Re: Can not import PDF properties to book files
On 19 Jun 2011 at 16:22, Shlomo Perets wrote: > To import the complete PDF Setup, including bookmarks, both Paragraph > Formats and Document Properties have to be selected. On 19 Jun 2011 at 14:39, Fred Ridder wrote: > I think what you are seeing is that the PDF Setup properties update > only in an additive way when you import them from another file (or > when you set them on the book level and expect them to ripple down to > the individual component files). Shlomo and Fred, Thank You very much for these insights. I did not imagine neither effect, although the additive method is common to all imports in FM (otherwise the 'Clean Import' plug-in would not be necessary... And Shlomos remark seems pursuable for me: in the bookmarks the ¶-formats have a role... Even after so many years of using FM i still have holes in the knowledge about it! Thank You Klaus ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Can not import PDF properties to book files
I think what you are seeing is that the PDF Setup properties update only in an additive way when you import them from another file (or when you set them on the book level and expect them to reiple down to the individual component files). If any file has extraneous tags selected in the PDF Bookmark properties, those tags will remain in that property set until/unless you manually delete them and save the file. When you generate a PDF, FrameMaker will pass bookmark data to Acrobat for all the tag names that are set in the book file's PDF Setup, *plus* data for any additional tags in a specific chapter if that chapter's file-level PDF Setup. If you import the relevant formatting properties from another file, FrameMaker will add to the bookmark list any tagds that are selected in the "template" file but not in the target, but *will not delete* andy tags that are selected in the target but not the "template". This behavior has been this way for a while--at least since FrameMaker 6 and Acrobat 6, which was the first time I came up against it--and was apparently done as a feature (although it is completely undocumented). At my previous employer I actually used this feature to improve the usability of the bookmarks in a handful of our documents that had atypical organizations. The book-level PDF Setup include the bookmarks to be picked up from *every* chaptre, but a couple of chapters had additional, specialized tags identified in their book-level PDF Setup. Once I had this set up, it remained through all book update and import formats operations because the special tags don't get deleted. The annoying thing is that under some set of circumstances I've never identified (because it is pretty rare), FrameMaker spontaneously adds a bunch of errant tags to the PDF Setup bookmarks list for some specific file. Unless you consistently inspect the bookmarks after generating your PDFs, you'll never catch this, and unless you know the cause you'll spend many hours trying to get the bookmarks to behave (or deleting the errant ones from the PDF each itme you publish). -Fred Ridder > From: fr...@daube.ch > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:21:36 +0200 > Subject: Can not import PDF properties to book files > > Friends of FrameMaker > > I have a strange problem with a book containing 3 files. This happens on > both FM-9 and FM-8 (not yet tested with FM-10). > > File 1 has incorrect PDF settings (wierd book marks) > File 2 has correct PDF settings > File 3 has incorrect PDF settings > > All files including the book file have gone through a MIF wash. All files > are on local disk. > > 1) When generating a PDF (via print or via Save as PDF) the settings have > to be entered into the set-up dialog at every generation. > To avoid this i want to set the properties in files 1 and 3 accordingly. > > 2) Book file and file 2 is open. In the book file I select all files and > import the Document Properties from file 2. > => settings in file 1 and 3 are still wrong. > > 3) All files and the book file are open. In file 1 i import Document > Properties from file 2. > => settings in file 1 are still wrong. > > I have put the files on my server: http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf- > problem9.zip (FM-9), http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem8.zip (FM-8) and > http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem0.zip (FM-9, new files). > > I do not understand this... > > Klaus > ~~ > Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich > Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper > F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Can not import PDF properties to book files
I don't understand your problem statement or why you're trying to do it this way. I took your Frame 8 files and did this: Open the book File > Open All Files in Book In the book file, Control+P Make sure the Adobe PDF printer driver is selected Select the Generate Acrobat Data check box Click PDF Setup Click the Bookmarks tab Set the bookmarks the way I wanted them File > Save All Files in Book Closed everything, reopened, the bookmarks are the same. I have no idea what you're trying to do but if you try that it might work. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Klaus Daube wrote: > Friends of FrameMaker > > I have a strange problem with a book containing 3 files. This happens on > both FM-9 and FM-8 (not yet tested with FM-10). > > File 1 has incorrect PDF settings (wierd book marks) > File 2 has correct PDF settings > File 3 has incorrect PDF settings > > All files including the book file have gone through a MIF wash. All files > are on local disk. > > 1) When generating a PDF (via print or via Save as PDF) the settings have > to be entered into the set-up dialog at every generation. > To avoid this i want to set the properties in files 1 and 3 accordingly. > > 2) Book file and file 2 is open. In the book file I select all files and > import the Document Properties from file 2. > => settings in file 1 and 3 are still wrong. > > 3) All files and the book file are open. In file 1 i import Document > Properties from file 2. > => settings in file 1 are still wrong. > > I have put the files on my server: http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf- > problem9.zip (FM-9), http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem8.zip (FM-8) and > http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem0.zip (FM-9, new files). > > I do not understand this... > > Klaus > ~~ > Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich > Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper > F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as dr_go...@pobox.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dr_gonzo%40pobox.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Steve Johnson, dr_go...@pobox.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Can not import PDF properties to book files
Hi Klaus, You wrote: I have a strange problem with a book containing 3 files. This happens on both FM-9 and FM-8 (not yet tested with FM-10). File 1 has incorrect PDF settings (wierd book marks) File 2 has correct PDF settings File 3 has incorrect PDF settings All files including the book file have gone through a MIF wash. All files are on local disk. 1) When generating a PDF (via print or via Save as PDF) the settings have to be entered into the set-up dialog at every generation. To avoid this i want to set the properties in files 1 and 3 accordingly. 2) Book file and file 2 is open. In the book file I select all files and import the Document Properties from file 2. => settings in file 1 and 3 are still wrong. 3) All files and the book file are open. In file 1 i import Document Properties from file 2. => settings in file 1 are still wrong. I have put the files on my server: http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf- problem9.zip (FM-9), http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem8.zip (FM-8) and http://daube.ch/z_temp/pdf-problem0.zip (FM-9, new files). I do not understand this... I did not check your files, but you indicate Document Properties as the category being imported, yet also mention weird bookmarks. To import the complete PDF Setup, including bookmarks, both Paragraph Formats and Document Properties have to be selected. Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.