Re: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP
That would almost make it worth paying for FM11, except on principle I'm not going to pay to get back old features that were removed by upgrades. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote: FM 11 fixed the focus problem with the Find/Change dialog and returned the ability to call up various catalogs with hot keys, both essential features of power users who were driven mad by their removal in earlier versions. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP
No, FM10 was much better than FM9 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: December-09-12 7:55 AM To: Rick Quatro; 'Alison Craig'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP At 15:26 -0500 7/12/12, Rick Quatro wrote: I would avoid the downgrade to 9. FM 11 is much better than 9, which was a dog in my opinion. I see no mention of FM 10 in this discussion. Was that a dog too? -- Steve [who has just bought 10 but has nothing to run it on yet] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonassoftware.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP
11 would be the way to go. Much more stable than 9 (and, I think, 10), and it feels faster to me. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.comwrote: FM 9 Version: 9.0p255 Unstructured OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit ** ** ** ** The process to get a Volume license of Frame 11 and downgrade to Frame 9 looks like a pain, so I’m wondering if I should just recommend that we buy Frame 11 for the new part time writer and upgrade me from 9 to 11. ** ** What can anyone tell me about the stability of unstructured Frame 11 immediately after upgrading from Frame 9? Or the stability of unstructured Frame 11, period? ** ** I know that out of the box, this list had some stability complaints with Frame 11 but that Adobe has issued at least 1 patch and the complaints seem to have settled down on this list. ** ** What would anyone recommend as I need to decide on a preferred course of action in the next couple of days. ** ** Alison ** ** ** ** *Alison Craig * Technical Documentation Lead 604-279-8550 | fax 604-279-8559 | toll-free 1-866-437-9508 *Ultrasonix Medical Corporation | **www.ultrasonix.com*http://www.ultrasonix.com/ [image: Ultrasonix Medical Corp] ** ** ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. image001.gif___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP
Just jumping in on this - are files exchangeable between 10 and 11 without complicated save as requirements? Peter From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 3:46 PM To: Alison Craig; FrameUsers List Subject: Re: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP 11 would be the way to go. Much more stable than 9 (and, I think, 10), and it feels faster to me. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote: FM 9 Version: 9.0p255 Unstructured OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit The process to get a Volume license of Frame 11 and downgrade to Frame 9 looks like a pain, so I'm wondering if I should just recommend that we buy Frame 11 for the new part time writer and upgrade me from 9 to 11. What can anyone tell me about the stability of unstructured Frame 11 immediately after upgrading from Frame 9? Or the stability of unstructured Frame 11, period? I know that out of the box, this list had some stability complaints with Frame 11 but that Adobe has issued at least 1 patch and the complaints seem to have settled down on this list. What would anyone recommend as I need to decide on a preferred course of action in the next couple of days. Alison Alison Craig Technical Documentation Lead 604-279-8550 | fax 604-279-8559 | toll-free 1-866-437-9508 Ultrasonix Medical Corporation | http://www.ultrasonix.com/ www.ultrasonix.com Ultrasonix Medical Corp ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail. com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. image001.gif___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP
Nope, they get upgraded when opened in FM11; still have to do a save as to exchange them From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Hirons Sent: December-10-12 11:00 AM To: 'Art Campbell'; 'Alison Craig'; 'FrameUsers List' Subject: RE: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP Just jumping in on this - are files exchangeable between 10 and 11 without complicated save as requirements? Peter From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 3:46 PM To: Alison Craig; FrameUsers List Subject: Re: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP 11 would be the way to go. Much more stable than 9 (and, I think, 10), and it feels faster to me. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.commailto:art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 I support www.TheGrotonLine.comhttp://www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.commailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote: FM 9 Version: 9.0p255 Unstructured OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit The process to get a Volume license of Frame 11 and downgrade to Frame 9 looks like a pain, so I'm wondering if I should just recommend that we buy Frame 11 for the new part time writer and upgrade me from 9 to 11. What can anyone tell me about the stability of unstructured Frame 11 immediately after upgrading from Frame 9? Or the stability of unstructured Frame 11, period? I know that out of the box, this list had some stability complaints with Frame 11 but that Adobe has issued at least 1 patch and the complaints seem to have settled down on this list. What would anyone recommend as I need to decide on a preferred course of action in the next couple of days. Alison Alison Craig Technical Documentation Lead 604-279-8550tel:604-279-8550 | fax 604-279-8559tel:604-279-8559 | toll-free 1-866-437-9508tel:1-866-437-9508 Ultrasonix Medical Corporation | www.ultrasonix.comhttp://www.ultrasonix.com/ [cid:image001.gif@01CDD6C6.D19C1BF0] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.commailto:art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. inline: image001.gif___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP
