Filepaths (was Re: Mif2Go graphics question)

2009-09-11 Thread Les Smalley
Never, really?  Only letters and digits?  

Since I started in the Unix world (oh so long ago), I personally hate the use 
of spaces in file names and directory paths, but have always used an underscore 
in its place if really necessary to help clarify the name.  Extra periods also 
can be used, it just looks awkward to my eyes.

The plus  symbol is  very dangerous as you point out, and although legal I 
don't like using a minus (hyphen) either (as it looks too much like the unix 
command/param switch to me).  Quotes and apostrophes are a disaster IMO as well.

Just my $0.02  

– Les Smalley

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Jeremy H. Griffith jer...@omsys.com wrote:


The next thing I'd do to diagnose is open a Command Prompt window,
enter the commands we use by hand, and see if any problem appears:

cd C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMS+OmniHelp\MEMSplus
copy /Y C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus\*.jpg
copy /Y C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus\*.gif

See if the files are really copied this time.  If not, the path is wrong.  
But I suspect they will be copied.  When we do the copy, we add 
one more part, the destination path, to each copy:

  C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMS+OmniHelp\MEMSplus

Why would that be a problem?  Because + has a meaning to the
copy command, and will make the whole line mean something else.
That is why you should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER use any characters
in a file or path name other than letters and digits...

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  jer...@omsys.com  http://www.omsys.com/



  
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Re: Filepaths (was Re: Mif2Go graphics question)

2009-09-11 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:05:05 -0700 (PDT), Les Smalley 
l_c_smal...@yahoo.com wrote:

Never, really?  Only letters and digits?  

Yes.  There are a few more that you can use under most (but not all(
circumstances, and several that only bollix one or two commands, but
nobody can remember which ones thay are.  ;-)  So the only *safe*
rule is to use none at all.  That, people *can* remember.  ;-)

Since I started in the Unix world (oh so long ago), I personally 
hate the use of spaces in file names and directory paths, 

Yes.  Those are not fully supported in Frame either, despite claims
to the contrary, probably because of Frame's UNIX roots.

but have always used an underscore in its place if really necessary 
to help clarify the name.  

Some UNIX systems will object, and if they turn up in a CHM's TOC
you will have problems, but otherwise they are reasonably safe.

Personally, I prefer CamelCase; it's harmless in Windows (where
file and path names are case-insensitive), and OK in UNIX (which
*is* case-sensitive, as in Web names) if you use it consistently.

Extra periods also can be used, it just looks awkward to my eyes.

It can also throw some applications that check extensions off,
but, again, it's *mostly* safe.  ;-)

The plus  symbol is  very dangerous as you point out, and although 
legal I don't like using a minus (hyphen) either (as it looks too 
much like the unix command/param switch to me).  

It *is* the switchchar, and is even accepted as that in Windows.

Quotes and apostrophes are a disaster IMO as well.

Yes, and commas, and much more.  Which is why I say, Avoid them all!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  jer...@omsys.com  http://www.omsys.com/
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Filepaths (was Re: Mif2Go graphics question)

2009-09-11 Thread Les Smalley
Never, really?? Only letters and digits?? 

Since I started in the Unix world (oh so long ago), I personally hate the use 
of spaces in file names and directory paths, but have always used an underscore 
in its place if really necessary to help clarify the name.? Extra periods also 
can be used, it just looks awkward to my eyes.

The plus  symbol is  very dangerous as you point out, and although legal I 
don't like using a minus (hyphen) either (as it looks too much like the unix 
command/param switch to me).? Quotes and apostrophes are a disaster IMO as well.

Just my $0.02? 

? Les Smalley

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Jeremy H. Griffith  wrote:


The next thing I'd do to diagnose is open a Command Prompt window,
enter the commands we use by hand, and see if any problem appears:

cd C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMS+OmniHelp\MEMSplus
copy /Y "C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus\*.jpg"
copy /Y "C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus\*.gif"

See if the files are really copied this time.? If not, the path is wrong.? 
But I suspect they will be copied.? When we do the copy, we add 
one more part, the destination path, to each copy:

? C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMS+OmniHelp\MEMSplus

Why would that be a problem?? Because "+" has a meaning to the
copy command, and will make the whole line mean something else.
That is why you should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER use any characters
in a file or path name other than letters and digits...

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
? ? http://www.omsys.com/






Filepaths (was Re: Mif2Go graphics question)

2009-09-11 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:05:05 -0700 (PDT), Les Smalley 
 wrote:

>Never, really?? Only letters and digits?? 

Yes.  There are a few more that you can use under most (but not all(
circumstances, and several that only bollix one or two commands, but
nobody can remember which ones thay are.  ;-)  So the only *safe*
rule is to use none at all.  That, people *can* remember.  ;-)

>Since I started in the Unix world (oh so long ago), I personally 
>hate the use of spaces in file names and directory paths, 

Yes.  Those are not fully supported in Frame either, despite claims
to the contrary, probably because of Frame's UNIX roots.

>but have always used an underscore in its place if really necessary 
>to help clarify the name.? 

Some UNIX systems will object, and if they turn up in a CHM's TOC
you will have problems, but otherwise they are reasonably safe.

Personally, I prefer CamelCase; it's harmless in Windows (where
file and path names are case-insensitive), and OK in UNIX (which
*is* case-sensitive, as in Web names) if you use it consistently.

>Extra periods also can be used, it just looks awkward to my eyes.

It can also throw some applications that check extensions off,
but, again, it's *mostly* safe.  ;-)

>The plus  symbol is  very dangerous as you point out, and although 
>legal I don't like using a minus (hyphen) either (as it looks too 
>much like the unix command/param switch to me).? 

It *is* the switchchar, and is even accepted as that in Windows.

>Quotes and apostrophes are a disaster IMO as well.

Yes, and commas, and much more.  Which is why I say, "Avoid them all!"

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/