Re: OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-07 Thread Robert Lauriston 
http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=mfid

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Alison Craig
alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:
 I don’t use InDesign at all, so can someone tell me if it’s possible to open
 FM9 files in InDesign?
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RE: OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-07 Thread Rick Quatro 
Sorry to keep the topic going, but I can't resist:

Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a
tree of life (Proverbs 13:12).

Rick

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Subject: Re: OT: FM and InDesign

On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:29:48 -0800, Alison Craig
 alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:

We can live in hope! ;-)))

I said in my soul, be still, and wait without hope For hope would be for the
wrong thing; wait without love For love would be love of the wrong thing;
there is yet faith But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the
waiting; Wait without thought, for you are not ready for thought: 
So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing.
  --T. S. Eliot, in The Four Quartets

;-)

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  jer...@omsys.comhttp://mif2go.com/
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Re: OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-07 Thread Tori Muir 


  
  
Yeah, but since this is Adobe we're talking about:

He that lives upon hope will die fasting -- Benjamin
  Franklin

Tori Muir
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www.spot-on-creative.com



On 3/7/13 8:23 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:

  Sorry to keep the "topic" going, but I can't resist:

Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a
tree of life (Proverbs 13:12).

Rick

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Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:57 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: FM and InDesign

On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:29:48 -0800, Alison Craig

  
alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:

  
  

  
We can live in hope! ;-)))

  
  
I said in my soul, be still, and wait without hope For hope would be for the
wrong thing; wait without love For love would be love of the wrong thing;
there is yet faith But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the
waiting; Wait without thought, for you are not ready for thought: 
So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing.
  --T. S. Eliot, in The Four Quartets

;-)

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  jer...@omsys.comhttp://mif2go.com/
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OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-07 Thread Heiko Haida 


Hello Alison, 

I don't know of any direct way of importing or
converting within the Adobe products. 

But I recently converted some
FrameMaker mif files to Indesign with the "Mif Filter"-plugin for
Indesign (by dtptools). 

After installing the plugin, mifs will be
visible in the Indesign "open file" dialog and can be opened (but not
saved or otherwise exported), allowing to test the plugin resp. the
files for suitability. If you want to convert, i.e. if you want to save
as Indesign file(s), you have to buy credits on a per-page basis.


There are some limitations due to conceptual differences between
FrameMaker and Indesign layouts, but I found it extremely useful, so you
should give it a try. 

Make sure you are not using to many local format
overrides because each of these will produce new formats like eg.
body001, body002, ...
So it pays off to prepare the FrameMaker files
thoroughly. 

More informations: -->
http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=mfid=features 

Best regards
- 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin (Germany) 

Alison Craig: 

> I don't use
InDesign at all, so can someone tell me if it's possible to open FM9
files in InDesign? 
> 
> I'm hoping as they're both Adobe products,
there's some kind of support. 
> 
> Alison

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OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-07 Thread Rick Quatro 
Sorry to keep the "topic" going, but I can't resist:

Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is a
tree of life (Proverbs 13:12).

Rick

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Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:57 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: FM and InDesign

On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:29:48 -0800, Alison Craig
>  wrote:

>We can live in hope! ;-)))

I said in my soul, be still, and wait without hope For hope would be for the
wrong thing; wait without love For love would be love of the wrong thing;
there is yet faith But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the
waiting; Wait without thought, for you are not ready for thought: 
So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing.
  --T. S. Eliot, in The Four Quartets

;-)

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  http://mif2go.com/
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OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-07 Thread Tori Muir 
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OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-07 Thread Graeme R Forbes 
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:55:34 -0800
> From: Alison Craig 
> To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
> Subject: OT: FM and InDesign
> 
> I don't use InDesign at all, so can someone tell me if it's possible to open 
> FM9 files in InDesign?
> 
> I'm hoping as they're both Adobe products, there's some kind of support.
> 
> Alison


Jeremy's right, take Eliot's advice and wait without hope.

But in the meantime, you could try MIF Filter from DTP Tools 
(http://www.dtptools.com/). You pay per page: buy page credits in advance, save 
the FM doc as MIF, open the MIF using MIF Filter from within InDesign, and if 
the result is acceptable, save as an ID document. Your account isn't charged 
until you save, so you can inspect the conversion results and decide if you 
want to pay for them. I guess you can test MF by installing it and running a 
conversion without buying page credits, then buy the credits if you like the 
output. 

I've found MF to be pretty successful, but not entirely successful. Recently, I 
had to work on a document I wrote in 2000, but it was sufficiently complicated 
that I decided it would be simplest to work on an old Mac that ran FM7, rather 
than clean up the ID doc MF produced. In other cases, the ID doc was fine. So 
ymmv. I've found their online support to be excellent, normally.

Graeme Forbes
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OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-07 Thread Alison Craig 
Actually, if you can use it without saving/paying, that would work well for the 
initial issue I have. All we want from that document is to confirm font 
type/size, line spacing, etc.

Additional jobs will likely demand more than that.

