RE: Finding overrides in Framemaker files
At 12:48 -0800 22/1/13, Combs, Richard wrote: In addition to Stuart's suggestion, I can recommend Silicon Prarie's very reasonable Paragraph Tools and Character Tools plugins for this and many other tasks (siliconprairiesoftware.com). I know it's bad form to post 'me too' messages, but I'm going to anyway. In my view these plugins are *essential*, and only cost as much as a couple of drinks in a bar. They will save you hours of work. And all the rest. I've got a template here that has a zillion xref formats, named using three different languages (don't ask: it wasn't me). One click in the cross-reference tools menu and every unused one is gone. If only houses behaved the same way: click a button and all the rubbish vanishes. I'd pay a lot for that. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Finding overrides in Framemaker files
TVB, Have you tried using one of eP's other outputs (e.g., WebWorks Help 5) and using the Styles report from that to chase your FM overrides? jjj On 24/01/2013 4:00 AM, framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com wrote: Framemaker 10, all patched, Win 7, 64 bit. I have a Framemaker book that contains 8 chapter files. I know that overrides to paragraph styles in a file are marked with an asterisk in the Information Bar at the bottom of the file. I am producing OLH for a client using a 15 year old technology (Sun JavaHelp) and I don't have an option to change that right now. In the tool that I use, ePublisher, reports are generated including a Styles report that specifically lists all paragraph tags that have an override to them. This report, however, is not available for a Sun JavaHelp output for many reasons but I still need to be able to find overrides in the Framemaker source files. Is there a script that is available to do this, or is there a way to use FM's functionality that I am not aware of to do this? Thanks, TVB -- /I may be old; I may be silly; but I'm not effing stupid!/ *John Pitt, technical writer/consultant* 8 Hendrix St Windaroo QLD 4207 Ph: 07 3804 0416 VoIP: 07 3495 5185 Mob: 0438 92 8096 www.pitt.net.au ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Finding overrides in Framemaker files
On 22/01/2013 3:13 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: Framemaker 10, all patched, Win 7, 64 bit. I have a Framemaker book that contains 8 chapter files. I know that overrides to paragraph stylesin a fileare marked with an asteriskin the Information Bar at the bottom of the file. I am producing OLH for a client using a 15 year old technology (Sun JavaHelp) and I don't have an option to change that right now. In the tool that I use, ePublisher, reports are generated including a Styles report that specifically lists all paragraph tags that have an override to them. This report, however, is not available for a Sun JavaHelp output for many reasonsbut I stillneed tobe able to find overrides in the Framemaker source files. Is there a script that is available to do this, or is there a way to use FM's functionality that I am not aware of to do this? Thanks, Free from Chris Despopoulos: http://www.cudspan.net/plugins/ http://www.cudspan.net/plugins/tools/10/HuntOverrides.zip HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Finding overrides in Framemaker files
Tammy Van Boening wrote: Framemaker 10, all patched, Win 7, 64 bit. I have a Framemaker book that contains 8 chapter files. I know that overrides to paragraph styles in a file are marked with an asterisk in the Information Bar at the bottom of the file. I am producing OLH for a client using a 15 year old technology (Sun JavaHelp) and I don't have an option to change that right now. In the tool that I use, ePublisher, reports are generated including a Styles report that specifically lists all paragraph tags that have an override to them. This report, however, is not available for a Sun JavaHelp output for many reasons but I still need to be able to find overrides in the Framemaker source files. Is there a script that is available to do this, or is there a way to use FM's functionality that I am not aware of to do this? In addition to Stuart's suggestion, I can recommend Silicon Prarie's very reasonable Paragraph Tools and Character Tools plugins for this and many other tasks (siliconprairiesoftware.com). But if you're in a hurry and not afraid of removing all overrides in a file without regard for the consequences, do the following: 1) Ensure that you have a file whose pgf catalog (and anything else you want to unify) has the definitions you want all the chapters to use. 2) In the book window, select all the chapters and select File Import Formats. 3) In the dialog box, set Import from Document to the file with the correct definitions and under Import and Update, select what you want to update. 4) Under While Updating, Remove, select Other Format/Layout Overrides and click Import. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Finding overrides in Framemaker files
Thanks Richard. -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 1:49 PM To: Tammy Van Boening; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Finding overrides in Framemaker files Tammy Van Boening wrote: Framemaker 10, all patched, Win 7, 64 bit. I have a Framemaker book that contains 8 chapter files. I know that overrides to paragraph styles in a file are marked with an asterisk in the Information Bar at the bottom of the file. I am producing OLH for a client using a 15 year old technology (Sun JavaHelp) and I don't have an option to change that right now. In the tool that I use, ePublisher, reports are generated including a Styles report that specifically lists all paragraph tags that have an override to them. This report, however, is not available for a Sun JavaHelp output for many reasons but I still need to be able to find overrides in the Framemaker source files. Is there a script that is available to do this, or is there a way to use FM's functionality that I am not aware of to do this? In addition to Stuart's suggestion, I can recommend Silicon Prarie's very reasonable Paragraph Tools and Character Tools plugins for this and many other tasks (siliconprairiesoftware.com). But if you're in a hurry and not afraid of removing all overrides in a file without regard for the consequences, do the following: 1) Ensure that you have a file whose pgf catalog (and anything else you want to unify) has the definitions you want all the chapters to use. 2) In the book window, select all the chapters and select File Import Formats. 3) In the dialog box, set Import from Document to the file with the correct definitions and under Import and Update, select what you want to update. 4) Under While Updating, Remove, select Other Format/Layout Overrides and click Import. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Finding overrides in Framemaker files
