Re: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

2012-01-11 Thread Scott Turner
Using Acrobat 8 and greater, you may enable a PDF For commenting. The person 
doing the commenting should have Acrobat Reader 8 or greater. 

On Jan 6, 2012, at 8:01 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:

 Hi Fei Min,
  
 As far as I can tell there is no way to automate this unless you have one of 
 Adobe's expensive Live Cycle server products.
  
 Rick
  
 Rick Quatro
 Carmen Publishing Inc.
 585-659-8267
 r...@frameexpert.com
 http://www.frameexpert.com
  
  
  
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 7:55 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings
  
 FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows XP, Adobe Acrobat 6 Professional, and TimeSavers 
 5.0.
  
 We normally password-protect our PDFs produced from FrameMaker to guard 
 against accidental or deliberate changes, but we had a customer request the 
 ability to annotate the PDF file. Under Adobe PDF Security, I found the 
 option for Changes Allowed: “Commenting, filling in form fields, and 
 signing”. I thought everything was all right because I could then comment on 
 the resultant PDFs, but I was using Acrobat.
  
 I then found out that people who are using Reader cannot comment on the files 
 unless I enable commenting in Acrobat. Is there a way to enable commenting 
 using any of the above tools that I told you that I have, before the PDF is 
 generated? We have an automated output system, so I must be able to configure 
 the settings in one of them without opening the PDF file after it’s been 
 generated.
  
 If the answer is no, then will I have any better luck with FrameMaker 10 and 
 Adobe Acrobat X on Windows 7? We’re supposed to upgrade this year.
  
 Fei Min
  
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RE: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

2012-01-11 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Scott,

 

Yes, but the question was how to automate this enabling so you don't have to do 
it one PDF at a time. This you can't do without an expensive server product.

 

Rick

 

From: Scott Turner [mailto:qui...@airmail.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:44 PM
To: Rick Quatro
Cc: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

 

Using Acrobat 8 and greater, you may enable a PDF For commenting. The person 
doing the commenting should have Acrobat Reader 8 or greater. 

On Jan 6, 2012, at 8:01 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:

Hi Fei Min,

 

As far as I can tell there is no way to automate this unless you have one of 
Adobe's expensive Live Cycle server products.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-659-8267

r...@frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com

 

 

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 7:55 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

 

FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows XP, Adobe Acrobat 6 Professional, and TimeSavers 5.0.

 

We normally password-protect our PDFs produced from FrameMaker to guard against 
accidental or deliberate changes, but we had a customer request the ability to 
annotate the PDF file. Under Adobe PDF Security, I found the option for Changes 
Allowed: “Commenting, filling in form fields, and signing”. I thought 
everything was all right because I could then comment on the resultant PDFs, 
but I was using Acrobat.

 

I then found out that people who are using Reader cannot comment on the files 
unless I enable commenting in Acrobat. Is there a way to enable commenting 
using any of the above tools that I told you that I have, before the PDF is 
generated? We have an automated output system, so I must be able to configure 
the settings in one of them without opening the PDF file after it’s been 
generated.

 

If the answer is no, then will I have any better luck with FrameMaker 10 and 
Adobe Acrobat X on Windows 7? We’re supposed to upgrade this year.

 

Fei Min

 

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Re: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

2012-01-11 Thread Baruch Brodersen
It seems to me that it ought to be possible to accomplish this with either
parfmark or postscript code within a postscript textbox.

Baruch Brodersen


On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:

  Hi Scott,

 ** **

 Yes, but the question was how to automate this enabling so you don't have
 to do it one PDF at a time. This you can't do without an expensive server
 product.

 ** **

 Rick

 ** **

 *From:* Scott Turner [mailto:qui...@airmail.net]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:44 PM
 *To:* Rick Quatro
 *Cc:* Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Subject:* Re: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

 ** **

 Using Acrobat 8 and greater, you may enable a PDF For commenting. The
 person doing the commenting should have Acrobat Reader 8 or greater.

 On Jan 6, 2012, at 8:01 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:

  Hi Fei Min,

  

 As far as I can tell there is no way to automate this unless you have one
 of Adobe's expensive Live Cycle server products.

  

 Rick

  

 Rick Quatro

 Carmen Publishing Inc.

 585-659-8267

 r...@frameexpert.com

 http://www.frameexpert.com

  

  

  

 *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Fei Min Lorente
 *Sent:* Friday, January 06, 2012 7:55 PM
 *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Subject:* Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

  

 FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows XP, Adobe Acrobat 6 Professional, and TimeSavers
 5.0.

  

 We normally password-protect our PDFs produced from FrameMaker to guard
 against accidental or deliberate changes, but we had a customer request the
 ability to annotate the PDF file. Under Adobe PDF Security, I found the
 option for Changes Allowed: “Commenting, filling in form fields, and
 signing”. I thought everything was all right because I could then comment
 on the resultant PDFs, but I was using Acrobat.

