FrameMaker Server "User Interface"??
Hi Randy, Don't overlook FrameScript as an automation tool for FrameMaker Server development. FrameScript is only $149 per seat (http://www.framescript.com). Even adding the cost of custom scripts, your total investment can be a fraction of what some of the other products cost. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com A few years ago, we installed a server-based version of Frame: No documentation, little product knowledge on the part of the Adobe customer service folks. Now, new company, same need. This time, our IT department tells us that we need "software programming to build the interface for the control/security/access features." to the tune of $25,000 worth of software programming consultant time. This floored me since the last time it was a single CD that a one-person IT department installed in a few hours. Has the Server version changed? And the Adobe site says that Server needs a companion and "must be integrated into a solution before it is ready for use. You can either purchase third-part solutions (From Datazone or Finite Matters Limited) or you can build your own solution using Frame Developers Kit." I don't recall us using FDK or third-party solution before. What experiences do other Listers have for FM Server? TIA, Randy
Re: FrameMaker Server "User Interface"??
Hi Randy, Don't overlook FrameScript as an automation tool for FrameMaker Server development. FrameScript is only $149 per seat (http://www.framescript.com). Even adding the cost of custom scripts, your total investment can be a fraction of what some of the other products cost. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com A few years ago, we installed a server-based version of Frame: No documentation, little product knowledge on the part of the Adobe customer service folks. Now, new company, same need. This time, our IT department tells us that we need "software programming to build the interface for the control/security/access features." to the tune of $25,000 worth of software programming consultant time. This floored me since the last time it was a single CD that a one-person IT department installed in a few hours. Has the Server version changed? And the Adobe site says that Server needs a companion and "must be integrated into a solution before it is ready for use. You can either purchase third-part solutions (From Datazone or Finite Matters Limited) or you can build your own solution using Frame Developers Kit." I don't recall us using FDK or third-party solution before. What experiences do other Listers have for FM Server? TIA, Randy ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker Server "User Interface"??
No change to the FrameMaker Server product, but obviously your IT department is trying to setup a workflow beyond that which your previous company implemented (even if the base "need" is perceived to be the same). - Dov > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com] > On Behalf Of Randall C. Reed > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 3:43 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: FrameMaker Server "User Interface"?? > > A few years ago, we installed a server-based version of Frame: No > documentation, little product knowledge on the part of the Adobe > customer service folks. Now, new company, same need. This time, our IT > department tells us that we need "software programming to build the > interface for the control/security/access features." to the tune of > $25,000 worth of software programming consultant time. This floored me > since the last time it was a single CD that a one-person IT department > installed in a few hours. > Has the Server version changed? > And the Adobe site says that Server needs a companion and "must be > integrated into a solution before it is ready for use. You can either > purchase third-part solutions (From Datazone or Finite > Matters Limited) > or you can build your own solution using Frame Developers Kit." > I don't recall us using FDK or third-party solution before. What > experiences do other Listers have for FM Server? > TIA, > > Randy
RE: FrameMaker Server "User Interface"??
No change to the FrameMaker Server product, but obviously your IT department is trying to setup a workflow beyond that which your previous company implemented (even if the base "need" is perceived to be the same). - Dov > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Randall C. Reed > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 3:43 PM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: FrameMaker Server "User Interface"?? > > A few years ago, we installed a server-based version of Frame: No > documentation, little product knowledge on the part of the Adobe > customer service folks. Now, new company, same need. This time, our IT > department tells us that we need "software programming to build the > interface for the control/security/access features." to the tune of > $25,000 worth of software programming consultant time. This floored me > since the last time it was a single CD that a one-person IT department > installed in a few hours. > Has the Server version changed? > And the Adobe site says that Server needs a companion and "must be > integrated into a solution before it is ready for use. You can either > purchase third-part solutions (From Datazone or Finite > Matters Limited) > or you can build your own solution using Frame Developers Kit." > I don't recall us using FDK or third-party solution before. What > experiences do other Listers have for FM Server? > TIA, > > Randy ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker Server "User Interface"??
> this floored me since the last time it > was a single CD that a one-person IT > department installed in a few hours. > Has the Server version changed? No, it hasn't changed. There are still things you can do with it pretty much as is, although the "server" form is just a license, (the software on the cd is identical between "server" and "desktop"!); expense will depend on which you choose from the many "server side" ways you can use Frame. It is possible to spend as much as you like on front end systems, or you can use it via free tools like DZBatcher, plugins you write yourself, whatever. > And the Adobe site says that Server needs > a companion and "must be integrated into > a solution before it is ready for use. > You can either purchase third-party > solutions (From Datazone or Finite Matters > Limited) or you can build your own solution > using Frame Developers Kit." We have used it extensively with Miramo, and via home-built plugins, and with DZ Batcher. There are many ways to use it as a "server" and I could never figure out from the license the fine line between "server usage" of FrameMaker, though in our case it is usually a back end system for Web PDF generation, which was pretty obvious. Miramo was worth it in some cases for scalability/ease of administration, though other solutions cost very little, yet had more time/effort or were simply less demanding. Hopefully with the next FrameMaker they will do something to differentiate server from desktop, and offer some sort of jump start. $25,000 would not be unreasonable for a robust plugin that would let you leverage FrameMaker as a server more directly, but that should be the sort of investment Adobe makes in the product, not each shop has to ante up, and there are also plenty of alternatives. If you do end up with Frame Server then in purchasing it, there sure is a better deal with an upgrade from "desktop" than an outright purchase... Max Dunn Silicon Publishing IMPORTANT NOTICE: This communication, including any attachment, contains information that may be confidential or privileged, and is intended solely for the entity or individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message is strictly prohibited. Nothing in this email, including any attachment, is intended to be a legally binding signature. If you have received this information in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or return e-mail and delete this information from your mailbox. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker Server "User Interface"??