FM also provides the ability to search for character/paragraph/table format overrides in the Find/Change dialog box (that is, CTRL + F). Those options are at the bottom of the Find list. Richard, do those tools provide something extra to the FM functionality? Nadine From: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com To: Tammy Van Boening tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:48:47 PM Subject: RE: Finding overrides in Framemaker files Tammy Van Boening wrote: Framemaker 10, all patched, Win 7, 64 bit. I have a Framemaker book that contains 8 chapter files. I know that overrides to paragraph styles in a file are marked with an asterisk in the Information Bar at the bottom of the file. I am producing OLH for a client using a 15 year old technology (Sun JavaHelp) and I don't have an option to change that right now. In the tool that I use, ePublisher, reports are generated including a Styles report that specifically lists all paragraph tags that have an override to them. This report, however, is not available for a Sun JavaHelp output for many reasons but I still need to be able to find overrides in the Framemaker source files. Is there a script that is available to do this, or is there a way to use FM's functionality that I am not aware of to do this? In addition to Stuart's suggestion, I can recommend Silicon Prarie's very reasonable Paragraph Tools and Character Tools plugins for this and many other tasks (siliconprairiesoftware.com). But if you're in a hurry and not afraid of removing all overrides in a file without regard for the consequences, do the following: 1) Ensure that you have a file whose pgf catalog (and anything else you want to unify) has the definitions you want all the chapters to use. 2) In the book window, select all the chapters and select File Import Formats. 3) In the dialog box, set Import from Document to the file with the correct definitions and under Import and Update, select what you want to update. 4) Under While Updating, Remove, select Other Format/Layout Overrides and click Import. HTH! Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Finding overrides in Framemaker files
Craig, Yep, like you, I have mixed luck w/ the remove override option being automatically selected. I can't figure out why it works sometimes and not others. At this point, just finding them is the start that I need and I can go from there. Thanks everyone who responded. I appreciate the professional courtesy and consideration. TVB From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 2:09 PM To: tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com; framers Subject: RE: Finding overrides in Framemaker files Tammy, In FM 10 (and 11) you can use the find/change function by selecting Find Paragraph Format Override from the drop-down list. There are also drop down selections for Character Format Override and Table Format Override as well. I've had mixed luck with the remove override option that is automatically selected in the replace selection for all these, but it does find all the overrides so you can fix them. If your goal is only to catalog them, this is of little help if there are many overrides. Maybe someone has already suggested this. Craig Tammy Van Boening wrote: Framemaker 10, all patched, Win 7, 64 bit. I have a Framemaker book that contains 8 chapter files. I know that overrides to paragraph styles in a file are marked with an asterisk in the Information Bar at the bottom of the file. I am producing OLH for a client using a 15 year old technology (Sun JavaHelp) and I don't have an option to change that right now. In the tool that I use, ePublisher, reports are generated including a Styles report that specifically lists all paragraph tags that have an override to them. This report, however, is not available for a Sun JavaHelp output for many reasons but I still need to be able to find overrides in the Framemaker source files. Is there a script that is available to do this, or is there a way to use FM's functionality that I am not aware of to do this? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Finding overrides in Framemaker files
Writer wrote: FM also provides the ability to search for character/paragraph/table format overrides in the Find/Change dialog box (that is, CTRL + F). Those options are at the bottom of the Find list. Richard, do those tools provide something extra to the FM functionality? Although I have TCS 3 and have used FM 10 for a few tasks, my primary tool is still FM 7.2. I hadn't even noticed those new options in the Find list. That's nice, thanks for pointing it out. But the Silicon Prairie tools offer significantly more functionality and IMO are well worth the modest cost. Check out the brief descriptions here: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Finding overrides in Framemaker files
Writer wrote: FM also provides the ability to search for character/paragraph/table format overrides in the Find/Change dialog box (that is, CTRL + F). Those options are at the bottom of the Find list. Richard, do those tools provide something extra to the FM functionality? Although I have TCS 3 and have used FM 10 for a few tasks, my primary tool is still FM 7.2. I hadn't even noticed those new options in the Find list. That's nice, thanks for pointing it out. But the Silicon Prairie tools offer significantly more functionality and IMO are well worth the modest cost. Check out the brief descriptions here: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html Okey dokey. Thanks, Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Finding overrides in Framemaker files
Tammy, In FM 10 (and 11) you can use the find/change function by selecting Find Paragraph Format Override from the drop-down list. There are also drop down selections for Character Format Override and Table Format Override as well. I've had mixed luck with the remove override option that is automatically selected in the replace selection for all these, but it does find all the overrides so you can fix them. If your goal is only to catalog them, this is of little help if there are many overrides. Maybe someone has already suggested this. Craig Tammy Van Boening wrote: Framemaker 10, all patched, Win 7, 64 bit. I have a Framemaker book that contains 8 chapter files. I know that overrides to paragraph styles in a file are marked with an asterisk in the Information Bar at the bottom of the file. I am producing OLH for a client using a 15 year old technology (Sun JavaHelp) and I don't have an option to change that right now. In the tool that I use, ePublisher, reports are generated including a Styles report that specifically lists all paragraph tags that have an override to them. This report, however, is not available for a Sun JavaHelp output for many reasons but I still need to be able to find overrides in the Framemaker source files. Is there a script that is available to do this, or is there a way to use FM's functionality that I am not aware of to do this? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