  

 I then found out that people who are using Reader cannot comment on the
 files unless I enable commenting in Acrobat. Is there a way to enable
 commenting using any of the above tools that I told you that I have, before
 the PDF is generated? We have an automated output system, so I must be able
 to configure the settings in one of them without opening the PDF file after
 it’s been generated.

  

 If the answer is no, then will I have any better luck with FrameMaker 10
 and Adobe Acrobat X on Windows 7? We’re supposed to upgrade this year.

  

 Fei Min

  

 ---
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 Senior Technical Communicator
 Medical Division
 ON Semiconductor
 feimin.lore...@onsemi.com
 +1 519 884 9696 ext 2297 | office
 +1 519 831 4931 | mobile
 +1 519 884 0228 | fax
 http://www.onsemi.com
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RE: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

2012-01-11 Thread Dov Isaacs
No, but sorry, this cannot be accomplished via PDFMark or any other PostScript 
code!

- Dov

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Baruch Brodersen
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:04 PM
To: Rick Quatro
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Fei Min Lorente
Subject: Re: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

It seems to me that it ought to be possible to accomplish this with either 
parfmark or postscript code within a postscript textbox.

Baruch Brodersen

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Rick Quatro 
r...@rickquatro.commailto:r...@rickquatro.com wrote:
Hi Scott,

Yes, but the question was how to automate this enabling so you don't have to do 
it one PDF at a time. This you can't do without an expensive server product.

Rick

From: Scott Turner [mailto:qui...@airmail.netmailto:qui...@airmail.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:44 PM
To: Rick Quatro
Cc: Fei Min Lorente; 
framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

Using Acrobat 8 and greater, you may enable a PDF For commenting. The person 
doing the commenting should have Acrobat Reader 8 or greater.

On Jan 6, 2012, at 8:01 PM, Rick Quatro 
r...@rickquatro.commailto:r...@rickquatro.com wrote:
Hi Fei Min,

As far as I can tell there is no way to automate this unless you have one of 
Adobe's expensive Live Cycle server products.

Rick
From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
 On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 7:55 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows XP, Adobe Acrobat 6 Professional, and TimeSavers 5.0.

We normally password-protect our PDFs produced from FrameMaker to guard against 
accidental or deliberate changes, but we had a customer request the ability to 
annotate the PDF file. Under Adobe PDF Security, I found the option for Changes 
Allowed: Commenting, filling in form fields, and signing. I thought 
everything was all right because I could then comment on the resultant PDFs, 
but I was using Acrobat.

I then found out that people who are using Reader cannot comment on the files 
unless I enable commenting in Acrobat. Is there a way to enable commenting 
using any of the above tools that I told you that I have, before the PDF is 
generated? We have an automated output system, so I must be able to configure 
the settings in one of them without opening the PDF file after it's been 
generated.

If the answer is no, then will I have any better luck with FrameMaker 10 and 
Adobe Acrobat X on Windows 7? We're supposed to upgrade this year.

Fei Min
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Re: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

2012-01-11 Thread Baruch Brodersen
Bummer that.

Baruch


On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Dov Isaacs isa...@adobe.com wrote:

 No, but sorry, this cannot be accomplished via PDFMark or any other
 PostScript code!

 ** **

 - Dov

 ** **

 *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Baruch Brodersen
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:04 PM
 *To:* Rick Quatro
 *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com; Fei Min Lorente

 *Subject:* Re: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

 ** **

 It seems to me that it ought to be possible to accomplish this with either
 parfmark or postscript code within a postscript textbox.

 Baruch Brodersen

 ** **

 On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:*
 ***

 Hi Scott,

  

 Yes, but the question was how to automate this enabling so you don't have
 to do it one PDF at a time. This you can't do without an expensive server
 product.

  

 Rick

  

 *From:* Scott Turner [mailto:qui...@airmail.net]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:44 PM
 *To:* Rick Quatro
 *Cc:* Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Subject:* Re: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

  

 Using Acrobat 8 and greater, you may enable a PDF For commenting. The
 person doing the commenting should have Acrobat Reader 8 or greater.

 On Jan 6, 2012, at 8:01 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:

 Hi Fei Min,

  

 As far as I can tell there is no way to automate this unless you have one
 of Adobe's expensive Live Cycle server products.

  

 Rick

 *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Fei Min Lorente

 *Sent:* Friday, January 06, 2012 7:55 PM
 *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Subject:* Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings
 

  

 FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows XP, Adobe Acrobat 6 Professional, and TimeSavers
 5.0.