I've had pretty good luck with FM 9, 10 and 11 and have used all three in production settings over that last 8 months. There are quirks in all of them although I would have to say the 11 is the best (now that that update has minimized the crashes). The new features and interface changes in each can be frustrating to acclimate to. However, FM 11 fixed the focus problem with the Find/Change dialog and returned the ability to call up various catalogs with hot keys, both essential features of power users who were driven mad by their removal in earlier versions. For those of us who use various versions to match the needs of clients, having to maintain installations of the various versions is a bit clumsy. My primary clients use FM5.5, 6, 7, 9, and 11 so I have various versions on different computers. (Note: Translation work necessitates, at times, return of the translated files in the clients preferred format, and with FDA controlled stuff, mifs throwing out of newer features stuff carries the potential for problems even if no new features were thought to have been used in the handling process.) I'm afraid to update my TCS3 to TCS4 for fear it will cause problems with my access to FM10. (I'm using FM 11 onsite at my current contract job, their licence on one of their computers). Of course I could just buy a whole new license for TCS 4 rather than upgrade, but that expense makes no sense to me at this point, and given that installing CS6 resulted inthe deactivation of my Acrobat license after 30 days, I don't trust Adobe's installers to leave other licenses untouched. Details of my Acrobat deactivation for those who care: Installed CS6 resulting in a non-installation of the Acrobat X component since I already had it installed for TCS3. (A window notified me that Acobat X had not been installed.) However, the deactivation of Acrobat exactly 30 days later convinces me that rather than seeing this as a non-installation, something in the CS6 installer flagged Acrobat as being in the try out mode and then deactivated it after 30 days.) Craig From: jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:40:51 -0500 Subject: RE: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP No, FM10 was much better than FM9 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP
At 15:26 -0500 7/12/12, Rick Quatro wrote: I would avoid the downgrade to 9. FM 11 is much better than 9, which was a dog in my opinion. I see no mention of FM 10 in this discussion. Was that a dog too? -- Steve [who has just bought 10 but has nothing to run it on yet] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP
I'd say go for it - FM11 seems to have solved a number of issues I was having with TCS integration. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig Sent: December-07-12 2:47 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP FM 9 Version: 9.0p255 Unstructured OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit The process to get a Volume license of Frame 11 and downgrade to Frame 9 looks like a pain, so I'm wondering if I should just recommend that we buy Frame 11 for the new part time writer and upgrade me from 9 to 11. What can anyone tell me about the stability of unstructured Frame 11 immediately after upgrading from Frame 9? Or the stability of unstructured Frame 11, period? I know that out of the box, this list had some stability complaints with Frame 11 but that Adobe has issued at least 1 patch and the complaints seem to have settled down on this list. What would anyone recommend as I need to decide on a preferred course of action in the next couple of days. Alison Alison Craig Technical Documentation Lead 604-279-8550 | fax 604-279-8559 | toll-free 1-866-437-9508 Ultrasonix Medical Corporation | www.ultrasonix.comhttp://www.ultrasonix.com/ [cid:image002.jpg@01CDD48B.DBFC2550] inline: image002.jpg___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP
Hi Alison, I would avoid the downgrade to 9. FM 11 is much better than 9, which was a dog in my opinion. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 2:47 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP FM 9 Version: 9.0p255 Unstructured OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit The process to get a Volume license of Frame 11 and downgrade to Frame 9 looks like a pain, so I'm wondering if I should just recommend that we buy Frame 11 for the new part time writer and upgrade me from 9 to 11. What can anyone tell me about the stability of unstructured Frame 11 immediately after upgrading from Frame 9? Or the stability of unstructured Frame 11, period? I know that out of the box, this list had some stability complaints with Frame 11 but that Adobe has issued at least 1 patch and the complaints seem to have settled down on this list. What would anyone recommend as I need to decide on a preferred course of action in the next couple of days. Alison Alison Craig Technical Documentation Lead 604-279-8550 | fax 604-279-8559 | toll-free 1-866-437-9508 Ultrasonix Medical Corporation | http://www.ultrasonix.com/ www.ultrasonix.com Ultrasonix Medical Corp image001.gif___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame 11 Stability - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to Frame 9? HELP
Yes, Frame 11 is quite stable, but make sure you install any available updates. I'm currently at 11.0.1.382. It does occasionally crash, but not very often. (There were a lot of crashes before the update.) Craig attachment: image001.gif___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
