Proper positioning of dita topics on output

[Steve Nelson]

Hi,
I'm using Frame 10 to create dita files, and have noticed that there is a
delta between the positioning of topics in the topic file, versus on the
composite fm after having converted the ditamap.

Having worked in structured Framemaker previously, I'm familiar with a
creating a topic title style that would set the topic title to the top of
the next page (i.e., title.0_top) if necessary. However, it seems this
would not be of use in dita, where the topic positioning can always float
around, depending on the content preceding it.

Is there some way to tell Frame that, when there is a topic title
approaching the bottom of a page, and perhaps only one or two lines of
following content makes it to the page before the remainder of the topic
flows to the next page, to instead force that topic to start at the top of
the following page?

Stephen Nelson 
Technical Writer 
Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell 
39 Main St. 
Scottsville, NY 14546 
snel...@ambrell.com 
585.889.0288 (office)



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Re: Proper positioning of dita topics on output

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Steve...

You can often get things to work well through careful use of keep w/ 
next/previous and widow/orphan control on the styles in the template. If 
there is a topic title that you always want to be at the top of a page 
you can use the @outputclass attribute and assign a value of top (or 
other likely string), then modify the EDD to test for that value and set 
the property accordingly.


However, if all that fails, you'll need to create a script to run on the 
book after it's been created. With FM10, you can use ExtendScript (as 
well as FrameScript and the FDK).


If you're using DITA-FMx, you can set it up to automatically run this 
script each time you do a book build.


Cheers,

...scott



Steve Nelson wrote:


Hi,
I'm using Frame 10 to create dita files, and have noticed that there 
is a delta between the positioning of topics in the topic file, versus 
on the composite fm after having converted the ditamap.


Having worked in structured Framemaker previously, I'm familiar with a 
creating a topic title style that would set the topic title to the top 
of the next page (i.e., title.0_top) if necessary. However, it seems 
this would not be of use in dita, where the topic positioning can 
always float around, depending on the content preceding it.


Is there some way to tell Frame that, when there is a topic title 
approaching the bottom of a page, and perhaps only one or two lines of 
following content makes it to the page before the remainder of the 
topic flows to the next page, to instead force that topic to start at 
the top of the following page?


Stephen Nelson
Technical Writer
Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell
39 Main St.
Scottsville, NY 14546
snel...@ambrell.com
585.889.0288 (office)


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Proper positioning of dita topics on output

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Steve...

You can often get things to work well through careful use of keep w/ 
next/previous and widow/orphan control on the styles in the template. If 
there is a topic title that you always want to be at the top of a page 
you can use the @outputclass attribute and assign a value of "top" (or 
other likely string), then modify the EDD to test for that value and set 
the property accordingly.

However, if all that fails, you'll need to create a script to run on the 
book after it's been created. With FM10, you can use ExtendScript (as 
well as FrameScript and the FDK).

If you're using DITA-FMx, you can set it up to automatically run this 
script each time you do a book build.

Cheers,

...scott



Steve Nelson wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm using Frame 10 to create dita files, and have noticed that there 
> is a delta between the positioning of topics in the topic file, versus 
> on the composite fm after having converted the ditamap.
>
> Having worked in structured Framemaker previously, I'm familiar with a 
> creating a topic title style that would set the topic title to the top 
> of the next page (i.e., "title.0_top") if necessary. However, it seems 
> this would not be of use in dita, where the topic positioning can 
> always float around, depending on the content preceding it.
>
> Is there some way to tell Frame that, when there is a topic title 
> approaching the bottom of a page, and perhaps only one or two lines of 
> following content makes it to the page before the remainder of the 
> topic flows to the next page, to instead force that topic to start at 
> the top of the following page?
>
> Stephen Nelson
> Technical Writer
> Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell
> 39 Main St.
> Scottsville, NY 14546
> snelson at ambrell.com
> 585.889.0288 (office)
>
>
> -
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3974 - Release Date: 10/25/11
>
> 
>
>   

Proper positioning of dita topics on output

[Steve Nelson]

Hi,
I'm using Frame 10 to create dita files, and have noticed that there is a
delta between the positioning of topics in the topic file, versus on the
composite fm after having converted the ditamap.

Having worked in structured Framemaker previously, I'm familiar with a
creating a topic title style that would set the topic title to the top of
the next page (i.e., "title.0_top") if necessary. However, it seems this
would not be of use in dita, where the topic positioning can always float
around, depending on the content preceding it.

Is there some way to tell Frame that, when there is a topic title
approaching the bottom of a page, and perhaps only one or two lines of
following content makes it to the page before the remainder of the topic
flows to the next page, to instead force that topic to start at the top of
the following page?

Stephen Nelson 
Technical Writer 
Ameritherm, Inc./Ambrell 
39 Main St. 
Scottsville, NY 14546 
snelson at ambrell.com 
585.889.0288 (office)



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