  

 We normally password-protect our PDFs produced from FrameMaker to guard
 against accidental or deliberate changes, but we had a customer request the
 ability to annotate the PDF file. Under Adobe PDF Security, I found the
 option for Changes Allowed: “Commenting, filling in form fields, and
 signing”. I thought everything was all right because I could then comment
 on the resultant PDFs, but I was using Acrobat.

  

 I then found out that people who are using Reader cannot comment on the
 files unless I enable commenting in Acrobat. Is there a way to enable
 commenting using any of the above tools that I told you that I have, before
 the PDF is generated? We have an automated output system, so I must be able
 to configure the settings in one of them without opening the PDF file after
 it’s been generated.

  

 If the answer is no, then will I have any better luck with FrameMaker 10
 and Adobe Acrobat X on Windows 7? We’re supposed to upgrade this year.

  

 Fei Min


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RE: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

2012-01-09 Thread Fei Min Lorente
Thanks Shlomo and Rick for the replies. We'll probably recommend that
our customer use Reader X; we don't want to spend a lot of money just
for one customer.

I forgot to mention that we tested the files using Reader 9, our company
standard, so that's why I didn't know about commenting in version X.

Fei Min

-Original Message-
From: Shlomo Perets [mailto:shlo...@microtype.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 1:21 AM
To: Fei Min Lorente
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; frame2acro...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings


Fei Min,

You wrote:

... I then found out that people who are using Reader cannot comment on

the files unless I enable commenting in Acrobat.

With the free *Adobe Reader X*, end users can use two commenting tools 
(sticky notes and highlight text), independently of how the PDF was 
created, as long as the PDF does not have security settings that prevent

commenting -- see
http://acrobat.solutions.adobe.com/content/areaderx_ipm1_en

  Is there a way to enable commenting using any of the above tools that
I 
 told you that I have, before the PDF is generated? We have an
automated 
 output system, so I must be able to configure the settings in one of
them 
 without opening the PDF file after it s been generated. ...

Enabling PDFs for full commenting in an automated is possible with Adobe

LiveCycle Reader Extensions (costly; you will not be able to find a
price 
in Adobe's web site)


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/TCS training  consulting * FM-to-Acrobat
TimeSavers/Assistants


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RE: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

2012-01-07 Thread David Creamer
For a standard PDF, only two commenting tools are available in Reader, but
for a PDF saved with commenting enabled from Acrobat PRO, Reader will have
20+ tools available.
However, I don't think it can be automated in Acrobat Pro unless using an
outside macro program to watch a folder.

LiveCycle Reader Extensions is your only other option for automation.


David Creamer
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http://www.ideastraining.com
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Authorized QuarkXPress Instructor and Certified Expert since 1988



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RE: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

2012-01-06 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Fei Min,

 

As far as I can tell there is no way to automate this unless you have one of
Adobe's expensive Live Cycle server products.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-659-8267

r...@frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com

 

 

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 7:55 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

 

FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows XP, Adobe Acrobat 6 Professional, and TimeSavers
5.0.

 

We normally password-protect our PDFs produced from FrameMaker to guard
against accidental or deliberate changes, but we had a customer request the
ability to annotate the PDF file. Under Adobe PDF Security, I found the
option for Changes Allowed: Commenting, filling in form fields, and
signing. I thought everything was all right because I could then comment on
the resultant PDFs, but I was using Acrobat.

 

I then found out that people who are using Reader cannot comment on the
files unless I enable commenting in Acrobat. Is there a way to enable
commenting using any of the above tools that I told you that I have, before
the PDF is generated? We have an automated output system, so I must be able
to configure the settings in one of them without opening the PDF file after
it's been generated.

 

If the answer is no, then will I have any better luck with FrameMaker 10 and
Adobe Acrobat X on Windows 7? We're supposed to upgrade this year.

 

Fei Min

 

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Senior Technical Communicator
Medical Division
ON Semiconductor
feimin.lore...@onsemi.com
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Re: Enabling a PDF for comments from FrameMaker Settings

2012-01-06 Thread Shlomo Perets


Fei Min,

You wrote:

... I then found out that people who are using Reader cannot comment on 
the files unless I enable commenting in Acrobat.


With the free *Adobe Reader X*, end users can use two commenting tools 
(sticky notes and highlight text), independently of how the PDF was 
created, as long as the PDF does not have security settings that prevent 
commenting -- see http://acrobat.solutions.adobe.com/content/areaderx_ipm1_en


 Is there a way to enable commenting using any of the above tools that I 
told you that I have, before the PDF is generated? We have an automated 
output system, so I must be able to configure the settings in one of them 
without opening the PDF file after it s been generated. ...


Enabling PDFs for full commenting in an automated is possible with Adobe 
LiveCycle Reader Extensions (costly; you will not be able to find a price 
in Adobe's web site)



Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/TCS training  consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants


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