Thanks for everyone's help - and "hopeful" suggestions ;-)))

Alison

From: Graeme R Forbes [mailto:graeme.for...@colorado.edu]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:40 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Alison Craig
Subject: Re: OT: FM and InDesign

Message: 4
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:55:34 -0800
From: Alison Craig mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com>>
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>" 
mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>>
Subject: OT: FM and InDesign

I don't use InDesign at all, so can someone tell me if it's possible to open 
FM9 files in InDesign?

I'm hoping as they're both Adobe products, there's some kind of support.

Alison


Jeremy's right, take Eliot's advice and wait without hope.

But in the meantime, you could try MIF Filter from DTP Tools 
(http://www.dtptools.com/). You pay per page: buy page credits in advance, save 
the FM doc as MIF, open the MIF using MIF Filter from within InDesign, and if 
the result is acceptable, save as an ID document. Your account isn't charged 
until you save, so you can inspect the conversion results and decide if you 
want to pay for them. I guess you can test MF by installing it and running a 
conversion without buying page credits, then buy the credits if you like the 
output.

I've found MF to be pretty successful, but not entirely successful. Recently, I 
had to work on a document I wrote in 2000, but it was sufficiently complicated 
that I decided it would be simplest to work on an old Mac that ran FM7, rather 
than clean up the ID doc MF produced. In other cases, the ID doc was fine. So 
ymmv. I've found their online support to be excellent, normally.

Graeme Forbes
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OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-06 Thread Alison Craig 
I don't use InDesign at all, so can someone tell me if it's possible to open 
FM9 files in InDesign?

I'm hoping as they're both Adobe products, there's some kind of support.

Alison
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Re: OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-06 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith 
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:55:34 -0800, Alison Craig
 alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:

I don't use InDesign at all, so can someone tell me 
if it's possible to open FM9 files in InDesign?

No.  But at least one publisher gets there via
Mif2Go's Word RTF output, with reasonable fidelity.

Don't even consider round-tripping.

I'm hoping as they're both Adobe products, 
there's some kind of support.

From Adobe?  ROFL!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  jer...@omsys.comhttp://mif2go.com/
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RE: OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-06 Thread Alison Craig 
We can live in hope! ;-)))

Alison


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Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:27 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: FM and InDesign

On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:55:34 -0800, Alison Craig
 alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:

I don't use InDesign at all, so can someone tell me if it's possible to 
open FM9 files in InDesign?

No.  But at least one publisher gets there via Mif2Go's Word RTF output, with 
reasonable fidelity.

Don't even consider round-tripping.

I'm hoping as they're both Adobe products, there's some kind of 
support.

From Adobe?  ROFL!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  jer...@omsys.comhttp://mif2go.com/
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Re: OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-06 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith 
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:29:48 -0800, Alison Craig
 alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:

We can live in hope! ;-)))

I said in my soul, be still, and wait without hope
For hope would be for the wrong thing; wait without love
For love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith
But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting;
Wait without thought, for you are not ready for thought: 
So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing.
  --T. S. Eliot, in The Four Quartets

;-)

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  jer...@omsys.comhttp://mif2go.com/
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OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-06 Thread Alison Craig 
I don't use InDesign at all, so can someone tell me if it's possible to open 
FM9 files in InDesign?

I'm hoping as they're both Adobe products, there's some kind of support.

Alison
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2013-03-06 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith 
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:55:34 -0800, Alison Craig
>  wrote:

>I don't use InDesign at all, so can someone tell me 
>if it's possible to open FM9 files in InDesign?

No.  But at least one publisher gets there via
Mif2Go's Word RTF output, with reasonable fidelity.

Don't even consider round-tripping.

>I'm hoping as they're both Adobe products, 
>there's some kind of support.

>From Adobe?  ROFL!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  http://mif2go.com/

OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-06 Thread Alison Craig 
We can live in hope! ;-)))

Alison


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy H. Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:27 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: FM and InDesign

On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:55:34 -0800, Alison Craig
>  wrote:

>I don't use InDesign at all, so can someone tell me if it's possible to 
>open FM9 files in InDesign?

No.  But at least one publisher gets there via Mif2Go's Word RTF output, with 
reasonable fidelity.

Don't even consider round-tripping.

>I'm hoping as they're both Adobe products, there's some kind of 
>support.

>From Adobe?  ROFL!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  http://mif2go.com/
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OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-06 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith 
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:29:48 -0800, Alison Craig
>  wrote:

>We can live in hope! ;-)))

I said in my soul, be still, and wait without hope
For hope would be for the wrong thing; wait without love
For love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith
But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting;
Wait without thought, for you are not ready for thought: 
So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing.
  --T. S. Eliot, in The Four Quartets

;-)

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  http://mif2go.com/

OT: FM and InDesign

2013-03-06 Thread Robert Lauriston 
http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=mfid

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Alison Craig
 wrote:
> I don?t use InDesign at all, so can someone tell me if it?s possible to open
> FM9 files in InDesign?