with it: to be specific, when pressing
> return, FM ignores the Next Tag information and adds another line
> using the same tag.
> 
>  I ran into this issue last night. Since I didn't know that others had
> experienced it, I thought it was something weird with my installation
> and I reinstalled everything. Not something I really wanted to do!
> 
> The Adobe Forums thread
> (http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?128@@.3c059165) hasn't been updated
> since April.
> 
> I was wondering if anyone had found a fix or work around for this in
> the months since?
> 
> -- 
> Lin Sims


FM 8 "Next pgf tag" having no effect...

2008-08-07 Thread Lin Sims
This seems to be a (semi) long standing issue with FM8, in that others
have reported having problems with it: to be specific, when pressing
return, FM ignores the Next Tag information and adds another line
using the same tag.

 I ran into this issue last night. Since I didn't know that others had
experienced it, I thought it was something weird with my installation
and I reinstalled everything. Not something I really wanted to do!

The Adobe Forums thread
(http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?128@@.3c059165) hasn't been updated
since April.

I was wondering if anyone had found a fix or work around for this in
the months since?

-- 
Lin Sims


FM 8 "Next pgf tag" having no effect...

2008-08-07 Thread Lin Sims
You want something even MORE odd? The exact same document (as in, it's
stored on a thumb drive that I access directly for this) has this
issue on my home machine but works perfectly on my office machine. And
the day before yesterday, it worked at home, too!

Both machines have Frame 8.0 p277, on Windows XP SP3. It's in
Structured View, but I'm not using elements or anything, just standard
tags. As far as I can tell, this has no effect on what I'm doing since
I'm not inserting any elements or attributes.

I round-tripped the document through MIF to no avail.

As to set up: I created the first tag in Paragraph Designer, pressed
return, created the second tag in Paragraph Designer, pulled the
definition for the first tag up, and selected the Next Pgf Tag box and
chose the second paragraph tag's name from the drop-down list. This is
pretty much how I do it every time I want a specific paragraph tag to
follow. (I generally don't have text there because the issue cropped
up in a template I'm currently creating.)

FYI, I have the following plugins installed:

Archive
AutoText
EZVars 3.02
Sourcerer
PGF_Whopper
TOC Breaker
RefIcons
CudSpan Doc Tools
Paragraph Tools

When I get home, I'll try Richard's work around and report back.

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Sean Brierley  
wrote:
> How odd, because I just tested with empty paragraphs and the next tag
> feature continues to work correctly for me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sean
>
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> Subject: RE: FM 8 "Next pgf tag" having no effect...
>
>
> Lin Sims wrote:
>
>> This seems to be a (semi) long standing issue with FM8, in that others
>
>> have reported having problems with it: to be specific, when pressing
>> return, FM ignores the Next Tag information and adds another line
>> using the same tag.
>>
>>  I ran into this issue last night. Since I didn't know that others had
>
>> experienced it, I thought it was something weird with my installation
>> and I reinstalled everything. Not something I really wanted to do!
>>
>> The Adobe Forums thread
>> (http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?128@@.3c059165) hasn't been updated
>> since April.
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone had found a fix or work around for this in
>> the months since?
>
> IIRC, the "workaround" is to type something in the first pgf before
> pressing Enter. I believe it only behaves that way (maybe intentionally
> so?) if the first pgf is empty.
>
> HTH!
>
> Richard
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
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> 303-777-0436
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>
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UPDATE: Re: FM 8 "Next pgf tag" having no effect...

2008-08-07 Thread Lin Sims
It took a complete, and I do mean complete, reinstall from CD and all
the patchers, but things are now working as they're supposed to. All I
can think is that, somehow, the installation was bad.

Thanks to all for their suggestions, and my apologies if at some point
I seemed to get a bit testy at the end. Computer problems do that to
me, sometimes, when they don't seem to respond to logic.

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Lin Sims  wrote:
> I have already installed this update. I am still getting the error.
> But only on my home computer. The work computer is fine.
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried  
> wrote:
>> Hi Lin,
>>
>> This was fixed with FM 8.04 (8.0p277).
>>
>> In the Help menu click on Updates to download
>> and install it. If that does not work, you'll
>> find it on the Adobe web-site.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Winfried