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Importing Math Equations from Word 2010

2012-06-20 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
We have math equations that we get from the engineers in MS Word docsuments.
We usually need to copy these equations into our unstructured FM files for the 
customer.
We're currently on Win7 OS and FM10.

-When we copy equations from Word docs (that were created in Word 2003, 
then saved as Word 2010), into FM (Special PasteEmbedded Object), then all is 
fine and you can double click the equation, open it and continue to edit as a 
Word object if needed. I'm assuming these equations were written using Math 
Type or Equation Editor 3.0

-However, when we import equations from Word files originally created 
in Word 2010 (it seems Word has its own equation editor), then when importing 
(Special PasteEmbeded Document Word Microsoft Object ) into FM, then we get 
loads of question marks and H's as opposed to the equation. If we double click 
on the equation, it opens properly in Word 2010. Saving the page as PDF shows 
only the question marks.

Using any of the other special paste options turns the equation into an image.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to get the equation to show properly in FM?

Thanks,
Orly.

Orly Zimmerman, Marvell Israel - Technical Communicator
Park Azorim, Kyriat Arie
Petah Tikva, 49527, Israel
Email: or...@marvell.commailto:or...@marvell.com
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Re: Importing Math Equations from Word 2010

2012-06-20 Thread Kenneth C. Benson

In my experience using Mathtype to connect various versions of Word with 
various DTP apps (including Frame), the only reliable way to reproduce 
equations is to paste them into Illustrator, fix the problems, export 
each equation as EPS (or AI), and import each equation into the DTP app.


This is slow and painful, but OLE is worse.

Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type
www.pegtype.com


On 6/20/2012 4:40 AM, Orly Zimmerman wrote:


HI All,

We have math equations that we get from the engineers in MS Word 
docsuments.


We usually need to copy these equations into our unstructured FM files 
for the customer.


We're currently on Win7 OS and FM10.

-When we copy equations from Word docs (that were created in Word 
2003, then saved as Word 2010), into FM (Special PasteEmbedded 
Object), then all is fine and you can double click the equation, open 
it and continue to edit as a Word object if needed. I'm assuming these 
equations were written using Math Type or Equation Editor 3.0


-However, when we import equations from Word files originally created 
in Word 2010 (it seems Word has its own equation editor), then when 
importing (Special PasteEmbeded Document Word Microsoft Object ) into 
FM, then we get loads of question marks and H's as opposed to the 
equation. If we double click on the equation, it opens properly in 
Word 2010. Saving the page as PDF shows only the question marks.


Using any of the other special paste options turns the equation into 
an image.


Does anyone have any ideas on how to get the equation to show properly 
in FM?


Thanks,

Orly.



Orly Zimmerman, Marvell Israel - Technical Communicator
Park Azorim, Kyriat Arie
Petah Tikva, 49527, Israel
Email: or...@marvell.com mailto:or...@marvell.com
Office: +972.3.9703440 - OnNet: 705.3440
Fax: +972.3.9704908
Web site: http://www.marvell.com http://www.marvell.com/

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RE: Importing Math Equations from Word 2010

2012-06-20 Thread Fred Ridder


But note that MS Word only used an equation editor based on Mathtytpe through 
Word 2003. In Word 2007 MS introduced an all new, designed in house eqution 
tool that is has some resemblance to TeX in both syntax and capabilities. The 
new tool is used as the default, with the old editor included in the Word 
environment to allow recent versions of Word to open legacy documents. The 
documents Orly has that started life in Word 2003 would still contain equations 
made with the old Mathtype-based tool, while documents that originated in Word 
2007 or 2010 would have equations in the new format.
 
In either case, if you have either the Standard or Professional version of 
Acrobat installed on your system, it is relatively easy to use Word's print 
selection capability and the Adobe PDF virtual printer to make a PDF of the 
just a selected equation, and PDF works beautifully as a FrameMaker graphics 
import format. I usually find it preferable to crop away the whitespace in 
Acrobat (although Adobe did a *really* good job of hiding this capability from 
the user in Acrobat X...) so that I can just import the PDF as-is into Frame.
 