> this floored me since the last time it > was a single CD that a one-person IT > department installed in a few hours. > Has the Server version changed? No, it hasn't changed. There are still things you can do with it pretty much as is, although the "server" form is just a license, (the software on the cd is identical between "server" and "desktop"!); expense will depend on which you choose from the many "server side" ways you can use Frame. It is possible to spend as much as you like on front end systems, or you can use it via free tools like DZBatcher, plugins you write yourself, whatever. > And the Adobe site says that Server needs > a companion and "must be integrated into > a solution before it is ready for use. > You can either purchase third-party > solutions (From Datazone or Finite Matters > Limited) or you can build your own solution > using Frame Developers Kit." We have used it extensively with Miramo, and via home-built plugins, and with DZ Batcher. There are many ways to use it as a "server" and I could never figure out from the license the fine line between "server usage" of FrameMaker, though in our case it is usually a back end system for Web PDF generation, which was pretty obvious. Miramo was worth it in some cases for scalability/ease of administration, though other solutions cost very little, yet had more time/effort or were simply less demanding. Hopefully with the next FrameMaker they will do something to differentiate server from desktop, and offer some sort of jump start. $25,000 would not be unreasonable for a robust plugin that would let you leverage FrameMaker as a server more directly, but that should be the sort of investment Adobe makes in the product, not each shop has to ante up, and there are also plenty of alternatives. If you do end up with Frame Server then in purchasing it, there sure is a better deal with an upgrade from "desktop" than an outright purchase... Max Dunn Silicon Publishing IMPORTANT NOTICE: This communication, including any attachment, contains information that may be confidential or privileged, and is intended solely for the entity or individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message is strictly prohibited. Nothing in this email, including any attachment, is intended to be a legally binding signature. If you have received this information in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or return e-mail and delete this information from your mailbox. Thank you.
FrameMaker Server "User Interface"??
A few years ago, we installed a server-based version of Frame: No documentation, little product knowledge on the part of the Adobe customer service folks. Now, new company, same need. This time, our IT department tells us that we need "software programming to build the interface for the control/security/access features." to the tune of $25,000 worth of software programming consultant time. This floored me since the last time it was a single CD that a one-person IT department installed in a few hours. Has the Server version changed? And the Adobe site says that Server needs a companion and "must be integrated into a solution before it is ready for use. You can either purchase third-part solutions (From Datazone or Finite Matters Limited) or you can build your own solution using Frame Developers Kit." I don't recall us using FDK or third-party solution before. What experiences do other Listers have for FM Server? TIA, Randy This material contains confidential and proprietary information of Force Protection, Inc. and its subsidiaries. Copying this material or disclosing such information to others without the Company's prior consent is prohibited. This material may also contain technical data relating to a "Defense Article" within the meaning of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (22 CFR Part 120). The transfer or disclosure of this information to any non-U.S. person or company without any required export license approved by the United States Department of State, Directorate of Defense Trade Controls may be prohibited under federal law. Force Protection Industries, Inc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker Server "User Interface"??
A few years ago, we installed a server-based version of Frame: No documentation, little product knowledge on the part of the Adobe customer service folks. Now, new company, same need. This time, our IT department tells us that we need "software programming to build the interface for the control/security/access features." to the tune of $25,000 worth of software programming consultant time. This floored me since the last time it was a single CD that a one-person IT department installed in a few hours. Has the Server version changed? And the Adobe site says that Server needs a companion and "must be integrated into a solution before it is ready for use. You can either purchase third-part solutions (From Datazone or Finite Matters Limited) or you can build your own solution using Frame Developers Kit." I don't recall us using FDK or third-party solution before. What experiences do other Listers have for FM Server? TIA, Randy This material contains confidential and proprietary information of Force Protection, Inc. and its subsidiaries. Copying this material or disclosing such information to others without the Company's prior consent is prohibited. This material may also contain technical data relating to a "Defense Article" within the meaning of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (22 CFR Part 120). The transfer or disclosure of this information to any non-U.S. person or company without any required export license approved by the United States Department of State, Directorate of Defense Trade Controls may be prohibited under federal law. Force Protection Industries, Inc.