-Fred Ridder
 



Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:12:20 -0400
From: kben...@pegtype.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Importing Math Equations from Word 2010

In my experience using Mathtype to connect various versions of Word with 
various DTP apps (including Frame), the only reliable way to reproduce 
equations is to paste them into Illustrator, fix the problems, export each 
equation as EPS (or AI), and import each equation into the DTP app.

This is slow and painful, but OLE is worse.
Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type
www.pegtype.com
On 6/20/2012 4:40 AM, Orly Zimmerman wrote: 






HI All, 
We have math equations that we get from the engineers in MS Word docsuments. 
We usually need to copy these equations into our unstructured FM files for the 
customer.
We’re currently on Win7 OS and FM10. 
-When we copy equations from Word docs (that were created in Word 2003, 
then saved as Word 2010), into FM (Special PasteEmbedded Object), then all is 
fine and you can double click the equation, open it and continue to edit as a 
Word object if needed. I’m assuming these equations were written using Math 
Type or Equation Editor 3.0
-However, when we import equations from Word files originally created 
in Word 2010 (it seems Word has its own equation editor), then when importing 
(Special PasteEmbeded Document Word Microsoft Object ) into FM, then we get 
loads of question marks and H’s as opposed to the equation. If we double click 
on the equation, it opens properly in Word 2010. Saving the page as PDF shows 
only the question marks. 
 
Using any of the other special paste options turns the equation into an image.
 
Does anyone have any ideas on how to get the equation to show properly in FM? 


Thanks,
Orly.



Orly Zimmerman, Marvell Israel - Technical Communicator
Park Azorim, Kyriat Arie
Petah Tikva, 49527, Israel
Email: or...@marvell.com
Office: +972.3.9703440 - OnNet: 705.3440
Fax: +972.3.9704908
Web site: http://www.marvell.com 
 
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Importing Math Equations from Word 2010

2012-06-20 Thread Orly Zimmerman

HI All,
We have math equations that we get from the engineers in MS Word docsuments.
We usually need to copy these equations into our unstructured FM files for the 
customer.
We're currently on Win7 OS and FM10.

-When we copy equations from Word docs (that were created in Word 2003, 
then saved as Word 2010), into FM (Special Paste>Embedded Object), then all is 
fine and you can double click the equation, open it and continue to edit as a 
Word object if needed. I'm assuming these equations were written using Math 
Type or Equation Editor 3.0

-However, when we import equations from Word files originally created 
in Word 2010 (it seems Word has its own equation editor), then when importing 
(Special Paste>Embeded Document Word Microsoft Object ) into FM, then we get 
loads of question marks and H's as opposed to the equation. If we double click 
on the equation, it opens properly in Word 2010. Saving the page as PDF shows 
only the question marks.

Using any of the other special paste options turns the equation into an image.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to get the equation to show properly in FM?

Thanks,
Orly.

Orly Zimmerman, Marvell Israel - Technical Communicator
Park Azorim, Kyriat Arie
Petah Tikva, 49527, Israel
Email: orlyz at marvell.com
Office: +972.3.9703440 - OnNet: 705.3440
Fax: +972.3.9704908
Web site: http://www.marvell.com

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Importing Math Equations from Word 2010

2012-06-20 Thread Kenneth C. Benson

In my experience using Mathtype to connect various versions of Word with 
various DTP apps (including Frame), the only reliable way to reproduce 
equations is to paste them into Illustrator, fix the problems, export 
each equation as EPS (or AI), and import each equation into the DTP app.

This is slow and painful, but OLE is worse.

Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type
www.pegtype.com


On 6/20/2012 4:40 AM, Orly Zimmerman wrote:
>
> HI All,
>
> We have math equations that we get from the engineers in MS Word 
> docsuments.
>
> We usually need to copy these equations into our unstructured FM files 
> for the customer.
>
> We're currently on Win7 OS and FM10.
>
> -When we copy equations from Word docs (that were created in Word 
> 2003, then saved as Word 2010), into FM (Special Paste>Embedded 
> Object), then all is fine and you can double click the equation, open 
> it and continue to edit as a Word object if needed. I'm assuming these 
> equations were written using Math Type or Equation Editor 3.0
>
> -However, when we import equations from Word files originally created 
> in Word 2010 (it seems Word has its own equation editor), then when 
> importing (Special Paste>Embeded Document Word Microsoft Object ) into 
> FM, then we get loads of question marks and H's as opposed to the 
> equation. If we double click on the equation, it opens properly in 
> Word 2010. Saving the page as PDF shows only the question marks.
>
> Using any of the other special paste options turns the equation into 
> an image.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas on how to get the equation to show properly 
> in FM?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Orly.
>
> 
>
> Orly Zimmerman, Marvell Israel - Technical Communicator
> Park Azorim, Kyriat Arie
> Petah Tikva, 49527, Israel
> Email: orlyz at marvell.com 
> Office: +972.3.9703440 - OnNet: 705.3440
> Fax: +972.3.9704908
> Web site: http://www.marvell.com 
>
> This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally 
> privileged information. The information is intended only for the use 
> of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message 
> is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any 
> dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is 
> strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, 
> please notify us immediately by telephone or by e-mail and delete the 
> message from your computer.
>
> 
>
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2012-06-20 Thread Fred Ridder


But note that MS Word only used an equation editor based on Mathtytpe through 
Word 2003. In Word 2007 MS introduced an all new, designed in house eqution 
tool that is has some resemblance to TeX in both syntax and capabilities. The 
new tool is used as the default, with the old editor included in the Word 
environment to allow recent versions of Word to open legacy documents. The 
documents Orly has that started life in Word 2003 would still contain equations 
made with the old Mathtype-based tool, while documents that originated in Word 
2007 or 2010 would have equations in the new format.

In either case, if you have either the Standard or Professional version of 
Acrobat installed on your system, it is relatively easy to use Word's "print 
selection" capability and the Adobe PDF virtual printer to make a PDF of the 
just a selected equation, and PDF works beautifully as a FrameMaker graphics 
import format. I usually find it preferable to crop away the whitespace in 
Acrobat (although Adobe did a *really* good job of hiding this capability from 
the user in Acrobat X...) so that I can just import the PDF as-is into Frame.

-Fred Ridder




Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:12:20 -0400
From: kben...@pegtype.com
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Importing Math Equations from Word 2010

In my experience using Mathtype to connect various versions of Word with 
various DTP apps (including Frame), the only reliable way to reproduce 
equations is to paste them into Illustrator, fix the problems, export each 
equation as EPS (or AI), and import each equation into the DTP app.

This is slow and painful, but OLE is worse.
Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type
www.pegtype.com
On 6/20/2012 4:40 AM, Orly Zimmerman wrote: 






HI All, 
We have math equations that we get from the engineers in MS Word docsuments. 
We usually need to copy these equations into our unstructured FM files for the 
customer.
We?re currently on Win7 OS and FM10. 
-When we copy equations from Word docs (that were created in Word 2003, 
then saved as Word 2010), into FM (Special Paste>Embedded Object), then all is 
fine and you can double click the equation, open it and continue to edit as a 
Word object if needed. I?m assuming these equations were written using Math 
Type or Equation Editor 3.0
-However, when we import equations from Word files originally created 
in Word 2010 (it seems Word has its own equation editor), then when importing 
(Special Paste>Embeded Document Word Microsoft Object ) into FM, then we get 
loads of question marks and H?s as opposed to the equation. If we double click 
on the equation, it opens properly in Word 2010. Saving the page as PDF shows 
only the question marks. 

Using any of the other special paste options turns the equation into an image.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to get the equation to show properly in FM? 


Thanks,
Orly.



Orly Zimmerman, Marvell Israel - Technical Communicator
Park Azorim, Kyriat Arie
Petah Tikva, 49527, Israel
Email: orlyz at marvell.com
Office: +972.3.9703440 - OnNet: 705.3440
Fax: +972.3.9704908
Web site: http://www.marvell.com 

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